/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Anyone ever bought from Atelier Boz directly? I'm trying to order a rolland jacket right now, but I don't see a credit card payment option... They don't have it, do they?

>>10046756
While I sympathize with you, and generally prefer the more masculine side of ouji myself, I don't really understand or agree with your desire to create such a dramatic distinction between ouji and lolita. From the very beginning, ouji was always the "boystyle" version of lolita. They're like sibling fashions, so I think it's reasonable that there would be some overlap or gray area between the two. If we were to eliminate all of the "lolita" elements and pieces from the definition of what is considered ouji, I think we'd be left with a very limited and rigid style, with a tiny number of brands rarely producing pieces, which would be nearly indistinguishable from western historical fashion. Maybe that's not exactly what you're suggesting, in which case I apologize for misrepresenting your argument, but to me the variety of styles and mix of masculine and feminine elements in ouji is a positive thing. It gives us flexibility and more pieces to work with, and it's not like you have to wear the more feminine or sweet elements if you don't want to.

Despite the stricter "rules" laid out for lolita (mostly in the west), there's still a good amount of variety within the style. For example, a cute OTT sweet coord will look quite different from a mature gothic coord (which could even feature the "traditionally masculine" Roland mentioned in >>10046385). I think what you're proposing would be similar to lolitas saying that only the most OTT sweet coordinates should truly be considered lolita, because all other styles are not frilly and feminine enough. It really cuts down on what you can do within the style.

anyone got links for something like the jacket in this pic?