/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10046722
>>10046722
I am very tired and not thinking properly, but I had a recent discussion that is sort of relevant to how the japanese do not necessarily distinguish lolita from ouji. I love and hate ouji with equal intensity, and this annoyance has plagued me for several ages, and I have grown old with the deep existential sorrow in my heart of not knowing exactly what to tag my photos as besides "not-kodona".

When a lolita brand makes tshirts, sweaters and pajamas, it is sort of accepted that these are novelties, not to be worn with lolita, but to show your support of the brand or something in normie wear. This seems silly to me, when the brand is clearly making more clothes to be worn with their other clothes. Meta makes a pair of pink shorts, you wear them with a blouse, socks and shoes all from Meta. Meta is a lolita brand, and everything you are wearing constitutes a lolita coordinate except for the pants. This does not suddenly make it a different genre altogether, it is lolita. If you posted it to CoF however, the community would be at odds arguing over why it was not lolita, that it was ouji, or that it was neither.

This is sort of why I feel like ouji should stay on the masculine end of the spectrum, because it's mostly just lolita with pants and I think lolita with pants should just be lolita. By heading back into the cutesy prince end of the spectrum, the more similar it is to frilly lolita, the less of an individual identity it has, it becomes less its own thing. That might be exactly where it needs to go, and should have been all this time to begin with, and maybe the masculine/mature look can live on as aristocrat or something. The dozen active ouji in the world should make a vote. Personally, the less interchangeable lolita and ouji clothing is, to me, the better.