/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10813360
>would you be interested in femme aristo with skirts and dresses or only more masc
I feel like I look like a dude in a drag whenever I wear skirts due to my broad shoulders so I gave up on those years ago and go for a more androgynous style now. I'd be willing to entertain the idea of skirts if they were long and fairly simple skirts that can be styled in a more "manly" fashion like the model on the left in this famous picture (or if they were worn over pants or a "butt-cape"). So if you've got something like that then I'm interested

>>10668646
Yes
>>10668643
For real though, Elegant Gothic Aristocrat. It's much more flattering on extremely tall people and men
>pic related

>>10662523
Am I the only one that thinks that the headscarf could absolutely work and actually look extremely sleek and elegant with a more modest (like no corset, heels, or fetish elements and not too over the top) aristo coord like the one on the left?

>>10047065 (You)
That being said, I do understand the frustration that comes comes with your preferred style falling out of favor and not getting many new releases. I like the more masculine stuff too. But unfortunately narrowing the definition of ouji to be just that and nothing else won't change that. All we can really do for now is scour second hand sales for pieces we like, share photos of our coords/support others with similar sensibilities and hope our style catches on, and of course throw money at brands on the occasion they do release stuff we like. Trends come and go, and if we're lucky, it'll come back around eventually.

>>10046731
>>10046756
>not sure if aristo is an ouji substyle
>the masculine/mature look can live on as aristocrat

In Japan, aristocrat is definitely not a substyle of ouji. I kind of think of it as a cousin to the sibling relationship that ouji and lolita have. There are similarities/overlap, but not quite much. The styling is a lot more gothic, it generally has a pretty flowy look, makeup is dark around the eyes to contrast with the rest of the face, and visual kei hair is pretty common. I feel like I'm not doing the best job of describing it, but if you just look at a picture of Mana and compare it to any ouji, the differences should become apparent. Since they are so distinct in styling under this definition, it would be a little odd to transfer more mature variations of ouji to be under this label.

In the west, aristocrat is what you call your ouji coord when you're worried about being perceived as cute or girl-y, so I guess if we stick with this definition, it could work.

>people are mixing things like rolands with shorts and OTKs
Just out of curiosity, do you think Rolands should never be worn with short pants and OTKs? Or did you just mean shorts of a certain length?