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Hello, I am about to give you a list.
These coins are all the next btc, eth or link.
I don't even know why I am doing this, you are all welcome. You don't deserve this.

ANATHA
ORAI
TheGraph
API3
Polyient Games

This is it, this list contains all the life changing money projects from here to 2025. Donate some to charity.

>> No.23806362

Institutional time travel would never be feasible without a system that could be understood as a "reset button", however its existence also decreases by several orders of magnitud the gravity of any action taken while in the loop.
In other words, I just want to see what happens if I give to some of the smartest of you access to billions.

>> No.23806420

>>23806282
>>23806362
thank you

>> No.23806451

>>23806282
Black people ruined this great nation.

>> No.23806536

Is anatha and api3 even purchasable

>> No.23806545

>>23806536
I just bought anatha. Look it up on coingecko and copy the contract

>> No.23806577

I just came back from the future. They all rugged.

>> No.23806600

>>23806362
thank you based schiz time traveler

>> No.23806848

API3 seems like a great alternative to LINK, but there is no indication as to how the incentive system will work for nodes in the "decentralized API" system (which physically need to do the computation, and which are points of failure via deactivation and external attacks), and thus the granularity of API options to smart contracts with respect to the node-running conditions. With the Chainlink marketplace, there will eventually be an ecosystem of data providers with different levels of security parameters tuned to what people want/need at different scales, which will be difficult to replicate in a oracle computation scheme that seems to dissolve everything by default to the same network of dAPI node operators (which also means no trusted hardware unless a large enough base of node providers build up a standardized capability). What is API3 doing outside of building precisely the same thing, except with the development of the decentralized oracles being directed via DAO governance (rather than a literally decentralized marketplace of irl individuals), computed by default in a decentralized manner, and mediated with a non-tokenized payout scheme? With the Chainlink network, the token value itself allows for the emergence of an economic/game-theoretic system shaped to avoid bad-actor behavior and sidestep the need for dealing with outlier detection problems in by-default dAPI aggregation schemes. Perhaps users will be able to readily "assign" active nodes, based on transparent parameters (location, hardware in use, running time, etc.) to execute API call-jobs, but this is effectively what is already going to happen in the Chainlink marketplace, just without the token and in a theoretically highly streamlined and "decentralized" way (but even this is unclear, because compensation still needs to happen, so it seems like the only difference is that the execution of the oracle behavior is fully standardized in accordance to the DAO's organizational decisions)

>> No.23806864

>>23806282
Anon I'm gonna drop a bomb on you, all those projects are hot turds.
This is gonna go past 100 mil mcap.
Smartcredit.

>> No.23806888

>>23806282
Uniswap links?

>> No.23806889

>>23806282
ANATHA and ORAI look promising. Going to check out the rest and monitor these projects, thanks for the info OP. I wish you great fortune

>> No.23806925

I only found wrapped anatha on uniswap, is that the same thing?

>> No.23807137

>>23806282
>no kleros

oops

>> No.23807188

>>23806848
Genuinely interested in hearing a response to this if anyone who has researched API3 is reading. As it turns out, there is a governance token for API3 which is also related to user staking and payouts, so the notion of there being no "middleman" is an absurdity (the middleman is just dissolved into the API3 network, which is itself the middleman for the smart contract users and the data providers). What would possibly make this a better solution that having an open marketplace when you have to deal instead with flattening all API calls/computation to a standardized mass of node operators with standardized aggregation and outlier detection algorithms (if these algorithms can be determined on the user-end, the "assigning" of nodes for specific jobs, again this is no different than the CL marketplace). I am seeing nothing more than a reduction of economic system complexity and thus optimization specificity (the primary benefit of an 'pro-adaptive' incentives open market) -- there's no additional decentralization, and any positives in relation to running cost (from the smart contract user's perspective) is at the behest of the benevolence of a "public good"-mindset DAO (which is not the case when its organizational decisions are strongarmed by governance token oligarchs working with profit incentives).

>> No.23807311

>>23806864
This

>> No.23807331

>>23806848
Sounds like you need to read this: https://link.medium.com/VLb6UcBqgbb

Staking will never be implemented in Chainlink because it’s impossible. And staking is the main value prop for LINK. Sergey smartly says everything is “configurable” in Chainlink in order to hand wave away questions. It’s a clever move in the short term, but will inevitably fail

>> No.23807350

>>23807188
>https://link.medium.com/VLb6UcBqgbb
https://link.medium.com/VLb6UcBqgbb

>> No.23807405

>>23807331
I read precisely that article (and two others) from the API3 medium before making the above post. What are your responses to each of the issues mentioned in the two posts above?

>Staking will never be implemented in Chainlink because it’s impossible.
Staking is not impossible, and indeed an alternate staking scheme is going to take place with API3:
>The staked API3 tokens will back an on-chain insurance service as collateral to provide dAPI users with quantifiable and trustless security guarantees.
>The API3 tokens staked to receive rewards and voting power at the DAO are also used to collateralize an insurance service. In the case of a malfunction, the dAPI user will be able to claim compensation up to a pre-negotiated amount from the staking pool. Kleros will be used to decide if the claim is to be paid out based on the presented evidence. This will incentivize stakers to actively participate in governance to ensure that dAPIs are being managed transparently and in a way that minimizes security risks.
Their answer in the case of an outlier dispute/data call discrepancy is literally "Kleros court". Again, point by point, what is your response to each of the issues mentioned in my above posts?

>> No.23807444

>>23807405
Im having a hard time parsing your question desu
>but there is no indication as to how the incentive system will work for nodes in the "decentralized API" system (which physically need to do the computation, and which are points of failure via deactivation and external attacks), and thus the granularity of API options to smart contracts with respect to the node-running conditions

What do you mean by “nodes in the decentralized APIs”? Granularity of API options? Etc?

>> No.23807542

>>23807444
"nodes in the decentralized APIs" is just API3-speak for oracle nodes. The dAPI will be run by a network of participating nodes, acting as "oracles" but with baked-in aggregation and a standardized execution protocol (thus API3's insistence against using the term "oracle" and switching to dAPI). "Granularity of API options" is in reference to, as stated, the node running conditions, which in turn means the security-related parameters for the smart contract end-user (e.g. in the Chainlink marketplace, the decision to choose some nodes using trusted hardware, some nodes in specific geographic locations, with a specific running time, etc.). The dAPI scheme dissolves everything into a standardized arrangement -- if this is not the case, as is discussed in both of the posts above, i.e. one can for example "assign" subsets of the dAPI nodes, based on certain transparent parameters, to make certain API calls, this becomes little different that Chainlink's marketplace. The posts taken in full should be self-explanatory for the most part.

>> No.23807562

Anyone giving money to API3 deserves to stay poor

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>>23806282
The Penguin Party is about to move to expand their governance power to Compound.finance and issue a wrapped-delegated COMP token as well as a wrapped-delegated Uni [where they already control over $500k in voting power].

This Penguin Party Fish token seems SUPER fucking bullish, bizanons, are you going to miss this train? They have their own channel in official uniswap discord and their own interface for uniswap:
https://penguinswap.eth.link/

https://info.uniswap.org/token/0x30bcd71b8d21fe830e493b30e90befba29de9114

>> No.23807585

>>23806925
yes

>> No.23807625

>>23806925
check out the telegram btw, the founder is on there like 12 hours a day. he’s had a few video AMAs with the Crypto & Coffee youtube channel too.