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6024461 No.6024461 [Reply] [Original]

ZCL will be worth $1500 before fork

BTCP will orbit at around $2500 once introduced on Bithumb, perhaps more.

The traction this project has is absolutely insane.This is the rise of something big.

I have been telling you about this project since 20k sats ($2.9). Some of you might have made it by listening to me. To those I say: get the fuck back in, this shit is going further that I could anticipate.

Later, if you want to thank me: just remember to be kind to one another.

>> No.6024507

quit posting shit outside the chat

>> No.6024518

>>6024461
It's mooning now but if we don't get some news on the fork soon it's gonna dump. And I'm not talking about the 'unofficial wallet release date' we need something more tangible

>> No.6024539

>>6024461
Alright pajeet, shit or get off the street.

>> No.6024573

>>6024461
holding mate, not letting go until $1500-$2000. this coin is about to go parabolic

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>>6024461
>ZCL will be worth $1500 before fork
>BTCP will orbit at around $2500

>> No.6024599

Shut the fuck up I need the price to drop a bit so I can accumulate

>> No.6024628

>>6024461
I feel so shitty for selling half of my zcl for $210 this morning

>> No.6024682

money for jam

>> No.6025176

>>6024593
crypto is hype. it never pays to be smug here.

>> No.6025243
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6025243

Cloud mining on bitcoin.com is scam 749$ for 1 Th/s, https://hashflare.io/r/994B5BC2-322 - 220$ for 1 Th/s, if you realy want good profit (300%+) click to my ref and i take you 8% back! he is paying over 3 years

>> No.6025511

>>6024461
this shit is why I love biz, legit 100x and climbing

>> No.6025553

>>6024628
What a moron. This is probably the best fork so far. It shits all over BCH.

>> No.6025560

Should I sell my alt bags for this? Selling at less gains than a few days ago so it sucks.

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6025660

I went in hard at 35$ without even knowing about the fork

What a time to be alive jesus fuck

>> No.6025899

>>6024461
I'm mining like a motherfucker here to supplement all the ZCL my poorfag ass could afford. Damn I hope this is worth it.

>> No.6026148

>>6025660
dude. it's a double reverse fork.

this is going to go PARABOLIC!

>> No.6026303

Will someone explain to me what the fuck y'all are talking about in this thread? I don't follow all the bitcoin fork shit.

>> No.6026346

Guys anyone got an error with the zclassic wallet? (unexpected error when updating gui wallet state, please ensure zcash daemon running, for input string 0.49)

Any alternative wallet to get muh btcp if I can't get it to work? Not sure cryptopia will work for the drop.

>> No.6026361

>>6024461
/biz/ has some of the best shills ever holy shit

>> No.6026385

>>6025560
My predicment as well, what bags are you holding anon?

>> No.6026449

>>6026385
xlm
I say go all in, still gained a lot.

>> No.6026539

Oh man got in at $80. Thank you to whoever has been shilling, I've also taken up some activity myself. This shit is going parabolic and will be insane. I'm holding the whole way up, my first certified moon mission.

>> No.6026628

Im all in since few days ago

>> No.6026668

>>6026361
Are you saying that because of my threads? Because honestly that makes me happy to think some /biz/raelis are making it because of the analysis/research I posted a while back.

I made it a while ago when I was working on an ecommerce website using Bitcoin in late 2010. But, I think I might have found my calling beyond engineering and infosec. I might go for it and setup a proper structure that does brokerage and research It is mad fun doing that seriously.

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>>6026148

The fuck i know what that means but i bought this shit at 35$ even before it was mainstream because it had low marketcap, i said meh i want to bet 5k and see what happens

Next days there was hype everywhere, jesus fuck

>> No.6026758

>>6025176
this lol. "smart" fags were too "smart" to mine dogecoins. thats fine I mined it for them.

>> No.6026975

GET IN NOW ANON, SELLWALL-WHALE GOT SCARED, PULLED THE WALL. WE'RE GOING TO JUPITER

>> No.6027189

>>6026668
I'm legit making it because of you. Thanks anon

>> No.6027266

I remember the zclassic post a week ago stood out among all of biz. Everything else was amateur shit. I looked at this knowing it was big time, life changing shit. I think you pro shiller.

>> No.6027300

You will fucking save my life if this goes to at least $400, OP.

>> No.6027352

>>6026668
Link something if you want to start, I'll follow/join! -- I got into ZCL a couple days ago seeing it here but just wish I got in earlier!

>> No.6027401

>>6024461

you're deluded

1 shitcoin + 1 forked shitcoin = 2 shitcoins

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6027433

I'm about to go all in with 950$.........
plz tell me it's still worth it

>> No.6027761

>>6027433
Honestly me too my funds just cleared up. Realistically how much would it go up from here

>> No.6028041

hold zcl through the fork or sell right before?

>> No.6028213

>>6026303
Fuck off and dyor

>> No.6028380

>>6026726
you lucky son of a gun
enjoy your lambos

>> No.6028488

>>6028041
ZCL is acting as a futures market for BTCP (Bitcoin Private).

Hold through the fork. I would advise against selling all your stack right after the fork for the following reasons:

- Some major exchanges (Bitfinex, Bithumb, Bitstamp) will announce listing when their users' demand becomes unbearable. Keep in mind that BTC holders will also get credited with BTCP. But they will do it after the fork.

- BTCP is a risk-free hedge on Privacy for large Bitcoin holders. Yes, there are existing projects in this space but when your worth is in the 100s, 1000s, or 10000s of Bitcoins even if you were dead certain, you could not move your capital at a reasonable pace without leveling markets on your way. That's a good deal for whales. They won't dump it massively.

- Rhett is actively trying to integrate the best of both worlds: get commercial support for BTCP (OpenBazaar integration, e-commerce websites, the whole P2P cash idea that BCH is trying to revive) without neglecting privacy (get the strong privacy primitives that NIZKPs offer). Beyond being a cool strategy on paper, that means that as soon as momentum increases (even more than now) we should get frequent announcements of new businesses using BTCP. A coin that has an utility is important and creates some nice price action.

and many more reasons that are a bit too long to list here. In short, I think you should take some profits just to cover the cost of your investment. This project could be long-term hold worthy. It is too early to say for sure but the massive community drive it has received and the leadership of the project certainly make me bullish.

If this happens, with the current situation on Korean markets (increased KYC controls, capital control laws etc.) this could become the biggest Bitcoin fork in history.

>> No.6028502

>>6028041
I've sold. I prefer secure 2x gains. If Bittrex announces that they don't support the fork, BTCP won't be on any exchanges and ZCL would drop back to $2. I won't put all my money on a 50/50 when Bittrex has had trouble dealing with the current traffic, so why would they list another one right now.

>> No.6028597

>>6028502
Bittrex will support the fork, that we already know pretty much.

The only unknown is whether they will credit their users with BTCP if they hold BTC or ZCL.

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6028645

can you guys dump a bit so I can get in please?

>> No.6028662

>>6028597
>Bittrex will support the fork, that we already know pretty much.

No, we don't. ZCL wallet being up for maintenance doesn't confirm anything. Which has nothing to do with BTCP either way, since it'd be its own coin.

Not trying to FUD. But keep a VERY close fucking eye on Bittrex's twitter. Because if they confirm that BTCP will not be listed on Bittrex, ZCL is worthless.

>> No.6028698

>>6028502
>>6028597
isnt binance going to support btc to btcp?

even if bittrex doesnt support this, you can still sell your btcp on binance, just move your zcl out into a desktop wallet.

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>>6027266
>>6027189
>>6026726
>>6026628
>>6026361
>>6027352
>those feels
:')

>> No.6028736

>>6028698
>isnt binance going to support btc to btcp?

No. No exchange has confirmed anything yet. Which is why I took my safe gains.

I really do hope it hits $1k so all of you make it. But it's an all-or-nothing gamble right now.

>> No.6028776

Hush has a fork .

>> No.6028804

>>6028736
crypto was always an all or nothing gamble to me in the first place

>> No.6028806

>>6028708
I saw your post, are you the one with 10btc in ZCL? I let the fucking fudders get into me.
Congratz to anyone listened to you.

Anyway, If you want to start anything please let biz know so I can join. You can put some kind of title so we know is you.

>> No.6028851

>>6028662

The wallet is back on and the maintenance was unrelated to the fork whatsoever. They just needed to patch Intel vulnerable instances.

And we do know they will support it, let me explain:

Even in the unlikely scenario where Bittrex decides against listing BTCP, then Rhett will just ask them to convert the existing ZCL market to BTCP. That's all.

There is no "worst case" scenario in which BTCP is not listed everywhere.

The optimistic and most likely scenario is that Bittrex see in ZCL/BTC and BTCP/BTC promising markets in which they can make a shit ton of money (keep in mind exchanges make their profit on volume).

>> No.6028859

>>6028804
Then good luck, buddy. Set an alarm for whenever Bittrex tweets. Make sure you're the first out the door if they say that they don't support the fork, which means BTCP will not be listed.

Or just set a stop-loss a bit down.

>> No.6028861

HUSH is doing fork into Bitcoin Private! OP - FUD!!!!

>> No.6029118

>>6028806
Yes! It's not too late in my opinion. Read my other posts and think about it.

Sounds good, tripfagging for future reference.

>> No.6029235

You guys are brutal. Truly a zero sum game.

>> No.6029237

If you Did not make it withz classic get in on hush!!!!!

>> No.6029249

>>6029118
I bought in because of you, Ernest. I'm a poor as shit student who started out with just a couple hundred bucks in November. Now I'm up to over 2000 bucks. Holding 8½ ZCLs since 3 days ago. This could make me more in just a couple weeks than my entire scholarship pays in two years. Eternally grateful <3

>> No.6029276

>>6028861
>>6029237
Where did you guys read this?

>> No.6029309

HOW DO I REGISTER ON BITTREX REEEEE

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>>6029249

>Vox clamantis in deserto

I'm genuinely happy for you anon. You did your part, you listened!

Strap yourself in, fasten your helmet, we will explore other worlds.

>> No.6029466

>>6029118
Thank you Ernest!

>> No.6029477

>>6024461
When is the fork happening?

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6029681

I'm too rich right now bros. I'm going to burn half my coins right now.

>> No.6029701

>>6029681
do it ill buy it off you if you're on bittrex

>> No.6029827

>>6029681
how many you got

>> No.6029883

Any info about snapshot date?

>> No.6029936

>>6028662

What a load of shit.

I think BTCP will be listed on Bittrex, but even if it isn't, it's retarded to say that ZCL will become worthless.

Everyone can still move their ZCL to their own wallet to receive their BTCP. And I don't know if you've noticed, but Binance is now the number 1 exchange by volume. Bittrex has dropped to third. BTCP doesn't need Bittrex to massively grow in value because it has such solid fundamentals.

Saying ZCL would become worthless though is just dumb and makes no sense at all.

>> No.6029939

>>6029883
Not yet. We'll probably know tomorrow after wallet release. Which is also when the real pump will start, so if you have any more to spend now and you're willing to risk it, do it.

>> No.6030463

I sold all my fucking ZCL when it was $4.. I hope this shitcoin dies.

>> No.6030486

>>6030463
no need to be salty anon

>> No.6030524

Someone give me a reason not to go all in on this

>> No.6030564

>>6030463
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
denial,
anger,
>you are here
bargaining,
depression
and acceptance

>> No.6030566

>>6030524
I would think of a reason but I'm too busy selling everything and converting it to ZCL.

>> No.6030606

>>6024461
I'm trying to sell 20-30 ZCL chucks to get it from breaking this upper channel but you fucks keep buying!

REEEEEEE

>> No.6030684

>>6030606
It's working...thank god

>> No.6030685

>>6030566
I want your balls

>> No.6030690

>>6030463
Why don't you buy back in and at least get a 5x?

>> No.6030739

>>6029276
It's on their github and announcement page.

Look at the price. It's acting like zclassic did when fork was announced.

Buy hush and tip me later.

Gonna hit 300 easy

>> No.6030742

>whales cant even keep this coin down anymore from the sheer volume of FOMO and HYPE

>> No.6030758

>>6030685
What can I say, OP convinced me. I took a look at a bunch of different things (websites, twitter accounts and whatnot) and I think Bitcoin Private sounds really promising. The only way to get it appears to be by holding ZCL so that's what I'm doing.

>> No.6030791

>>6030742
15k ZCL

I did my job, rising wedge time.

Buy back in at .101

I fucking hate you all

>> No.6030798

I have over 1k zcl. Feels fucking great but also getting pretty nervous and not sure how to approach the upcoming weeks. Hold all the way til the snapshot and take a huge risk or wait til it pumps more and sell?

>> No.6030800

>>6030742

the coin is beyond whales now, literally too big to fail

>> No.6030846

If you fags don't get into this next fork With HUSH than stay poor.

>> No.6030866

>>6030798
I think I’ll be leaving 25% for the fork and the rest take profits.

I bought at $100, I don’t think ZCL can dump as low as that post-fork

>> No.6030934

>>6030791
I'll put it this way guys

I have 14724 ZCL

I plan to only own 1000 BTCP

I will place bids two hours from the fork and market sell around 5k ZCL

Put your bids low before the fork. I hope it helps you out

>> No.6030949

>>6030934
FUD, give us proof, or stfu.

>> No.6030963

>>6030463
Sorry that you are one of them, move on quick, don't be emotional about this. Regrets breeds more mistakes.

>>6030758
God speed anon.

>>6030798
See: >>6028488

>> No.6030998

Super-whale here. $50M capital, $20M in crypto. I'm going to eat that small whale up.

>> No.6031018 [DELETED] 

>>6030846

All ready in brah~

>> No.6031035

>>6030963
Emotional about what? I bought 10 ZCL when it was trading for $4,

You have presented 0 proof of your 14k ZCL, no one is gonna listen to you.

>> No.6031049

>>6031018
Prepare for take off

>> No.6031058

>>6030998
Drag this fucking price down just a little, I need more

>> No.6031079

>>6030934
Any reason you only want 1000BTCP, is it just to reduce your exposition?

I'll be happy to take your risk anon. I wrote why I think post-fork is underrated (see >>6028488).

It's nice of you coming here. I'll make sure to pad that order book :)

>>6031035
Replying to the wrong person?

>> No.6031107

>>6031079
Sorry, I meant to reply to >>6030963

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>>6030949

>> No.6031277

>>6031079
BTCP will consolidate and I will judge entries there.

>> No.6031294

>>6031190
can you put up a sellwall at 0.01897 just to proof it?

>> No.6031309

>>6031190
Jesus. Don't dump before letting us know anon

>> No.6031320

>>6031294
That'd be better proof desu.

>> No.6031337

so the best move is to just hold and sell after the fork?


when do u guys think it's going to happen?

>> No.6031360

>>6031337
late january guessing

>> No.6031363

>>6031277
Fair enough. That makes sense when you have holdings that can move markets. I'm just more bullish than you.

I wish we could do an OTC trade.

>>6031309
His sell-off will be absorbed by the demand in the run-up to the fork. The order book will get a lot thicker between now and HF.

>> No.6031421

>>6030791
>Buy back in at .101
.101 what? btc?

>> No.6031442

>>6031049
can i get a quick shill on hush?

>> No.6031444

>>6031309
I’m on my knees to get him to dump. I need to grab some more, this is an easy 5-6x from here.

I’m just amazed at how he hasn’t sold his 38 btc stack for some more

>> No.6031727

>>6031421
.0101

haven't slept all night keeping this price down so it doesn't go retarded and fuck over everyone.

>> No.6031780

>>6031727
you think it's gonna dip down to .0101

>> No.6031810

>>6031780
he gonna dump 2hours before fork
i doubt it will drop that far desu

>> No.6031838

>>6031780
At this point there's no sellers so I'm losing hope.

>> No.6031888

>>6031838
stop...
whyre you trying to surpass it further?
everyone here with half a brain is "in"

>> No.6031955

>>6031888
There's no market maker working this.

You want there to be some kind of TA or chart formation or you're going to get a 150% green dildo and ti'll ruin everything.

>> No.6031997

>>6031838
Why do you want it to drop so low? Buy more? Fuck bro don't kill my dreams

>> No.6032031

>>6031955
Explain please.

>> No.6032058

>>6031997
I've been doing this a long time. It's not killing shit.

The chart up until tonight (it breaking the upper channel) looked great.

Now is not the time for fomo brother, that comes later.

>> No.6032137

>>6032058
Care to share your strategy here? Are you trying to keep growth slow and not let it blow up too quick? Sorry poorfag here so I'm just curious

>> No.6032283

>>6032137
Nice pops like we've had are nice. Rise, then calmly consolidating, transferring coins from weak hands to strong hands then rise again.

It allows new people to get in and take longs if there is strong reasoned support. (Risk vs Reward)

Huge pumps and dumps is just gambling and we don't want that

>> No.6032380

>>6032283

How confident are you on Bittrex support of BTCP?

>> No.6032384

>>6032283
So you want to consolidate the price to .0101? If this is no larp, what will the floor be set at with the next pump?

>> No.6032411

>>6032283
Ah makes sense. Thanks anon. I have a lot to learn.

>> No.6032573

>>6032380
Confident

>>6032384
Would be nice for it to come back into the channel. Just a dip then range from .011 to .014 before next leg up.

>> No.6032610

bring it back up i wasnt done selling aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>> No.6032631

>>6032573
sold 30 ZCL at $238ish, have another 30 im going to hold onto until the fork.

Thanks anon

>> No.6032638

i really dont understand ppl sometimes, who the fuck has an undercutting war for 100 k sats

>> No.6032651

>>6032573
Any prediction for price before the fork?

>> No.6032661

>>6032638
People with a lot more money than most of us

>> No.6032737

>>6032651
Unknowable

No fud then maybe 1 more leg up before pumping.

It could always get delayed.

>> No.6032810

>>6032737
Is there a lot to gain for the people (like me) that bought at $220+?

>> No.6032859

>>6032573
Just give me one last chance at making it anon. Holding 50 ZCL and 2 BTC on standby. LET ME IN PLEASE

>> No.6032868

>>6032810
I would say so

>> No.6032885

Where can I get ZCL?

>> No.6032916

>>6032885
Cryptopia

>> No.6032955

>>6032916

>Due to the extremely high number of registrations that

reeee

>> No.6032970

Well it was nice. I'm 40 minutes late on my morning market scan.

Just trade this on TA and chart formation, you'll do just fine.

Whale bro out

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6033026

How the fuck do I buy this coin?
Every exchange listed on MarketCap is either closed off for new registrations or their signup page is broken.
What's even more JUSTing is I actually have a Cryptopia account but I'm waiting on them to reset my shitty fake """"2FA"""" PIN.
Am I going to miss this mission?

>> No.6033047

>>6032970
Thanks anon. You should make an AMA thread soon to share some more insight for us poorfags

>> No.6033110

>>6033026
Oh great, my ID is literally poo
Please help a street shitter out

>> No.6033143

>>6032970
This >>6033047

But thanks heaps mate

>> No.6033228

>>6032638
I fought hard and bled some BTC to create a channel round at around 70k.

Markets are like pressure cookers, you need some degree of orchestration that is proportional to how much risk-ready or unsophisticated its agents are.

>>6032970
Cya mate. Nice having you around.

>> No.6033257

im putting everything in at .0101
i hope that guy was for real

>> No.6033286

who else here gone all in at 600k sats ?

>> No.6033354

sold my entire sack its going back down to $170 at least
>buy rumor sell the news
Buying back in after wallet release tho once it consolidates

>> No.6033395

>>6033026
>po0/G4EN

Sorry about that ID anon, holy wojak.

>Am I going to miss this mission?

The more it goes, the more I think we all, including myself, underestimate where we are going.

>> No.6033403

>>6033110
Shit out of luck man, all exchanges are shutting registrations down which is suppressing the total market cap a lot too.

>> No.6033410

>>6033354

Wont that defeat the point of recieving the BTCP?

>> No.6033412

>>6033354
What news? there hasn't been any news

>> No.6033458

>>6033412
>january 8th wallet relase
>it will pump a little bit before wallet release but after wallet releases it will dump hard until fork announcement

>> No.6033483

>>6033410
BTCP fork isn't with the wallet release silly.

>> No.6033535

>>6033458
Bad FUD pajeet

>> No.6033569

Guys, what happens if the fork is delayed ?

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>>6033535

>> No.6033625

>>6033458
I wouldn't call that news, anon. If anything there will be less sell pressure on exchanges.

>> No.6033906

>>6033458
>sell the news
You sold before the news

>> No.6033925

Brainlet here. What's the course of action that you're gonna take? So we buy ZCL, that it's expected to pump right before the fork? And then sell right after or hold if you see BTCP going far? Please help.

>> No.6034065

>>6033906
yes and I made 5 grand, ill buy back in later, right now its not a good buy unless you want to hold for a few weeks

>> No.6034136

>>6033925
Bitcoin private has potential to take Bitcoin cash in market cap, privacy coins are very popular right now (monero).

Buy now, ride the pump till 1k-1.5k, sell if you'd like to assure your profits or if you feel risky ride the fork and hold BTCP for a month or two. ZCL will dump to sub $200 post-fork.

There's no such thing as losing money in a bull market, it's just losing the potential to make money.

>> No.6034319

>>6033925
I'm bullish on BTCP so i'll be holding ZCL through the fork.
Up to you anon, either way we're both going to walk away with gains.