/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Does anybody know which dress misako is wearing there?

>>10016548
The photographer and editor looks to be Chinese, I'm guessing that's why. It's likely the clothing is still made in China though, I'd check reviews.

>>10016734
She posted that it was a Chinese brand on her line blog.

Any updates on the ap museum releases?

>>10016734
Moonlight Story (weibo.com/ataleofmoonlight)

>>10016722
Is anyone working on translating this yet?

>>10016815
>Shitty non print skirts I could sew myself for a fraction of the price?
Okay now you just sound dumb. You know very well you could not.

Also what is Letter Doll, Happiness Easter, Bunny College, Holiday Collection, Ribbon Berry Bunny, Dreamy Parfait, Mademoiselle de Paris, Sweet Bakery, and Cream Cookie Parade? Not to mention the ones that aren't on lolibrary yet.

>>10017246
AP Paris has currently 1 skirt in stock and dozens of dresses...

>>10016834
Just saw this. Such a basic shit, but I’m excited. I wonder if they’re making some new colorways or cuts. CTP as sack dress might look fun.

>>10017280
And? Anons were saying they don't release skirts anymore. They clearly do, just not for every single release. Buy more and coordinate to inspire others to do the same if you want more skirt releases.

>>10017246
>Okay now you just sound dumb. You know very well you could not.
ntayrt but you can easily convert a JSK into a skirt.

>>10016857
Yes, but I won’t share it as I am not a pro at Japanese nor editting.
But they will release a physical manga at the end of January, because a lot of people requested one, so maybe we can try to request a translation? KERA blog tries to be open to westeners, so maybe they will listen if enough people beg? I really love this manga!

>>10017295
I can't buy more skirts, I already have all of them. I'll just wear a halloween skirt from 4 years ago.

>>10016722
If this isn't translated yet, I can take a crack at doing it. At work right now though, does anyone have the raw dump for it?

>>10017321
Not every lolita is into making their own clothes. Besides, one of the nice things about skirts is that they're cheaper than dresses.

>>10017323
Oh, didn't see this post! I'm not a pro either, but if you want we can work together and may be able to tackle the parts the other doesn't fully understand. If you're interested, let me know and I'll drop a throwaway email. Even if we don't release it just yet and wait for the physical drop, we can always get a preliminary script ready.

>>10017295
If the argument was about AP not releasing any skirts at all, congratulations, you've won! Nobody here actually cares about you though, people are just complaining they can't buy their favourite prints in the cuts they want.

Speaking of skirts, when is the last time ETC released one? I feel like every time I check their webshop, they have the same one in stock.

>>10017337
Are you actually following the thread of discussion? OP said they could make skirts and that anon said no they couldn't. How the fuck does that anon know they can't make skirts?

>>10017346
Yes, from the beginning of that discussion, multiple people were saying they want more skirts

>>10017354
And then an anon mentioned a bunch of newer releases that have skirts but if a print comes out and theres no skirt then make one.

Don't know how to sew? Learn.

Does anyone know who did cover artwork and manga for GLB? I only remember yoh

>>10017372
No, I hate sewing. I'll just keep bitching until they release more skirts and until then I'll buy from baby or other brands.

>>10017383
Macoto Takahashi and Mitsukazu Mihara,too.

Also, if the translator anons end up actually translating the manga,thank you so much! You are helping the international lolita comm. If you don't, perfectly understandable,it's a lot of work.

>>10017383
Nakamura Atsumiko

>>10017346
>non print skirts I could sew myself for a fraction of the price
>for a fraction of the price
You lost some key words there anon

>>10017447
oh whoa.. uh, I don't agree with cutting costs in this fashion. either you pay for quality or you pay for garbage. pick one.

>>10013190
>>10014745

^this anon again.
I have now sent a message to her and given her until thursday this week to give me the tracking number, or I'll open paypal dispute (unless the dress arrives before that).

Despite having fairly poor nerves, I'm a patient person. I understand if someone is very busy, but it should not take 20+ days to cough up a tracking number even if they're nice otherwise. I don't want be in this situation nor put her in a bad place, but I feel I have no choice at this point since she has ignored my previous messages last week.

>>10016772
>>10016841
thank you anons!

>>10017464
you definitely are patient i’ll say. i will wait a few days maximum for a response. even if you’re not able to get the dress you’ll get your money back. sucks when that happens but what can you do.

>>10017837
Yeah, since it takes quite a while for a package from the US to reach my country I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt. But now I’m pretty fed up

Genuine leather bag for those interested
¥ 22,680
http://www.andcompany.co.jp/items/14297909

>>10016834
Afaik everything is MTO. I was only paying attention to CTP (because I’m in the market for it) and it seems like it’s being rereleased in the same colours and colourways.

Tfw CTP is only going to be about $400 and someone is listing their old one for $900. Y’all get it on my behalf and enjoy!

>>10017939
Fuckin lol, I knew people would try panic selling their CTP in light of this news. To be fair, at least the old release will. Ost likely be higher quality and still someone sought after still.

>>10017947
I wonder how many of those will pop up afterwards. There’s a plenty of Holy Lanterns around, but market doesn’t seem like flooded with them. I just feel like keeping money for some next wishlist items, but also don’t want to remorse when there’s no CTP pieces on sale.

>>10017954
Honestly people will probably still try to sell them at a high price. I’m sure there are some who will buy this release purely to attempt to resale for more money.

>>10017939
kek i saw that too
no headbow

>>10017968
shuper rare collab!!!

What was the last print that AP did in Japan?
Anyway. These latest prints scream Taobao to me and feel so uninspired.

This winter collection though.

>>10017980

New Meta release! It's called Grimoire, there are three cuts and several accessories. It comes in three colourways: Darkness, Umber Rose, and Garnet.
>JSK ¥34,344
>Princess Sleeve OP ¥60264
>Sack OP ¥35424
>Bonnet ¥11664
>Long Headdress ¥5400
>Bow clip ¥4104
>Socks ¥2376

>>10016857
>>10017323

Do you have the raws for chapters 1 and 2? I have them from 3 onwards but I was too dumb to save the first two. If so please e-mail me and let's work together. I have confidence in my translation skills and I'm sure we can find an anon to help us typeset. E-mail is in the name field.

>>10017984
Man, the garnet colorway is gorgeous. Can't decide between cuts though

>>10017982
AatP did better.

>>10017984
I hope they release skirts with the offcuts of this print, it's so gorgeous but I'd want it for daily wear

People seem so sure that CTP's value will drop with the rerelease but to be honest I'm not so sure. If it's retailing for $420-ish on rerelease (could be $400-500 depending on currency conversion and where you live) and especially if it sells out fast, its value will probably just stay there or incease, especially if AP doesn't do an MTO. Moreover, people expect like the original suddenly won't have any added value either, but why should that be the case if it's the original and perfect condition for its age? Sometimes people go for the original over a rerelease depending on certain factors, like unexpected or unadvertised changes in the rerelease (Misty Sky comes to mind - the color of the lace was white instead of matching colors in some of the first rereleases) or quality issues (see the most recent Holy Lantern which apparently didn't wash as well in some cases). Not to mention it will likely be a bloodbath and sell out super fast, like the earlier Misty Sky rerelease after some years was.

Just last thread someone was saying they wouldn't mind buying one secondhand for $900 despite the rerelease.

>>10017333
>i already have all of them
>all of them
nayrt but stop lying anon.

>>10017985
Aren't they all on kerastyle?

>>10018002
tldr

>>10018012
No, you can get the current chapter on D Morning's site and the previous week's chapter on Kerastyle but after a week they are gone. So right now you can see #8 on D Morning and #7 on Kera, but only those two. I fidgeted with Kera's image URLs to find up to chapter 3 but I think they deleted the images for 1 and 2.

The manga's author posted a few short prototype chapters on Twitter before he got published which are still online, so maybe we can start with those to give people a taste of the manga. Those are all on Kera.

>>10018002
>http://www.angelicpretty.com/news/2018museum/order.html
It is a MTO though. The anon who said it was a re-release couldn't read Japanese.

>>10017980
She’s cute but my god AP please use another model. Her face looks so bored in every shot and in turn bores me and I don’t bother to take a second look at the dress on her body.

>>10017984
Hnng I want a skirt or jsk with just the upper book part of this print.

>>10017980
It’s so baggy on her.

Did any of you gulls,especially into (old school) sweet, feel "inadequate" or dare i say "ridiculous" looking when in lolita?
These past two years i haven't been wearing lolita much,only one time a month or so (because reasons) even though i still actively bought some. Yet,something changed, I still love sweet more than any other style (even though i like gothic as well),and people tell me it suits me,that my coords are nice yet I can't help but feel "wrong". I almost feel like i'm wearing a costume at times even though i stray away from anything overly childish or costumey/OTT and keep it fairly casual

How do I feel "right" again? It's killing me. Maybe it's because both my parents and my ex used to shame me but now,even though my current SO says she's ok with whatever, i still ask her "won't you be embarassed?" every time we go out together and i wear lolita because i'm an insecure bitch.

I'm not even that old,just turned 22 this month,maybe I should lay off the big head accessories? But I love my head eating bows and maxipad headdresses

>>10018029
She's a JP XS-S and AP has the last couple of years been at JP L

>>10018039
I know how you feel, I used to feel like this a lot.
And I gotta say, it's simply this society which I can't turn off.
Whenever I wear really cute-sy pastel sweet coords, I feel so costume-y and weird, because I think "who would ever leave the house like that."
That's because we are not used to seeing someone wearing something like this outside and even the bravest person will get tired of the attention you get. Toned down styles, darker colors and classic is much more close to the alt styles you already see running around.

Now ask yourself: if your style was completely ordinary and noone would treat you differently, would you still feel "wrong" in it?
If yes, maybe this is not the style that suits your inner representation of yourself.
If no, you are just having a hard time with how others see you.

>>10017982
bring back loyal rosette! I do like the style of headbow though.

>>10018039
This anon >>10018048 gave great advice. Ever since I started lolita I have been lusting after darker styles and especially old school gothic and aristo but eventually found myself buying sweet again. I love the colors, I love the details and I love cutesy motifs. In the past few years I have sold off nearly all my pink and pastel wardrobe ans replaced it with black and florals without even noticing. Then I was forced to put together my first proper gothic coord and I was sold. Since then I have made a promise to only buy more gothic because no matter how tempting the sweet it I will never feel and look as good in it as in gothic. Of course, I will keep my remaining sweet pieces and continue to wear them too but I admit the attention I get wearing pink vs wearing black is super off putting. I recommend you follow your instincts and wear what you enjoy the most wheter it be sweet or something else despite what's ridiculous to others. In the end you are the only one who is going to loose if you don't.

>>10018025
Seconded.

>>10017984
I think this is absolutely beautiful, and I'd buy it in a heartbeat ...if it didn't have the border and was books all over.
Also the sleeves on that OP are to die for.

>>10018072
Thirded. Kendall Jenner syndrome. Not everyone is made to model.

>>10018048
>>10018071
Thanks,you gulls made me feel better and I feel relieved to know i'm not alone feeling like this.
It definitely is the attention I get. Whenever I am with friends that are dressed like me I don't really feel as bad,I feel better,more confident, because the attention isn't on me alone

>>10018048
nayrt but on one hand, wearing pink and light colors does feel good, I do feel pretty, but on the other hand it gets so tiring to wear it when people have such an adverse reaction. Even when I drown everyone out with a big pair of headphones, I can't ignore people talking about me, taking photos or downright treating me as if I'm some sort of second class citzen. Of course some people are nice, but the majority act like I'm some sort of freak show. I love lolita, and I wouldn't give it up just because of the public, but I'm tired. I'm exhausted, and I wish it wasn't such a big deal. My city is usually used to weird fashions as well, so I'm 'lucky'. It's just a lot to deal with sometimes.

You're right, I feel like I'm in the wrong because I'm the outlier.
On the other hand, I don't want to wear gothic. I like sweet too much.

>>10018082
Sometimes you feel better about it and some days you just won't have that energy and that's okay. Pastel sweet isn't for everyday.
Try to chose days that will save you energy. Days when you are mainly travelling in a car, taxi or uber, days you don't walk around a lot but rather stay at one place like a house or café, days when you are not alone.
I couldn't imagine wearing some of my coords without my friends, because their style will be even more OTT.

I am most comfortable with sweet, when I can have this "living in my own small world" thing, when I forget that this style isn't normal.

>>10017985
I'm interested in typesetting/cleanup. Lmk if I can be of use!

I really hope they don’t make CTP bigger. It should be the original cut, right?

>>10018042
Well, then they should use a model who is the same size as their clothes. This looks weird and unflattering.

>>10018077
Fourth-ed(?). To me, she gives off a bitchy vibe.

Do you think Wunderwelt stopped selling lots because chestnutlili scalped them all?

>>10018169
nah, they just seem to sell lots occasionally

>>10018156
I feel like I’m the only one who likes the vibe she gives off. That being said, I’m still sick of seeing her in every AP ad.

>>10018132
I’m more worried about them switching to polyester instead of the original cotton, anyone know if that’s at all likely?

>>10018170
Yes but the last time they did was more than 2 months ago when they usually do it every 3-4 weeks. They also barely uploaded non-lot items since then.

>>10017982
I love this color

>>10018178
That's extremely unlikely

>>10018190
Me too anon. Me too.

>>10017955
Not to mention it's still difficult to get outside of Japan itself. If they opened up MTO outside of the event, then I can see it dropping drastically in price, but if they keep it behind closed doors then it just means that we'll get a new influx of them but they'll still be on the rarer side.

With the announcement of a CTP re-release, which everyone said was impossible, I've got renewed hope in a Honey Cake rerelease. I can almost taste it gulls, my body is ready.

>am legally married with wife now
>dream about a nice,aesthetic (but small) wedding with her,where i could achieve my dream of getting married in lolita
>her parents threw her out after her coming out
>my dad was abusive and my mom went a bit crazy along the road
>both got no friends irl because they either a) live too far now or b) changed a lot and we barely ever talk to them
I just wish I had friends and a normal functionning family. Doesn't help that i'm a lonelita so no comm friends

>>10018177
I think she looks great on photo shoots where she’s forced to interact with the environment or look another direction besides right at the camera, but those are few and far between. If I see her pull another Blue Steel Im going to @ angelic pretty I swear to mana.

>>10018249
On the off chance that you live by me, I'd go to your wedding. That may be weird but this is a genuine offer. I'd love to see a small Lolita wedding and support people who feel like nobody is there for them. Who knows, I may just become friends with you or cuck you!

But it early, congrats and wish the best for you two.

>>10017984
Wow, I love this. Seriously thinking about getting the OP but worried it might be massive (most Meta dresses have been on the bigger side for me). Can anyone tell me how Meta sack dresses tend to fit?

>be me
>be praying for a cinema doll rerelease every time we get Holy Hell Not Again
>it finally happens
>oh i'm broke
It wasn't meant to be this way, not like this, never like this

>>10018265
Same. I’ve been coveting the thing since I got into lolita a few years ago, now it’s finally my chance to get the dress in my preferred color way...and I’m back to being a broke college student.

>>10018249
Aww I’d go to your wedding anon, no joke.

>>10018082
I feel the same way, anon. I love pink and will never abandon it, but people in my city look at me like I'm a mascot. They don't say mean things, but they try to get my attention and comment on it and take pictures. It's very tiring. I wear big headphones that you can't miss, but older ladies and guys will come right up to me and start talking and get upset when I don't respond/look put off. I love wearing lolita out and about but I have to budget my energy with it sometimes. If I have a busy day, I won't do it, or else my mood is terrible after. Makes me feel like a failure.

I want to wear more casual wear like solid OPs and plain JSKs with cardigans or sweaters. Any recs for non-blouse tops from Japan/China to wear under JSKs?

>>10017984
this is so beautiful! Man idk if i can spend the money right now but this is amazing and just my style

>>10018288
There are plenty of cutsews that look exactly like blouses but are much comfier to wear, I actually prefer them to blouses most of the time; or you can wear a cute cardigan or bolero on top of your JSKs instead, which can tone down your coord further. I'd just look in secondhand sites if I were you, there are many cute tops for sale if you're patient and know where to look.

>>10018265
C r e d i t
D e b t

>>10018265
>>10018278
I'm the same. It was the first print I saw that made me want to wear lolita but I just don't know if I can swing it right now. I know that AP barely makes skirts anymore and I wasn't holding my breath but I was secretly hoping they would just because they're cheaper than dresses and I'm trying not to spend much on clothes right now. I guess I'll just wait another 6 years.

So apparently the new cardigan I got had some serious dye transfer... I only figured this out after I wore it over a dress... then undershirt I wore turned really blue, though luckily the dress was black. Now, I am super afraid to wear this cardigan with anything not black... should washing it a couple times remove all the extra dye? it was literally brand new and I didn't even think to wash it first, I'm a retard.

I know it's only socks, but my wallet is quaking for this. Moitie socks are so hard to find.

>>10018262
>cuck you!
What

Is this the lolita feels thread now?

>>10017984
wow this isn't my style at all, but i can totally appreciate this release for how gorgeous it is. are we on the brink of a meta renaissance?

>>10018156
I don't hate Risa, but her sad baby pout face worked best for larme and larme influenced lolita releases. Comparing >>10017982
too other ap catalog photos makes me miss the fun energy of 2012.

>>10018326
Shhh, don't say it out loud or the crossboardeds will invade here too. Let them continue to circlejerk in the feels thread while assuming they're talking to girls when they're just ERPing with one another.

>>10018303
I didn't see these in the store, are they being released soon or are you just looking for them/ waiting

>>10018358
Likely being released soon, there's a post on Lolita Updates about it.

>>10017984
Meta is just destroying all the Japanese brands with innovation. This is obviously going to be a bloodbath.

>>10017984
meta is out for blood

>>10017461
How much do you think it costs to buy materials for a skirt? Even if you bought fabric that's a similar weight and hand as an AP skirt and nearly identical lace, you're still looking at a skirt that costs less than a secondhand AP skirt goes for on the western market.

Pic related, for example, is going for $198 on LM.
According to AP, the main fabric is polyester organza (their website says organdy but organdy is a different fabric) and the lining is 100% cotton sateen. According to fabric.com, a medium weight 100% cotton sateen is approximately $7/yd and polyester organza is at most $4/yd.
You'd probably need about 3 yards of lining and 5 yards of organza. That puts you at $41.
Daisy lace similar to the one on the apron straps, bodice, and skirt costs around $3/yd if you buy it from Joann's without a coupon and you'd need around 7 yards, taking your total to $62.
Organza ribbon for the bows on the bodice and skirt and for lacing can be bought by the spool, for $5 for 50 yards on Amazon. You only need about 2.5 yards, so that's $0.25.
The appliques like the flowers on the dress can be bought from various sellers on eBay for approximately $0.10/piece. Assuming there's 50 flowers on the dress, that's $5.

All of these factors put together means that the dress costs $67.25, about 1/3 of the price that it's going for on LM.

>>10018265
>>10018278
>>10018300
Chill down, y’all! I bet there will be a plenty of those second hand. Look how many Holy Lanterns or Chocolate Rosettes is around. Everyone and their dog get this dress, it will totally pop up second hand for under $900.

>>10018480
Agreed. If anything I've seen a lot of people buying into the hype whom I've never seen talk about CTP before, so there's a chance people will regret sell their dresses after the MTOs come out.

>>10018476
>Even if you bought fabric that's a similar weight and hand as an AP skirt and nearly identical lace, you're still looking at a skirt that costs less than a secondhand AP skirt goes for on the western market

I don't know why you responded this way. I said what I said because I don't care about these fucking poorfags who don't want to shill out for a JSK. Which was is what >>10017447
suddenly mentioned.

I'm getting a skirt altered currently, I had to buy two of them. $180 for each, already paid the seamstress $300 in work. She's not done because I asked her to add a side bustle. I haven't paid for that part yet. I expect it to be another couple hundred or so.

Doesn't hurt my bank, anon.

If girls on here want to cry about how they need to be able to buy cheap skirts in a luxury fashion, I hope they keep crying like the little bitches they are.

Like I said. You either spend money or you don't.

If a print comes out and there was no skirt cut? And you really wanted there to be?

Pay to have it then.

I won't have sympathy for people who refuse to do what it takes to get what they want. Fucking entitled losers.

>>10018476
Why are we even having this discussion? $70 in raw materials is a lot once you factor in the cost of everything else needed to produce something like this. You can’t give $70 to someone and expect them to churn it out. The knowledge and experience needed to sew something at this level takes years and a good amount of money to acquire. Also a proper sewing machine that can work on this type of fabric and finish seams isn’t exactly cheap. That’s not even taking into account the other tools you need to produce a garment of the same quality.

>>10018500
Yeah right

So who is actually going to buy CTP here?

I've seen many people talk about how they want to, but most are saying they don't have the money. I already paid my SS to reserve the pink set for me and feel like I'm entirely alone? Did people only want the dress because it was so "exclusive" and now no one likes it?

>>10018301

For anything that isn’t a printed main piece from Baby, IW, AP or Meta, always always always wash anything that’s black, red or navy at least once before wearing it. Normie brands are actually kind of notorious for never ever flushing excess dye from their clothes before sending it out for sale, so you always have to wash them before wearing.

If the colour still runs on the second wash, try soaking it in vinegar to “set” the dye.

If it still runs after that, lodge a complaint with the brand, and blacklist them. Their quality doesn’t seem that great anyway if they put out black cardigans that will stain everything it touches.

The older stuff from Baby, IW, AP, Meta do this too, and if you buy a cotton/natural fibre solid in dark coloues I’d still wash them before wearing to flush out excess dye — but with the newer print pieces (and by newer I mean anything after ~2010, ~2012?) the prints seem to have become more colourfast and less likely to have excess runoff.

>>10018519
I'm going to get it. I can't decide between pink and gray. I feel like gray looks better and is more 'me' but pink is more memeful.

>>10018519
I also paid for both colors so we might have the same SS, i know a few SS are taking orders.
Also this is hilarious, this is in the comments section of the listing that selling CTP for $900 w/o the headbow, last comment is the lister.

>>10018476

Labour cost is usually 3x the material cost, so if the materials turn out to be 1/3 the price of a secondhand skirt instead of 1/4, what's wrong with that?

You should just try making your own replica. You'll find out very quickly why people would rather pay $198 for a skirt. It's not like you buy $70 worth of fabric and trim and leave it out overnight with some milk and then house gnomes turn it into a nice skirt for you by morning.

>>10018476
>being this retarded
Please stop participating in discussions about this fashion until you know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>10018519
Also getting it but can’t decide the color. Anyone have any pics of the grey worn saved that can share?

>>10018525
While I think gray is a unique color, I felt like gray was more mature looking when the dress is already cut that way, so I opted for pink. Nice to know I'm not alone though!

>>10018526
Wow, that's hilarious. I don't need instant gratification and I don't mind waiting to
1. Get a complete set
2. Have the dress NWT,
and 3. Save about $400-$500.
Someone's just butthurt they can't sell it for 3k anymore.

>>10018538
Search #catsteaparty on instagram. Lots of girls wearing the gray colorway!

>>10018519
Am I retarded because I didn’t see a price listed anywhere for it.

>>10018541

>>10018519
I have ordered grey! Hopefully we can all get our dresses.

>>10018519
I was about to pass on this one because I lack funds rn, but my lovely gf has ordered the thing for me! I’m so happy!

>>10018519
I ordered gray and my best friend ordered pink.

But it's true. I think a lot less girls order than you think. There are still many who can't figure out how to use a SS or are low on funds.
I mean, not everyone has 450 bucks to spend.

>>10018526
that's hilarious, she's so damn salty.
>>10018540
I'm happy to wait too! Plus, it's getting cold soon so I'd rather wear all my ops and jewel-toned pieces!

>>10018526
I'd be salty if someone was on my listing trying to tell people I'm scalping. I can understand her ire but at the same time, it's funny.

im raging why would iw do this

just release a normal version ffs

>>10018573
Of course you'd be salty, because no scalper likes to hear the truth.
I'm usually defending mild scalpers, like, either someone pays it or not, but come on, this is just embarrassing.

>>10018249
This >>10018262 but without the weird cuck shit

>>10018288
I'm partial to casual cutsews like pic related for a comfy everyday look

>>10018558
Hello my name is "can't figure out how to use an SS"
I want the dress but I'm kinda stupid

>>10018598
Just message one of them

>>10018598
>>10018608
At this point you might have to message a few.

Got this in mail. It BTSSB, looks like millefeuille jsk but central lace is different. Its definetely not replica but maybe its just look alike but diffetent jsk? I need help :)

>>10018630
they've re-released this so many times over the years, it's most likely just one of the variants

>>10018526
She's not wrong, I bought a holy lantern and iirc it's not shipping til February. I just wanted a new one if I was gonna pay retail price anyway tho

>>10018476
>Implying the hos who use neon macaron print quilting cotton could box pleat, pattern, and sew well enough to make a replica of this that isn't trash

>>10018578
No one is going to buy this and it will end up in LPs if it isn't reservation only, brands are retarded with the cuts they choose to release. So many girls who love IW floral prints and all of them wear fancier coords, not this weird Bohemian tiered look

>>10018632
Thanx sis

>>10018635
... yeah dude it’s an MTO, you didn’t know?

>>10018578
I like mori but what a waste of a beautiful fabric.

>>10018652
>mori
wat

>>10018656
Whatver, natural kei then. Idk anon, like I feel like someone would wear that dress with a shitton of knitted layers and it would look cute as hell. But not lolita

>>10018500
Just wondering,
why would you put that much into an alteration? At that point you may as well be getting it made from scratch.

>>10018519
I'm getting the grey version!

New IW Release:Flora the Flower Goddess. Three colourways, releases on October 26.
>High Waisted JSK - ¥25800
>Tiered JSK - ¥27700
>Waistline JSK - ¥24800
>Headdress - ¥6400
>Bouquet Clip - ¥5900
>Square Collar Blouse - ¥17800

>>10018665
oh look more lucky pack fuel

>>10018665
>that purple colourway might be interesting
>check website
>nvm it's just a badly shooped brown

Glad to see more flower prints again though. Now they just need to bring back regular floral pattern that are not underbust cuts and I'd actually throw my money at them.

>>10018598
Most SSs have a section on their website that says “Instructions on How to Order,” dumbass.

Who are some lesser known SS? I feel like all the big ones are probably full now but I want some CTP

Here you go anons. Oh wait, it instantly sold out.
>https://mobile.twitter.com/cc_ikebukuro/status/890769015039078400

>>10018716
Just try some anon. AP hasn't posted a limit and is allowing phone orders.

>>10018716
>>10018717
Ha oh god

>>10018662
Because I wanted to wear the print.

>>10018368
You know I kinda have to agree with you

>>10018519
I thought about it but then realized I only wanted it because it's CTP and I'd probably never wear it. I've reached the point where I want my dresses to serve a purpose and not just be there for bragging rights

>>10018717
Holy shit that price
2017, idk if that makes it worse

Someone please buy Lor a blending brush

>>10018630
it's probably the 2012 version. I have it in all black and it looks the same as mine:
https://lolibrary.org/items/btssb-millefeuille-jsk-1

>>10018524
Thanks! It's a velour cardigan from Meta. Seller bought it in 2011 then put it in the closet NWT and finally decided they'd never use it. I'm retarded and should have washed it first anyway, but it was and had been wrapped in the original packaging and never worn, and I was in a rush and threw it on. My bad. Thank you so much though.

>>10018648
I know but why does it take so long? Factories are pretty quick with other MTO products

>>10018871
Because AP shouldn't use just any old factory or risk getting their designs stolen? Because it takes time to make products? Rushing causes mistakes? They are still producing other MTOs and normal collections on top of this one? Why would you expect it to be fast

>>10018476
>fabric.com
>suggesting ebay trim from Chinese factories

whew this is a strong candidate for new copypasta.
I'm dying.
don't just be all talk famalam, I dare you to commission a cheap replica like you're describing. Let us know when it's done and we can do a side-by-side worn comparison. maybe then you'll see the value of quality materials and how much time and experience goes into the details on the real mccoy.

I have more patience for handmade itas than I do a half-arsed armchair seamstress who doesn't even lolita.

>>10018534
>It's not like you buy $70 worth of fabric and trim and leave it out overnight with some milk and then house gnomes turn it into a nice skirt for you by morning.
Fuck. This would be so awesome.

>>10017287
i'd rather kill myself than wear a sackcut of ctp

>>10018329
>implying meta hasn't always had the best dresses

>>10018876
>>10018871
I cannot imagine the amount of dresses that the chinese lolitas ordered, especially with Holy Lantern. IRC the melty berry princess MTO was actually stopped due to the sheer amount of dresses that they ordered. I think there's a photo flying around of a truck that's completely filled with boxes of Melty berry princess and that was only ONE SS.

Holy lantern actually had some issues in the first run too, the black socks were printed incorrectly I believe, and they had to ask customers if they wanted these incorrect socks OR wait for the correct ones to be re-made and sent out.

>>10018549
thank you!

>>10018519
ofc AP wants me to drop $450+ on CTP during the most expensive time of the year, the holidays

>>10017947
I'm predicting that value will drop for CTP all around, no one is selling it for $2-3K ever again unless they magically pull out an exclusive cut/color for the re-release. I predict $500-$1000 after this wave is done, which is still nothing to scoff at

>>10018514
My seamstress charges $35 an hour. Do the math.

>>10018717
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT PRICE

>>10019067
This freaks me out. I bought CTP because I like it, but I would also like for its resale price to not plummet to $50.

>>10019107
Has there even been any MTO dresses that the price has plummeted on? Misty Sky has gotten more releases and MTO than any other dress and I still see it going for $500.

So I need advice gulls, this was one of the first dresses I bought, paid for a SS to order during the preorder period, the whole jazz.
I wore it a few times and it’s just, sat in my closet. I tried selling it once but it didn’t sell. I think my issue is it’s not particularly flattering on me, a mix of being a bit too small everywhere and being a higher waist cut. The waistband comes right below my boobs and makes me look fat, I feel. I’m also not in love with how massive the neckline lace is and also how the colours are more muted in person than in the stock photo.
Do I try and sell again or keep it, i’ve come to terms that I’m never wearing it again as it stands, but i thought if I chop the top of and convert it to a skirt I would wear it more often. I’m confident in my sewing abilities that i won’t just ruin it, but I feel kinda bad messing with a perfectly good OP by cutting it to pieces.
Thoughts?

>>10019107
I don't think it'll ever drop to that price, to be honest. Holy lantern still holds a pretty damn decent price and Melty Berry is still being sold on the western market for about 300USD, which ain't that bad. I think most girls will be holding onto their CTPs for a long long time.

>>10019115
That looks shit in comparison to the shop photo, wow. the colors, the lace even looks different on the neck and sleeves. I'd chop it and wear it as a skirt if you feel you'd actually wear it that way. Sorry, anon.

>>10019115
Id try selling it, since I doubt it's urgent. I've had things sit in the market for like a month before finally selling, and if you sell it at a good price, someone will buy it. try the facebook groups as well.
However I dont think the skirt idea is too bad. If you do that, make sure you'll wear it, since it would make it way harder to sell.

>>10018265
I can't find any info on cinema doll other than here, can i ask for a spoonfeed

>>10019107
I don't see the set dropping under $500 for a while

>>10019067
>I cannot imagine the amount of dresses that the chinese lolitas ordered
I recall seeing a photo on weibo last year of a chinese lolita who had gotten the HL sack dress and zipper jsk in every colorway. Plus I've already seen posts from a few chinese lolitas saying that they would get CTP in both colorways.
At this point, MTOs are the only way that AP can keep up with the demand.

>>10019115
I'm in the process of converting a jsk into a skirt right now, o I'm probably biased lol
Imo it depends on how much money you could get for it. If someone paid you idk 120$ for the dress as it is, sell it. If it goes under 100$ and you actually would wear it as a skirt, transform it.

>>10019030

That's what made me write it. I'm ripping out a shirring channel right now because I sewed it in the wrong place and found out when I put the dress on and the shirring lovingly curves under my foodbaby belly instead of around my waist. orz why is this dress so wide? Fuck me.

>>10019245
>I can't find any info on cinema doll other than here, can i ask for a spoonfeed
Only this once anon

http://www.angelicpretty.com/news/2018museum/order.html

>>10018519
I love AP but I'm not interested in any of the rereleases their doing fofor the museum
>my wallet can rest easy
The only dresses that I'd be interested in that also go for a lot second hand would be Honey Cake or Romantic rose letter (tiered version)
But I know honey cake wasnt popular on release and I'm not sure that asians like it so I doubt it will ever see a re-release

I'm happy those who like CTP and Cinema doll can finally get a rerelease though

>>10019287
I could go for a rerelease of Wish Me Mel. Pretty sure that's never gonna happen though.

>>10018723
Why not lose weight instead?

>>10019107
I hope the resale price plummets, I missed the reservation period for CTP and am hoping I can snag the set in pink for $500 or under.

>>10019340
what? The reservation period doesn't start till tomorrow. And it'll be on for 6 days. It's a unlimited MTO, you can even get your SS to call over the phone and reserve it.

Finally got my IW halloween lucky pack in and got burned pretty badly, a complete red riding hood set in pink compete with furry cat ears, ugh
I really like the cut off the dress and it's super comfortable though, so i might try dyeing it and make matching accessories from the cape

>>10019351
>cat ears
Pretty sure they're meant to be wolf ears.

>dyeing a printed dress
Why? Just sell it and buy another dress in a similar cut, which I'm sure IW has released before because the Red Riding Hood series isn't all that special in terms of cuts.

>>10019107
I never understand when people buy dresses and then worry about the resale value. If you like it, just keep it? Why would you buy something while planning to sell it after?

I'm probably just being really petty, but have any of you ever had a girl in your comm straight up copy you? I know it's nbd for people to have the same dress (even in the same colorway) sometimes because that's just how it is, but there's this one girl that's now gone out and bought or wishlisted three separate prints I've worn shortly after I've worn them to a meet she also attended. One or two I'd consider just a matter of having similar taste or a coincidence, but with three there's an actual pattern. Sometimes, I'll wear a dress and she'll comment on how she's "so jealous" or how she wants one too. Honestly, I can't tell if I'm bothered by it in and of itself, or if it's mostly because I otherwise dislike this girl to begin with. A lot of people in our comm also have a problem with her.

>>10019358
I've had a somewhat similar problem in the past, except that in my case the girl got a cheap replica of my piece that she coveted, and had the gall to ask to borrow some of my accessories so she could have an exact copy of my coord. I can't say whether this "solution" would work in your case as well but as annoying as it was, I simply turned a blind eye to it until she stopped on her own.

>>10019358
Does her name start with M? Sounds familiar

>>10019358

I had a girl try to skinwalk me and went from wearing same dresses, to wigs, to showing up outside my house uninvited to the point where I needed a restraining order placed against her.

>>10019358
Is she new to the fashion? If she's new I wouldn't be too bothered because when you're new you probably haven't seen that many dresses yet. The novelty of seeing something new kind of makes every new dress a potential wishlist item, if that makes sense? Especially if you can see them worn since dresses tend to look better irl than in stock photos. People who have been around for a while tend to know what they like and not be swayed by every pretty new thing they see. Even so, I don't think I'd personally be that bothered about it if I didn't dislike the girl, and then only because I'd feel like she was trying to somehow associate herself with me by wearing the same dresses

>>10019362
I would love to hear this story

>>10019359
That sounds worse, really. She never asks me for anything or mentions anything other than how she likes the dress and wants one now. At least it hasn't been the same exact cut so far, only the same colorway. She's pretty big and I don't think she can fit anything unshirred. I admit I'm also kind of jealous and annoyed since she buys things I want and could fit into, then proceeds to stuff herself into them. But that part is my own problem.
>>10019360
No, it doesn't. I'm not surprised that this seems to happen a lot, though.
>>10019362
Jesus. I hope it stopped after that.
>>10019364
Neither of us are new, and she's actually been in it for longer than me. She also buys new dresses more often than I do. I would definitely be more understanding if she was new, I agree with stock photos often not doing some pieces justice.

>>10019362
Sounds like a legit horror story. Can you tell us more?

>>10019356

I don't think it's so much the resale value, but if more like if you paid full price for it now and then next year someone is just giving it away.... you could've had it for free if you were prescient and waited one more year, yanno? And that $500 or $900 they spent could have gone towards their student loan or whatever rather than disappearing into a devalued item that you can now get for nearly nothing.

I mean, they probably still love it and would probably still buy it even if everybody else disliked it to the point they were practically giving it away, but visibly losing money like this is still a little harsh.

Not the anon who originally posted, btw.

>>10019358
Is this C who moved to SF?

>>10019372

I wish I could talk more about it, but I feel like she's here even now.

She ended up sexually assaulting a drunk girl recently at a con.

Gulls, please help.

Should I get Cats Tea party? My friend can do a MTO for me. I never allowed myself to want it because it was so rare and I do quite like it, but I can't tell if I only want it because it was rare or if because I genuinely love the dress. I am also torn because I could use the money for other things right now.

Also I can't tell if I like gray or pink better.

>>10019115
not to be rude but this looks like average taobao and I think you should chop it because it won't sell for a lot. I think it would look better as a skirt anyway, and maybe you can make a cute rectangle headdress out of the bodice and neck ties!

>>10019312
she wants to wear it now and probably lose weight the steady healthy way (a.k.a slowly).
also, it's a good investment because other plus sized lolitas would definitely buy it if she ever sold.

>>10019408
I really want it, anon. Really badly. Do it for those of us that can't. I would eagerly spend the money if I had it, so please, do it for me and everyone else who wants it so we can live through you.

>>10019414
Also tall people/broad shouldered gulls need alterations too. Can lose weight but can't lose height/bones.

>>10019351

>An actually cohesive coord
>cat ears for Halloween

I know the set isn't to your taste but I gotta admit I'm low key jealous because of all the times I've bought them I've never once received anything that makes an actual single outfit in an IW lucky pack, let alone one where the items match the theme they're for.

>>10019408

If you can actually spare the money I'd say go for it. Seems like you'd be able to sell it to the broke girls who can't afford it right now, this would be the first batch of dresses to go out so you'd be right on top of whatever hype train happens, even if there's another MTO later on. So even if the dress gets to you a year later and you're all "yeah, nah, I thought I liked it but nah", then at least it's not a total loss completely.

If we're actually talking like you'd have to not eat or live without electricity or can't afford school supplies for a while, or you can't pay off your CC and have really high interest rates for the next few months -- no, no dress is ever really worth that.

>>10018024
in-store Japan-only MTO which limited amounts of people can access =/= online MTO which everyone can access
still though if AP did an online MTO I'd go for it.

>>10018122
nayrt but I've started thinking about doing this more often too, because I also feel out of place when in sweet, even super toned down sweet.
when I'm visiting friends and family at their houses or when I'm alone in my own house, that may be a good time to wear sweet, because it's more "private", as sad as it is that it's not as comfortable wearing it out in public more often.
otherwise, public places with limited amounts of people, like a quiet park, are good.
(the "park" where I live has basically almost no one there at any given time, lmao. there's also some other small parks and such that are bigger, or nicer to visit, and still have almost no people around if you go at a good time of day. a couple people drawing attention is better than way more than that imo.)
if you have even one light enough coat to wear (and not during the middle of summer or if you live in a tropical area), you can maybe cover a more OTT sweet coord with it until you arrive at your destination if you are travelling in public, too.

>>10019115
I don't see any reason in your post to keep it? Why do you even have to ask?

>>10019356
I don't understand it either. I bought sugary carnival when it was very expensive for me and now I could never sell it for that much. But it just makes me happy that I can easily buy it in several colourways and cuts now.

Gulls what would you do? I forgot to give my apt # to a seller and the package ended up being returned, no big deal. I told them I would pay for shipping to return it and to let me know once it arrived. It’s arrived now, three weeks after that, and the seller has not viewed any of my messages. I sent another follow up but it’s been two weeks and radio silence. I know it’s my fault for not including the apt # but if they never respond should I file a dispute with PayPal at some point? (Like a month from now), or just take the loss? It’s an old school skirt and I paid basically $100 in total including shipping. The seller has good reviews but I’m worried they’ll never log back on to LM.

>>10019446
I know that? What are you even trying to say.

>>10019459
what's the issue here? You got the item... why would You open a dispute? what is your "loss" here.

>>10019494
Read the post again, the package was returned to the seller and the seller isn't responding to messages so anon doesn't have the item nor her money.

I'm really curious to your guys' opinions since I'm not the most knowledgeable on AP. Since they're now rereleasing CTP, which Imai Kira didn't want to rerelease, and also Horror Garden and Cinema Doll which would go for higher than retail secondhand, do you guys think the MRC JSK has a chance then someday? When's even the last time they did jacquard like this?

Loads of people want it, goes for stupid amounts secondhand, isn't velveteen, seems like it's possible to me. And with Horror Garden only being the JSK and OP I can see them cutting the other cuts even if I do like the skirt.

>>10019502
I hope they do. The collar jsk also seems to sell for consistently high prices on the Japanese market too. If they rerelease it, I hope they do the socks and beret too.

>>10019459
Email them, contact the mods, email them one more time telling them you apologize or whatever but you will open a dispute if they don’t respond in - days

>>10019502
I fell victim of Deerstalkers magic. Whenever I see that PLEATS moment, my heart skips a bit and I feel like I really want it. But then I figure it's not versatile at all, so every next coord is gonna look the same as previous.

>>10019287
I would give Maki and Asuka my entire savings account for a re-release of that stupid goddamned pancake purse.

>>10019459

Well I had a brief stint where gmail was shunting lacemarket messages to a different tab so I'm somewhat sympathetic to the seller maybe not having seen your messages. Plus been on the end of buyers not responding to messages where I needed some details for the mailing form.

Anyway, if you've paid her once already, presumably you have her email address. I'd just try a google search with that, or her username, popping her email into facebook search, see if you can find any of her other accounts that you can politely message her with.

I'd do that before the dispute -- etiquette aside, if you open a dispute and then close it, you can't re-open it again. So say you open it, sellers comes back and says she can't invoice you now since her account is under dispute, you close it, skirt arrives and has a problem, you can't open another dispute.

>>10019527
>it's not versatile at all
What makes you think that? The chocolate design is quite subtle and the JSK can be worn in several different ways, with several different colors. Looks pretty versatile to me.

>>10019494
Anon do you have dicks in your eyes???? Bruh learn to read!

>>10019376
>>10019356

Original anon here. This is exactly why.

I don't buy dresses to resell them. I consider all my purchases "dead money."

For me, I fear that I'll wait something like a year, and find out that so many people got the MTO that I could have waited almost the same amount of time but got the dress for dirt cheap. It would seem like a slap in the face. I think anyone, in any situation, would feel like they got burned.

>>10019527
What other AP dresses are there where the skirt is pleated in a similar way? Off the top of my head I can think of Moon Night Theater but nothing else springs to mind.

>>10019527
Only if you are really uncreative.
You can coord it with mint, pink, cremes, gold, moccha. In a cutesy chocolate way, an elegant way, in a maid theme, in a school uniform theme. So many options.

>>10019502

Actually, now that you mention this, what was the last AP chocolate jacquard? I vaguely recall Whip Chocolate, and then nothing after? Did AP just stop making them?

Maybe we should email in and point out that this cut was really popular, and they'll make another jacquard again. I'm not really sure that they keep track of which specific jacquard is popular, as opposed to just assuming the jacquard trend is over when their latest jacquard series doesn't sell well.

>>10019539
Too many to name, you can search on lolibrary for AP main pieces that have pleats and find many of them, both printed and solids.

>>10019538
This is a misconception. I can't remember a dress that went below retail value after a MTO (not even Holy Lantern or Misty Sky).

>>10019538
It's not really a slap in the face, not sure why you think that. If anything, I think it's better to drop the full price on a highly coveted piece that I want to own and is now being rereleased, than to wait and see if the price drops after the MTO so I can buy it off someone else. If you really want this, you should just get it.

>>10019539

Box pleats? There's quite a few actually. Usually the marine/sailor dresses, the "school" or "academy" dresses will have some pleats, and if you trawl through them some of them will have box pleats. Then there's the other chocolate jacquard series. I think nearly every release has had something with box pleats in some form.

Those are just the obvious ones that are easy to find, if you go through the "pleats" tag on lolibrary you could probably find a handful more stuff that has box pleats as well.

>>10019539
promenade de paris skirt comes to mind.

>>10019452
Read the post. Tried to sell it, didn't sell. Can sew well, wants to know if we think she should convert to a skirt.

>>10019546
I did. I reserved a spot and paid in full the same day the details were released about prices. That's mainly why I am so paranoid. I know I shouldn't be?

>>10019577
If anything the prices will be lower than 1k, but higher than retail due to the number of people who have been saying they are too broke to get it now but still want it.

>>10019577
You really shouldn't. I understand where you're coming from, but just focus on the good feeling of being able to own a piece that you want.

>>10019546
Nayrt but it's like buying a dress for $200 only to have it come up for $100 a bit later. Sure I'd still be happy to have the dress, but it still sucks

>>10019597
Yeah but do you really want to make that risk?

Does anyone know if AP would be willing to ship an MTO overseas?
I'd be able to get the museum event myself to reserve something, but I'm not living in Japan

>>10019649
No, they won't. I've tried before.

>>10019541
It was the stupid one with excessive braidwork iirc, like there was sharply contrasting braiding on each colorway and the fabric just wasn't as cute

>>10019030
Bet those gnomes never sew something with the seams the wrong way like my dumb ass.

>>10019649
They normally don’t. For this one I ou pay half now and half when it’s ready, so it’s extra unlikely they will be shipping them.

>>10019668
oops weird typo

>>10019661
Melty Whip Chocolate is cute hush yo mouth

>>10019414
>>10019426
>>10019312
I'm not huge by any means but I also don't have a 64cm waist and I don't think I ever will. The skirt didn't have shirring or any kind of give so it's either become underweight for my height or get it altered.

And now it's going to have a side bustle.

How do I stop this from happening? Pic related not mine, it's happening with delicate printed dresses

>>10019702
Just some general tips are to keep your nails filed well, make sure your bags dont have any zippers or hardware that will catch, that you don't sit or lean on anything rough, and your jewelry doesnt have any rough spots. If the snags are happening in the same area every time then that can help you narrow down the cause so you can stop doing that.

>>10018519
I put in a request for the grey set.

I love those derpy cat faces.

>>10018278
Ah dude, me too. I’m back in school too and up to my eyeballs in dept, wishing that I was weak enough to dip into my student loan.

>>10018476
Yeah, but you also pay for labour and the intellectual behind the design. There more to fashion than just materials.

>oof
just bid on a blouse that i could get for 5 bucks cheaper on the bodyline site
Guess I’ll consider it a quick delivery fee

Did a payment for this baby like ten minutes ago. I’m basically glad, but also feel some sort of remorse. What if I will never make it to wear the dress? I’ve been looking for it for a while, but it never appeared in BNWT, so I grab whatever they had out of despair. Maybe it’s all dumb, who knows how much time it takes to find unworn thing. Anyways I still a bit cringe.

>>10019834
If you don't get to wear it and it just lies around in your wardrobe unworn, you can just sell it. It's a bit sad when you buy something you think you'll love only to end up selling it after barely wearing it, if at all, but it happens and it's okay.
Do you have any accessories to wear with it? Does it fit in your wardrobe? Instead of focusing on your possible buyer's remorse, think of the ways you can wear it, hype yourself up to it.

>Woke up just a little bit ago specifically to buy the Grimoire print
>Make mistake of going and adding some other socks to my order to hit 40000+ and just to ship with
>It's only been a few minutes since they went up, but hair clip already sold out, quickly buy JSK in panic

I put in an inquiry right after I finished just going ahead and buying the JSK and socks, never done with with Meta before. What are my chances probably of actually getting this hairclip? How well does this inquiry/waiting list work for hot new releases?

>>10019863

They're honestly great and will bend over backwards to help you buy whatever, provided they actually have stock left somewhere. Their rakuten is also sold out of the same colourway though, so your last hope is that it's way less popular in some walk-in Meta branch store and they can find just one more hairclip to let you have it.

Your other hope is an MTO re-release, but given that Amber Rose isn't even sold out I don't really think it'll come to that.

So I guess your odds aren't completely great. They might still be able to find one somewhere to sell to you, but maybe it's also time to consider alternatives if they're just all sold out of it.

Ap musuem pic dump

Half jacket half cape thing from Boz
>https://twitter.com/boz_honten/status/1055688309786140672

I'm shocked what's happening there's no way these are in "excellent" conditions, should I never trust Closet Child anymore from now on or did they just make a mistake...?

>>10019668
Wait, it's half now, half laterm? Because that I could do.

Cinema doll has been a DD of mine for years. Literally since it came out. I keep trying to convince myself that my style has changed and I don't need it, but I feel like crying every time I check my bank account, knowing I have other bills to pay.

>>10019863
>Finally going to buy Meta again after not buying it for years
>Only cut and colorway I want sells out

Meh. I don't care enough to email them, I wanted it but not that much, I hate the overly fancy chiffon trend they've released so much of. This was the only one I liked but it's still a little dressy for daily wear. The star collection one recently was similarly cute but too fancy... Guess I'll wait for one to show up cheap secondhand and if I never find it nbd

>>10019804
How much was it, when the sale wasn't on and shipping was not free, blouses were costing me like $25 average total price

>>10019930
I bought an "excellent" pirates bag that was cracked and peeling. The pictures didn't show the damage, there were no close-ups of that area. I don't know wtf is going on with them, I used to get dresses marked damaged that had maybe a tiny bit of piling on the sleeve but now damaged stuff is costing more and more on CC

>>10019953
ayrt, to be honest I too bought a coat from them that had damage they didn't show. However in my case it was only the lining that was unstitched in an area. I always heard good things about CC so I thought they didn't notice. I think I will avoid buying from them now, unless I see something I really want. With shopping services, filing PayPal claims is difficult, too. Definitely not worth it ):

>>10019952
Only like 20 bucks, but they’ve got a 50% off sale and free shipping from the store going on right now.
I’m not too miffed about it, sometimes it’s just like that lol

>>10019937
Yeah but wouldn’t the SS request all up front? I didn’t realise it was half now half later, this changes things

>>10019962
I don't know, I need to find an SS who takes half and half. Ugh...

>>10019962
>>10019965
Muuh is doing half half

Not sure where else to post about this but I just watched mi_te_yo's ig live and she has the nicest voice. I expected all the doll girls to sound super forced kawaii like Misako but no, her voice is very natural and on the deeper side. Do they usually talk with their masks on? I've only ever seen silent videos of them before. Also where is her headdress from?

Does Lief boobloaf like IW?

>>10019650
Damn it. Thanks for saving me the embarrassment, anon

I m so happy i can fit in lolita including old school pieces without trouble or too much trouble but i am so tired of being a womanlet with small af boobs,a small butt,small hips,normal thighs,... i hate my body my waist isnt even super small (a boring normal 67cm) and i am short too (5"3). Lolita hides my body and makes me hate it less but i am so tired gulls...at least i have a flat stomach but still no bf/gf

>>10020074
Feels thread this way >>10015998

>>10019834
Since we can't try on clothes like other people, I think almost every lolita has had a remorse buy.Some big, some small, but I'm sure everyone has done it. The good thing is that you can just sell it, if that's the case. I honestly love that dress, it's really cute. So no worries, everyones had a remorse buy, but maybe you'll love it. Its sometimes worth the risk.

Is there any chance Meta will rerelease Grimoire or do one of those skirt pack releases with the off cuts of the print? I flipflopped on it due to money and by the time I decided to buy it all the versions I wanted were gone

>>10019649
As this one is half upfront half later, it doesn’t apply. But, if the MTO is fully paid upfront, you can let them send it to a Japanese address, like for example one from Tenso. I have done that with another store and it went fine. It is cheaper than using an SS.
Have to admit the waiting and not knowing the exact release date, did freak me out, but I tend to worry a lot about everything.

Also some Shopping Services offer a Japanese address service and some of them accept COD payments for that service, you of course have to pay the SS the ammount upfront.
However you still have to pay an SS fee, so using one of the various Shopping Service on FB would be easier and cost you pretty much the same ammount.

>>10020106
I don't know about a rerelease but it's worth to email Meta and ask about the piece you want, if I'm not mistaken they can check their in-store stock for you so you might still have a chance to get the cut/s you want.

>>10019897
Yeah, woke up this morning to an email from them sent about 20 minutes after I filled the inquiry saying it sold out literally everywhere and I'd be put on a wait list. Ugh I really hope they make more stock or do an MTO for the darkness and garnet colors or something, hot BS how fast those sold out. I guess I'll try and be victim to someone selling it on Mercari/Fril if anyone will since it's not AP nor a kimono/hakama set. I just really liked the hairclip and felt like it was the perfect accessory.

>>10019951
I hope for you they rerelease. This was faster than even pretty recent hot AP releases, damn. Even had more time to buy that bat bag that came out with Ghost Night Bride than the accessories for this and the JSK followed shortly.

>>10020106
Oh, >>10020111 here, it seems like a few of us were burned. I'm guessing from my email from Meta the dresses might be sold out everywhere, but I'd email not only just to ask by chance but also maybe if enough people ask they'll do a rerelease. I know they've done that in the past.

>>10020106
Jesus Christ this print is beautiful. Seeing that jsk in garnet, just wow!

>>10020115
Will do! I want this print so badly, even though a skirt cut would be ideal for me if they restocked at this second I would buy the sack dress or jsk straight off

This is such a stupid problem, but I haven't heard many people having this issue. My wardrobe has zero cohesion. I love almost all styles of lolita.' I don't even have a color scheme in between styles that I like, I just like a lot. It seems like so many lolitas I follow have such defined styles, they like sweet, gothic or classic and it makes me want to have a style like that. I own a lot of things but storage is always a problem, I wish I could cut down so I could save space, and if all the accessories and dresses I owned could be transformed into the same substyle I'd have an enviable wardrobe, but instead I have a mishmash of pieces that don't really go with each other. I don't know if there's anything I can do to solve this, but I'm sick of buying things only to find that they won't really go with anything/I need a missing piece.

Does anyone relate?

>>10020123
Yeah, I only buy pieces that I really love, but as a result I have a lot of random things that I can only make 1 coord with. Sometimes I see versatile things that would fit well with my wardrobe but I just don't love it enough to buy it.

>>10020123
Literally me. It's shameful... My wardrobe is huge but no one would be impressed by it because it looks like such an ugly mess

Will baby stop doing re-releases next year since it wont be their 30th anniversary annymore?

>>10020134
>My wardrobe is huge but no one would be impressed by it because it looks like such an ugly mess
This. And I feel like such an idiot when there's a meet and I have a couple of things I could wear but none of them are *quite* right, or I just don't have the right hair accessory. None of my pieces have versatility because I just don't have a defined style. To someone who has a defined style, they would be.
Buying shoes is a nightmare.

>>10020140
After the beautiful things other brands have been releasing this year, this is embarrassing.

>>10020140
All I want is them to rerelease the not garbage cut of Traumerei. It's getting towards Christmas, I want it so bad. But then again in their rereleases of very popular prints they never rerelease the cuts that people actually pay top dollar for.

When even was that previous rerelease of the more OTT cut, was that 2 or 3 years ago?

>>10020144
it's obviously a re-release and it sold out

>>10020123
I feel like I have the opposite problem, I own like, 6 pink blouses for the 10 dresses that match them. I don’t own a single white blouse. I like the cohesiveness of my wardrobe but I’ve had to mentally have the conversation with myself “hey. Stop buying pink blouses. you have too many.”
I tried to branch out and at least get a white blouse but I didn’t like any of them. I just like pink I guess

>>10020148
I just want them to release the OP cut of traumerei but as a print-less dress. It's the most beautiful cut I've ever seen, but I don't like buying a dress that I can only wear one month a year. I hope you get this anon!

>>10020142
>>10020123
same feeling. No idea what to do about it, to be honest.

>>10020172
Ah thanks anon! I want it in red the most but it never pops up, I'd maybe take navy. I kind of agree (even if I'm a hypocrite since I own plenty of Halloween prints but I excuse those as overall gothic), but Traumerei is so gorgeous and I kind of feel a cozy connection to the print. It really reminds me of the rainbow row in Charleston, SC which is near where half of my family lives. I'd love to own it and wear it Nov/Dec and show it to my grandparents.

The OP is also a super pretty cut, hopefully someday anon! And at least if they do it's not like it will be some print everyone is battling each other for.

>>10020150
Still ugly and basic as fuck. Look at that cut, who does that even suit? You can see the quality issues even in the stock photo

Does anyone have that pic of Misako sitting in a hoard of brand in her extra storage room? The room was really dark, she was sitting on a bed with brand piled around her.

>>10020223

>>10020225
I hope this is me some day

>>10020225
Thanks anon!

>>10020231
If I laid out my wardrobe like this, it'd probably look about the same. It's doable, you can do it anon.

>>10020123
I don't really see how this is a problem if you really have that much. There will be overlap if you truely have a lot. Lolita doesn't vary that much.

>>10020223
>>10020225
That isn't Misako though?
But she does kinda look like her

>>10020247
Shit, its not? I thought that was just her without makeup. Who is it then?

>>10020152
I’m similar, I hoard so many black blouses and think because I wear gothic that they’ll just go with anything but in reality I have one that goes with everything and the rest only go with one or two specific skirts and dresses each. I bought that new green moitie blouse as an attempt to branch out and it’s really nice, but needs a shitton of alterations in order to make it look good with anything I actually planned on wearing it with because it doesn’t fit me well at all. I was so excited to wear it too but I don’t have time to alter it yet and just keep falling into patterns of wearing the same one black blouse with everything even though I have a ton more. I need to stop.

>>10020366
I have black and white blouses, and I thought, hey~ this is great, it'll work with any dress I have. NOPE. Not at all... They work with some dresses, but some dresses just need other styles. And while I could technically wear a black or white blouse with any of my dresses, would it look good? nope. Mixing styles doesn't always look great, then you have to take into consideration materials. Torchon lace on a blouse won't look amazing with a tulle lace dress, etc.

>>10018476
This has so much potential as a copypasta response to lolita at hearts and cosplayers trying to larp as lolitas.

>>10020225
That’s not Misako...
Doesn’t even look like her

>>10020415
So who is it? Really curious here

Every time I think I'm done with sweet and I'm going to sell it all off and start dressing slightly more mature (ie, classic & gothic), I get the biggest nostalgia wave and can't sell a thing. Fucking hell.

>>10020422
Keep wearing sweet as long as it makes you happy, anon. There's no requirement to "grow out of" sweet once you reach a certain age or something. Just do what makes you happy.

>>10020437
Thanks anon, I just emailed a SS for the CTP and cinema doll reservation, but I feel like I should be going into less cutesy styles that suit me more. I re-watched deerstalkers stuff and god, I fucking LOVE that sort of sweet. Can't give it up. Never ever.
Ah fuck it, I'll be rocking pink 'til I'm dead!
>insert momoko quote "80 years old, dying alone in a baby dress," etc etc etc

>>10020108
Thanks for the information, anon!
I'm going to give it a shot and see if they're willing to send it to tenso

>>10020467
Cinema Doll can be coorded very elegantly too, if you choose to dabble in that at some point. Otherwise, keep doing your thing!

Girl Leopard just launched on the US site... The series includes furry spats in black, beige, pink and white... I think the white and black might be useful for winter coords.

>>10020242
No anon. I mean having an entire storage room of just "extra" lolita dresses.

New bread: >>10020501