/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10298617
It's funny they chose that person as the model because that's not even fairy kei, that's pop kei. Whew lads

>>10298738
>Can't see any details
>Everything I do see is garbage
>Shiny sateen fabric
>No fucking Poof
Bitch, are you serious??

>>10298685
That’s pretty normal, I think Nile perch or Listen Flavor did them in the past

>>10298607
Is this model Himezawa?

I mean the real problem here, and always has been, is that CUT/SEW has, at best, a tenuous grasp on what is and isn't jfash. While I think perhaps people got a little too riled up about this, they're valid criticisms.

>>10298724
This is the most piss poor excuse for poor research that I’ve ever seen. There are so many western lolitas who understand the aesthetic of the fashion. There’s no excuse for this.

>>10298563
>lolli punks
ok boomer

>>10298873
Lolli Punks was an actual brand that existed for like a year or so
They seem to have used the same manu as ManiaQ or something because there’s a lot of overlap in their designs
Not saying Cutsew’s design isn’t a disaster though, it is, but Lolli Punks is a real thing

>>10298947
Maybe if they referenced better brands this wouldn't be happening. They're ripping off existing items, just worse.

Trying to find the styled/accessorized versions of these outfits and all I can see is the a_smile_and_a_song and aobittybaby fairy kei photos? What happened to the rest?

>>10298607
Oh they really got this one wrong.... If menhera-chan was the inspiration, they should have known that menhera-chan probably wouldn't wear something so short and sexual

>>10298610
>>10298607


I stand corrected .....
Fuck.

>>10298669
>>10298649
lol the problem was just menhera and fairy kei styles fucking sucked. No one besides 2 people cared about the poc dance. If you feel bullied bc people tell you what works and what doesn't (Jelly bracelets in lolita btw), then literally fuck off and save the bandwidth.

It's a problem because younger new people will see shit like this and think this is what the fashion is. You need good representation to the style so people know how the looks are supposed to look. Instead of having entitled cosplayers with their head in their ass talk as an authority on these groups, it's best they actually work with people in the community, instead of these coked up friends. Hell, even @thealchemicfox dropped this because she was disgusted with how everything was presented.

And HCS should probably pay their friends, like Riss is constantly bitching about money, toss some money at them dude. I don't care if they are volunteering their time for you. Riss is struggling (albeit of their own volition)

Bonus meme: Ai saying they look black on their story and Blue losing their shit on theirs.

>>10298958
still just a menhera chan cosplay

>>10298953
there aren't any except the samples they made and sent to the models, the patterns were just released

>>10298844
My main problem with them is I don't think their patterns are what they're supposed to be, beginner friendly. Every time they come up in the lolita sewing group I'm in on FB, people suggest a different indie pattern maker or putting a rectangular skirt on a commercial bodice. I saw a rep comment that she doesn't recommend their patterns for beginners because they need adjustments and there are mistakes in the instructions. I've never been impressed with their instructions, which you can download. For the normcore pattern, there's no mention how working with knits and stretches are different. It takes two sentences to explain the what whys of a ballpoint needle. As an aside, why are the instructions only PDFs and the patterns only paper?

>>10298685
nothing wrong with that, i still feel like the collar is too high and should be lower.

>>10298963
Double bonus meme : dumbfuck you know you’re white passing af, you and blue have no skin difference in most pics and blue is pasty af.

god seriously what the fuck is wrong with shitty snowflakes

>>10299246
Idk you’re on cgl, thats kind of the whole board dude

>>10299246
You are saying this on /cgl/ who went nuts multiple times over things like Hot Topic releasing a "lolita" dress or a tv show altering lolita dresses and calling it "cupcake fashion".

>>10298844
>b-but we did hours of research!!!!!

On one hand, I was to support heycutsew as a small business but they clearly didn’t do any research when designing these patterns. It’s so easy to get a good grasp of these styles just by googling the style name.

>>10299638
They don't even normally get mock ups made of their patterns. There's space for what they do, but they do it terribly.

Their patterns look like done by someone new to tailoring so nothing of value was lost.

>>10299729
Considering their ouji pattern is for a cosplay for women, truly no braincells were found here.

>>10299796

Nayrt and their patterns are trash as far as ability to represent styles well but ouji is worn by men and women. Brands will often do even male and female cuts for some garments because of that.

>>10299260
>>10299246
The shitty snowflakes being the only audience willing to buy niche fashion. If they don't get it right, no sales... Plus, no beginner to 'styles' goes from wearing jeans and t-shirts to sewing. Not only are they missing their mark, they're missing their target. If people don't buy it, no money.

>>10299831
“Right” being entirely subjective
Fashion isn’t exactly cookie cutter, especially with one like jfashion that has no boundaries

>>10299949

Jfashions DO have boundaries. That's what keeps them distinct. Especially things like lolita where there are a small number of basic rules it's best to follow which has helped keep it from getting as watered down as a lot of the other street styles.

is CUT/SEW run by a Man? These posts read like a disgusting man wrote them, they obviously don't understand the fashion.

>>10299981
no?

>>10299995
>claims to have tailored for Disney World
>can't even get a waist right in her patterns
I call bs.

>>10300005
Disney hires a lot of people right out of college to make uniforms and costumes, not necessarily draft them. WDW makes all the cast member uniforms on site.

>>10300005
>worked in costume design
So not a major, just another shit tier cosplayer. A few people commenting on their shitty patterns were actual costume design majors, so you can tell that skill difference pretty easily.

>>10299799
Yeah but their ouji pattern is literally for a womens cosplay. Men can’t even use the pattern at all, my dude.

>>10300248
nayrt but all of their patterns are womens patterns because a lot fewer men sew. even among the big pattern companies they barely have any men’s patterns

>>10300322
do you know how easy it is to draft a pattern for a man's size vest and pants?

>>10299165
ok halsey

They should have known that that art was not representable, they should not have published that, desu. The next step is though that they own what they do, and fgs don't regret what you publish and share, that is just a wrong move. That only says to me that they are either too dependant on their sellers atm or dont have fricking feeling to stand on themselves. The last thing worries me the most (does not really, but as a seller, yes it would). Get a backbone.

>>10300366
Wh OMEGALUL ?

>>10300322
It is described to be a unisex pattern, no?

>>10299949
Again, no one has to be "right", but one cannot expect people to show interest in buying it unless they get it "right" according to their customer base's eyes. They can do what they will, but they cannot expect those who actually purchase such fashion to accept those whims. You see what I'm saying?

>>10298599
To people saying that it doesn't look like a nurse costume.
>"The doctor will see you now. Glam up your nurse game with this fitted medical-inspired dress..."
It's a nurse costume according to the official site description.

>>10300826
Adding to this though... If they switched the fabric out, put the model in appropriate clothing, and marketed the item as outerwear; it could work as a cute jacket.

I mean the concept of specific pattern for such jfashion is kind of stupid, lolita have a specific silhouette but fairy kei and menhera is more a question of print and styling ( maybe sailor collar but still ).

Thank the fuck. Their patterns sucked so bad, the one biggest grace to them is they self-identify anyone interested in their patterns as being downright stupid enough that the crappy stock photos (or lack thereof) didn't tip them off that the pattern can't possibly be good when everything else about it sucks so hard. There's no point supporting a small business whose entire life achievement is wasting other people's time and money into churning out absolute garbage.

Much thanks to the snowflakes who started this rolling. Extra thanks for the extra delicious tea that comes with this drama too. Christmas came early this year.

>>10299638
God this art is abhorrent. Is this what happens when you can't pay for talent?

>>10299638
God this is a train wreck

Mori looks nothing like mori. They don't look like what they're supposed to but mori might be the worst.

And why do they claim that the skirts weren't supposed to be that short when they're short on both the art and the model

>>10301613
my least favorites are fairy kei, gyaru, and mori.

>>10300959
Are they really snowflakes if they said what we’re all thinking? I think it’s nice we have people who don’t put up with this bullshit, regardless of how big the company is. Patterns were all shit, and I’m glad people didn’t just sit back