/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10455474
Western indie designs are shit and use poly as well. Cgl has been full of complaints since always, don't take it too seriously. They'll still continue buying from brands.

>>10455427
it's mainly because it's cheaper for brands.

>>10455474
Western designs are shit, they’re more focused on size inclusivity than good design. Most of them are run by people who have no inherent design skill, they just got into fashion to make clothes big enough to fit themselves and then realized there was a large (no pun intended) plus size market. You watch any interview with one and their sizes and racial inclusiveness are all they talk about. That and whatever snowflake trend they can hop on. It was magical girls like 5 years ago, now it’s medical themes and spooky cute Halloween stuff

>>10455474
Most western brands look like Taobao but at a way higher price point. No thanks, if I need non-japanese brand stuff, I'll just get actual Taobao for cheaper.

>>10455530

Yes, this. Not only that, but it can actually look worse. 90% of Violet Fane looks so bad even in photos.

>>10454820
Scarves don't filter as much, why risk your life over aesthetics? Use a proper medical mask or do a triple layered cloth mask.

>>10454846
Sounds like you have pre-existing brain damage anon, might want to get that checked out.

>>10454820

Why are you insistent on still being an antimasker when there are so many cute breathable masks out there? Do you want to die?

>>10455530
I can understand that they’re more expensive because they don’t have easy access to cheap materials and labour like the Chinese do, and I’m personally willing to spend more because of that, but yeah the Western indie I’ve seen in person is about on par or even lower quality than the better Taobao brands. They tend to focus on prints too much while using low quality fabrics and printing techniques and often use shortcuts in construction.

My local indie brand has a line of boleros and cutsew dresses that are made of knit fabric yet sewn like wovens on a regular sewing machine. They look and feel very handmade but cost about the same as their brand equivalents. I bought from her when I was new to lolita and thought that Japanese brands were inaccessible to me. Many people thought I’d made the skirt myself and when I tried to sell it nobody wanted it, not even for $5. I eventually donated it to a thrift shop. She’s gotten better since then but not $250 per dress better, not by a long shot.

>>10455427
I live in a small apartment made of thick concrete. The insulation is good, the windows sweat in the summer. I run multiple dehumidifiers and keep the AC set not too cold, not too warm. There are pockets of hot and cold based on the AC units, the fans and vents I have don't help much

>>10455476
>>10455504
>>10455578
I’m just theorizing at this point, but what if there was good quality western indie out there? Would you buy it or would you still prefer brand because of the name?

It’s not as if there was something blocking the west from making nice clothes. I like miss danger designs a lot and they look like they are quality items from the pictures, but I have never owned one to be sure about it so I might as well be mistaken about it.

>>10455668

Nayrt but I've bought Western indie and like sure, I definitely would continue to buy it if the quality or cs was up there, but either one isn't or neither are.

Take for instance idd. Her clothes are gorgeous and despite being a little under the measurements her dresses still flatter me ridiculously. Despite this I only have supported her directly once because she decides to make updates with no real heads up except on IG stories. Kind of hard to support a brand when you come back home from work and everything is fine because she made an update while you were at work and busy.

I would really like to buy from Miss Danger one day but I also would not like to be the subject of someone's wrath because I dated enquired about a six month old purchase. Pic related.

>>10455679

Samefagging, but it's really telling when it's easier for me to get a release from a foreign country I don't know the language of rather than these English speaking indie brands.

The one indie brand I did have a good time with is and continues to be peppermint fox. Unfortunately though their dresses come up weirdly on my ribcage, but the poly fabric drapes nicely and they're good for both casual lolita and more dressy normie clothing. I've also liked mulberry chronicles in the past.

>>10455427
This is why I don't understand why central air isn't a thing there. It would really help. The stupid one room units are either freeze or suffer in hot humidity.

All I hope for is for brands to start making dresses in my size again. From AP to IW to Moitie, everything has become fuckhuge and I'm salty. I don't even get it, have the Japanese and Chinese gotten so much fatter over the years? I refuse to believe they're all catering to Westerners.

In the meantime, I guess I'll keep buying old brand secondhand, but I wish I could support brands firsthand without having to shell out doubly by having to get everything altered.

>>10455736
>I don't even get it, have the Japanese and Chinese gotten so much fatter over the years?
The younger generation has, probably because of the influence of western fastfood being all over the place.

>>10455736
No, I think the baggy look is trendy right now. Also their audience is older and no longer in their teens. I follow a few Japanese lolitas who are also having children so their bodies are changing and loose is more comfortable. Unfortunate if you like fitted looks.

>>10455780
Loose is one thing, but I don't think dresses being 15cm larger than body measurements is aesthetic in lolita, don't know if that puts me in the minority. In any case, I hope the trend blows over soon.

>>10455790
oversized dresses make the wearer look more petite, chinese lolitas eating that shit up because they want to look like twirly smol uwu fairies or whatever

>>10455794
That only works if you're a skinny rectangle. My measurements are small but I've still got a sizable difference between my bust and waist so anything loose just makes me look fatter than I am.

>>10455799
that's why I brought up Chinese Lolitas because they're mostly petite, shapeless teens and they're the ones making the trend popular so AP caters to them

>>10455794

I think it's more just Asia than Chinese but yeah oversized is a trend. Last summer in Japan all I saw was Japanese teens wearing American vintage too big for them. It's endearing in a way. Most Asian clothes are a bit big on me but in a flattering way if that makes any sense.

>>10455571
>>10455575
and immunonon again
I guess neither of you read the thing where I said "I already wear a mask whenever I go outside" and then explained how much fabric you need between you and the atmosphere to not get sick if you are literally immunocompromised
Did you know you can fold a scarf over? Crazy, right?
They can be made out of all sorts of materials too, wild
Heck, you can even slip another small piece of fabric on strings behind them

you don't need a gas mask with a charcoal filter to stay healthy, or even an n95, I would be fucking dead if you did

>>10455802
it's huge in korea right now too

>>10455846
sage for offtopic, I am so fucking sick of having to explain shit to healthy people, even the ones who are helping are blithering retards who'll shit on actual sick people who have already had to live like this forever

>>10455668
4 O’Clock existed but she went mainstream couture when it was viable. I’m not sure many skilled designers are interested in making lolita.

>>10455800
They don’t actually want an answer to their question, just to complain about being too skinny

>>10453511
Doesn't hurt anyone to be hostile toward pedos. When you see something bad happening, it is good to do something about it, rather than walk away and pretend you didn't see it.

>>10456075
I just think it's stupid and disingenuous; we share this board with literal unashamed pedophiles, this site with people who push drugs and cutting on children, and there are girls happy to throw Kyary under the bus for screencaps of flirtatious messages that still haven't been proven real in over nine years

>>10456075
>When you see something bad happening, it is good to do something about it, rather than walk away and pretend you didn't see it.
I would give my left arm for zoomers to do just that sometimes. I’ve seen so much weird porn just because they find it necessary to show everyone they’ve ever met fucked up shit they found online. If you aren’t going to actually do anything, just shut up and stop sexually harassing us all

>>10456092
it's your fault for thinking that just because parts of the site are bad, we all want to deal with it here.

>>10456104
Just gonna keep ignoring that nothign was ever proven so you can keep shitting on women huh
yeah that's real different form the other boards
trying to tear down a successful woman with zero evidence, real fucking progressive, good for you, so special

>>10455846
Research has shown that scarves and bandanas don't filter as much, but go off I guess.
Not like you mentioned that you would put a fabric filter in the original post either. Good luck with your illness and shitty attitude.

>>10456106
I bet you don't think Melanie Martinez did anything either.

>>10456150
Sorry I have a shitty attitude from constantly having to explain myself to healthies for the last six months and also every day before that

>>10456153
Bitch if you can prove it to me I will not be on her side; why the fuck don't you just post proof if it's so readily available? Is it because it's not and you're full of shit? Just post it or stop derailing every time you see her mug posted, it's like you somehow have a vendetta against a celebrity

>>10456172
Sorry you're so bitter, bless your heart.
Although it's understandable if you live in Burgerland and healthy people are idiots about masks.

>>10456175
you know what, my bad for just assuming everyone in the thread was also in the states, I always forget there are countries where people just fuckin wash their hands as part of the normal culture, god bless and save the queen and all that, merry healthcare

>>10456199
You stay safe and take care out there anon.
For all the salt, I genuinely wish you well and hope you get through everything OK.

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>>10456175
>understandable if you live in Burgerland and healthy people are idiots about masks.
nta but you have no idea lmao
its fucking hell here

>>10456217
Yeah I realised, after that I could understand why anon was so salty.
I can't imagine dealing with that level of fuckery and Karens everywhere.

Anyways to get this thread back on track, I'm hoping to see more cute hair accessories like this for masks.
Would be nice to see more gothic ones, i know baby did a hair ribbon too

>>10456224
Opps dropped my file

>>10456224
I want masks and mask accessories to become a thing SO. BAD. I'm debating punching a grommet into one vs using just the elastic bands as an attachment point. Or what about embroidering a design instead of screen printing.

>>10456236
Didn’t they make these or sometching similar pre covid? Also does anyone have any info on the heir quality. I’ve been considering an order

>>10456346
Jesus Christ I want mask charms. Cell phone charms left a whole in my heart that can’t be filled.

>>10457405
they still make cases with charm holes. i have one.

>>10457434
not her, but I never thought of a smartphone case like that, thank you based zoomer

>>10457455
>>10457434
AYRT I feel stupid but thank you. Zoomers can stay

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