/XMR/ Monero General

[Anonymous No.52632163]

Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

[Anonymous No.52632180]

Everything that Isn't PoW is a scam.
Everything that Isn't ASIC resistant is a scam.
Everything that has a "Dev tax" is a scam.

[Anonymous No.52632181]

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>52588273

[Anonymous No.52632187]

START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png


>YOU CAN USE P2POOL-COMPATIBLE REMOTE NODES IF YOU DO NOT HAVE YOUR OWN LOCAL COPY OF THE BLOCKCHAIN
https://xmrvsbeast.com/p2pool/monero_nodes.html


OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

[Anonymous No.52632194]

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

[Anonymous No.52632199]

>>52632163
>Monero-chan
how can she be so perfect bros?

[Anonymous No.52632203]

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (currently US only)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market #
>Cloud Market #
>Dark Matter #
>Darkmoon #
>FilthyFellas
>Mellow Market #
>Retro Market #
Onion links: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/fs7ax


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Kilos
>Majestic Bank
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/8cunb


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

[Anonymous No.52632206]

>>52632199

[Anonymous No.52632209]

>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

[Anonymous No.52632217]

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

[Anonymous No.52632575]

Bump for seraphis
https://piped.video/watch?v=a71M_xjJ-1E&t=73

[Anonymous No.52632748]

>>52632163
Pls buy disjeet sir

-t. John Rajeesh Subramanium

[Anonymous No.52632841]

>>52632748
But muh smart contracts! Muh "decentralized" ICO proof of stake scheme! Muh innovation!

[Anonymous No.52632920]

My analysis of Discreet
>>52632892

[Anonymous No.52633205]

>>52632920
I still don't get the point of smart contracts.
The shills always scream how it's the best thing ever, yet nothing useful exists that use it.
It's only to get "investors" on board.

[Anonymous No.52633525]

>>52633205
Nothing basically. If you find the thread pic related from, that anon goes on to further explain that they're useless as the thing they're trying to do: you'd be better off just buying some space on AWS and running your code on their cloud.

That being said, the only good argument that i've seen for smart contracts is to issue securities.

https://archived.moe/biz/thread/51041973/#q51054908

>captcha ytyvw
>white wife x2

[Anonymous No.52633540]

Continuing our little I2P torrent discussion, I just realized I can easily cross seed clearnet torrents, keeping the same hash, by simply symlinking the data and copy pasting the torrent.

Let's test:
Heroes of Might and Magic III (Complete Edition) + Patch [GOG]
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:dd48177a84474dd869212d9e8934cc894ecb3a4b

I think right now it's without trackers, and I would like to test if it finds peers with just DHT. If not, I'll add in the open trackers no problem. C'mon I want to see peers!

[Anonymous No.52633548]

Who won the lottery? I did!

[Anonymous No.52633621]

>>52632920
So, if i actually care about my privacy, then i shouldn't bother with it? Good to know. Hopefully, we get less shilling, and more people comparing it to Ztrash, but with a bunch of mishmash tech. I'm starting to get annoyed with all of the undeleted advertising being plastered in these threads.
Get to it, jannies!

[Anonymous No.52633760]

>>52633540

Are there any recommended i2p email services?

[/ck/anon !vdLxbLpyQE No.52634043]

>>52629220
Hey anon, I’m the $155off card anon. If you’re still here, I’d love to sell it off for $30 for a /biz/ special. Again, it only applies only to former members of the platform wishing to return for a autosub. It’s spread across 5 boxes (5 weeks), so the $125 will be $25 off each week for those 5 weeks. If you’re still here, let me know and I’ll post my email so we can take it there. I’ll send you the special link and you send me half the amount, and then I send you the code and you send me the rest of the amount.

[Anonymous No.52634514]

>>52633760
There is the one that comes out of the box. I haven't tested it.
Email in general is not recommended by me. The servers are going to see everything you have so you need to use GPG. The problem is other people aren't going to bother using GPG.
I'm thinking of a cryptography based email alternative where your identity is like a wallet address and you don't have to trust the server or even have to stick with a specific one.

>>52633540
Yay! It's sneeding!

[Anonymous No.52634700]

Reporting in,
fuck Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.52634756]

If I buy Monero today what will the price likely be in 4 years?
If I buy Bitcoin today what will the price likely be in 4 years?

[Anonymous No.52634821]

>>52632920
Horrendous analysis

[Anonymous No.52634842]

Is the mining info on OP still current? just want to mine with my desktop, nothing crazy. 5800x3d + 3070ti.

[Anonymous No.52634907]

If I was considering building my own gaming desktop and wanted to also mine monero with it, what would be the best graphics card to buy? How much would I need to sink into a good cooling system? Any other technical concerns? Wouldn’t want to fry my fancy new computer

[Anonymous No.52634914]

>>52634842
Hey wow similar questions. Maybe this time of year a lot of people are looking to upgrade

[Anonymous No.52634961]

>>52634842
>>52634907
https://xmrig.com/benchmark
This website has the highest hash rates from different CPUs. Keep in mind that realistically you will not be able to reach these bench marks because they take a lot of fine tuning.
Monero uses random x which is for cpu mining. If you have a GPU you can use a pool like Monero ocean and mine with a gpu and then autoswap into XMR. Im not sure if this is still that profitable but this is something you can look I to.
If you are buying brand new hardware, do not expect to make that much profit. Monero is not profitable to mine (at least currently...) and you will be losing value in the short term. If you already have a built system though you can get comfy passive income and use your miner as a heating source in your room.

[Anonymous No.52635119]

>>52632920
If you want a private smart contact solution as DEX, the only one that comes to mind is SCRT. Its within the consmos system, has a monero bridge to wrap XMR, so you can buy and lend XMR, and has a unique tocenomic approach to privacy in that its smart contracts are private by default, while its native transacting token is not by default. Its kind of fake privacy and POS, but as FAR as private smart contracts go. This is teh best solution atm imho.

>>52633525
this. remember this thread

[Anonymous No.52635143]

>>52634961
Thanks for the reply. This is what I was looking for.

[Anonymous No.52635166]

You are mining on p2pool right anon?

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.52635241]

Reporting in
##################################
IRC- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/tzm4s
Aliases- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bjbx3
Extras- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/daxte
Nodes- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/ke2k8
Mining- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/c7na4

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.52635995]

[Anonymous No.52636501]

How do I buy monero without KYC services? Local monero has gay reputation system

[Anonymous No.52636531]

>>52636501
Localmonero and crypto atms near you.
coinatmradar.com

[Anonymous No.52636537]

>>52636501
crypto ATMs

[Anonymous No.52636738]

JStark the man who FGC-9 (Fuck fun control) 3D gun, was reported in by his bank, raided and died 2 days later. This is why financial privacy is fundamental

[Anonymous No.52636753]

>>52636738

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.52637200]

Take advantage of holiday sales to obtain hardware for dedicated nodes and miners for 20-50% cheaper than they could be obtained any other time of year.

[Hodlin' Caulfield No.52637487]

[Anonymous No.52637664]

https://monero.win is back

Win Monero by guessing the last digit of the next Monero block hash

[Anonymous No.52638085]

>>52637200
post links sister or don't post at all

[Anonymous No.52638608]

>>52637200
You can run a node on a 10yo laptop with no issues, mining on the other hand is whole >>52636753
different ball game

[Anonymous No.52638715]

>>52637664
>Win Monero by guessing the last digit of the next Monero block hash
It it safe or sus? It looks sus

[Anonymous No.52638831]

Here to shill MyNero again.

First mobile Monero wallet with coin control/UTXO management, with I2P support.

Download directly over Tor, I2P, F-Droid, or via an I2P torrent.

There's also a mirror of some 3d printable firearms. Torrent the FGC-9 and others over I2P.

http://mynero.i2p
https://mynero.net

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.52639049]

>>52638715
i just lost 25$ to this after 3 failed 50/50s and it won't let me double my bet to 0.22 :|
im never gambling again.

[Anonymous No.52639377]

>>52633548
Based.

[Anonymous No.52639404]

redpill me on nicholas van saberhagen

[Anonymous No.52639407]

>>52634756
>Price
Fuck off and buy your shitcoins ok?

[Anonymous No.52639418]

>>52634700
Fuck all mass surveillance tokens.

[Anonymous No.52639467]

>>52636753
>Two days after the raid, he was found dead in his car in front of his parents' home in Hannover
>Coroners did not determine a cause of death, but they ruled out foul play.
I don't know who this was but seems pretty suspicious that he dies shortly after a police raid.

[Anonymous No.52639876]

>>52639404
Saberhagen = Sabelnikov

[Anonymous No.52639891]

>>52639467
That's JStark, creator of the FGC-9 3d printed firearm.

He was murdered by German police.

[Anonymous No.52640074]

>>52639467
Not only that. He was 28 and it was deemed a heart attack.

[Anonymous No.52640975]

[Anonymous No.52641122]

>>52640975
this is a good one

[Anonymous No.52641185]

>>52639467
cool it with the antisemitism

[Anonymous No.52641518]

Bitcoin > Monero

1. CoinJoin and Lightning give sufficient privacy for all intents and purposes.

2. Bitcoin’s inception was fairer than Monero’s. Almost a third of Monero’s supply was mined within the first year. This L-shape of the supply curve is similar to a lot of scam tokens. I’m not saying Monero is a scam by all means, but Monero’s beginning greatly benefited whoever was in the know. It’s exactly what Charlie Lee did by bringing Litecoin. Too late to mine Bitcoin? No problem, gonna copy the base protocol and tweak some parameters while I tell my family and friends to get ready to mine at time=0. Then he proceeded (along with his buddies) to dump the top in 2017. I feel that this is precisely why Monero was brought to existence. People were late to mine Bitcoin or wanted to make an extra buck, so they capitalized on some texts that Satoshi wrote on bitcointalk to design Monero. In any case, Monero doesn’t innovate that much over Bitcoin.

3. Monero can’t scale. It will need to implement Lightning channels too. If block size increases to accommodate significant adoption, then no one will be able to run a node.

[Anonymous No.52641618]

>>52635241
based

[Anonymous No.52641723]

I installed a new distro and i'm too lazy to setup p2pool mining. should i just solo mine wownero?

solo mining monero is cool but realistically no payouts

[Anonymous No.52641740]

>>52639049
bets are limited to 0.2xmr since the site recently got transfered to a new owner and server. It will soon be 1xmr once its verified that everything works as intended.

>>52638715
site has been operating since 2018 and all bets can be verified with a block explorer. it doesn't get much more fair than this.


btw guys id like to add new games to the site that use the same block hash system so it can be 100% verified. Any ideas? Im currently designing a roulette but it wouldn't be an exact copy of the american or european roulette as I can't think of a way to represent 37-38 positions using the block hash and keeping it simple. Might offer a bounty for good game ideas.

[Anonymous No.52642037]

>>52641518
>1. CoinJoin and Lightning give sufficient privacy for all intents and purposes.

lol somebody inform the darknet, they seem to have gotten the wrong idea.

[Anonymous No.52642255]

Could a kind anon explain to me why AnonDev used testnet in his XMRMemes git repo? I've never used the testnet for anything and don't know if I'm missing something or if he left it in by mistake from his testing phase.

https://repo.getmonero.org/AnonDev/xmrmemes in the "Running Monero Daemon" section.

[Anonymous No.52642462]

>>5264203
you keep posting the same picture from reddit. go to exploit.in and tell me what payments are possible. go awn

spoiler: btc

[Anonymous No.52642554]

>>52639467
there is nothing to see here
stop trying to find things that are not there

[Anonymous No.52642575]

>>52641518
>CoinJoin and Lightning give sufficient privacy for all intents and purposes.

CoinJoin and Lightning give you sufficient privacy against anyone casually browsing block explorers. Not against anyone who actually wants to deanonymize you (anyone with chain analysis tools). Your half assed privacy solutions are not needed. There is no excuse for bitcoin being less fungible than the stinky US dollar.

[Anonymous No.52642635]

>>52642462
>you keep posting the same picture from reddit.
Doesn't know what Dread is.
>exploit.in
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.52643523]

>>52642462

Niggawut

[Anonyɱous No.52643644]

>>52639404
>nicholas van saberhagen
Handsome man. Good with the ladies. Known to keep secrets well.

[Anonymous No.52645066]

please give me some white pills
i can't handle my untreated self-diagnosed depression anymore

[Anonymous No.52645644]

>>52645066

Have you considered getting high?

[Anonymous No.52645711]

>>52641518
>1. CoinJoin and Lightning give sufficient privacy for all intents and purposes.
kek, enjoy your censored operators and chainanalysis
>Bitcoin’s inception was fairer than Monero’s.
1 million + BTC is held by some British dude. Also not to mention that the miners back then straight up dumped the tokens due to the race to ASICs that we underwent several times.
>It’s exactly what Charlie Lee did by bringing Litecoin
Monero is built on the Bytecoin family, no relationship with Bitcoin's codebase whatsoever. It literally uses a different EC.
>In any case, Monero doesn’t innovate that much over Bitcoin.
ringCT, MLSAG, CLSAG, Seraphis, smooth emission curve, ASIC resistance, better scripting, no likability of transactions, better consensus, less hard-coded constants, better scaling, an actually designed fee market, Bulletproofs, Dandelion++. And I could go on for quite a while. But it's quite clear that you don't have that much technical knowledge about cryptocurrencies, or technical knowledge in general.
>Monero can’t scale.
LN is a disaster, and better L2s are available for Monero, it's just that everyone is waiting for Seraphis to actually start implementing them.

[Anonymous No.52645889]

>>52641723
Be on the lookout for https://gupax.io
It soon will be a single-button-click solution to mining on p2pool.

[Anonymous No.52646613]

Can a monero shill explain how xmr mining can ever be profitable on itself?
Whenever I play with the thought of building dedicated xmr rig it always comes down to it only being an extra while running the rig for storage or server purposes or now dead gpu mining, allocating some resources to xmr mining, which on itself isnt really profitable

[Anonymous No.52646665]

>>52646613
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[Anonymous No.52646738]

>>52646613
Since the cost to entry is 0 (everyone has some CPU) then buying a machine just to mine won't make financial sense.
It's based on some economic theory or something.
Earning few cent more than the electricity should be good enough.
Whether it's currently true with electricity prices skyrocketing and bearmarket happening(also xmr being historically poor price performer) is another story.

[Anonymous No.52646760]

>>52641518
>I feel that this is precisely why Monero was brought to existence. People were late to mine Bitcoin or wanted to make an extra buck, so they capitalized on some texts that Satoshi wrote on bitcointalk to design Monero. In any case, Monero doesn’t innovate that much over Bitcoin.
if that's the case, why didn't bitcoin itself yet implement Monero's tech from Satoshi's own forum texts?

[Anonymous No.52646775]

Can someone explain the "monero can't scale" and the possible workaround of it? Thanks

[Anonymous No.52646851]

>>52641518
Real big brain stuff there buddy.
Tough to argue against this powerful arguments.
I guess it's over. Bitcoin won.

[Anonymous No.52646895]

>>52646775
>Can someone explain the "monero can't scale"
In 2017 there was a war in Bitcoin between "big blockers" and "small blockers" over raising the 1 MB blocksize cap or not. The small blockers won and now have to push a narrative where reality doesn't exist and ignore that storage costs go down while SSD write speeds and bandwidth continually goes up.

The external world improving is the actual scaling solution, but beyond that Monero has improved a lot in getting bytes/tx down a lot. And things like Seraphis should improve it even more. Now to be clear, we're still lightyears away for ANY coin doing anything remotely to the level of Visa or Mastercard, but it's not unreasonable that within a decade you could 10x the capacity for retail PCs to be able to realistically run their own node (regardless of coin). And that's not counting technological improvements on the coin's side.

[Anonymous No.52647175]

>>52646613
If mining doesn't bring any profit at all it means your electricity cost is high ($/kWh) or your CPU is old (Hash/W). Simple as that really. After much calculation you will realize Monero pretty much costs as much as it costs to mine and vice versa, because you can eliminate entry cost and consider everyone's equipment as already bought for the sake of simplifying the math. Coin price is same for everyone, CPU price is largely same for everyone, your only variable of profitability becomes relative cost of electricity, and I guess how much of a gamer you are to already have a good CPU.
>it always comes down to it only being an extra while running the rig for storage or server purposes
Which is completely fine or good even? What's the problem? The miners being bunch of nerds who host nodes along with their other self hosted servers is exactly how we want it I would assume.

[Anonymous No.52648052]

>>52632575
they went out of their way to give Monero-chan Asian eyes lmaoooooo

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.52648115]

>>52638608
I know you can, I run my node on a Toshiba Satellite lel, but now with the SSD I just purchased for rock bottom prices I can run monerod on one of my mining rigs and use that laptop for something better tailored for it.

>>52638085
newegg and amazon, sweetie.

[Anonymous No.52648227]

>>52646775
This is gonna sound like a cop-out, but Monero isn't DESIGNED to scale. Hear me out.

Scaling is what you need to do when you need to serve the broad market all the time, and the only real way to do that is build a conventional payment processor. If I need to have my transaction cleared NOW, I need a company to run a giant server farm with people on call and I need them to issue me a card and keep the merchant's equipment up to date and handle international money transfers and deal with wire transfer laws for me and I need their software to confirm my payment in 2 seconds, which needs devs and equipment, etc. That's a hard job. You pay for that job with, among other things, your privacy. You cannot have global-scale instant transactions without centralized entities.

>inb4 proof of stake
Proof of stake works by having people set up centralized payment processors and agreeing to use ETH as a technical standard for interoperability; it's essentially a community-hosted SWIFT system. Very cool? Yes. Good for privacy? Absolutely not.

Monero is NOT designed for this. In a tradeoff between privacy and efficiency, Monero will pick privacy. That means you need large-scale distribution. That means no server farms. No on-call engineers. The entire network has to be host-able by nerds running spare PC's in their basements and the code is maintained by a bunch of anons on the darknet. This is not a network that will ever have the throughput of Visa and everyone knows it. But that doesn't matter because the global "illegal things" market is ALWAYS going to be smaller than the "legal things" market, and that's what Monero is for.

Monero needs to just scale ENOUGH that my transfer clears in around a minute 99.999% of the time and lets me try again no-foul in the rare case it fails. It needs to be reliable enough for political dissidents, drug dealers, hackers, terrorists, whistleblowers, and the like. And THAT'S more than feasible; we're already doing it.

[Anonymous No.52648348]

>>52641518
>Monero doesn’t innovate that much over Bitcoin
This would be true if Bitcoin wasn't mismanaged by a corrupt oligopoly of hardware owners who have deliberately mismanaged the software so badly that it barely works without what are essentially third party shivs at this point and any attempt at fixing this problem wasn't parlayed into an internecine fork-o-rama by a bunch of degenerate shitcoin gamblers who wanted to keep the system fragmented.

Nothing is technically stopping Bitcoin from implementing all of Monero's features. The only obstacle is institutional shareholders in the network that would rather Bitcoin be speculative than useful. This is why the closest you've gotten is Lightning (basically a gift to miners) and Taproot (a good idea that was ultimately implemented as "someone please build plugins for bitcoin pretty please look it's kinda like an API")

[Anonymous No.52648362]

when’re we getting rich lads?

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.52648549]

>>52646613
Basically, 2022's premium consumer parts setup is 2025's upper mid range consumer parts setup. If everything except the GPU pays for itself over a period of a few years, I have a very nice gaming rig (or media server or whatever) for just the cost of the extra parts. YES my model is assuming prices rise over time, but it only needs to hit a price point we've seen several times before in a fairly generous period of 3 years (~1 year down so far). Anything past that is also paying for the additional parts.

Also I went overboard on cooling so after that period of mining they'd probably be fine to resell, too.

You can easily profit from making machines mine monero but you probably cannot live on that income and probably can't just run xmrig and have it be profitable immediately (power/hardware costs)

This should incentivize you to get creative, perhaps try and EARN Monero by selling a product or offering a service on moneromarket.io . If you're just speculating, you should consider what the future value of Monero you mine today may be.

[Anonymous No.52648567]

What's some TOP monerochads to follow on Twitter?

[Anonymous No.52648621]

>>52646613
Mining is only profitable with a botnet

[Anonymous No.52649005]

>>52632163
How can I earn/get paid in monero are there any surveys it’s so obscure I can’t think of anything

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.52649199]

>>52649005
you could buy some kneepads with monero

[Anonymous No.52649212]

>>52646738
That is why I was thinking about it again, some socialist policies introduced here because of the "skyrocketing" electricity prices limits my kwh to 10 cents, 30 cents under market value
>>52647175
No problem per se, just that my suspicion about running dedicated xmr mining rigs is pointless
>>52648549
You mean like buying premium hardware today, mine monero with it and try to sell it to retail that is looking to buy "cheap" midrange hardware 3 years later.
This could actually make sense in some sort of electronics pawnshop/ second hand buisness.
>>52648621
And how would you make not every free antivirus instantly quarantine your miner?

[Anonymous No.52649297]

>>52641518
I'm stealing this copypasta this is golden

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.52649517]

>>52649212
>spend $1500-1600 on two mining rigs and the shelf to put them on
>in 3 years they mine ~5XMR (About $670 today, a price point of ~$320/XMR puts their total at $1600)
>you now have 2 CPU rigs that have paid for themselves
>sell rig 1 to friend for $400 (I already have buyer lined up)
>use $400 to purchase very nice GPU
>install GPU in rig 2
>I now have a decent gaming rig and a pile of money.
>use pile of money to finance next two mining rigs with the now slightly cheaper next gen hardware
>the cycle begins anew.
>I then have a gaming rig that was paid for by patience and two new mining rigs on the same shelf.

*assuming all goes to plan, which it probably won't*

[Anonymous No.52649907]

>>52648362
based

[Anonymous No.52650620]

>>52645644
i would say "teach me" but that sounds like i am glowing

[Anonymous No.52650723]

>>52648348
So basically BTC, XMR and ETH? In what percentages?

[Anonymous No.52651069]

love this coin

[Anonymous No.52651272]

>>52650723
>ETH
No, it's a PoS scam now.

[Anonymous No.52651341]

I am rich, fat, and diabetic and into luring in the sugar babies from Seeking.com, especially girls who are new to the game or desperate. They are often grad students or single moms.

Within an hour of meeting, I can tell that my backwards opinions and autistic jokes gross them out way more than my trollish looks. I have said racist shit to their faces and left the bathroom door open so they can smell my farts after dinner.

Guess how many of these girls have ever checked out before they suck dick?

Not one.

Most of them have never had a $300 dinner or a chance to stay in a hotel resort where literal celebs have drinks. They fucking FREAK like you're money Jesus if you take them shopping to pick up some shoes or a luxury bag or throw them a tuition payment that might be a day's earnings in my case.

I have made them work for every penny. Most of them know how my asshole tastes and have watched me check my blood sugar three times by the end of the night. A few lucky ladies get to lick a drop of blood off my fingertip. I openly ignore then when they main about condoms, too, and not one has ever stopped me going raw.

I always build up their hopes for an ongoing "Arrangement" but I am done after three meets and onto the next girl.

The few times I tried keeping the same babies for more than five months, they literally begged me to stop paying them and enter a relationship.

These women who wouldn't give a dude like me a kind glance if I wasn't loaded actually fell in love with my fat, egocentric, diseased albino rat ass.

They all cried hysterically when I told them it was over and I fucking laughed like an insane person as soon as I they were gone.

Fuck fucking women.

[Anonymous No.52651612]

Seems like 0.08 is strong.
Too bad 0.09 is going to be by btc dumping not xmr pumping.

[Anonymous No.52651792]

>>52641740
Are you the owner of monero.win ? I'm the one who posted that the site was back

I won a bet and I didn't get paid
I got in touch via the monero.win contact page, Could you check please?
Thanks

[Anonymous No.52651859]

>>52651341
I've been thinking about getting a sugar baby. Do you think any of them are smart enough to accept Monero and willing to do so???
It's honestly the most convenient way without a messy paper trail.

btw, hope you aren't actually a fat unhealthy blob. Not sure how rich people can not take care of their bodies.

[Anonymous No.52652828]

yeah

[Anonymous No.52652877]

wtf was that candle

[Anonymous No.52653152]

monero bros, what is the easiest and most efficient coin to trade for monero?
I will buy some monero but i can't do it directly so i have to buy a shitcoin and then trade it for monero, what do you recommend?

[Anonymous No.52653339]

>>52653152
Any
trocador.app
orangefren.com

[Anonymous No.52653357]

>>52653152
Litecoin or Algorand. They have good liquidity and fast/cheap transactions.

[Anonymous No.52653992]

>>52590280
I tried posting on leddit and will post on moneromarket but I have a feeling no one there is interested. Granted it’s been a day and I should calm my tits but if any burger here is interested and was a former member at hllofresh and is interested in autosubbing again, I’m willing to give a /biz/ discount for $30 rather than the asked $55. So in this case, you’d be getting $125 across 5boxes/5weeks; which would be $25 off every order. Im posting this again here because I just realized it’ll expire at the end of the year. I’ll post email to continue the convo from there

If anyone is willing to buy this from me, please respond. If not for this price then tell me what price you’re offering.

[Anonymous No.52654189]

Stoic, self-fascist samurai, open source libertarian.

Why yes, I do believe Monero is the only crypto currency worth shit, how did you guess?

[Anonymous No.52654271]

>>52645066
try some Xanax or Valium from the tor markets, i mean one good use of monero is for buying drugs on the darkwebz internet so...

[Anonymous No.52654303]

>>52645066
what's the thought pattern that's causing you this depression?
it needs to be solved.

[Anonymous No.52654861]

>>52654271
Antidepressants are pure evil. He'd be better off with shrooms or LSD.

[Anonymous No.52654956]

>>52654861
true, i agree with you about the shrooms and LSD, stay away from antidepressants absolutely, those SSRI shits will fuck you up bad, but Xanax and Valium are benzos. anti-anxiety pills, they changed my life for the better in a way shrooms and therapy alone couldn't. just don't get hooked on benzos.

[Anonymous No.52655354]

Why did the FTX "hacker" atomic swap his BTC into LTC instead of XMR. This shitcoin is dead and you all know it.

[Anonymous No.52655405]

>>52655354
Not all hackers are smart, look at the Uber hacker. People are creatures of habit, so he probably did it because it was something he's done before

[Anonymous No.52655765]

>>52655354
>swap his BTC into LTC
Source?

[Anonymous No.52656600]

>>52651859
>I've been thinking about getting a sugar baby. Do you think any of them are smart enough to accept Monero and willing to do so???

Monero definitely works like an IQ test, use it like a filter.

>btw, hope you aren't actually a fat unhealthy blob. Not sure how rich people can not take care of their bodies.

I do what I can, things start to break down more often once you get to be my age.

[Anonymous No.52657139]

>>52632163
Are you guys actually in it for the currency or just waiting for monero to moon I hope your guys are in for the currency

[Anonymous No.52657189]

>>52657139

[Anonymous No.52657301]

>>52645066
Please don't do what this retard >>52654271 is suggesting. Xanax and Valium are NOT antidepressants, they are benzos and are extremely physically addictive.
Stopping benzos cold turkey can send your body into shock and even kill you.
If you need to use drugs, use something natural like weed, or better yet fix your eating, exercise and sleep.

[Anonymous No.52657328]

>>52657139
>moons
?

If I was here for a moon I would have sold about 18 months ago. Sure it would be swell for what I do manage to save to be worth more over time but I own stocks and silver for that. As long as we don't have some apocalyptic implosion of buying power I really don't care what direction its fiat exchange rate goes.

[Anonymous No.52657433]

>>52648362
Privacy will be a big thing when the market rebounds

[Anonymous No.52658088]

>>52634514
>identity
Are you talking about something like ORE protocol for identity management?

[Anonymous No.52658315]

bros, wtf is this:

Error: failed to load wallet: internal error: "monero/wallet.keys" is opened by another wallet program

i tried using the gui for the first time in forever, was opening and closing it a few times. now i can't open the cli or gui.

ps aux
shows nothing except monerod running

[Anonymous No.52658378]

>>52658088
>ORE protocol
Nobody will ever use this.

[Anonymous No.52658449]

>>52658315
Ok figured out my wallet files got changed to root ownership, i guess since i opened the gui with sudo... now my node isn't working

[Anonymous No.52658632]

>>52645066
>>52654271
>>52654861
>>52654956
I've found Nootropics help. 5-HTP, GABA, Citrulline, and Betaine (Trimethylglycine) all help with calmness and lowering stress which helps immensely with being happier. I take Green Tea Extract and B-Complex to help replenish things used up by the above cocktail.

[Anonymous No.52659060]

>>52651300
diskikes BTFO'd

>>52657139
brah I don't think you have an idea of what XMR is. Price action doesn't actually matter at all for something like this. If it goes down, great; goes up, great; crabs, great.

[Anonymous No.52659581]

>>52632163
>>52657139
anon, true freedom is more valuable than any $-value moon-mission
>Do it for her.

[Anonymous No.52659741]

>>52645066

Are you doing anything physical? I have had deep depression as well through most of my life but once I started playing sports a couple times a week, everything improved drastically for me. Most importantly I started sleeping much differently and better which made every part of me feel better.

[Anonymous No.52660902]

>>52651792
Hey I haven't received anything I think it may have happened while I was updating the contact page. Could you resend it please? You should be able to find the game id with your TX. I'm sorry this has happened to you and will solve it asap once I receive the details.

[Anonymous No.52660911]

>>52658632
None of that shit does anything. Go outside you lazy fuck. Wasting your money on isolated amino acids is not going to turn your life around

[Anonymous No.52661100]

>>52651792
>>52660902
nevermind I've found the game. Payment done.
Sorry this should never happen again you were the first real user since I got hold of the site and I was still tweaking things in.

[Anonymous No.52661754]

stop ddosing dread

[Anonymous No.52662031]

Monero - Buy stock in bribe extortion schemes of communist administrators
https://n.l5.ca/elonmusk/status/1594151088080719877

[Anonymous No.52662632]

>>52661754
It's down on I2P too now. Sus.

[Anonymous No.52663005]

>>52658449
What's wrong with the node? That may also be root.

[Anonymous No.52663306]

>>52641740
Monero coin flip.

49xYCRdfqdXRF6D8gEPiSNaMyBSfYJmM2Qf2jtckz8VHU5ATmWvoYX6aPpnBQZksz81U2TbNFvJFKD4SDt5Qwqid5Pyvte6

[Anonymous No.52663487]

>>52658449
>Charlie Root steals your funds

[Anonymous No.52664162]

[Anonymous No.52664325]

>>52662632
inside job?

[Anonymous No.52664354]

>>52662632
>>52664325
They might be getting hit on both now, or may be having internal issues since they had to do a lot of min/maxing to try and keep the Tor mirror's head above water.

[Anonymous No.52664363]

>>52664325
>>52664354
Maybe just maintenance/upgrade.

[Anonymous No.52664935]

>>52663005
when i run monerod it kind of stalls on this:
2022-11-29 17:35:49.269 I Loading blockchain from folder /home/anon/bitmonero/lmdb ...

and then when i open the cli it has this error:
Error: wallet failed to connect to daemon: http://localhost:18081.. Daemon either is not started or wrong port was passed. Please make sure daemon is running or change the daemon address using the 'set_daemon' command.

the monerod and monero-wallet-cli where owned by root but i don't think that was an issue because i chown'ed them to my user and same result

[Anonymous No.52665131]

>>52664935
Try letting monerod run longer and make sure it has the right privileges (770 should work fine) before using the wallet. It seems like the daemon is taking its time to load, possibly due to a privilege issue

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.52665358]

If anyone in here has made some cool 3D printable files, music, ebooks, whatever, you can now list it for free and with zero commission over at monerosupplies.
The UX is "alright" but since I have no clue why it still wants shipping information even if everything is tagged as virtual (probably because of the monero payment gateway desu), people have to fill in some junk at checkout. I guess at least it keeps the lowest level of bots away.

Announcement post:
https://monerosupplies.com/2022/11/29/announcing-new-digital-items-platform-for-creators/

[Anonymous No.52665995]

>>52664325
I don't think so. hugbunter said it was one guy with extensive knowledge of tor doing it for what is essentially ransom payments. pretty spooky this guy can knock down multiple different onions who have people who prepared for attacks like this, but probably not an inside job.

[Anonymous No.52666028]

>>52664325
>>52665995
after I typed that out and read it again now I see why it being an inside job might make sense lol. still doubt it though

[Anonymous No.52666770]

>>52658315
dude.... stop or close the software you use for the wallet AND use the gui wallet... They already said you

[Anonymous No.52667016]

Does any xmr chads have the IMG of Flanders from the Simpsons with a cigar with the logo behind, stylized as 80'. I lost my hard disk with it :(

[Anonymous No.52667024]

>>52666770
that wasn't the issue, none of those processes were running. it seemed to be a permission issues with the wallet file

>>52665131
had it running for a while but no luck. i'm trying some debug stuff but i might have to just delete the node data and download from scratch

[Anonymous No.52667134]

>>52649517
you forgot to account for energy prices. other than that its exactly what eth miners have been doing

[Anonymous No.52667176]

>>52667016
This one?

[Anonymous No.52667177]

>>52667016
this one actually. help me out bros

[Anonymous No.52667212]

>>52667176
thank you bro. have some poopa

[Anonymous No.52667861]

>>52660902
>>52661100
Thanks man

[Anonymous No.52668312]

>>52665358
Based, what rules are in place? I'm assuming nothing too spicy, I wouldn't want a fellow MoneroChad getting v&.

Also I'm using the donation function you mentioned to show someone how easy it is to use XMR later.

[Anonymous No.52668358]

>>52633540
does anyone have a guide to torrenting with I2P?

[Anonymous No.52668406]

>>52668358
If you're on desktop, i2psnark is pretty straight forward. Go to your router console (127.0.0.1:7657/home iirc) and find the button for it. Once you're there, click "add torrent" and paste the magnet link

[Anonymous No.52668443]

>>52668406
oh wow this is awesome. So this just plugs into my i2pd?

[Anonymous No.52668486]

>install i2p (the java one not i2pd)
>it comes with a torrent client integrated called i2psnark
That's pretty much it for the basics lel.
http://tracker2.postman.i2p is the big tracker.
You can lower to 1 hops in i2psnark settings if you're not downloading anything too sensitive. Should improve performance. 2 or 3 as tunnel quantity is fine.

To browse I2P sites I create a new Firefox profile with "firefox --ProfileManager" and configure like so:
# Settings
HTTP proxy 127.0.0.1:4444
HTTPS proxy 127.0.0.1:4445
Enable dark theme to distinguish from clearnet browser.
Don’t enable HTTPS-Only Mode.

# about:config
# Prevent WebRTC IP address leak.
media.peerconnection.ice.proxy_only true
# Make it not search those but load the address.
browser.fixup.domainsuffixwhitelist.i2p true
browser.fixup.domainsuffixwhitelist.onion true
# Show whole URL.
browser.urlbar.trimURLs false
# Don't gray out parts of URL.
browser.urlbar.formatting.enabled false

>>52668443
You can use I2PSnark with i2pd but you need to download the standalone version. Then it plugs into i2pd's I2CP port I think, or SAM.

[Anonymous No.52668489]

>>52668443
I'm using the java version of i2p, but that's basically how it works for me. I don't think you can use it for clearnet torrents though, haven't tried but i2p normally stays separate from clearnet traffic for security reasons

[Anonymous No.52669270]

Zcash uber alles jajaja

[Anonymous No.52669769]

>>52669270
I haven't seen the zcash mentioned or their shills for awhile. Perhaps they are actually a neural network and saying the name of their coin summons them to provide us with incredibly cringeworthy reddit memes.

[Anonymous No.52669780]

>>52669270
>>52669769
That or Zooko isn't paying their electric bill anymore.

[Anonymous No.52669800]

>>52632163
I know next to nothing about crypto, but want to get in on it. Is now a good time to start? is anything expected to happen tomorrow with the SBF interview?

[Anonymous No.52669836]

>>52669800
>know next to nothing about crypto, but want to get in on it.
Why do you want to get into crypto then. You should decide this before you do anything.

[Anonymous No.52669845]

>>52669836
privacy and chances to make $$$

[Anonymous No.52671250]

>>52669845
>privacy
This is a good enough reason mostly, but I'd suggest you learn more about it first.
>chances to make $$$
Quit.

[Anonymous No.52672104]

>>52669800
Bear markets are when you should be buying like crazy, yes. That said, if you're interested in Monero watch the video in OP to get a decent understanding on basics. Never FOMO in l, and Monero in particular is about a greater vision, not an investment vehicle. The fact you
>might
do well financially is incidental.

[Anonymous No.52672676]

>>52636738
Privacy is literally fundamental, but not for criminal intentions

[Anonymous No.52672987]

>>52672676
3D printing a gun is not criminal

[Anonymous No.52673744]

I like Monero but Secret Network (SCRT) is better. Think of it as Monero with smart contracts. DeFi and privacy are the future of crypto.

[Anonymous No.52673952]

>>52673744
muh smart contracts muh nfts

[Anonymous No.52674002]

>>52673744
>I like Monero but Secret Network (SCRT) is better. Think of it as Monero with smart contracts. DeFi and privacy are the future of crypto.

[Anonymous No.52674011]

>>52672676
>Privacy is literally fundamental, but not for criminal intentions

[Anonymous No.52674083]

>>52654189
>Stoic, self-fascist samurai, open source libertarian.

All ideology is fake, gay and juvenile. The only thing that matters is power. Read Elite theory.

[Anonymous No.52674317]

>>52673952
>>52674002
Stay poor retards

[Anonymous No.52674344]

>>52674317
>Stay poor retards. Smart contracts and NFTs are the future of finance!

[Anonymous No.52674671]

>>52657139
i hold both Monero and sylo, I'm in for the tech, and believe they'll be valuable in years to come, but no one gives a fuck about tech anymore.

[Anonymous No.52674797]

>>52674671
And what tech does sylo provide that is so fascinating? Im curious, how is this tech going to give sylo a use case.
I love tech innovation in coins, because even if the coin fails we can still use the tech in new projects or just make a fusion with existing ones.

[Anonymous No.52674981]

>>52674671
>I'm in for the tech
He said it, he said the word! He's in for the tech guys.

Yet another "tech" "utility" "project" that does X but shittier and pays its token for nodes mining it. Miners jump on board and even start to cheat. Banning cheaters makes it worse and makes it centralized. Then when the user demand doesn't show up, the whole thing inevitably collapses. Like Helium.

The whole thing can be done with self hosted or regular crypto-paid servers storing and exchanging PGP messages. Users are identified with a PGP key, server can trustlessly store and forward encrypted and signed messages. That means you are not bound to a single server like email. Your address can include your home servers, or you can push a signed message to server indicating your server, so this gets added to a directory of users. Hell, you can simply just register a domain and point it to whatever server you're using. They should work with ENS too. Boom! Here you go, I designed a better system in 2 minutes.

[e-mail]@darkshit.onion@realshit.i2p

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PHs6Y5e7Y2fGcZh6Viag4lkMXJwCMBHVewz/g4xKrDROlbDHNk+T3/5zCUeGU1kZ
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AQA=
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Only if cryptotards actually knew crypto.

[Anonymous No.52675096]

Should the Monero blockchain be installed on an SSD? Does it make any difference?

[Anonymous No.52675135]

>>52675096
Yes. It especially matters for the initial sync time. We're talking potentially week vs hours. Random read speed is important.

[Anonymous No.52675497]

>>52674981
yes but how will they efficiently rugpull people if they do this? when you think like the scammers it all makes sense : P

[Anonymous No.52675645]

>>52673744
lol the whole SCRT blockchain was decrypted recently.
https://nitter.at/socrates1024/status/1597637285058863104?t=EY3rFkO6lATzrBuzQtl5xw&s=19
https://sgx.fail/

monerochads can't stop winning

[Anonymous No.52675724]

>>52675645
>yes sirs we'll do smart contracts on a super secrit part of a cpu sirs it's totally secure sirs you can trust it because intel pretty promised it's secure and impossible to redeem. that's enough to trust it, right my butifel bitch bastard?

[Anonymous No.52675743]

>>52674981
I don't see any block chain in that.
Won't work.

[Anonymous No.52676000]

>>52675743
Funnily enough, name system is like the 2nd best use case for blockchain after money, so you could shove it into server address resolution part. I could see it work there, still 100x less retarded then 99% of blockchain projects. However the way I would design the architecture, is to not trust any particular bit of infrastructure. So you don't have to use DNS if you can find the server another way. Oh and a BitTorrent style DHT might work maybe, but I wouldn't trust that either to be the one solution.

So yeah, basically still
[e-mail]@darkshit.onion@realshit.i2p
If one server is dead, the client looks for a special signed address message with updated addresses. Multiple servers make it easy with redundancy. If all are dead then it's lookup on DNS, directory server, blockchain, DHT, asking in person, whatever. The messages are signed, the medium doesn't matter.

Oh and to prevent flooding, each key and message will have a certain proof of work associated with it. For keys, they should be high as a number, about 30 secs of compute worth. For messages, a nonce field to make the message hashes high, about 5 secs of compute. Then if you're getting flooded you can sort and filter by PoW. Your added frens can be excepted of course. If you're going to be talking with some stranger, getting his address in advance will be a good idea so you can white list them too so it doesn't fall into spam folder.

Oh and to make a big open mailing list / forum, it's just unencrypted signed messages. To make a small private one, it's signed messages encrypted to all recipients as GPG does it. Forum is owned by a key. He can delegate by adding or revoking by a special message.

That's 10 more minutes design time.

[Anonymous No.52676041]

>>52676000
I was joking of course.
99% of crypto projects are trying to "solve" something that either isn't a problem or there are already better solutions.
Everytime someone tries to persuade me smart contracts are the future I want to stab my eyes.

[Anonymous No.52676060]

>>52663306
hhmm. might add that actually.
Saved your address and will send you a tip.
A proper bounty on bounties.monero.social will be posted for other game ideas soon.

[Anonymous No.52676526]

MONEROMARKET.IO

[Anonymous No.52677226]

>>52675645

Tiger blood comfirmed.

[Anonymous No.52677262]

Why is the Monero crowd so smart compared to the rest of /biz/? Holy fuck this is actually unreal, am I even on /biz/ anymore?

[Anonymous No.52677313]

>>52675645
How long have we been btfoing secret shills?
It has to be more than a year right?
Scam projects like these are disgusting.

[Anonymous No.52677439]

>>52641740
I'ive used this site and its legit. At least with the previous owners.
Also the 0.2 limit or any kind of limit should be necessary to avoid getting scammed. You know in casinos you can't bet more than 7 times doubling your money (something like that) because you will eventually recover your money and get an earning, this is why a limit is necessary.

[Anonymous No.52677475]

>>52677262
>Why is the Monero crowd so smart compared to the rest of /biz/?
Gatekept by knowledge of the word "fungible".

[Anonymous No.52677510]

>>52677262
Because this is not moon faggotry coin.

[Anonymous No.52678105]

>>52675645
Top kek

[Anonymous No.52678222]

>>52675645
I like scrt and I keked. Was to be expected tho. Still no worse than any other public ledger while functioning like a dex with a xmr,eth,bnb bridge

[Anonymous No.52678249]

>>52675645
another one bites the dust.

[Anonymous No.52678553]

>>52673744
Monero is tagged to be old tech, secret is revolutionary with a couple of projects building on the network. Delegating scrt on Stakewolle for passive income rewards. Privacy networks could be the next big thing anonfags, Monero, SpiderDAO, railgun and others are gaining traction

[Anonymous No.52678644]

I am unbelievably comfy.

[Anonymous No.52679195]

>>52678553
>Delegating scrt on Stakewolle for passive income rewards.
Not to mention cross-staking ButterflyX to BASEDjizz and ScamCoin on the GooGoo-GaGa network for the heckin 50% Yeild!!! Passive Income for teh win! we did it reddit!
Now let me just namedrop these coins that I am shilling next to monero in the same sentence to give them some semblance of credibility.

[Anonymous No.52679379]

>>52675645
Holy fuck they were using SGX to hide transactions? SGX is just for stupid bullshit that doesn't matter like DRM.
ARE YOU MAD? ARE YOU BLOODY MAD? DO NOT REDEEM THE KEYS MOTHER BITCH

>>52676000
>Funnily enough, name system is like the 2nd best use case for blockchain after money
Sure but the petname systems (GNS, others) are still better than the namecoin-like systems.
Also there are vanity addresses which are a tiny bit better for i2p and tor.

[Anonymous No.52679449]

>>52677262
>Why is the Monero crowd so smart compared to the rest of /biz/? Holy fuck this is actually unreal, am I even on /biz/ anymore?
Because /xmr/ general should be on /g/ or lainchan instead but we're all here

[Anonymous No.52679514]

>>52677262
We just aren't smart enough to understand eth casino

[Anonymous No.52680011]

>>52642037
is dread even up on i2p? I heard they got DDOSed in onionland

[Anonymous No.52680796]

>>52658378
Over 200k users already, retard. Not sure you know anything about onchain identity.

[Anonymous No.52680880]

>>52675645
Nothingburger. Vulnerability was discovered by white hare hackers and quickly patched. Shows that the process works.

[Anonymous No.52681711]

>>52680011
Yeah, but they were down last time I checked.

>>52680880
>entire blockchain fucking shattered by some researcher(s)
>"lol they reported it responsibly so it's fine"
You're a fucking idiot
>captcha AAASHT

[Anonymous No.52681724]

>>52680880
bro it literally uses trusted execution for privacy. That is the most insane retarded thing I have ever heard of. Intel can literally just break it whenever they want.
The whole security model is based on the idea that it is impossible to inspect or modify silicon (it is impractical, but you only have to do it once to break the privacy for everyone).
If there is a single failure point (Intel Corp.) then why not just use a central bank?

[Anonymous No.52681778]

>>52681724
Shit, at least have a generic enclave-provider interface and make separate backend modules for Intel, AMD, ARM, etc. so people can run over whatever hardware. Going all in on Intel specific hardware REEKS of curry.

[Satoshi Nakamoto No.52682544]

>>52661754
Its asap market down for everyone or is it just me? Dread is down too I dont know anywhere else to ask but here

[Anonymous No.52684272]

>>52682544
ya dread and most market onions have been under ddos attack for weeks now.

[Satoshi Nakamoto No.52684377]

>>52684272
It was working just fine like 3 weeks ago, Im just trying to get my re up, mane. Why do I gotta deal with this bullshit

[Anonymous No.52685077]

Is moneromarket and other sites safe for offering professional services (ie Design) for crypto? My Brazilian friend offered translation work through an intermediary he met online on leddit’s jobs4btc sub and they got approached by a person who wanted a simple translation for his website. The account of said person mysteriously got deleted and when said person made an alt to reach out again, he asked my friend to contact them via email. The bizarre part is that the email and name is linked to a legit person online who hosted hundreds of tor nodes and got raided by German glowies; and said site said he’s been missing since the 2020 incident as well as anyone impersonating him might by a German glowie. Simply googling his name gets really sus results. My friend has the worst fucking luck, all he ever knew was translating dragon ball z subs for Brazilians and Spanish speaking people. Can someone verify if the links in the pasta like moneromarket are free of this weird ass shit

[Anonymous No.52685135]

>>52685077
I wouldn't trust MoneroMarket because they have had a weed listing up for awhile, showing a lack of moderation. If someone gets fucked over, I wouldn't count on admins helping. That being said, it says the listing is German and only ships domestic. Maybe it's legal there and I'm overanalyzing

[Anonymous No.52685897]

>>52675645
beamed

[Anonymous No.52685966]

>>52675724
>super secrit part of a cpu
They certainly like messing around with CPUs.

[Anonymous No.52686340]

>>52675645
What the fuck, that's brutal

[Anonymous No.52686861]

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hFJu4TDRxUo
great podcast talking about monero, 3d guns

[Anonymous No.52687105]

How does Litecoin MimbleWimble compare to XMR?

Asking in good faith.

[Anonymous No.52687304]

>>52675645
Damn, I was hoping to use secret to cash out my shitcoin bags to xmr next cycle

[Anonymous No.52687419]

>>52632206
uWu

[Hodlin' Caulfield No.52687457]

>>52687304
you can do that on plenty of other services

[Anonymous No.52687626]

>>52653152
Unironically bitcoin.
With all these custodial wallet apps you can send bitcoin for cheap and don't even need to care about the taxman since they're liteeally not your coins

[Anonymous No.52687659]

>>52687105
It doesn't

[Anonymous No.52687847]

>>52687626
>With all these custodial wallet apps you can send bitcoin for cheap and don't even need to care about the taxman since they're liteeally not your coins
there is no way you're being serious

[Anonymous No.52687859]

>>52687105
mimblewimble is a failure. you might as well just use a mixer.

[Anonymous No.52688293]

>>52687457
Monero offramp made it easy for cosmos shitcoins though, provided they still need to get more liquidity.

[Anonymous No.52688476]

>>52687105
From reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/rxiuq1/litecoin_mimblewimble_upgrade_vs_monero/

>Areas where Monero wins
>1)Monero is untraceable. Sources demonstrate flow of payments in Mimblewimble could be 95%+ traceable.
>2)LTC Mimblewimble is opt-in, making private transactions stand out. Think ZEC.
>3)Monero is substantially more private because the transaction-graph isn't traceable.
>4)No-one uses opt-in privacy coins currently.
>5)LTC MW may lead to Monero publicity as privacy is talked about
>6)LTC MW threatens BTC by raising fungibility & privacy concerns.
>7)Monero has additional beneficial features such as tail emission, random-x.

>Areas where LTC Mimblewimble could win
>1)MW might be considered enough privacy for the mainstream masses.
>2)LTC has much greater liquidity (availability on exchanges)
>3)MW might be enough to add some fungibility to LTC.
>4)LTC could be resistant to exchange bans because of opt-in privacy status.
>5)LTC MW might be enough privacy to be accepted on DNMs. After all BTC is still widely used there.
>6)MW might be enough to break some blockchain surveillance.
>7)MW adds scalability improvements to LTC
>8)LTC doesn't have the negative public image with criminal usage. (lol who gives a shit redditor)

[Anonymous No.52689726]

Frens can someone help me run my node over tor and i2p?
https://old.reddit.com/r/monerosupport/comments/z8n04u/can_someone_post_a_working_example_of_a/

[Anonymous No.52689763]

>>52688476
>Might be, Might be, Might be, Might be
Litecoin is a shitty bitcoin fork with half assed solutions. If I wanted bitcoin I would buy bitcoin. I don't want bitcoin thus I am here.

[Anonymous No.52690970]

Monero is nice, but real killer web3 tech is privacy + DeFI. Secret network (SCRT) is to XMR what ETH is to BTC.

[Anonymous No.52691064]

Why didn't crypto crash in spite of the Blockfi bankruptcy

[Anonymous No.52691149]

>>52690970
https://sgx.fail/

[Anonymous No.52691180]

>>52687847
If you send bitcoin from cashapp, to a DEX on orangefren:
-cashapp has a record that they sent $x worth of bitcoin to an address on your behalf
-you never 'bought' bitcoin; your bitcoin balance never changes
-irsniggers can try to treat this as 'you' 'buying' and 'selling' bitcoin if they want; your tax liability is $0 since you instantly bought and sold bitcoin for no profit
-the DEX has no idea who initiated the trade, nor does orangefren

[Anonymous No.52691212]

>>52691180
>-cashapp has a record that they sent $x worth of bitcoin to an address on your behalf
>-you never 'bought' bitcoin; your bitcoin balance never changes
You just explained how you bought bitcoin and then said you didn't. Do you really think someone else buying something on your behalf doesn't count as you buying it?
>irsniggers can try to treat this as 'you' 'buying' and 'selling' bitcoin if they want; your tax liability is $0 since you instantly bought and sold bitcoin for no profit
Yes, you should have 0 capitals gains because you gained nothing.

[Anonymous No.52691329]

>>52687105
Mimblewimble is a broken technology. Doesn't even reach the heels of Monero's tech.
https://scribe.rip/dragonfly-research/breaking-mimblewimble-privacy-model-84bcd67bfe52

[Anonymous No.52691548]

% of offshore money moving into monero

[Anonymous No.52691749]

>>52691548
based pic. saved.
Gotta get dat sui stack.

[Anonymous No.52691753]

>>52691548
How realistic is 2%?
I would say not very, but I want some hopium.

[Anonymous No.52691977]

the only viable holdings right now
>XMR: REAL anonymity
>BIT: self governance
>ETH: dApps

[Anonymous No.52693232]

[None !!7v28EJgJk6N No.52694237]

What is Monero Milkshake Theory?

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.52694281]

[Anonymous No.52695182]

>>52635166
Anon please, what's the name of this bash program to control miners ? And yes, ofc, p2pooling

[Anonymous No.52695434]

>>52694237
Monero Milkshake Theory explained first by explaining Dollar Milkshake Theory:

>US dollar is the world reserve currency, foreign central banks keep balances of it for it's perceived stability relative to other currencies
>global debts and trade agreements are disproportionately denominated in US dollars regardless of the countries involved for the same reason
>USD can and has existed in tandem and relative "peace" in terms of exchange rates with other fiat currencies because the interest rates for bonds between different currencies has remained sufficiently stable, and the US treasury has kept US bond interest rates at reasonable levels for many decades
>this has allowed an extremely fragile, "top heavy" international trade and debt system based on USD to grow as mentioned above
>it is fragile and top heavy because no one ever asks "well so then what happens if the US dollar diverges significantly from other fiat currencies in terms of perceived safety, bond yields vs. competing currencies, and liquidity on bond markets?" i.e. like in a situation where there was great economic stress test caused by uncontrolled inflation, a severe global recession, etc.
>Dollar Milkshake Theory posits that if a sufficient "stress test" scenario broke out that caused the US government to massively increase interest rates and bond yields to (say) curb runaway inflation and protect the perceived safety of the US dollar, you would create massive demand for US dollars/bonds while local fiat currencies/bonds (e.g. Japanese Yen, Pesos, Ruble, Euro, etc.) were dumped en masse to in turn buy USD.

1/2

[Anonymous No.52695446]

Yo, can someone explain why whenever I find a share its ALWAYS within the same millisecond as accepting the job? Shouldn't it have to do work to find the share, meaning the times should usually be at least a bit apart?

[Anonymous No.52695466]

>>52695434
>because this stress test created substantial buy pressure for USD and the value starts to rise, people/governments/corporations begin thinking "wait a minute, I have a bunch of debt denominated in USD" and you end up with a positive feedback loop, rush-for-the-exits scenario where people start trying to desperately dump their own fiat currencies/bonds to buy up as much USD as they can while it's "cheap" so they can service said debts (instead of waiting for USD to go even higher and it becomes even more expensive to service those debts if they wait)
>this positive feedback loop of people dumping their own currencies to buy USD, pushing the USD higher, and in turn starting the pattern over again repeatedly, likely ends with the USD sucking all the liquidity and value out of every other fiat currency in the world before the US dollar itself dies as a result of the repercussions of this scenario being a severe, global economic depression
>Monero Milkshake Theory asks "okay so then what comes after this whole scenario of the US dollar kills every other fiat currency before the dollar itself dies?"

[Anonymous No.52695508]

>>52695466
>as the above mentioned rush into US dollars isn't based on love but out of a panicked defensive action (and the US dollar dies in the end anyway), you're also going to have a pivot in global trade agreements away from the "dude trust me bro" standards of fiat and towards "hard" commodity money that is based on tangible production costs, known supplies, etc.
>as "bad money tends to drive out good money" from the daily-spending economy, whatever the "goodest" monies are will likely take over the role of reserve currency, safe haven, settlement layer for international trade, etc. in the global economy to replace the vacuum left by USD
>for reasons I don't need to tell Monero people, this is extremely good for gold, silver, Bitcoin and Monero as they're the hardest forms of money in existence and could realistically form the backbone of the world economy in the wake of all of the above
>since Monero out of the above four is the only one really useful as an actual currency, in particular the "trade agreement" function could be largely captured by Monero, and in particular for black/gray market deals (think: the entirety of the international drug trade, not just TOR darknet markets)
>all other forms of money previously used to facilitate drug deals (i.e. cash) are already considered trash and get dumped en masse by people who start buying up Monero to make sure they can pay for their deals cheaper now instead of waiting later and having the price go up
>hence, Monero Milkshake Theory

[Anonymous No.52695517]

>>52635166
>zsh

based

[Anonymous No.52695992]

>>52691149
lol, their price didn't care at all

[Anonymous No.52696054]

>>52695992
Yeah I'm willing to bet the kind of people who would buy or hold it have no idea what any of those words even mean.

[Anonymous No.52696056]

>>52695992
>Mixing up price and value

[Anonymous No.52696934]

What is the best mobile wallet for monero?

OP says cake wallet (IOS), but is this true?

[Anonymous No.52697108]

>>52696934
Cake wallet has a gift card feature, so you can spend XMR in stores. It also has a swap thing built-in for other cryptos. I think the gift cards are a US only thing though

[Anonymous No.52697162]

>>52695992
proof od stake locks it for 21 days

[Anonymous No.52697380]

>>52695508
Not sure if it's funny or sad.
I guess keep on stacking, keep on being comfy.

[Anonymous No.52697511]

[Anonymous No.52698031]

POOMPA
*BANG BANG*
POOMPA
*BANG BANG*
POOMPA
*BANG BANG*

[Anonymous No.52698165]

>>52679195
its so tiresome bros.

[Anonymous No.52698214]

>>52694237
The greater the adoption of Monero, the bigger Monero-chan's boobs get

[Anonymous No.52698226]

>>52698214
there goes my paycheck
>>52698031
Based

[Anonymous No.52698290]

>>52691753
eh, think about millionaires and billionaires worldwide. gov = evil and corrupt. Bank = evil and corrupt. if they decided to freeze your money it would happen at a moments notice. any rich person worth a shit has thought about ways to preserve their wealth if corrupt gov and banks decided to go full tyranny. all it will take is a few stashing some small percentage of their wealth in xmr for the price to rise significantly, especially at the current lvls of mcap and liquidity. and once that happens, then it basically green lights others to do the same. etc etc.

[Anonymous No.52698395]

>>52698290
>gov = evil and corrupt. Bank = evil and corrupt
Last time I checked these entities were evil and corrupt because of billionaires.
They literally have them on payroll.
You think then will hurt the hand that feeds them?
Look at Biden doing mental gymnastics in order to stop having some workers having any sick days because Bufet said so or something.
The system is corrupt for us not them.

[Anonymous No.52698439]

>>52695508
this is a great write up, thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.52698509]

Infinte supply shit. Stick with Bitcoin if you have half a brain.

[Anonymous No.52698552]

>>52698509
>Less Monero than Bitcoin until 2040

[Anonymous No.52698558]

>>52698395
i dont think all the rich people in the world are the cause of all of our suffering, but of course they play their parts. govs are not filled with the smartest or most moral of us, and yes there is corruption and that corruption stems from under the table deals (lobbying etc). basically what i meant was that once some big fish start to buy some, it will essentially begin a feeding frenzy. now i know xmr bros dont want the speculative moonbois etc, in here with us. but sadly its inevitable with price action. atleast it will be at first.

[Anonymous No.52698571]

>>52698552

Cope. Infinite supply is infinite supply.

[Anonymous No.52698583]

>>52698571
Cope. You don't understand what the word infinite means.

[Anonymous No.52698650]

>>52698583

Its what Bitcoin aint.

[Anonymous No.52698674]

>>52695446
Anyone? This has been bugging me for awhile now.

[Anonymous No.52698695]

>>52698558
>i dont think all the rich people in the world are the cause of all of our suffering
Neither do I
>that once some big fish start to buy some
Yeah but why would they start if the current system is the one protecting all the big fishes?
The only reason Russian oligarchs started to get their properties siezed, is due to Putin being batshit insane.
London, one of the major cities of western civilization is gladly laundering Russian money.

[Anonymous No.52698818]

>>52698674
idk bro, sadly im not a miner chad. maybe one day il be able to. ask early in the next thread. also maybe dm some xmr chads on twitter or something. someone should be able to tell you.

[Anonymous No.52698852]

>>52698571
>Infinite supply fud
When you make a 20 million XMR transaction please let me know

[Anonymous No.52698943]

>>52698695
>Yeah but why would they start if the current system is the one protecting all the big fishes?
imo the game, at the higher lvls anyway, is basically go along to get along. but it doesnt work for everyone. there is clearly a growing divide amongst the wealthy and powerful. look at elon, trump, kanye, etc look at the sentiment surrounding them. there are more and more people listening to counter culture than continueing to digest modern narrative spin. i honestly dont know if it will matter short term, but long term, the trend is growing. the gov is currently turning on elon ie, biting a big hand that feeds. its already turned on trump and the political right in general. and kanye was basically just brought low for not conforming. it feels to me that its a matter of time before those and those like them or that ascribe to them, start seriously looking for alternatives. idk im rambling. it just feel obvious to me. not short term, but long term. writing on the wall and all that.

[Anonymous No.52699149]

>>52698695
>Putin being batshit insane
bias much nigger, compared to who
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOJGL_Qleds

>>52698695
>The only reason Russian oligarchs
out of all the (EX) oligarch, only one was a ethnically Russian.

You are living in dream world Neo, now buckle your rascal scooter, stop drinking corn syrup, and wake up... to the desert of the real

[Anonymous No.52699289]

Each zcash boy must understand that he must mind his shitpost spam

[Anonymous No.52699406]

>>52699289

Literal streetshitting coin.

[Anonymous No.52699454]

>>52699149
n-word used

[Anonymous No.52699473]

how are you monero holders preparing for a sudden death?
how will your family get access to your crypto?
does your mother know how to use a mnemonic seed?

[Anonymous No.52699592]

>>52699473
good questions. il think about them later.

[Anonymous No.52699615]

>>52699473
>mother
You mean wife right? And my shit is in a safe my wife's aware of. I'll make some video tutorials for her as well.

[Anonymous No.52699619]

>>52699473
Working on getting a Dead Man's Switch setup on a remote server and paying for it a year in advance. General idea is
>log into switch once every 1-2 months
>if 3 months pass with no login, automatically send pre-generated PGP encrypted message with wallet seed to best friend or brother
Only problems are that my best friend regularly cycles PGP keys for some reason and refuses to stop and my brother is too young to have a working grasp on PGP yet. He mostly knows how Monero works, but he's exactly the kind of guy to make a PGP key and then forget the password for it.

[Anonymous No.52699736]

>>52699473
They're not gonna grow soft off my hard earned xmr. Once I'm dead it will be gone forever and make all of yours worth more. Wife and kids will end up better off if they're forced to work for a living.

[Anonymous No.52699761]

>>52636501
bisq. either buy btc and trade for xmr on bisq, or buy btc and atomic swap to xmr

[Anonymous No.52699830]

>>52641740
not really "random" anymore but maybe something more competitive? i've been thinking of a way of programming a rock paper scissors game mode - two random people send an amount to an address, and their choice is the amount modulo 3 - but it seems like too complex an idea to get attention. i was gonna do it myself but i tried digging into the protocol and got confused quickly

sorry for the bad idea but i'll take some pity monero

88g82TJAaN3MFfj1Rn2LDgHmLFhFr4AaxL5S5DQsThaBK9j8M6QSPMNfHR8iZNoTLj87YWztBrV59d4yJSPrTP3CR8C8VU9

[Anonymous No.52699884]

>>52699454
>n-word used
nigger?

Are you not scared to be on hacker 4chang, you might get negative karma points and a ban on plebit

[Anonymous No.52699984]

Prove there isn't already an active inflation bug. You can't.

[Anonymous No.52699998]

>>52699984
https://www.moneroinflation.com/

[Anonymous No.52700012]

Does anyone want to buy a hellofresh former member offer gift card worth $155? It’s the only one worth this much. The only con is that it only is applicable for former/ex members wanting to return to the service and the 155 is spread across 5 boxes.

[Anonymous No.52700092]

>>52699884
yeah, n-word used

[Anonymous No.52700137]

>>52699998

lol what's this supposed to prove?

[Anonymous No.52700194]

>>52700137
>lol what's this supposed to prove?

that you're an unmitigated retard.

[Anonymous No.52700222]

>>52696934
>>52697108

Please do NOT USE monero on IOS.
You're keys WILL land in Mr.Cook's personal inbox.

Apple already bends over a little for the CCP, so now think about when the US gov wants to crack down on monero. Feds will demand every single piece of information available when grey/dark money moves to monero, especially when some high level shit is funded.

[Anonymous No.52700226]

>>52700194

Not a rebuttal.

[Anonymous No.52700245]

>>52700226
>>Not a rebuttal.

What would be the #1 smoking gun of an exploited inflation bug, dipshit?

[Anonymous No.52700277]

>>52700245

That's exactly the point - there's no way of knowing.

[Anonymous No.52700369]

>>52700277
>That's exactly the point - there's no way of knowing.

Fuckhead, anybody actually capable of printing endless XMR will be dumping as much of it as possible on as many exchanges as possible before the bug is discovered and patched. This means multiple exchanges would be absolutely flush with excess XMR.

Yet the exact opposite is true, exchanges keep halting XMR withdrawals due to low supply. There's no inflation bug.

[Anonymous No.52701030]

>>52699473
Everyone in my family is uneducated and can barely do more than basic adult stuff.
It was like pulling teeth just to convince my Mom to create a debit card with her bank that she still physically goes to each week to physically pay bills. My older sis never finished high school and has 4 kids and but 2 have autism because she had them late in life and they are getting fat because none of them know how to live proper.

My death is a viking death; when I go it all goes with me; these people cannot be saved.

[Anonymous No.52701080]

NEW THREAD: >>52701075
>NEW THREAD: >>52701075
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NEW THREAD: >>52701075
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