/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Does anyone have any tips to stop eyeliner and mascarra smudging into panda territory? I've been trying to deal with this for as long as I've been wearing make up

>>9726581
Wear primer.

>>9724404
It's kinda tricky because "everyday" makeup vs what you're calling "natural looking" is pretty different. In photos, you can often pack a lot of makeup on but not necessarily look super made up although in real life it might be obvious that you have full coverage foundation, contour etc. The girls you think look natural still have full foundation (possibly some photoshop as you'll notice they don't have any texture to their skin which even the clearest of complexions should have in photos), probably some contour or at least highlight as well as blush, and reasonable amounts of eyeshadow but just in shades of brown and lipstick but more in pinks rather than the browns, brights, and nudes etc that are instagram popular.

Is anyone else concerned about getting "yellowface" accusations? I see more online justice warriors insisting that straight eyebrows, or lip tint, or circle lenses are automatically yellowface?

I do take inspiration from Japanese and Korean makeup styles but I don't think doing so means I am trying to look Asian. Most western makeup trends currently aren't appealing to me right now.

>>9726671
Those arguments aren't logical, they're usually flung around by kids who don't know anything about the world and are trying to be virtuous warriors defending ~*the weak*~
It's really nothing to be worried about. The same people like to argue that lolita fashion is "cultural appropriation", not realizing that it's based on fashions that were popular in the west in the first place so if anyone is guilty of "cultural appropriation" it's the Japanese girls who started it (which is also a dumb point because the argument at its core is bullshit).
Just do what you like. A tween calling you names online because you're wearing circle lenses is not a big deal.

>>9726671
I don’t worry about it, people are just stupid. It’s so easy to reverse the argument as they try to look western, as blue, green and grey eyes, blond hair, etc. are Western features, which they try to addapt. Same with creating a white skin, fake eyelids and bigger eyes. But of course whitefacing is not a thing...
As you might notice I think the whole discussion is kind of stupid. Just let people do what they want. It’s not like we are creating a racist stereotype or anything. Or motives also aren’t ones were we make fun of them, it’s just actual appreciation for a certain make-up style.

I have to say nobody ever said anything to me about it, I also doubt if they can guess your race through a photo. (When you wear gyaru make-up like the one below, as it hides your standard features.)

>>9724404
>I just don't want to look washed out in pictures.

Anon are you wearing blush? If so, what kind/color? For a natural look, IMO, good foundation and blush are the only necessities. You can add a little or nothing to your eyes. Blush is really the key to not looking washed out.

>>9720932
>How important is your makeup to your coord?
I like matching my make-up to my coord and think a different make-up style can really change how an outfit looks. The same oldschool coord could look creepy and doll-like with one style or simple and girlish with another, or a classic coord could look subtle and contemporary if you follow modern Japanese trends, or like you're an elegant lady from the past if you take inspiration from historic trends. I'm not amazing at it by any means, but it surprises me how many lolitas don't adapt their make-up at all, just using the same product placement with every outfit (maybe with different colours).

>>9720995
I often use contouring or draping for gothic to make my face less cutesy, but I have to be very careful with it to avoid looking too manly. With sweet I nearly always use a shimmery highlighter and sometimes contour my nose a bit, with classic I stay more natural but if my skin's too bad to get away with sheer coverage I have to use light contouring to stop foundation alone making my face look washed out.

>>9721190
My favourite simple cute routine for beginners and casual looks (I'm pale with brown hair):
>BB cream in a consistency that can be applied with fingers
>brow mascara /lightly filling gaps in brows with eyeshadow (might not be necessary if your eyebrows aren't as light as mine)
>single eyeshadow colour all over the mobile lid so you don't need to blend multiple colours and can even apply with a finger (pick colours close to your natural lid like matte brown, or shimmery pink/bronze - monotone eyeshadow can look weird or dated if you use bright shades)
>brown pencil liner on the upper lashline and lower waterline (blend a little with your finger or a Q-tip)
>little bit of champagne/pale pink shimmer eyeshadow or pencil liner n the inner corners to brighten the eye (avoid stark white)
>dark brown mascara (I tend not to use lengthening formulas as a lot are clumpy close-up)
>matte or *subtly* shimmery pink blusher (NB bright pink blusher looks natural worn if you don't use a heavy hand, I usually apply blusher nearly last so I get the amount right)
>lip tint / lip gloss (no 00s frosty glitter, go for a simple sheer) / natural lipstick (e.g. rose pink)
Depending on the outfit I might do black mascara and eyeliner instead, maybe a subtle winged liner or a red lip, but eyeliner and lipstick mistakes show up much more with stronger colours so it's harder if you're new. This make-up is quite soft, even larme-ish if you apply heavier blush, but it looks very nice in person and you can expand from here to try things like highlighter or daily false lashes.

Googling common make-up mistakes, advice on where to save and where to splurge with different make-up products, and trying out things like different blush placements to figure out what you like might help you too.

>>9721300
Agreed, it won't show in photos but it'll show IRL when you blink or look down.

>>9720995
I wear sweet. I use subtle contouring to make my nose look slightly slimmer/smaller and to make my jaw and chin look smaller and cuter. I usually use 2 shades of foundation to do this. It tends to look really smooth this way. I have a somewhat angular face. So I try to make it look.softer and rounder.

>>9721095
Hooded eyes are tricky. Learning how to tightline is your friend.

>>9721300
Yep. And there are tricks to blending colors from past the fold to make your eyes pop more. Hooded eyes just need different techniques than other eyelid types.

>>9721652
You might be allergic to a specific ingredient. I can't use eye makeups with acrylates. Maybe look at the specific things causing you trouble.

>>9722789
Using more than 1 layer is a basic technique. Some foundations are buildable for this purpose. And I prefer to use 2 layers of lighter weight foundation rather than jumping to full coverage.

>>9723258
Eyebrow bleach kit

>>9720988
Fuck, why has every brand of eyeliner I've ever bought never produced such a clean line?
Anyone familiar with this eyeball know what they're wearing?

>>9732118
Get Dollywink or Kate Tattoo liner.

>>9732125
>>9732118
Eyeliner brand honestly doesn't matter as much as your skill with the eyeliner.

>>9732127
Certain eyeliners are easier for beginners to use, though. Especially the pen type eyeliners like KVD or Dolly Wink's where the tip isn't too flimsy.

>>9732128
Felt tip liners area lot easier for beginners use, even if the wing won't be as sharp. Not sure what you mean by pen type, since that can mean either brush or felt.

>>9732129
Anon means liquid liners where it's a stick and you take the cap off to access the brush/felt, as opposed to liners where it's a brush in a pot.

>>9732131
Yes, which can mean either brush type or felt type sweetie.

>>9732132
Pen as opposed to pot. Where you hand grips the applicator also affects how easy it is to apply eyeliner.

>>9732135
ntayrt but I'm pretty sure that anon knew what a pen type liner is, they just didn't know which type of pen liner that was being referred to, since felt tip and brush tip liners are pretty different in terms of applicatin.

>>9721000
How do you make yourself look so.. soft? whenever I wear eyeliner and especially heavy eyelashes I look like a whore, I just wanna look cute help

>>9732185
>I look like a whore
If you really feel the need to treat yourself this way, you're not gonna get any help.

>>9732185
Well, for that picture at least she just filtered the fuck out of it.

>>9732261
>>9732185

there might be some filter but you can watch her makeup tutorial for that look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snID726Y42E

using brown eyeliner and mascara makes a huge difference

>>9732406
She's using a skin smoothing and brightening effect over the entire video anon... you can tell from the skin blurring and lack of detail.

>>9732406
That video was pretty useless because I feel like I do everything "right" but thank you anyway haha, maybe the glitter in the corner of the eyes help for a soft look? I mean the video is obviously filtered but it still looks nice
Will try brown mascara+eyeliner! I've heard that one before and it's maybe what I need

>>9732255
hey whores are cool but I want to do cute j-fash too

>>9732185
imo hese two vids are really nice for softer looks but still photograph well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSmaThd89SU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs2Yc_lTSE4

>>9732502
Thank you for these. I really like the narrator's voice.

>>9732502
Thank you so much!

>>9732118
I use Maybelline New York Line Stiletto liner. Been using it since highschool and have never felt the need to look for a different brand. The line is nice and crisp and it's super water proof. I never feel like I have to touch it up during the day

>>9720932
I can't find the video of the bottom right corner look. I remember watching it in yt months ago,but I don't remember the channel's name or the video's title. Does anyone have the link?

>>9736643
She took it down because she ~didn't want to be associated with japanese things since she's chinese~

>>9720996
thanks, i actually find this really cute.

>>9732118
try revlon skinny liner, the brush is like two little brush hairs so its really easy to make thin sharp points. I havent had any issues with mine drying up either.

>>9736645
Nvm found it on bilibili
https://m.bilibili.com/video/av7146282.html
That's a shitty excuse? As if multiculturalism wasn't a thing, and Chinese and Japanese cultures weren't related(also,it's pop culture,not traditional)

>>9736784
yea, there's a bunch of discussion about her being a hypocrite on pull
she's a huge weeaboo but tried to erase any trace of it off the internet for a while because she was a ~chinese angel~

>>9736788
samefag, but it sounds like i'm exaggerating but she literally calls herself that

>>9736788
We are talking about Princessmei right? She's been spamming her trips to Japan and her Tokyo modelling jobs on youtube and insta for months now...

To stay on topic. I prefer lining just my top lid with eyeshadow using an eyeliner brush, can someone rec me some delicate falsies to keep things soft?

>>9736831
Yep, and right before she started modeling there she was talking about how insulted she was when people asked her she was Japanese, hence
>hypocrite
Even her first video, which is now deleted, started off with a rant about how people asked if she was japanese and korean and how she was very offended because she was 100% chinese lol

>>9736863
I think Mei just had a SJW phase and got self conscious because criticizing fujoshi/female fans of BL and Yaoi were really starting to become en vogue on the internet, so she panicked and quickly rebranded herself, trying to move away from jfashion, from cosplay, cut off ties to Omocat and her friendship with Seto Ayuni. Anything that has to do with Japan. I think she realized that was dumb now though, since she's now open about her BL obsession and posts about the doujins she buys in Japan.

>>9722838
Does this actually stay?

>>9737514
>her friendship with Seto Ayumi
That's seriously the only thing she kept and didn't try to hide, anon. That is the whole reason she's getting gigs in Japan.

>>9737530
Lip stains can get you that look, but that looks like it's done with a gloss almost so I'm not sure.

>>9737531
She was quiet about it for awhile though, I never said she stopped being friends with her, Mei just tried to make her image into a Chinese-American activist. But I think her followers didn't care as she got burnt out.

I like Mei. She's cute and I'm glad she's not hiding her interests anymore.

>>9737514
>>9737564
I mean.. that doesn't make her less of a hypocrite though. Especially since she used to complain about being
compared to Ayumi Seto. As well as all her "cruelty-free" stuff that she dropped as soon as it became inconvenient.
It's good for her career I suppose, but it makes her look really sneaky and just in it for the money. If she wasn't ok looking, people would definitely be on her ass about it.