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trying out internet bs to make money. made some shirts on teespring, haven't sold any yet. did Amazon mturk for a while, but I got paid very little money. made a steemit account... 1 cent paid so far for lengthy article I wrote. trying to set up amazon affiliate blog... no buys yet.

I just wanna make like $200 a week. then I can quit this awful job that I have and possibly work up from there. how can I do this?

>> No.6872431

>>6872335
Internet work is not very profitable anymore, only thing that might pay fair would be an online shop over amazon , but you'd need some funds. It's more profitable if you just quit and work as cashier at some mall or another wagecuck job.

>> No.6872591

Beg in biz like the rest of the white males

>> No.6872635

>>6872335

You'd literally be better off working an Amazon warehouse, I make $800 a week if I do overtime days.

>> No.6872771

>>6872335
Swing trade VEN. Any gormless jeb pulled off the street could probably master it in half an hour

>> No.6872781

>>6872431
am I basically doomed to work shit jobs like this if I don't have a degree? am 24 with no degree

>> No.6872859

>>6872781
probably if you dont get a on job training, Id recommend you to do a shitjob then save a bit and do some further education so you can do a better job

>> No.6872885

poor guy

>> No.6872913

>>6872781
Degrees are memes. Find a low paying job that can teach you good skills and go from there. Try and take advantage of any relationships you may have to find something. I was in your shoes a few years ago.

>> No.6872938

>>6872335
If you're cute white boy or white or E Asian chick you can live cam. No need to porn yourself but there are people that'd pay to watch others.

>> No.6873050

>>6872913
what kind of low paying job?

currently work at shitty retail store and only work one day a week. they don't have much hours to give ATM and I wanted the time off to study shit I've been studying.

>> No.6873065

>>6872335
Try rev.

>> No.6873153

genuinely just download grindr and if you live in a relatively large city (500k+) you can make a couple hundred a day sending nudes to older guys.

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6873268

Quit my job with this wordpress/woocommerce business I started

It's not a lot of money but it's nice not to wageslave. Plus, there's far more upside potential than wage slaving and you get to do what you want rather than what you are told to do

I would recommend

>> No.6873390

>>6873268
HOW.

PLEASE teach me. what the fuck do i do. I would be overjoyed to even get $1000 a month. fuck.

>> No.6873607

Honestly dude your best option is to deal drugs. I'll tell you what works for me.

Do you smoke weed or have access to a gram of wax? This is what I do. I buy a solution online that turns the wax into an oil that you vape. I bulk buy cartridges and put the oil in them and sell them. 1 gram of wax makes me 6 cartridges that I sell to white college kids for $25 a pop. I'm making good money off this that I put into crypto.

>> No.6873618

>>6873390
Find a niche
Create wordpress website
Install woocommerce
Install Yoast SEO
Create content (blog posts) around google searches related to your niche. There are tools for this but I tend to just go with my intuition. I have a feel for the Google algorithm but the most reliable way to rank well on Google is to produce content that is legitimately better than the competition (read: longer, more detailed, more pictures, better written, just generally more comprehensive)
Do this for a month or two and you'll start seeing traffic to your site.
When you are getting a good amount of traffic (what counts as good depends on your niche) look to develop products around your niche
When I say develop, it can be simple import stuff from Alibaba or just private labelling or something
Sell product on your website, create adverts for your product within your website. Keep A/B testing stuff to increase traffic and conversion

It boils down to 3 things:
-Traffic (i.e. # of visitors)
-Conversion rate (i.e. % of visitors who buy)
-Average order value ($)

Just keep tweaking things to increase any of these three variables

>> No.6873676

>>6873618
how do i find a niche?

i made an affiliate site a little while back. just a blog post linking to high quality art instructional books on amazon.

https://qualityartbooks.wordpress.com/

should i be writing more blog posts on here? how can i monetize/sell products more... drop ship art supplies or something?

>> No.6873692

>>6872431
If you have skills and a decent resume, it's actually an amazing time for online work.

>> No.6873711

>>6873390
>>6873618 contd.
An example (similar to my niche but not the same):
You suffered from acne as a teenager and spent hours researching online how to get rid of it
You realise you have all this knowledge related to acne
You make your website a centralized resource for all the information you spent hours collecting from other sources. You create content for common questions you had like 'does eating sugar cause acne?'
Products are easy to create around this niche: you can private label supplements, skincare products, etc.

I remember posting similar advice ages ago on /biz/ (before crypto became really big on here) and some guy who replied was interested in making his own maps or something. Basically, it was some really niche hobby that he knew a lot about - perfect for building a little business/website around

Don't go for stuff that's too competitive. Like, my acne example: if you want to get into the health space acne is much less competitive than, say, bodybuilding or weight loss.

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6873712

>>6872335
I've spent way too much time writing code to give this trading bot away for free. You will make minimum 10% daily for one month, or your money back. Only 10 downloads available on here before my website goes live next week and prices increase 10x

www.satoshibox.com/8c26m4x4vhfxaiwmv2cwxefa

>> No.6873826

>>6873676
OK this is a good example of a niche, but you are making some obvious mistakes:
- use your own hosting. It needs to be qualityartbooks.com, not .wordpress.com
- Your content isn't tailored to a specific phrase someone might search. No one is searching 'Recommended Books That Can Help You Become a Better Artist' but they might search 'best books to become a better artist' or something similar. Without knowledge of this niche, it's hard to say. But try to get into the mind of the customer and create content around the kind of stuff they are searching. Use the phrase in the title, URL, image tags (if relevant), and get it into the main body of text if it isn't too awkward (don't spam)
- You need more content
- You need better design for your website. You don't have to pay, just get a better wordpress theme. If you're autistic and not artistic it might be hard for you to create an aesthetic website. even if you know HTML/CSS etc

>> No.6873876

>>6872335
Go read blackheadworld forum for a few weeks

Just read everything on there and you will soon have an idea how to make money online.

>> No.6873888

>>6873826
alright. can i get by with just blog posts and affiliate links, or should i be selling products too?

any advice/links to videos on how to get product in? i could sell pencils/sketchbooks/art supplies etc. but i would basically be buying cheap shit and reselling it right?

>> No.6873893

>>6873712
>tries to advertise scammy bot
>Uses an image that implies said scammy bot hogs all processing power from a 6 processor system

>> No.6873979

>>6873888
Checked

Depends. I sell my own products because I figure that way I get all the profit. But affiliate could work, or you could try a combination of both.

As for which products, you don't just have to sell art books. You could sell art supplies (paintbrushes, etc.) because people who are interested in art books will almost certainly be interested in art supplies.

Another really important thing I've found about having your own site is that price doesn't matter that much. I have some products on my site that I literally buy from Amazon at full retail price and mark up $10 and sell via my own site. Some people just buy from the first place they see something rather than shop around.

>but i would basically be buying cheap shit and reselling it right?
yes

>> No.6874016

>>6872335
Get AdWords Certified (takes a week max if not brainlet) and get AdWords work outsourced to you for min. 45$ / h. easy.

>> No.6874036

>>6873979
how can i be sure when the right time to sell products would be? i dont want to buy products and then have no one buy them

>> No.6874117

>>6874016
Are you?
What's the work about? Writing shilling articles?

>> No.6874138

>>6873692
What skills do you have in mind?

>> No.6874150

>>6874036
>i dont want to buy products and then have no one buy them
I remember thinking a similar thing back when I first started getting decent traffic. I was so scared to spend even $100 on stock for fear I couldn't sell it. As time goes on your risk tolerance increases and you'll realise $100 is nothing and worth spending for the lessons you'll learn alone. I'm sure you can get some stock for under $500. Do your research and then just take the plunge. As long as the products don't go off over time (like food) it doesn't really matter how long they're hanging around for as long as you sell.

That said, don't go mad and spend $10,000 on stock right away. Start small, keep testing and improving, and grow gradually.

Looking back, I realise this is the lowest risk business imaginable. Your overheads are basically $0 (just web hosting) and if you do organic SEO you don't have to risk any money on advertising.

Like I said, just do it OP. Spend a few $ on web hosting and a few $ on absolute bare minimum stock (you could buy one or two things from Amazon at retail just as a test to see if they sell. Better yet, list the product before you've even bought it and then just refund if anyone does buy as a test). The lessons you'll learn alone will be worth the money you invest

>> No.6874205

Wallet staking.

>> No.6874272

>>6874150
alright. thank you so much for all the tips man. desperate to actually make alright money for once in my life

would selling art supplies be niche enough? i wanted my site to cater towards people who are more serious about art and drawing, as opposed to every kid and pre-teen who wants to learn to draw

>> No.6874354

>>6872335
>tee spring shirts
Post them

>> No.6874372

>>6874354
https://twitter.com/buyandhodlbro

really lame cryptocurrency themed shirts lol

i posted this here the other day actually. just made a few so far to see if anyone would buy

>> No.6874454

>>6874272
>would selling art supplies be niche enough?
I guess it's not really the niche itself but the topics you write about that have to be niche (to get picked up in Google)

For example, I bet there is no content for the search 'how to paint a dog in cubism style' (but no one is probably searching it either so there's no point creating it). The trick is to identify LONG TAIL searches that have no content specifically catered to it (or very poor content that you can improve). There's no point making content around 'how to paint with watercolours' because it's too general and there will be too much competition.

I don't know much about art but hopefully you can see what I'm trying to explain with these examples. Like, I am in the health space (very competitive) but I'm not creating content trying to rank for 'vitamin C supplement' because that is too broad/too competitive

If you know about art it shouldn't be hard to find topics you can rank for

I am happy to help. I remember browsing /biz/ for ages as a wageslave hoping to escape. I can relate and I want everyone on here to escape as well if that's what they want

>> No.6874497

>>6872335
internet is approaching more and more real life as technology advances. so, how to make money online is similar to how to make money in real life.

>> No.6874511

>>6874272
Anon, read blackhatworld.com
treasure trove of this kind of info. I build amazon affiliate sites/SEO

>> No.6874519

>>6874454
>>6874272
Also, I wouldn't worry too much about products just yet. Your first steps should be:
- get your own hosting (< $100 a year)
- get your website looking nice
- create some content
- get some traffic

When you are getting, say, 200 visitors a day then start thinking about products. If it doesn't work out you can always monetise with adverts

>> No.6874559

>>6874372
>https://twitter.com/buyandhodlbro
Ok textile business expert here. You wann know why nobody bought these shirts?

>> No.6874672

>>6874519
Not OP but you've really inspired me to do this with a couple of niches I know a lot about.
Thank you anon.

>> No.6874909

ma dudes, this is such a coincidence because I just started an online business. The website was released yesterday and I'm looking at ways to advertise it through Instagram and Facebook ads. any tips for an online "dog related" apparel? Ex-wage cuck here

>> No.6875089

>>6874559
yes please. rip me apart and help me sell senpai

>> No.6875671

>>6874519
thank you based anon. do you have a link to your website that I can see as an example, or do you not want to link for privacy?

>> No.6875794

>>6873711
I work for electric car company, and I got a VERY good product that could save them A LOT of money. What do I do? It won't be revolutionary but it's something that's not very out there from what I've seen. Help please.

>> No.6875840

I'm making passive income from forex and I have 10K VEN to get me to a million by EOY.

>> No.6876155

>>6874672
This makes me happy. We are all going to make it

>>6875671
I'd rather not. But I am tempted to revive a website/project I started a while back explaining this stuff - basically how to make being NEET profitable. I will post it on here if I go ahead with it because I love this board and 100% relate to wanting to escape wage slavery

>>6875794
I don't know much about developing products, I only know about online marketing, sorry. I guess the only advice I can give is to patent your idea as soon as possible then go to your company and sell them it

>> No.6876191

Try merch by amazon

>> No.6876235

>>6873268
What do you sell?

>> No.6876237

>>6876155
PLEASE post on how to make being a NEET profitable. holy hell I would read the shit out of that

not making money is absolute misery

>> No.6876381

> buy crackcocaine
> cut it
> ???
> profit