/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10152397
>America is the entire world, and its statistics apply to the entire world
found the brainlet

>>10152401
>If you cosplay in the way I don't like, you shouldn't make it public and just go into hiding because some idiotic black people might seek to destroy you

You're the bad guy. Not the other way around.

>>10152403
Considering that you already used the "reading comprehension" line before I'm doubting that. Also notice how you're no longer arguing anything and resorting to ad hominem because your point didn't hold up to scrutiny.

>>10152404
Which country with a significant black population doesn't have crime problems within its black communities?

I'll wait.

>>10152405
>The internet is only for me and my opinions. Stop disagreeing with me, you bully!
Also, you do realize more than one person is in this thread, right? For example, I posted
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>>10152403
but none of the images posted ITT, and I wasn't part of the discussions at the start of the thread. If you're a habitual samefag, power to you, but not everybody is. Crying "ad hominem" when someone points out you're bad at this isn't going to help you when your points are already weak.

>>10152237
It's not a problem as long as you're still trying to look like yourself, just with paler skin or a tan.
If it's feasibly possible for you to turn a certain skintone if you spend enough time in the sun or cold weather, there's no problem, like >>10152304 said.

>>10152409
Already went over this. Your attempt to bully cosplayers into submission is not innocent crtique. There's a reason why cyberbullying gets you banned on most social media platforms. You're a fucking asshole. Nobody cares that you got triggered from seeing body paint.

In the meantime, consider the possibility that your anger and intolerance towards other people is exactly what CAUSES racism. Most people are tired of black outrage culture and your feeling entitled to telling others what they are/aren't allowed to do or say.

>"Ayo dat white gurl be paintin her face. LETZ GET DAT BITCH DAWG! SHE GONNA LERN TODAY."

You are your own worst enemy.

>>10152409
I was just the guy asking about dark link.
Does he count as "dark" or black?

>>10152415
All I'm seeing is
>REEEEE stop ruining my life with mean comments you're CAUSING RACISM by HURTING MY FEELINGS bullying bullying bullying those fucking blacks REEEE
Get a grip, you snowflake. You will be okay without a hugbox or Twitch orbiters. No one has burned down your house or tried to kill you. It's not that deep. Everything will be fine.

>>10152418
Sorry, misquoted
IMO Dark Link is just dark. Shadow Link. So no, I wouldn't consider that "blackface", even if there are others who might.

>>10152407
How do you define a significant black population?

>>10152288
I get the point asshole, and still they chose to ignore any other interpretation, and use the actual Nazi swastika for fashion, because they think this is below them

>>10152323
Tanning your skin for cosplaying a tan character has nothing to do with black face but ok. Don't hurt yourself by all that reaching you are doing.

>>10152367
>stop being so parochial and self-obsessed, don't inflate your local problems to universal issues
>BUT ALL OUR LOCAL CONCERNS ARE GLOBAL, REEEEE
lmao

>>10152358
>>10152372
>muh american platforms
When all other arguments fail and you need to resort to ridiculous shit

Blackface makes caricatures of black people, but this cosplayer does not seem to be doing that.

That entire cosplay looks like shit, and she's not that attractive either. Not sure if there's any point in getting mad.

>>10152432
You were just complaining about how this is an American-only problem. The solution is obviously to stay away from American websites and use ones that are more in line with your world view.

>>10152436
We're not the same anon, oaf. I'm the mone making fun of you guys' retarded cultural values. It's cringy how you've managed to crawl so far up your own asses you can't even see reality from there.

That being said >>10152358 really is a full retard post that deserves all the mockery it can get since the idea that this is bigotry is totally imbecilic and the term POC is smoothbrained nonsense, not even used much in America except by people who also get really angry if you say "colored people".

>>10152435
Also people should know by now that getting angry at this type of things just makes the situation worse, as now she most likely will get more supporters from people who think this is bullshit. So I guess it's good for her.

>>10152421
You call other people "snowflakes" while simultaneously berating a woman because you got triggered by seeing bodypaint. You are the only snowflake here, Jamal.

>bump limit reached
thank the gods.

>>10152440
Can you actually come up with a decent counterargument to the point, or are you just going to call everyone idiots and obsess over some random person using the word "POC"?
You can avoid American problems by avoiding American venues. Why be so entitled as to think you should be able to use a platform while disrespecting its owner's rules, norms and values?
Do you go to Japanese forums and shitpost loudly because you don't know or care about their rules or etiquette, then start a huge fuss when you obviously get banned for poor conduct?

In all honesty, this kind of thing is probably why 2ch bans non-Japanese IPs once and for all. For every foreign user who will be respectful and a good poster, there are still a few who give no fucks and will screech into eternity when they can't circumvent rules and/or be disrespectful to Japanese culture freely because they're gaijin (which makes them innocent and can-do-no-wrong, I guess).

Americans are a bit more open-minded since it's a melting pot of a country, but they also have their own values. That cosplayer learned, and so have others who may just be finding out about this. Maybe they'll unban her if she tells them she truly meant no harm and didn't know what blackface is, but either way, there are other sites she can use.

>>10152444
I haven't berated anyone, and I'm far from a "Jamal", but keep throwing tantrums about how rude comments "destroy" you, snowflake. I'm not sure how you can even use 4chan while being this sensitive.

>>10152448
>Americans are a bit more open-minded since it's a melting pot of a country, but they also have their own values.
I'd be fine with it if they were American values and she was violating those, but those aren't the values coming through here. American values produce Trump. Only a subset of American moral scolds subscribe to bullshit like "POC", reparations, cultural appropriaton, blackface, MUH BIGOTRY etc. ad nauseam, they're just loud. If you ask some rando in Indiana, Kentucky, New Jersey, whatever, he won't give a fuck about blackface, and doesn't think that makes him a bigot.

>>10152451
There's obviously more than one face to America, and clearly, the face that you seem to dislike is the one in charge of important, large platforms like Twitch.
You can't actually say which one is "real" America, especially if you yourself aren't American.
To expand the Japan comparison, there are Japanese nationalists who despise Korean immigrants and all non-Japanese people in general and want them out of their country and away from their sites, versus Japanese people who don't give a fuck and accept Korean people, and even find other cultures cool or interesting. One will ban you for whiteknighting Koreans or just being a filthy gaijin, while the other will ban you for excessive racebaiting or maybe even for being insensitive or racist to Koreans or other cultures in general. You can't call one "true Japanese" and the other "fake" or irrelevant just because you disagree with it.
In the future, maybe just pay attention to both sides (or the culture as a whole), read the air and avoid stepping on toes if you want to use American platforms. It's not hard, they shove their news and issues everywhere down people's throats.

>>10152452
Social media platforms are not the "face of America". They're private corporations acting in their best interest and reputation, which rarely has anything to do with what is right.

Statistically, only 11% of Americans consider themselves to have progressive values and in this case, only a handful of individuals were "offended" by this cosplay. So it's less a matter of social standards and more a matter of a vocal minority making a big enough stink to get their way. Which is usually the case when it comes to this shit.

It is also a waste of time trying to be politically correct on social media. What one considers "offensive" changes literally day by day and usually correlates less with genuine offensive and more with power. ie people dreaming up ways to get others to do things through shame and fake outrage.

In the meantime, it would be appreciated if you stop pretending progressivism is the "face of America." Most Americans would rather you just shut the fuck up.

>>10152460
>Social media platforms are not the "face of America".
Why are you pretending to be retarded? Nobody said they were, just that those faces will obviously control certain platforms.
I'm not going to bother reading the rest of your post. If you can misinterpret a simple metaphorical statement like "There's obviously more than one face to America, and clearly, the face that you seem to dislike is the one in charge of important, large platforms like Twitch" and twist it into "Social networks are the face of America", you can turn blue into red and make the sun rise in the west as long as it fits your argument.
I wish anons would seek an education instead of just complaining all day.

>>10152466
>Nobody said they were
>"the face that you seem to dislike is the one in charge of important, large platforms like Twitch."

>I'm not going to reply to the rest of your post because I can't. I mean...I didn't read it. Yeah.

>>10152470
How does
>"the face that you seem to dislike is the one in charge of important, large platforms like Twitch."
translate to
>"Social media platforms are the face of America"
exactly?
And no, I actually didn't read the rest of your post, which is how I responded so quickly. I'm sure the arguments therein are just as poor. It's crazy how happy you are to twist words, try to insist you've done no such thing, and twist words again in memetext.

sure is cosplay in here

>>10152460
>What one considers "offensive" changes literally day by day and usually correlates less with genuine offensive and more with power

Blackface been offensive for decades

>>10152473
You literally just described social media companies like twitch as the face of America. You just said it in different words.

>I DIDN'T READ YOUR ARGUMENT LALA I'M NOT LISTENING LALA
Why are you even here if you're unable to form an argument? Shitposting is a waste of time. Go back to twitter and yell about how paint is racist.

>>10152480
Good thing this isn't blackface then.

>>10152481
Nope, I said
>"the face that you seem to dislike is the one in charge of important, large platforms like Twitch."
I don't know why you can't read, or what alternate reality you must be living in to think that literally, unequivocally reads "Social media platforms are the face of America", but you need to wake up.
You're trying to change words into whatever you want them to mean instead of what they actually mean, and that's not only intellectually dishonest, it's near-delusional.
As soon as you can come to your senses, more people will give your attempts at debate the time of day.

>>10152482
it is blackface

Lifeline’s design is pretty distinct enough to be recognized without the dark skin

>>10149852
>>10149864
Using makeup to add blushes, hide moles, zits, etc. is okay.
Using makeup to change your skin color is also okay when only fictional characters have it (Mystique from x-men, Interstella 5555 etc)
Using makeup to change your skin color to something real people have is not okay.

My best guess as to why, is that races are different, and any acknowledgement of this makes stupid people uncomfortable.

>>10152480
*centuries

>>10152395
Guess what buddy, shaming people who do dumb shit publicly gets them to confirm. That's how society works. You sound like you're so eager to defend this blackface cosplay. Go ahead and do it yourself then. Paint your face black to look black as a black character and go to a convention, on my word someone would knock you out and if not, many people will avoid you, yell at you, swear at you, etc. You sound unironically autistic. As if you have no concept of social reinforcement. You're right in a way. That girl has the right to cosplay however she wants to. And everybody else will react accordingly. How did they react? She got banned.
Upon looking up pics of blackface I found this Asian nigga and I find it funny af. I'm completely ok with it. And I wondered why for a moment. After about half a second I realized it was probably because their ancestors didn't enslave mine.

Man this entire thread has been retarded and unimportant. And I feel ashamed for adding to this useless dialogue. Fuckinn, dont paint yourself black if you're white and it's not a part of any tradition. Robert Downy Jr. Was the last exception thats just about it.

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>>10149890
Nigger

>>10149864
It's really only horribly racist in America with all their overhype sensitivies.

Lithuania didn't have slaves in the 1800s.

They stopped that fucky shit in 1588 you gross Americucks. 300 years of peaceful non identity politics (used to distract your US masses from a gross war machine and corporate hierarchy eating away at your lives in Modern Day slavery) will let you use all the colors in the spectrum as makeup you dipshits.

>>10151363
Get in the robot NIGGER

people just want another reason to be offended or to get attention to themselves. do whatever you want

she is just a white person cosplaying a really tan asian

Serious question here. What if a country never even used blacks for slaves? And will never go to America anyway. Is it still racist? What if the person doing that is also not American and just genuinely thinks black skin is beautiful, tans herself and use dark make up, isnt that a change in standards and actually conplimenting the skin color?
And if it is still racist, as a foreigner, it is confusing because a lot of black people love and hype up ariana when she's obviously a blackface. But black people themselves defend her? So it's not blackface when a person's pretty?

When someone uses a fucking foundation color for a fictional character and the cosplayer initially isnt even American, doesnt have history of black slavery and actually likes a very tanned complexion (because of the sun, shows youre well traveled and looks healthy), he or she will have a growing resentment towards black people if they started calling her racist.

Careless accusations will only breed more racism in places it was initially absent

>>10150081
Oh fuck off it you social justice cunt, makeup is makeup, if she were doing big pink lips and shit it could be seen at this way but redefining makeup as "offensive" is retarded. This is the pinnacle of first world problems made "relevant" by hypocritical cunts like yourself. Fuck off.

>>10150248
Thank you for your common sense anon

>darken your skin
>"wow you racist that's blackface"
>don't darken your skin
>"wow you racist that's whitewashing"

>>10157330
Literally how I'm feeling about the whole thing rn and I'm seeing the same effect on my friends, too. It makes me cringe cause I don't want it to turn into a hate situation, but I can't help feeling resentful, either.