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>> No.21285546

biden 2020

>> No.21285573

What the fuck happened today?

All my gains have been wiped out today?!?

>> No.21285574

>>21285546
fpwp

>> No.21285584

>>21285546
Snuff n Blow 2020

>> No.21285595
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is anyone else relatively young with a decent amount of capital that gets fucking anxiety over what long term ETFs/holds to set and forget? I heart TQQQ/SOXL/SPY/QQQ/SOXX etc. I know what all of them are but I cant decide what to do

>> No.21285598

kamala more like kum

>> No.21285599

>>21285573
kamala bearis

>> No.21285600
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Apple is fucked isn't it. Bout to sell at a loss

>> No.21285625
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I remember February. We were shorting China. And then it hit us.

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21285647

Is this /pol/ now? Who gives a fuck Biden/Kamala is a shit ticket and everyone knows is. How is this gonna affect my poor stack tomorrow??

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>>21285536
>Posting dead wsj manga edition

>> No.21285666
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>>21285599
kumala bearis

>> No.21285670

>>21285647
>memestocks

you fucked yourself

>> No.21285694

>>21285647
You must be new or retarded.
Markets are most skeptical during election years.
The matter little to the market but the person in charge is as it effects decisions

>> No.21285695

>>21285600
>selling at a loss
>on apple
only 1 out of 1 million people do this

>> No.21285702

>>21285595
If you are "relatively young" and want to set and forget any of those you should do so maybe a year from now. A year won't matter.
In the mean time you can play around with learning how the market works. Maybe play around with options but only with a small amount of capital and limited risk (covered calls) or try shorting. There is a lot of money to be made even still but you need a lot of experience, dedication, emotional detachment, and planning that you probably don't have now.
FOMO is the worst damn thing.

>> No.21285714

>>21285647
>those stocks
You get what you deserve I suppose.

>> No.21285716

>>21285595
no, you know why? cuz i lost all my money in the 2017 bull market. and when i was going to buy LINK, i bought substratum instead because that fucking kike datadash.

>> No.21285732

Most, if not all, of us are addicted to gambling our monies in the stock market. It is a truly nightmarish fate.

>> No.21285734
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21285734

>Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”

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>>21285595

For long long long-term buy and "hold until you're old", Boglehead 3-fund portfolio is the easiest. Full bond, domestic, and international markets with maximum diversification. You can't reliably beat the market, so own the market.

20% BND
70% VTI
10% VXUS

Those are Vanguard funds; Schwab and Fidelity have equivalent funds that track the same indices if you prefer those.

Invest after each paycheck or as often as you're able, and regard inevitable market crashes which happen as "ON SALE, BUY FOR CHEAP" signs so you don't panic-sell.

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>>21285670
>>21285694
>>21285714

Ok ok. What would you guys suggest here? Am I looking at sunk costs?

Give me a few pointers

>> No.21285806

>>21285765
but the TQQQ shill has got me convinced that owning total market funds or index trackers is retarded and that tech will be here for the next 10 years. and honestly, I believe him
>>21285702
i dont want to miss out on a massive dip that may be coming, but i am afraid of fucking up and buying the wrong thing when that time comes

>> No.21285811
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21285811

Recommend me some /smg/ movies or documentaries. I loved The Big Short and Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room.

>> No.21285812
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21285812

>Silver
>Gold

>> No.21285849

>>21285793
Sell WKHS and SSL. Just buy SPY or QQQ instead. Just dont buy memes.

>> No.21285854

BLOOD RED TOMORROW.

>> No.21285864

>>21285812
Is this a bad or good fren? I can't see futures

>> No.21285880

>>21285546

Fuck that him and you

>> No.21285886

>>21285864
Open your eyes.

>> No.21285890

>>21285806
>but the TQQQ shill has got me convinced that owning total market funds or index trackers is retarded and that tech will be here for the next 10 years. and honestly, I believe him

Nobody owns a crystal ball that tells you what the world will be like in 5, 10, 20 years. If you're comfortable with TQQQ, by all means go for it as long as you know the implications. I would not have wanted to hold on to such a thing exclusively back when the dot-com bubble burst.

I prefer whole market because diversification is the ONLY "free lunch" in investing. There will always be sectors that are struggling here, and sectors that are prospering there; WHICH sectors struggle or prosper, changes with the tides.

>> No.21285902

>>21285647
She wants to tax all stock transactions

>> No.21285903
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21285903

Guys I've been doing really well this year.
Made $56,000 in the stock market.
But this means I'll owe the IRS over $12,000.
I'm an accountant, so I'm trying to think of every dirty trick in the book, but this amount is really high.

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>>21285812
I'll buy that for $17.

>>21285864
I'm glad I didn't buy that dip.

>> No.21285926

>>21285890
>never once beating the market in any circumstances is good goyim
>I enjoy 1% CAGR
>this is what we call WINNING
>100% FREE CAGR? I say, wow there, slow down molly!

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>>21285546
I like your style, man.

>> No.21285938

At this rate I hope it all burns so I can get in cheaper.

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>>21285811
How about one of the best comedies ever made?

>> No.21285955

How do they get away with calling that broad a person of color? I’m darker than she is and I’m white

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21285987

Any HCAC bros holdan on? Feelin good about this one

>> No.21285988

>>21285926
The guy asked about "set and forget", not speculative active trading. There's not a portfolio or fund on Earth that will let you "set and forget" that also returns daytradey gains.

>> No.21285990
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>>21285905
>>21285812
>coworker has 10 grand in physical silver
>asked him if he would sell now that spot price is at $30
>he tells me no he's sure it's going straight to $40

>> No.21286000
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>>21285903
All I know is one thing about the IRS. The more liberties you take filling out your taxes makes it more likely you end up audited.

Use your better judgement, but don’t try to pull a Bezos and pay nothing. You don’t have an army of lawyers to fight the entire IRS anon.

>> No.21286001

Any thoughts on SPAQ, is it trash or is Fisker going to be a big EV player in the next 10 years

>> No.21286003

>>21285988
OK deathbed boomer. I'll be over here enjoying my free, stable, guaranteed yearly 100% CAGR. You do you though.

>> No.21286017

>>21286001
Complete trash. Google it. The dirt is all out in the open now.

>> No.21286019

>>21286001
There are no big EV players, and there won't be for some time.

>> No.21286021

>>21285811
Margin Call

>> No.21286045

>>21285990
I have 500oz and I am not selling untill 100$ or I can trade during the boogaloo, held for 3 years mainly for preps along with guns, food ammo and lighters.

>> No.21286046

wonder what $MRNA is going to look like for the rest of the week

was literally thinking to myself today, "why did I hold past $90..." thank you based drumpf

>> No.21286047

>>21285890
2.5 leverage is empirically the optimal for leveraged bull index ETFs. You can't really get 2.5 so that is why all the major US ones are 2 or 3. TQQQ and SOXL are unironically the only leveraged funds that barely suffer any of the "problems" with leveraged vehicles (beta slippage for example).
If you believe that the market is still secular bull (which you do if you hold QQQ, SPY, etc.), then you should be going full on leverage. The only tradeoff is trying to avoid massive drawdowns with some sort of exit indicators. Which, for TQQQ, has already recovered and pushed new ATH with SOXL and SPXL not far behind.

>> No.21286058

>>21286001
EV is a scam

>> No.21286059

>>21285990
Did he have a good idea why it would go to $40 any time soon other than a vague inflation argument?

>> No.21286082

>>21286000
No, I'm not going to fake it. For example I'm not sure if I should start paying down my student loans (with Biden incoming). There is a max $2500 student interest deduction per year.

>> No.21286110

>>21285990
The problem with physical is even if it does hit $40 the odds of it staying there long enough for you to sell at that price are low. Judging by all past silver bull runs, you get max one week near the highs before it reverses back down. Maybe best way to sell physical silver is at as much premium as you can get during a parabolic move.

>> No.21286111

>>21285811
>>21285952
Floored is better than Trading Places
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--H8SY334Zw

Also princes of yen gives an insight into why Nikkei is the way it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Ac7ap_MAY

>> No.21286126

>>21286059
Gold:Silver ratio. Speculation Comex might go tits up. Inflationary environment with speculation that we might go into a NIRP modality. Treasuries have negative real yields. Nobody actually knows though.

>> No.21286127

>>21286017
What's the bad? All I can find is the cars are literally made out of trash lol and the VW deal looks to have fallen through while they found some other company toake there cars

>> No.21286128

>>21285903
If you had done it in a roth, you could have then used the funds for a first time home purchase, and then sold the house.

>> No.21286134

Should I pull out of the stock market and just rest for a few months. It’s just all so tiring

>> No.21286156

>>21285666
coomala... bears are forbidden to

>> No.21286173

>>21286134

If you’re in the red you could just leave it there and walk away for two months instead of actualizing a loss

>> No.21286176

The open interest on comex silver contracts is nuts for september. Whatever is going to happen to silver - up or down - will be decided then. Or at least that seems to be how the prevailing thinking is going.

>> No.21286217

>>21286176
Why though? Why did silver pump anyway?

>> No.21286263

>>21286134
no, just ride the spy wave, risk-free rates are 0 (ZERO), any joke of an investment is worthwhile as long as you have confidence it will be profitable.

>> No.21286265

I told you guys to start exiting your NASDAQ positions and start getting into unloved covid stocks (airlines, cruise lines, hotels) during the dips. If you ignored me your timing won't be perfect but it's not too late. Begin hedging into these sectors now or you'll miss the next major shift. Buy into dips at the very least, although there may not be many more left.

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>>21285952
Adding this to my watch list.

>>21286021
Saw it on a plane once actually, was pretty good.

>>21286111
I love documentaries! Haven't seen these two. Will watch. Thanks!

>> No.21286276

>>21286217
>Why did silver pump anyway?
Three things: 1. global demand from banks on precious metals has been high since mid 2018 or so. 2. USD is bearish because of the brrrr. 3. JP Morgan and Citibank got short squeezed on it.

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21286295

NET bros, was today a sign that we are coming back this week?

>> No.21286328

>>21286276
Make that four things: 4. Bond yields tanked so PMs became more desirable.

>> No.21286330

>>21286267
Wolf of Wall Street is ok also

>> No.21286360

>>21286267
here's an oldschool movie called Rollver, its not bad either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9d30RBJkf0

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>>21285536
>rekt


Tesla short bro? You still alive? Lmao

>> No.21286395

>>21286360
Added.

>>21286330
Oh, saw that. Was pretty amusing. I really loved more down to earth movies like The Big Short though.

Also, Tesla splitting 5:1? I don't know about that.. it ran up to $1,500 and now wants to split 5:1? I wouldn't be surprised if there was a major correction post-split to like $250.

>> No.21286411

>>21286265
Here is my post: >>/biz/thread/S20521330#p20522182

>You have anywhere from three to six weeks of sideways movement in covid stocks before their second bull run takes off. Talking cruise lines, air lines, and REITs. Anons should be selling NASDAQ positions on pumps and buying covid stocks on dips to prepare their folios accordingly.

Posted July 20th. My timing, as always, was perfect. I have not been back to this board since that post. Follow my advice and prosper. Good luck anons.

>> No.21286434

>>21286395
Yeah im the same way I like the more realistic stuff with some dramatic flare, WOWS was cartoony

>> No.21286438

>>21286173
I’m majorly in the green and have been since April but I’m starting to worry about a bubble with how ridiculous m my gains have been.

>> No.21286447

>>21286127
Fisker and family have routinely mishandled business in near-criminal ways and are hated far and wide. Employees claim the whole operation is weird and they haven't seen a single engineer (i.e. think nikola v2). Just to start.

>> No.21286473

>>21286047
Deep itm options can be used to achieve arbitrary leverage, including 2.5x.

>> No.21286486

>>21286001
The best EVs are street cars and electric trains.

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>>21286447
>Employees claim the whole operation is weird and they haven't seen a single engineer
yikes

>> No.21286519

>>21285536
People sleeping on the INCT dip

>> No.21286533

>>21286438

Then sell. Nothin wrong with taking profit and you should always trust your instinct

>> No.21286555

>>21286519
>being an unironic intcel this decade
lol

>> No.21286566

i know chinese stocks are very iffy. But i think BEKE is shaping up to be a massive IPO maybe not BIGC of LMND levels but maybe a little low or comparable to it

>> No.21286583

futures bleeding, going red soon

>> No.21286622
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>>21286583
It's ogre. NASDUMP is finished.

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>>21286519
It's been just a dip bro for five months anon, time to let it go.

>> No.21286665

>>21286622
newton was a virgin

>> No.21286673

>Futures

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.21286695

>>21286665

All great thinkers were virgins

>> No.21286701

>PEIX
>OPTT

Should I go all in on these tomorrow?

>> No.21286704
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21286704

This is bullshit. I didn't even FOMO. I bought calls almost a month ago, watched it crab every week, and suddenly it drops back to my entry point?

>> No.21286705

>>21286673
It hasn't gone below the days lows. Calm your tits

>> No.21286720

>>21285890
>>21286047
and wallah, just like that im going all in 40% TQQQ 40% SOXL 20% SPY on the next bigass pullback

>> No.21286736
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21286736

LMAO

>> No.21286759

>>21286704
This is interesting. A small pullback in SPY, but Gold and Silver just fucking tank. Maybe a sign of things to come?

>> No.21286767

How can I get started trading lean hogs

>> No.21286827
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>Gold almost down 10% from its ATH
1790-1820 looks so fucking good for a bounce, going for a trade overnight

>> No.21286857

>>21286759
>gold and silver tank
Uniornically BULLISH

>> No.21286873

>>21286704
Is /pmg/ right about COMEX defaulting?

>> No.21286882
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>>21286736
i literally bought the top of silver. oh well. at least it was only $500 and im fine holding boomer rocks

>> No.21286920

>>21286759
Treasury yields are climbing alongside DXY. AU/AG is too intractable, IMO. I'm stopping tomorrow.

>> No.21286935

>>21286411
Who are you mystical stock man?

>> No.21286940

>>21286882
Whatever my buying power ends up being tomorrow I’m putting it in AGQ. I don’t think the silver run is even close to over

>> No.21286944

>>21286873
Even in the worst case scenario where their predictions about them being unable to furnish their silver are true, they wouldn't run out until next month anyway.

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>>21286736
>what pattern is that
>fed go brrrrr

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>>21286940
cant wait to join you on the gains train after we pass $69

>> No.21286983

>>21286767
Set things up with your broker to traders futures contracts. Unless there is a lean hoggy etf of some kind, I dunno. You may pick up your hogs 'round back of the NYSE trading floor.

>> No.21286998

>>21286920
How in this universe can yields be climbing? They can't pay the interest. I guess in this world where the debt is 40 trillion the idea of borrowing even MORE money to cover interest raises is just business as usualy

>> No.21287004

>>21286970
>69
nice

>> No.21287008

>>21286920
Treasury yields are hovering at .64 like it was when the market closed. That shouldn't be the cause of this second massive dip.

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>>21286983
>NYSE trading floor.
*Chicago

Bet more on lean hogs with max leverage.

>> No.21287063

>>21286128
And paid property tax on owning it and taxes on the sale.

>> No.21287079

>>21286411
Why is this going to happen anyways? Is the virus going to be declared over and everything will open?

>> No.21287081

>>21286970
If not, I’ll see you on the other side bro

>> No.21287139

It's the same shit every time. I don't even get one day to consider getting out with my gains. Just a one day, casual, 25% drop in silver for no fucking reason at all.

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>>21286882
>>21286940
I'm considering pic related.

>> No.21287172

>>21286082
Well unless you're a government accountant and you're going to get that forgiven, you're a shifty accountant if you've let your loans continue to accrue interest and havent begun to pay them down. If its the former then enjoy the deferment for covid because it still counts towards your 10 year payoff date, if it is the latter, then youre larping and youre not an actual accountant. Fill a bag with a bunch of your old shirts and take it to goodwill. When they hand you the blank receipt write off a couple thousand and say it was furniture

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???

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>>21285536
GUYS I WENT ALL IN ON /LEANHOGS/
AAAAAAAAAA

>> No.21287330

So what are your plays for tomorrow? BEKE is looking nice

>> No.21287338

>>21287159
You think it’s going to keep dropping? Why? The dudes on PMG are saying it was Jewish tricks

>> No.21287351

>>21287181
>15$ put

fucks sake

>> No.21287352

>>21287139
When something goes up for no reason, it needs no reason to go down.

>> No.21287370

>>21287079
Oh I dunno about that. I think the virus will strike again hard and quick this fall/winter. All those kids in school, flu season rapidly approaching, colder weather. A perfect storm for the virus to play in.

>> No.21287374

>>21287330

Bought lci calls gonna sell them for 10-15 bucks more than I bought them for then sell covered calls and rebuy them the next day for cheaper than I sold them for.

>> No.21287399

>>21287079
virus isn't going anywhere, americans are fucking clueless. They don't understand the idea of a problem that can't be solved by shooting at it.

>> No.21287409

>>21286295
henlo fren, if you're in NET rn try not to think too short term. If it doesn't continue to grow sales around the pace that it is doing currently then prepare to get your kneecaps smashed.

>> No.21287415

>>21287352
There are plenty of reasons for gold and silver to go up, in fact trillions

>> No.21287425

>>21287338
Was there a sudden spike in demand for silver in industry or its popularity as jewellery spiked? Is there a sudden drop in supply? Is it just a speculative bubble blown out of proportion by a short squeeze? I don't know.

>> No.21287447

>gold and silver still taking a shit
hoooly fuck any leveraged longs has been liquidated. even as low as 4x margin. just over night. for silver
imagine seeing +1000% gains disappearing in a couple of hours while you're out or something, but not only disappearing also initial gone to $0
lmao

>> No.21287458

>>21287415
There are two potential reasons: supply and demand.

>> No.21287488

>>21287425
You can't find coins anywhere that aren't insanely marked up anymore. Literally billions of dollars of silver contract bought up today. The demand is real. It's pure price manipulation.

>> No.21287506

>>21287447
imagine "investing" in something whose value is solely determined by people's feefees

>> No.21287508

>>21287447
It's stupid but you can't fight it, only go with the flow.

>> No.21287535

>>21287488
I guess I'll just keep watching from the sidelines. I don't really know much about the silver market.

>> No.21287537

>>21287458
>>21287488
I'll believe in the 88 dubs.

>> No.21287552

Can someone post the dividends every week pic?

>> No.21287580

>>21286447
Fuck ok

>> No.21287590

Broke even with silver. Should have sold earlier. Anything I should reinvest in?

>> No.21287617

>>21287590
silver

>> No.21287622

>>21287590
books

>> No.21287627
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>>21287552

>> No.21287637
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>>21287590
copper

>> No.21287663

>>21287330
Optt

>> No.21287666

>>21287617
stfu faggot. You can't win when the Jews are working against you.

>> No.21287673
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>>21287399
Ahh yes, and im sure eurofags from toothpaste flag countries know everything there is to know about microbiology and rna based viruses.

>> No.21287677

>>21287663
Why?

>> No.21287691

>>21287508
>silver
>flow
silver is in such absolute control and manipulation by banks, you had no idea. because of the stupid paper market. they can do anything they want with silver futures.
no, silver is not going up because construction worker decided to go buy physical silver.
all this movement, all it does is purely this: moving enough in either direction that pays the most, by knocking out all longs and shorts.
no actual silver is transacted anywhere here... literally just banks moving the silver futures contracts to destroy retails that buy them and don't sell fast enough, or any leveraged position

>> No.21287700

>tfw AMZN will probably never do a stock split

it hurts

>> No.21287726
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>>21285536
>August 11 2020
I am forgotten

>> No.21287744
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>>21287726
>tfw sold at breakeven point at 6.79 after bagholding red for 2 months
hurts just a lil bit

>> No.21287751

>>21285811
Boiler room

>> No.21287762

The COMEX defaulting is just a dumb boomer power fantasy. People have been crying imminent doomsday on it for the past decade.

Silver is headed back to $18 imminently. Cap this.

Don't bet against the house.

>> No.21287765

>>21287488
I wonder if the futures market is being driven by fears of a force majeure, if they force rollover instead of delivery you may be stuck bagholding worthless contracts

>> No.21287782

>>21287627
Thanks fren

>> No.21287801

>>21287008
Lines up pretty good. Doesn't help that Trump didn't sign in EOs, but memorandums, and we've yet to hear about further stimulus from Congress. Furthermore the DXY is slowly moving up. Probably helps that people are cascade selling, downward momentum.

>>21287079
Lots of money was in treasuries and bonds, yields moving into negative territory in real terms. All the liquidity that could be squeezed from that has been, and injected into equities. Those equities are largely in tech. When a vaccine is confirmed we'll see a big rotation, presumably a fast one. It's going to be turbulent as fuck across the whole market. I think financials and REITs are going to be shit territory until the market picks winners, they've swept a lot of bad news under the rug.

>> No.21287820

>>21287506

The entire market is largely determined by everyone’s feeling and sentiment on any given day.

>> No.21287835

>>21287447
I was literally taking a nap. When I woke up, I was 10% down already. I sprang up from my bed and closed my positions before I got liquidated.

>> No.21287836

>>21287425
There’s been a demand in silver ever since corona which is why jews are flipping about coins in circulation.
There’s a huge demand for silver and tiday was likely some Jewish price manipulation to get people to fold.
Gold has an inverse correlation to the dollar and silver lags gold. Gold has mooned and silver is starting its bull run.
I’m not selling that shit until $100/oz spot. Do or die

>> No.21287878

Silver rise and correction is from an absolutely legendary short squeeze from JPM and C. Still secular bull market for PMs.

>> No.21287927

>>21287677
Pnd getting traction above a buck and had some completely retarded article say they expect it to go 1200% or something but regular analysts estimate 6 or so

>> No.21287930
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can the doombull or other doombull enthusiasts explain to me what the fuck TMF is? and why isnt he doing TQQQ/SOXL, but only TQQQ?

>> No.21287943

>>21285666
is this a japanese pun?

>> No.21287953

>>21285625
Commies fucked my shorts banning selling. Lucky I had shorts on thighland.

>> No.21287954

>>21287370
The virus will cease to exist if Biden wins

>> No.21287955

>>21287762
>Silver is headed back to $18 imminently
probably more than likely
everyone thinks this is physical silver going up in value, when the real situation is silver contracts/paper being moved by banks to steal dumb retail money buying silver derivatives

>> No.21287959

>>21287506
That's pretty much everything, aside from your own personal sentimental value.

>> No.21287981

>>21287181
$15 put? why?

>> No.21287985

>>21287930
Do your own thing that you feel comfortable with and understand.

>> No.21287990

>>21286447
What else is there I almost bought this shit

>> No.21288000
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>>21287835
>taking a nap during market hours
What do you think this is some kind of joke? You wanna play with the big boys don’t ya? Eyes on the market at ALL TIMES don’t even blink, clockwork orange your eyelids just to be safe If you have to, then maybe JUST MAYBE you’ll make it outa here in one piece jack!

>> No.21288051
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ZS...L

>> No.21288068

>>21287930
I do qqq/spy/soxx mix at 3-1-1 ratios for my etf portion. W/ leverage somehow of course

On top of that I do picking for rest with mixed results. Still mainly tech on the picks.

>> No.21288082

>>21287820
wrong
>>21287959
wrong

stocks have intrinsic value (cash-flow producing asset)

>> No.21288103

>>21285536
HINOKAMI KAGURA!
/a/ here. Tanjiro best boy.

>> No.21288116
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I wasn't here earlier. How did we react to the Tesla stock split, and is there any chance of Apple falling below 400 before or 100 after split? I got in before the blowout earnings report but I'd had to see my entire gains lost because of a slow bleed out.

Also, MSFT sucks

>> No.21288134

>>21286447
But it's Fisker's insistence its solid-state battery technology works, the secrecy around it, and how much the company is reliant on it coming to fruition that calls into question the entire company, not just the car

Probably a scam

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>>21287943
yes

>> No.21288188

>>21288068
This is for a long haul investment portfolio. but yeah semis + tech is the juicy area for non boomers.

Bonds have been in a mega bull run for a long time. Tmf probably has less of a chance to perform as historic vs tqqq. Tqqq has high risks too but its hard to imagine tech completely getting crushed. The march sell off in tech was largely idiocy.

>> No.21288207

>>21286447
>Employees claim the whole operation is weird and they haven't seen a single engineer

Source:
Dude trust me

>> No.21288222

>>21287954
I read a post somewhere either here or maybe /pol/ saying dems and media will probably start counting covid numbers from date of election if Biden wins. Something like 'only x number of cases since Biden won' or 'only x number of cases since Biden took office'.

>> No.21288225

>>21288116
MSFT and Goog will perform someday

>> No.21288252

>>21288222
Nah it just wont exist

It will be nonstop coverage of how water is safe and air is clean now that biden added 500 regulations and re entered paris accord

>> No.21288300

>>21288222
Pretty much everything will be fixed magically once biden is president

Probably a large psychological bull run. Dont be long the usd.

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hehehe

there stock named UFO

>> No.21288333

>>21288116
So what if after the split apple is 100 or 112 per share. It won't stay that way long. Your value don't change. You dumped 9000 into it before split, you still have 9000 worth after split. But since it's cheap as hell now the buying spree begins. So your gains will be epic. In 2014 apple was 600 per. They split the stock. Stock went down to 100 per. Well here we are 6 years later. Stock is over 400.. This time will be no different. Other than due to things all fucked up now it may not take long before 300 is back on the menu.

>> No.21288381

>>21288300
>Pretty much everything will be fixed magically once biden is president
First, he's not going to make it. Second, if he did, excess deaths and early deaths can't be easily swept under the carpet.

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>>21285536
>no more garbage anime
I don't get why you posted normie shit then

>> No.21288395

>>21287930
TMF is treasury yields and is support to offset the dips in TQQQ.
You can set it up however you want like this anon >>21288068
I do TQQQ + AGQ + individuals

>> No.21288402

>>21288222
>/pol/is already accepting a biden victory

lmao it's that bad huh

>> No.21288412

>>21288082
You're so fucking out of it if you're not trolling. Look at Zoom. It's literally a refresh of MSN Messenger, tech that was available previously for free with Windows. It has a $65bn market cap it's currently trading at a 1452 P/E ratio. AMD's P/E is 131. People are effectively voting that AMD and ZM are both worth an insane multiple of their earnings. If you want to dig deeper, look at FRED:CP, which shows after-tax earnings for companies plateaued in 2012, yet equities have been on the rise since the Great Recession. This is due, in part, to buybacks and 401k's inflating prices alongside increasing investor capital. But a good deal of it is raw faith, emotion. If you're a trader at a desk you're controlling vast quantities of wealth on a daily basis, and you're subject to emotions and stress just like anybody else. You make the wrong call and blow up you're fucking blacklisted. Likewise individual investors can blow themselves up, and they're playing with fewer cards. And then there's gamblers, some of them can move the fucking needle.

How do you think a PnD works? This shit is all about salesmanship, not numbers. Nobody has ever priced a stock.

>> No.21288419

>>21288222
That shits so funny I'm sure that's exactly what will happen.

>> No.21288421

>>21288333
Spotted the "virus pal" poster

>> No.21288446

>>21288402
>biden victory
Followed by his inevitable illness that makes him step down in favor black woman president that the left has been salivating for

>> No.21288455
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Political affiliation has a huge effect on market sentiment. Dems had hugely negative views on coronavirus since march while repubs had bullish.

The psychological impact on market will be real. Considering how much a dem sweep will impact markets a large portion will be because of mmt lite theories aka massive spending.

So ignore the bearish tendency and ride another wave of mega stimulus and inflation.

>> No.21288460

Any TSM holder been in since before it was 60? God I wish that were me.

>> No.21288483

>>21288402
Nah when you see people talking about x happening its in relation to understanding how to invest via that possibility.

Its still undecided.

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>bought SLV at 25.99
>is not at 23.33 with silver futures down -7%

give it to me straight lads, ride it out or cut losses?

>> No.21288513

>>21285811
Gay niggers from outerspace

>> No.21288555

>>21288455
I think tech still holds a good position if dem sweep.

Inflation
Massive spending

Even if they break up instagram off fb its more noise than impact on qqq holders. Tech wont be impacted in a way besides stern lecturing.

>> No.21288573

>>21288508
potentially end for this gold/silver retard strength pump, once europe opens tomorrow (in 2-6 hours) and liquidates literally millions $ in silver derivates/paper contracts

>> No.21288580

>>21288412
If AMD grows 30%/year for the next 5 years then that P/E looks very justifiable, that's the bet people seems to be making, the issue is the market is always forward-looking.

>> No.21288632

>>21288580
what's most important, if you look "forward enough" you should look for the intrinsic value of the company, that is, its capacity to generate cashflow.
What do you look "forward to" when you buy silver? More people FOMOing into silver, nothing else, there nothing there, it's literal fairy dust.

>> No.21288666

>>21288421

ONTX/fat green bags anon is probably the weirdest and funniest guy here

>> No.21288671
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NVDA is the shit.

>> No.21288679

Reminder to exit out of most positions by late spetember to buy the dips from boomers that think it matters which tint of orange boomer is in the WH

>> No.21288696

>>21288632
It's a finite resource with industrial applications, just like any resource if the supply is exhausted and demand remains, the pricing necessarily falls into the possessor's favor. Even supply constriction has favorable benefits to the seller side.

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https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1292860483435999233

Ohhh, fuck...

>> No.21288716

>>21285987
Who’s this semen demon?

>> No.21288717

>>21288580
(btw obviously I mean growth in earnings)

>> No.21288742

>>21286473
yes but then you have to worry about theta decay, massive bid ask spreads, rolling every 2 years, taxes, etc.

>> No.21288753

>>21288679
I dont see a big move
stocks will love the spending and inflation

>> No.21288765

>>21288706
>March 2021

>> No.21288800

When is big tech bubble bursting?

>> No.21288802

>>21288765
>>21288706
My dca is 424. Guess I'm fucked, huh.

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For me, it's TQQQ on open.

>> No.21288804

>>21288455
>republicans doubted the obama recovery for 8 years
>Dems doubted the trump economy
Kek political cücks btfo

>> No.21288811

>>21288765

If AAPL drops 20% over the next 9 months that would be really fucking bad no matter how you slice it.

>> No.21288812

>>21288580
Are you trying to defend your position or are you capitulating to the fact that feelings determine pricing? 'Cause that's what we call feelings, the market at large voted that AMD will perform on feelings. There are no models to show 30% YoY growth for 5 consecutive years with any reasonable confidence. People can hardly be expected to make quarterly estimates.

>> No.21288825

>>21288753
Boomers always temporarily selloff near elections because they think that which boomer is in the WH matters any more. It will happen again this year. Red team boomer will print money for corporate welfare. Blue team boomer will print money for social welfare. To be boomer is to be a printer of money. You don't need to pick yourself up by your bootstraps if you can just print stairs.

>> No.21288827

>>21288696
In the absence of paper silver, that would be true.

>> No.21288861

>>21288800
After the singularity

Its not a bubble. They have performed.

>> No.21288902

>>21288861
Note: there are hype bubble tech stocks, but overall tech has delivered growth and revenue. The idea say facebook is nothing but bubble hype is retarded. It has a decent pe but nothing crazy

>> No.21288916

>>21288803
i mean SQQQ fuck

>> No.21288970

DAMN IT
Silver is just the shitcoin of PMs isn’t it? I blew it by not getting out early.

>> No.21288977

>bought WKHS at the top
>bought TSM at the top
>bought NET at the top
>bought RKT at the top

am i retarded? at least i'm still +16.6% over the last 3 months...

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>>21288800
Soon.

>> No.21289006

>>21287953
>shorts on thighland
Hmmmm

>> No.21289072

>>21288970
scroll out, you could easily be bagholding for years, possibly decades

>> No.21289162

>>21289072
Only if you bought paper.

>> No.21289210

I'm a cryptotard who knows fuck all about stocks.
Is MRNA a good buy?

>> No.21289222

Well I'm off to bed. Gotta go into the office tomorrow. Even though I am "semi retired" now I still gotta show my face around once and a while you know. Least they think I'm dead. Just think 11 - 12 more years from now I'll be retired for real all the way..

>> No.21289237

>>21289162
Funny joke doomer. The shiff organization thanks you for paying the suckers premium for real rocks

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>>21288803
>>21288916

>> No.21289314

>>21289210
fuck no

>> No.21289337

>>21287801
>they've swept a lot of bad news under the rug.
Explain?

>> No.21289347

>>21289072
Your short finally paid off, huh?

Yeah that’s why I’m concerned I didn’t get out early. It tends to follow gold up, even lead it up, and then drop back down immediately.

If this was a blowoff top, I’m not going to be a happy guy.

>> No.21289371

What the point of investing when dumbass zoomers have made thousands of dollars on dumbass shit like zoom and Etsy

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>>21289264
Nice selfie!

>> No.21289444
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>>21289371
Don't you want to get yours?

>> No.21289483

>>21289371
Those dumbasses might never make a profit again, while investing with due diligence will profit over and over.

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>>21289347
All 3 of my silver shorts were closed within 24 hours each profiting. This is the power of the segment BB, do not underestimate the power of the God move again.
Now if youll excuse me, I have to go manically laugh in the middle of the street

>> No.21289572

Things rarely pump for long it looks like. I keep seeing big green and think its gonna go up more so I dont sell but so far its usually been a one time pump then shit never goes that high again.

>> No.21289587

>>21289542
So is silver gonna keep going down? I was gonna buy puts after I sold my calls on Monday but wasn’t totally sure if it was the right move.

>> No.21289588
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>silver

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>>21289397
I'm down 18% since august 5th so fair enough

>> No.21289602

>>21289371
Thousands of dollars is worthless. You want a series of good returns to beat spy returns. Id rather be a solid longterm investor or trader than hit one 10x and underperform spy after

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Jesus FUCKING christ

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>>21289588
THIS FEEL
...I know it

>> No.21289653

>>21289615
I am LIVID that I didn’t buy SLV puts on Monday. Will it keep dumping to justify buying puts tomorrow?

>> No.21289663

>>21289644
Once again, I got arrogant and didn't sell when I was up 300% and now i'm regretting it

>> No.21289667

>>21289615
I missed shorting it. Shit sucks. Thought it might be a week or two from now.

>> No.21289706
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21289706

Now this

This is real

This is value

This is money

Semi chips? Tech? Nahh

>> No.21289735
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Should I just cut my losses and sell all my SILJ and GDXJ tomorrow morning?

>> No.21289738

>>21285536
>>21285536
DFEN OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.21289741

>>21289667
Same. I literally could have shorted the top for once. What’s worse is not knowing if it’ll keep dumping, so you do nothing, only to watch it keep dumping.

>> No.21289777

>>21289741
I had no real reason to be aggressive about it. Dont mind missing it at all. Thought the momentum was stronger

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>>21288382

Demon Slayer is a quality anime. Despite what you say about it being “normie shit.”

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>>21285536
Just got home and checked my broker, i'm finished. I went all in on SLV calls. You faggots did this to me.

>> No.21289806

Hey guys, uh
>Moderna is gonna moon
>>21287181
and so is this guy

>> No.21289808

I have AAPL calls and SLV puts how am I doing tomorrow?

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>>21289397
Hey buddy? Did you graduate off the small bus today?

>> No.21289928

Thread is dead af. Did today wipe that many ppl out?

>> No.21289952

>>21289928
if it wasn't for the fact that I have to work tomorrow I would have gotten blackout drunk

>> No.21289959

Guys I don't understand taxes. I did until I realized my stock market money is making it so I qualify for nothing. I can't even get a student loan interest reduction now.

>> No.21289962

>>21289735
I don't know. I know it's going to be extremely painful (4me). I bought wayyyyy too much SILJ. And even too much large-cap gold miners.

>>21289795
I would agree, though I haven't watched either of the Druaga shows

>> No.21289980

Honestly what were you thinking investing money into shiny rocks lmao cmon man

>> No.21290017

Techs go up, plz?

>> No.21290027

>>21290017
No.

>> No.21290028

>loaded to the tits on tech

What should I diversify to now that tech is dumping?

>> No.21290105

>>21290028
Lean hogs

>> No.21290125

Maybe firearms stonks start to moon thanks to Kamala.

>> No.21290155

Fuck it, Im still gonna buy more aapl so I can get that hundo stocks

>> No.21290183

>>21290028
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/CME-HEV2021/

You'll thank me later.

>> No.21290190

What are we even gonna buy tomorrow bros? Going long on airlines/cruises I think.

>> No.21290222

>>21290190
SLV puts

>> No.21290232

>>21290190
Go all in on silver

>> No.21290234

>>21288802
What about the split?

>> No.21290257

>>21290190
SLV calls at EoD

>> No.21290275

RKT bros we might be getting a dividend soon

>> No.21290280

>>21290257
Why do you think it will stop dumping on Thursday ?

>> No.21290301

anyone buying banks or airlines again?

>> No.21290326

>>21290301
people who watch cramer are

>> No.21290396

>>21290326
>people who watch cramer
So boomers and gen X

>> No.21290403

>>21290301
I bought a little bit of JPM in pre market this morning. Hopefully this week hasn't just been a meme.

>> No.21290408

>>21290396
i might buy some to but appple and tesla stock split ruined my plans. So yea

>> No.21290420

>yes ill trade in these tech stocks for some oil and a big buildings milking boomers social security with loud boxes that have basic unfun games on them

>> No.21290471

>>21287063
What taxes? You sell the same month that's no taxable income. You just lose 6% on realtors.

>> No.21290503

>>21290027
Yes?

>> No.21290520

How long should I hold these SQQQ calls?

>> No.21290555

>>21290326
i made 40k in 2 weeks in june

>>21290403
yeah i cant decide. C should be easy money.

>> No.21290579

>>21290520
Yes

>> No.21290590

>>21290555
by watching cramer?

>> No.21290605

>>21287409
Well I have a bunch of $39 calls so it fucking better pump by end of week

>> No.21290615

>>21290503
Rotation #xx is in effect. If you are in tech you have to be aware this trade idea is extremely popular and will constantly hit tech through 2021.

You have to ride the longer trend and be patient. Alternatively trim and be buying dips etc.

Its not gonna be smooth.

>> No.21290619

BAKING

>> No.21290634

>>21290579
ty

>> No.21290637

MRNA moon?

>> No.21290674

>>21290605

Looking like it will end 37-38 this week anon.

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Is NVDA a good buy now, frens?

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Because I might sell by then.