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This thread is intended for game devs who want a clean atmosphere where accountability is upheld through IDs, who are open to the idea of or planning on making a profit with their games, and who want to discuss game development seriously with other serious minded game developers.

This thread is also for those who aspire to be game devs or have questions, desire input, or just want to see what it's all about.

Welcome all game devs, welcome all interested in game dev. This place is reserved for us.

>> No.947552

Game development is for faggots and SJWs.

What the fuck is paying for an unfinished game aka early release or beta then PAYING for dlc?

what a shitty jewish industry by SJWs, for SJWs

>> No.947553

ITT videogame addiction denial

>> No.947572

>>947553
>ITT videogame addiction denial

this

VIDEOGAYMES ARE FOR MANCHILD

>> No.947589

>Anonymous imageboard
>atmosphere where accountability is upheld through IDs
Okay?

>> No.947601

Gamedevs have been whispering about moving here lately, so it's time to make the effort and actually do it. There's going to be a lot of hissy fits incoming from parasites but that'll be over with soon enough.

>> No.947620

>>947601
Where's your game anon(YLUgMywR) ?

>> No.947630

Im interested from a bussiness side of things. What platforms are most profitable for indie/small dev team games? (Play,applestore,free-ads,steam,etc)

>> No.947633

>>947630
none
also this thread was made by /x/ autist who enjoys shitting up threads in /vg/

>> No.947636

> This thread is also for those who aspire to be game devs or have questions, desire input, or just want to see what it's all about.

So this is an amateur game dev general? I thought we had one of those already?

>> No.947638

>>947630
95% of indie games operate at a loss. Don't fall for the joke and just go into finance software or something instead. A little more boring but way more $$$$

>> No.947641

>>947601
go kill yourself, mothdan

>> No.947645

>>947572
Actually videogames is the ultimate ez money scheme
>Make shitty game
>Release and call it artsy
>make it SJW or anti-SJW, get, for FREE advertisement
>People buy it because so deeps down with de patriarchay/So edgy lmao fuck le SJW iamright guys?

Add some kickstarter in there and you just need good artsy style.

>> No.947649

>>947638
Have you seen 95% of indie games?

https://itch.io/jam/agdg-halloween-gamejam
Half of these games made in a week are better

>> No.947650

>>947601
YLUgMywR, are you mothdan?

>> No.947651

>>947645
except the thousands of games that did that and failed mr businessman

>> No.947655

>>947636
This is not an amateur game development thread, it's for professionals or those interested in it as a profession instead of a hobby. Did you read the name of the thread?

>> No.947657

Okay, I was going to placate this for the sake of entertainment but for the sake of you /biz/zers I'm going to break character.
We have a guy in /agdg/ who shitposts and he created this because he's mad about not being respected enough or whatever. I sincerely apologize for him being a little shit, I'd personally suggest ignoring the thread and watching as his ID just fills the place up.

>> No.947658

>>947630
Depends entirely on the type of game and accessability of the platform.

For actual games (that means not mobile), Steam is by far the most stable and widely used, but you'll need to get through their Greenlight system, and put up with them taking 30% of the pie. It also has a refund system now, which was in part a response to the overwhelming mass of shitty indiegames that have been infesting Steam for the last couple of years.

Getting your game in a store doesn't equal money though, even if users vote it through the greenlight process.

In general, it seems like indie games make no money, or all the money; the latter being a rare product of dumb luck and viral attention.

>> No.947659

>>947651
They fucked one of the steps.

>> No.947663

>>947657
>We have a guy in /agdg/ who shitposts
Stop right there. All e-celeb gossip from your homeboard will be reported. This is a place for professionals.
You get one first impression per thread in /biz/ and this was yours.

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>>947663
what an unbelievable shitstain

>> No.947669

>>947663
>All e-celeb gossip from your homeboard will be reported
Good

>> No.947671

>>947658
This is a quality post and why we came here. Well said, anon.

>> No.947673

>>947663
lmao danny kill yourself

>> No.947677

nice progress pgdg
not one god damned post about videogames

i'm leaving

>> No.947683

We have enough of "professional" development
We have enough shitposting about money or businessplans
We have enough of this uptight community
We have enough of the lack of progress.

Lets all move to the new board, >>>/vg/121153260

that place is reserved for us.

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947697

http://itch.io/jam/agdg-halloween-gamejam edition

Helpful Links: http://alloyed.github.io/agdg-links/
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
Archive: https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/subject/agdg/

>Chats
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vgamedevcrew
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=vidyadev

>Demo Jams
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-5
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-4
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-3
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-2
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day

>Jams
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-jam-november-2015
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-halloween-gamejam
https://itch.io/jam/wj2015

Engines
>Gamemaker: http://docs.yoyogames.com/source/dadiospice/000_using%20gamemaker/index.html
>Godot: http://github.com/okamstudio/godot/wiki
>Haxeflixel: http://haxeflixel.com/documentation/tutorials/
>UE4: http://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?483-Community-Tutorials-for-UE4
>Unity: http://unity3d.com/learn/tutorials

Models/art/textures/sprites
>http://opengameart.org/
>http://www.blender-models.com/
>http://www.mayang.com/textures/

Free audio
>https://machinimasound.com/
>http://freesound.org/browse/
>http://incompetech.com/music/

>> No.947699

Reminder that I came up with the idea of this thread as an insult to people who are obsessed with serious discussions or jewery, like MothDan, who has now decided to actually go through with it.

In other words, kill yourself.

>> No.947713

If you came here to shitpost, remember that you have an ID on /biz/ and it will get you nowhere, so make your first shitpost count and know that you blew your wad on it.
If you came here to post as an adult about gamedev as a profession, remember to report shitposts.

>> No.947716

>>947659
Videogames is one of the hardest professions to make it in. It's up there with novel writing and starting a band.

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>>947663
Wasn't it you who would always go on about things being archived forever?

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>>947821

>> No.947844
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>>947572

more people over the age of 50 play vidya than people under the age of 18.

>>947630

a combination of most.

most of the money is in online shit that caters to the 25+ crowd.

the beauty is that there are frameworks to port games between IOS, android, windows & web. I personally don't think there is a lot of money to be made through steam, unless you already have a captive audience or successfully finance yourself via crowdfunding.

caveat: I am not an expert in this shit. I specialize in B2B "games".

>-----------------------------

source: ESRB

>> No.947845

>>947821
See
>>947663
>All e-celeb gossip from your homeboard will be reported.
Nobody is concerned with memes from our homeboard.

>>947831
See
>>947553
With IDs you are exposing yourself as being a lurker and a shitposter. Why not join or start a conversation on gamedev instead?

>> No.947851

>>947844
See
>>947671
>This is a quality post and why we came here. Well said, anon.
Good post.
As this thread continues to persevere, the wheat will continue to be separated from the chaff. That's the beauty of /biz/ and ID enabled boards.

>> No.947856

>>947831
it really just got worse from there, you shoulda SEEN the meltdowns over the past months man, he even had one in /qa/
>>>/qa/306755

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>>947856
That thread explains a lot, but it still has no relevance to /biz/.
Is pic related why you're doing this? This person you lot are attempting to stalk here seems to have gotten the best of you, but please understand no amount of shitposting on /biz/ can undo drama that occurred in the past, and it won't make your memes any less obscure. So why are you posting? We aren't concerned with your e-celebs or homeboard drama. It's a major factor of why gamedevs will be coming here and leaving your troll lair.
This is your last reply from me, personally. Remember, circlejerking with IDs is counterproductive.

>> No.947874

>>947845
>>947851
>>947868
holy shit you are autistic i can see why people from your home board hate you

>> No.947875

>>947868
>That thread explains a lot, but it still has no relevance to /biz/.
Neither does this thread, to be quite honest. Where is your game (that you are selling for money)?

>> No.947880

>>947874
And who am I? Is this all an elaborate attempt on your part to advertise for mothdan? None of your behavior makes sense unless you either had your jimmies rustled by him or you're trying to give him free attention. If you're going to advertise here there are better ways to do it, mothdan.

>> No.947897

>>947874
One last thing, I thought "mothdan" was from /x/? Wouldn't that be his homeboard? Or have you not all agreed on proper backstory for your e-celeb yet? And how is he hated on your homeboard when there are polls like this? >>947868
By simply glancing through that /qa/ thread you can see evidence that this "mothdan" person has somehow triggered a small contingent of shitposters from your homeboard, possibly even sending some of you into mental breakdowns. If so, he is now reaping free advertising from it, to the point that you are mentioning him all over 4chan. Do you enjoy doing this? We don't do things like that on /biz/ so it's hard to understand what's going on here.
You see this mythical figure everywhere and feel the need to say his name so much. I'm sure he appreciates it, either way, but you're mistaken if you think this is the place to bring your butthurt drama.

>> No.947903

>>947897
You do realize the guy you're responding to there is from /biz/ and knows nothing of your drama, right?
Of course you don't, you're obsessed with the stuff you swear this thread wouldn't have like drama and attention whoring
just quite while you're behind and try to actually make progress on a video game, christ

>> No.947909

>>947903
Reminder that you have an ID and we can see your previous posts ITT.
Like this one
>>947650
This is Sam Hyde level hysteria, I've never seen so many people insist that every post belongs to some e-celeb of their own making. That /qa/ thread is full of the type of behavior you're now bringing here to /biz/. I'm glad I saw it so I at least know these mothdan stalkers are legitimately insane and not just trying to troll us.

>> No.947913

>>947909
I'm definitely from /vg/. I don't deny that.
>>947874 is not, but you treated him like he was because you are obsessed with drama.
Just chill. All you're doing here is making yourself look worse, there's nothing positive coming from this thread other than pissing off a board full of people who obsess over which form of economics is most accurate.
Just, again, quit while you're behind. This is a trash thread, you're the only one taking it seriously and you're not even posting progress or discussing anything, just fighting people calling you a faggot.

>> No.947918

>>947913
You came into this thread obsessing over "mothdan" from your very first post and haven't stopped. Now you want to cast shame on someone else, that's understandable. But you are rightly ashamed, and yes, we know you're from /vg/, you didn't need to state that.

>> No.947919

>>947918
Here's the thing, I'm not ashamed. I actually don't know mothdan in any way shape or form and don't care about him, all I know is that you have been shitposting on /vg/ heavily and then later in the /qa/ thread and you act like it's different people because you're too retarded to actually change your typing patterns. And now with IDs, look at this, it's only you who gives a shit about all this.
Please stop saying we, there's nobody on your side. Nobody cares about you, nobody is fighting for you. Do something productive with your time.

>> No.947921

>>947903

Wow this guy is over the top. Reminds me of /biz/'s Chip Heater Strangler

>all those people
>covered in nacho cheese

RIP

>> No.947924

>>947921
Yeah, he's silly as fuck. Sorry that we're infesting your board with this shit, he did the same to /qa/ earlier because /vg/ started ignoring him and biting the bait less.

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>>947880
>>947897
>>947909
>>947918
>instead of ignoring accusations of being someone like a normal person, he proceeds to have another 'tism fit in an unrelated board and subsequent meltdown in /vg/ over a namefag who doesn't even go there anymore

Ho
Ly
Smokes

You're still a consistently shitty poster with a consistent style of shitting. Stop doing it. Even if you just happen to have the same concerns as MothDan, they're still concerns that no one but you gives a fuck about (or, I guess, you and MothDan) and have nothing to do with game dev. At all.

I'm shocked you haven't started going on about "sourcefam" and "reek" and "rotate" yet.

Honestly, in this big quest of yours to make a "Shitpost-free AGDG", you've probably driven away more devs and would-be devs than anyone else with your weird psychotic ramblings.

And you still haven't even posted your game itt.

>> No.947929

>>947919
>Here's the thing, I'm not ashamed.
Yes you are.
>I actually don't know mothdan in any way shape or form and don't care about him
Then what are these posts about?
>>947650
>>947657
>you act like it's different people because you're too retarded to actually change your typing patterns
Are you aware of how insane this sounds?
>it's only you who gives a shit about all this
Then what are these posts about?
>>947650
>>947657
You seem to give a very large shit about all of this and yet it has nothing to do with /biz/ or gamedev.
I think you need me to stop posting now for your own sake, you seem to be one of those people. Good luck with that mental health, friend.

>> No.947931

>>947928
You are another person who has based every one of his posts ITT on "mothdan". Is it safe to say your homeboard belongs to mothdan now? It really seems that way.

>> No.947934

>>947931
>>947929
Post your game, man.

Or is it that stupid buttons le cat "paranormal" thing mashed together out of Unity tutorials that would reveal your identity?

>> No.947935

>>947929
>Then what are these posts about?
Again, I don't care about mothdan. I came back to /vg/ after a year and people were calling you (this anonymous shitposter I have grown to dislike) mothdan so I assumed that's your name. Would you like another name, anonymous shitposter? Because I'll call you anything you'd like, I just want to make it clear I dislike you, personally.
>it's only you who gives a shit about all this
What I meant by this is you're the only one taking this thread seriously. Everyone else either sees it as a desperate attempt at attention like I do or /biz/ people just being confused by all this shit. Please, just stop already.

>> No.947936

>some guy thinks making a thread on /biz/ = less shitposting
>most posts in here are about mothdan or /agdg/ drama

>> No.947941

>>947936
keep in mind that this is the thread he's pitching a fit about:
>>>/vg/121153260

>> No.947946

>>947935
>>947934
>>947931
>>947941


please leave biz, or at least stop posting.

if you ever post here again, think: "is my post biz related?" before solving the captchan and hitting "post".

either get serious fast, or go back to your board. please.

also know, that the best way to stop trolls and gripers is to simply not quote or respond to them after their first post. I know shitposting is fun, but please don't do it here, especially not to that extent. also, don't link to other shitposts or other irrelevant information. this isn't tumblr.

make a thread in /b/ where you can invite all your friends and shitpost there.

I'm gonna thank you in advance and assume you're all decent beings.

and please don't respond to this post either, because there is nothing constructive you can say.

>> No.947952

>>947946
This is my thread, I'll defend it however I want.
>and please don't respond to this post either, because there is nothing constructive you can say.
You can leave.

>> No.947955

Silly OP. This board is for the following only:
>Frogposting
>Pumping and dumping coins and penny stocks
>Pretending you are making lodsamoneh day trading
>Comparing the size of your financial accounts
>Asking if you can live off of <$5000 into investments (answer: no)
>Asking whether a program you just bought into is a MLM scam (answer: yes)
>Asking if Kiyosaki a shit (answer: yes)
>Sound retirement planning and general saving advice
>Pushing communism because you believe it's the only solution for the world
>Pushing communism to troll people
>Arguing with communists

>> No.947957

>>947952
Realize I was trying to help you.

I hope you get permabanned. don't respond. I won't read it.

>> No.947960

>>947957
>I was trying to help you
By standing on a soapbox in my thread? Stay out.

>> No.947964

>>947960
>in my thread
This is going to be my last post here, apologies to /biz/, but I feel like this right here should make it more than clear what this guy is.
Good thread though

>>947955
>>Pushing communism because you believe it's the only solution for the world
>>Pushing communism to troll people
>>Arguing with communists
holy shit I should come to this board more often, that sounds fun

>> No.947965

Don't forget
>>947946
>>947957
>all lower case in some posts, using capitalization in the others
This is why we came here.
You're clearly not used to posting on boards with IDs and are now easier to identify for what you are.

>> No.947966

>>947952
>>947960
Danny, what were you trying to accomplish with this thread, exactly?

That guy was trying to help you and tell shitposters to fuck off, and you still attack him. What are you even trying to do anymore?

>>947964
>holy shit I should come to this board more often, that sounds fun
iawtp
please tell me more about TFSAs and why I am using mine wrong

>> No.947968

>>947965
>thinking it's about capitalization
danny, we can so easily identify you because you always post about the same shit. Just like /vg/ where if someone shitposts about trains being autistic and audiences being the problem and not himself, you can be reasonably certain it's the same guy who's been mad about gmod trains in every other thread, regardless of the case he's using when typing.

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Dear Daniel,

I'm interested in contributing to your project, as am I hoping you will be interested in contributing to my project, one involving various human simulations. I think we're both very like-minded individuals.

Sincerely,
Gary

>> No.948090

>>947630
Android/iOS are great if you have a big budget, not because it costs to get it developed but you need marketing money since "mobile gamers" have no taste. Web is probably the most reliable since its easy to get people to play it, just have to figure out a good monetization model. PC/steam is great if your game is actually good + there's space for it in the market.