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1825888 No.1825888 [Reply] [Original]

Why haven't you bought Ethereum yet?

>> No.1825890

Because my bitcoins are in cold storage at my parents' house. I'll get them in a week and maybe put 0.05 BTC into Ethereum.

>> No.1825891

I have like 20 coins somewhere

>> No.1825895
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What to expect...

>> No.1825897

>>1825895
Buy high sell low lmao

>> No.1825911

>>1825888
Because like gold, land, and silver, cryptocurrencies aren't real assets

>> No.1825912

>>1825890
>falling for the cold storage meme
it's almost like you want to get wiped out in the next crash.

>> No.1825916

>>1825888
Are there any "dapps" I can use right now?

>> No.1825918

>>1825897
every time lmao

>> No.1825919

>>1825911
By Kiyosaki's definition, you're right.

>> No.1825923

>>1825911
>>1825919
I read your post wrong, too drunk. You're still right.

>> No.1825933

>>1825919
>>1825923
What is an asset to you?

>> No.1825936

>>1825897
>>1825918
Went up to over 16 - gained on first day. I'm in for a long run. Maybe several years.

>> No.1825940

>>1825933
I already corrected my concern, but since you asked. An asset is anything that has value. Cash, current value of investments, even a car. To me, an asset is anything that can be converted into cash, which is the ultimate medium. The value of the asset is both related to current value and liquidity. Do you have a different definition? I'm talking about personal finance btw

>> No.1825942

>>1825936
Ah, to be young again

>> No.1825944

>>1825912
I srsly hope youre trolling or you dont know what cold storage is

going on 3 years strong here

>> No.1825955

>>1825940
My definition is more like Kiyosaki's.

>> No.1825965

>>1825955
Sure. An asset is anything that contributes positively to your net worth(or equity in business terms)

Kiyosaki's definition is wrong - that an asset is something that creates more money. In business, cash is considered an asset. You will find zero companies that don't work that way. In personal finance, it should be also.

>> No.1825969

I just sold today after buying in at around $12. Made a good profit, around $125. Might buy again if I see it dip, I see no reason for it to go any higher because it looks like it's found itself a ceiling.

>> No.1825973

>>1825969
There is no ceilings on the moon, friend.

>> No.1825987

>>1825888
It's not too late to learn about Ethereum: https://youtu.be/-SMliFtoPn8

>> No.1825996

>>1825987
oh give it up

>> No.1826040

>>1825987
What's with everyone memeing this video?

>> No.1826057

>>1826040
Shill. That's all it is. Didn't even watch it yet.

>> No.1826075

>>1826040
>>1826057
I finally watched it. Everything, regardless of medium, eventually boils down to CASH. Different translations of it don't matter. These are all a gamble.

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1826077

Reddit was watching the EEA webcast

>> No.1826082

>>1826077
Microsoft, Intel, banks form Enterprise Ethereum blockchain alliance
Microsoft is expanding on its Azure Blockchain-as-a-Service work by joining the new Enterprise Ethereum Alliance, along with Intel and a number of leading banks.

>> No.1826134

>>1825895
damn lol, this really made me realize how far ETH has come. I remember getting hundreds of ETH for the same dollar amount.

>> No.1826287

There are a few reasons I haven't invested in Ethereum.

>it was premined
>vitalik sold off a large portion of his coins early on
>smart contracts are a meme
>total coin supply isn't written in stone like Bitcoin
>moving to proof of stake could be a disaster
>protocol development is wreckless
>vitalik asked exchanges to halt trading after the DAO
>the hard fork after the DAO destroyed the blockchain's immutability

Saying that yes I do regret not buying into the ico and I do regret not buying the 2 big dips,I think Ethereum has a future but it won't replace Bitcoin.

>> No.1826307 [DELETED] 

Someone redpill me on ETH
I am considering buying $50,000-$100,000 worth of it.
How would I even go about something like this? And could I cash it back once I decided I made a good profit?
I have a lot of disposable income, I am currently investing into real estate but it's slow and boring. I want to be a shark investor but 99% of startups are retarded. So I might as well try cripto-currency, I still regret I was poor back when BTC just started

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Someone redpill me on ETH
I am considering buying $50,000-$100,000 worth of it.
How would I even go about something like this? And could I cash it back once I decided I made a good profit?
I have a lot of disposable income, I am currently investing into real estate but it's slow and boring. I want to be a shark investor but 99% of startups are retarded.
So I might as well try crypto-currency, I still regret I was poor back when BTC just started

>> No.1826312

>>1826307
Just buy some. Put like $20k in. You will always regret not going all in when it goes to the moon but you could end up a multi millionaire when ethereum becomes bigger than bitcoin which it surely will

>> No.1826320

>>1826312
investing $100k wouldn't hurt me
My biggest concern is how to buy that much ETH and how would I cash it once it's worth millions?

>> No.1826329

>>1826320
you spread it out over a couple of days ofcourse, buying 100k worth of eth wouldn't put a dent in it. ~$40m is being traded daily.

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>>1825888
Because bitmex collateral has got to be in bitcoin. Also bitcoin is on a long uptrend, while eth is *maybe* "reversing" from a long downtrend.

Would be cool with holding some eth if I could trade xbt futures with it, don't think that's possible though.

>> No.1826347

>>1826287
>total coin supply isn't written in stone like Bitcoin
So it's basically a blockchain fiat

>moving to proof of stake could be a disaster
What's wrong with proof of stake?

>> No.1826348

>>1825888
Eth is a dead party, cant event make 200% ROI in short term. Best bet is Iconomi coin, already made 500% ROI and it will hit 5$ mark til sumer easily. My friend is affiliated with the development team, and I know what their ambitions are.

>> No.1826351

>>1826347
>What's wrong with proof of stake?

It hasn't been implemented yet. Eth already suffered a couple of exploits due to flaws in the design last year.

Switching from PoW to PoS can prove potentially catastrophic. In fact I'm personally counting on it: Once casper starts looking like more than vapor, buy. Once casper is actually released, sell. Once the bugs, forks and dumps begin, sell.

>> No.1826352

>>1826287
>written in stone
>implying bitcoin total supply couldn't be easily changed with a soft fork.

>at least ETH developers don't try to bullshit you and pull the wool over your eyes

>> No.1826354

>>1826351
Kek. Meant buy at the end.

>> No.1826359

>>1826311
How does someone like you end up with that much disposable income?
By the way you type I assume you're between 20-24 and below average intelligence

>> No.1826360

im selling now, on the basis of a pullback to around ~0.011 or below in the near future, then picking up some more for the empty hype that will start building in a few months.

>> No.1826386

>>1826348
What is Iconomi anyway?

>> No.1826392

>>1826386
shitcoin "fund" run by a bunch of amateur "investors" from some random eastern european country.

>> No.1826414

I've been mining ethereum for a while but for the past two days my current hashrate is literally ZERO.

Can someone help me out on why this is happening all of a sudden? I was mining just fine on an RX480 previously.

>> No.1826505
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1826505

What did they mean by this?

>> No.1826525

>>1825912
How is it a meme? It's a safe, secure, and long-term method of holding cryptos. I recently checked the wallet's address, and my coins are still there after 2 years. In fact, I'm planning on putting the Ether I purchase into a paper wallet.

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>>1825888
Putting $50 in it biweekly. Dollar cost averaging bros

>> No.1826533

>>1826505
It's just showing the reality of the world economy not warped by dollar manipulation

>> No.1826537

already rode btc from 300 to 1200
made 10x since last May, waiting for the dip.
taking my time off for a month of two.
it has been quite stressful

>> No.1826540

>>1826505
Kek
>Bitcoin is manipulated by the evil Chinks! They're manipulating it!

You've seen nothing yet. Lube up and take the yellow dick up your ass.

>> No.1826541

>>1826537
I feel bad for not making extra profit if this booms again
but I just can't, I look at the money I've made and I'm quite content.

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>>1826537
I am new to coins and trading generally. I have to look every few minutes how the price went. How do I just chill

>> No.1826556

>>1826549
same, I just can't do it anymore for a month at least, I have to chill, take some vacations or something.

every single second I look at the charts, I just can't

I'm open for ridicule here

>>1826551

>> No.1826559

>>1826549
I caught couple dips on a row, and I just can't sleep anymore all I'm thinking( this is the time you're gonna go bust, this is it ), I can't.
I'm drinking whiskey right now and smoking just to keep my nerves calm.

>> No.1826564

pick an entry, pick an exit, and find out what % you're prepared to lose on every trade, and then set your stop loss. do this for every trade.

>> No.1826569

>>1826564
>>1826549
>>1826556

>> No.1826579

>>1826564
I could sell my ETH right now with making a little bit profit.
/biz/ is really not helping. The memeing goes from ETH is total shit and finished to it's the future and will go to the moon.

If I just never started with this.

>> No.1826589

>>1826579
But it gives you content and feels

What else do you want from life?

>> No.1826602

>>1826589
peace of mind for at least a week? I want to go a full week without thinking about charts, and opening bitcoinwisdom

at least for a week

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>>1826589
You are right actually.

Btw when is a new Bitcoin dip to expect? 1,226$ now..

>> No.1826614

>>1826604
no idea, this is uncharted territory

>> No.1826621

>>1826602
Once in the game, always in the game. I know I wouldn't last long if I weren't able to act on coins, prediction markets and who knows what else

>> No.1826665

>>1826621
>Once in the game, always in the game.
true that :/
I need to throw my mac,smartphone and laptop away for a week. I'm fucking addicted, go somewhere with no signal.

>> No.1826675

>>1826579
if youre looking for considerable gains youll be waiting a long time if not forever to get them from ethereum. it already did its 10-15x move last year and its unlikely to make another like it any time soon due to all the bagholders from the last 6 months. so either get out now or be prepared to wait a few months to get anything worthwhile out of it.

>> No.1826682

>>1826675
>what is 2011-2013
>what is 10 to 50, then back to 20 again
>what is 20 to 100, then 100 to 1000

>> No.1826703

>>1826675
What do you recommend for at least 3x gains?

>> No.1826722

Ethereum was something great that failed hard because of Redditor SJW shit involving that DAO catastrophe. It simply can't ever recover. I don't care, I made my money off it.

>> No.1826743

>>1826604
>>1826614
>>1825888

The first time btc hit 1000 USD people were skeptical, then it dipped hard down to 100 USD. Now years later it's back at where it once were - causing investors to trust the currency more than ever. Btc will drop at 1500, down to 1000, then slowly up to 2000 by May.

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>>1826743
>2000 by May

>> No.1826763

Is there gonna be another chance to get in at $15.50 or should I just buy now before it goes above $16 and keeps going?

>> No.1826773

Where can I get Ethereum in central europe without paying a high ammount of fees. I'm talking about a small investment of 25-30 coins?

>> No.1826784

>>1826773
Kraken

>> No.1826789

>>1826763
I made a small purchase this morning, its not too late, its very likely we'll see it rise to $20.00 over the next week and few days. I wouldn't count out a trip to the moon with it either. Then again its middle ground right now at 15 bucks. If you can afford to lose 20-30% of that investment do it. that's the worst that can happen here at this point.

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>>1826750
Saved for later.

>> No.1826795

>>1826784
What sort of payment does kraken accept?

>> No.1826804

>>1826795
Stop being dumb and asking to be spoonfed you weak, pathetic yuro.

>> No.1826808

>>1826804
What race and nationality are you?

>> No.1826813

>>1826784
>>1826795
Kraken is good. SEPA transaction is free, Wire transfer costs 5€. It's surprisingly cheap to trade Ethereum. If I got this right I only pay 0.005ETH for a withdrawal.

>> No.1826814

>>1826808
White, american.

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>>1826813
thx

>>1826814
>you.jpg

>> No.1826831

Coinbase wont Verify my ID

Anyone else have this problem? What do

>> No.1826833

>>1826831
It takes a while.

>> No.1826838

>>1826823
You are new to 4chan, arent you?

>> No.1826840

>>1826813
Also minimum deposit is 50€

>>1826831
Took a week for me at Kraken. Be calm and contact support after a few days.

>> No.1826847

>>1826833
Ive uploaded it with crystal clear pics 20+ times with my galaxy s7

What the fuck. Im so anxious and frustrated

>> No.1826852

what the fuck is wrong with you people ALWAYS buying the top. oooooh ETH is up 100%, better buy now right guys??? mega kek

>> No.1826853

>>1825888

Because its another failed pump and dump

>> No.1826863

>>1826790
Its on then. May 1st, around this time. We shall see.

>> No.1826868

>>1826853
Its failed only when you didnt made any money off it ;)

>>1826852
shhh let them buy

>> No.1826876

>>1826847
What did the support say?

>> No.1826888
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1826888

Currently mining with 500MH

>> No.1826894

>>1826876
So far they sent 2 bot emails for ID picture taking troubleshooting when each time I specified my problem

Now its been 2 days since my last email saying the same exact thing hopefully no bots

Who knows... I'm military and my USA ID is from a different state than my reported home address, PLUS right now im living in germany so their website is probably saying NOPE because im on a German IP address even though I changed the country to USA and uploaded a US valid license.

Fucking garbage system. Ask for my social instead for ducks quake. Who the FUCK can upload a clear picture on a webcam.

>> No.1826913

>>1826888
Nice. I'm at 9MH just for fun. I consider buying two RX480 but it would take months to amortize them. What pool and software do you use?


>>1826894
I am in Germany either and they wanted a Tier 3 verification at Kraken. They want this for Japan either. Took a week. I'm sure they will accept within the next days especially when you stay in contact with the support. Keep calm.

>> No.1826937

I bought $500 worth at $15.97

did I do good?

>> No.1826971

What are good sites besides garbage Coinbase to but ETH and Bitcoins

EMphasis on the word GARBAGE

>> No.1826976

>>1826971
I use Gemini exchange but don't know if that's only a USA thing. They weren't affected by the coinbase and other exchange hacks.

>> No.1826985

>>1826937
gotta start somewhere

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>>1825888

Make online poker great again with Ethereum technology.

https://medium.com/@jacelace/poker-is-the-killer-app-for-blockchains-ea2e6b88815c#.2buv004e8

>> No.1827009

>>1825888
What can I expect my returns to be if I buy 5 ETH in 5 days?

>> No.1827017

>>1826863
No, by May 31st.

>> No.1827064

I estimate there's about a 25% chance of a moonshot. Maybe 60% chance it stays under $100 for the foreseeable future. 15% or less chance it tanks and you lose it all. Those odds are well worth the gamble in my mind. The most likely scenario is I make a modest profit. With the recent industry backing we've seen, the odds of losing my ass get slimmer and slimmer by the day. Worst case...maybe 50% loss. That's a bad weekend in Vegas for me. I can live with that. Especially given the upshot if it indeed ushers in crypto 2.0 and I retire in my 30's.

>> No.1827068

15,25€ TO THE MOOON

>> No.1827090

>>1827002
How do people make money off of dapps? Once the client is built do they have any server costs? Or know anything about what's going on?

>> No.1827092

Kraken just bought Cryptowatch. Is this good or bad?

>> No.1827110

Why should I. I doubled my investment with Dash.

>> No.1827117

>>1827090

http://decypher.tv/series/ethereum-development

>> No.1827588

>>1827092
Why would it be bad? Just solidifies Kraken as the top dog. Heh and I remember some retard 2 years back saying Kraken is too late to the exchange game and they will never be exceptional.

>> No.1827748

to the moooooon

>> No.1827767

holy shit it just keeps going up.

>> No.1827775

Ooooo bbb, everyone strapped in?

>> No.1827778
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It's going and going

>> No.1827784
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>>1827778
Coinbase has it only at 17.31

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1827856

Friendly reminder to sage and ignore ETH threads.

ETH is a centralized pre-mined scamcoin that gets shilled here every few months.

Bitcoin is the only crypto with a future.

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>>1827856
What is pic then?

>> No.1827966

>>1827064

>source: my ass

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1827973

ETH breaks 18 today. Who else uses Blockfolio?

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>>1826359
>Below average intelligence.
27 years old, speak 5 languages, IQ of 140
I deal with people selling millions of dollars in products every week.
How does it feel being so poor and jealous that you need to insult people that are clearly superior?

>> No.1828184

>>1828127
>superior
literally a nocoiner, kys my man

>> No.1828449
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1828449

To any doubters watch this video:

https://youtu.be/2_ERX4K_RME

In minute 7:03 He says private blockchain Quorum and public ETH blockchain would be interacting so yes ETH is the new currency of the future in the eyes of the corporate visionaries!!!

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1828464

i just bought some more today

>> No.1828489

>>1825888
is it worth mining now?

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1828588

I want to buy more Ether but I think it's not a good time right now.

>> No.1828618
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>>1828588
just bought 10 more to test wallets out it's a good way to get a hang of things before moving your whole stake I believe

>> No.1828621

Can anyone give me a quick rundown if keeping my Eth on coinbase is a good idea?

>> No.1828643

>>1828184
Some guy with $500 worth of memecoin telling a guy with hundreds of thousands of real money to kill himself.
This is extremely hilarious.

>> No.1828648

>>1828127
WHat languages do you speak

>> No.1828660

>>1828621
the problem with keeping them in exchanges is that hackers will constantly be probing them for vulnerabilities.

they might find a small bug here or a defect there, but they stockpile them and over time, they find ways to creatively chain them together and gain deeper and deeper access into the exchange.

until one they manage to get their foot in the right door and your money is all gone (case in point, mt gox).

>> No.1828663

>>1828449
Yes same code means interoperability. Bank chains will use the public eth chain to interact with other private chains this was the plan all along moon soon

>> No.1828676

>>1828127
and yet here you are

>> No.1828679

>>1828648
English, español, français, italiano, nihon
>>1828676
Joined 4chan when I was 15, I'm just used to being here while I take a shit or waste some time.

>> No.1828746

FUCK ME ethereum is at 17.27€
should I sell?

>> No.1828759

>>1828746
when did you buy?

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>>1828663
"I like it a lot" - Lloyd Christmas

>> No.1828767

>>1828746
only if you hate money

>> No.1828768

wow, were gonna be living on the moon sooner than i thought.

>> No.1828771

>>1828464
Can I have 0.5 eth? Fag begging nocoiner here

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>>1828767
B-But this rise looks unhealthy and unsteady.

>> No.1828808

let's try if someone is begger-friendly

0x1db4452E016483f0BD43A4Aa15408B770ef6FFC3

>> No.1828848

just sold all my bitcoins and bought ETH with them
super

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1828853

So, whats the reason for this price up of ETH?

>> No.1828854

>>1828848
same here

>> No.1828856

>>1828853
jews realised its potential
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/business/dealbook/ethereum-alliance-business-banking-security.html?_r=0

>> No.1828858

>>1828853
Bitcoin is dying. Miners can't agree on anything. Dash and ETH are better alternative.
Basicly BTC value is migrating to ETH and Dash. It's the flippening and it's happening faster and faster?

>> No.1828883

>>1828858
Is that why bitcoin keeps going down? Knew there was a reason.

>> No.1828891

>>1828883
ETH has more emergent uses than XBT, NWO-lite is creating a public ETH Alliance

ETH will rise meteorically then crash catastrophically explode, causing over 9000 chinese rice farmers to kill themselves then grow from there healthily its a great time to go long and hold mid term or wait for the inevitable dip if you like to gamble

>> No.1828901

>>1828858
nice meme.

>> No.1829012

>>1828901
It's not.
Btc is still growing but slower now because people invest in ETH or in DankMeme (dash).

>> No.1829032

Official Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA

>> No.1829048

>>1828660
May i ask for your suggestion on the storage?

I ain't got access to a pc, so is it the safest idea to print the blockchain?
If i do that, are there going to be any troubles to sell them again within minutes when shtf?

I suppose that it takes quite some time to verify the blockchain on any trading site when i need to sell it, but i obviously lack knowledge as you can see

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what the fug :-----DDD

>> No.1829171

>>1826549
All you gotta Do is fuck up and Do great a few times and you lose all emotion behind it and start making your own coin

>> No.1829894

>>1828643
if you're so superior, why don't ya do some basic research using google ya dumb fuck?

>> No.1829914

>>1829012
Both are growing equally judging by the market cap increase

>> No.1829999

I bought 300 ETH when it was 14.7 I know its not a lot but it looks promising if I hold onto it til maybe the end of 2018 or longer.

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I'm a hundred thousandaire again, guys!

>> No.1831130

>>1831113
congrats bro!

>> No.1831134

>>1831113
Can I have just one?

>> No.1831135

>>1831113
get ready for begging man

but you should probably give me some

>> No.1831139

>>1831113
Nice nigger.

>> No.1831143

>>1831113
Sweet, proud of you.

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>>1825888
but I already did anon

>mfw this is real life rn

>> No.1831197

is there a crash incoming or should I hold onto it

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>>1831197
impossible to say

if you're poor, I'd say maybe sell

if you're not poor, I'd hold, this pump feels different

>> No.1831268

>>1831113
When did you start and with how much?

>> No.1831426

S-Should I sell now? I'm scared

>> No.1831496

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_eth

compared to btc, it seems like eth still has some rising to do

>> No.1831508

This looks so unhealthy

I feel pretty greedy for still holding on tbqh

>> No.1831510

>>1831508
Sames. Sell?

>> No.1831513

Coinbase is disgusting

They take such huge cuts when you buy and sell plus want you to send 6 euros to some 3rd world Estonian to verify you bank (just for the pleasure of taking the money out)

literally what is this shitty exchange I never realized it would be nigh impossible to get your fucking money out of the site.

>> No.1831517

>>1825888
how do i start? how do i buy it etc

>> No.1831523

>>1831513
theres some lesser known exchanges out there that dont require you to jump hoops like cuckbase, but might be riskier.. personally i dont use cuckbase for buying BTC ever

>> No.1831525

>>1831523
Which exchange are you using?

>> No.1831528

>>1831525
I'm holding ETH now I got moved all my BTC to ETH as there is no way BTC is going to keep growing like this

>> No.1831531 [DELETED] 

>>1831528
cex.io

they still need an ID of some sort, but i find them less of a hassle than cuckbase.. you can buy BTC with Credit card

been using them for a year, no problems

>> No.1831533

>>1831525
cex.io

they still need an ID of some sort, but i find them less of a hassle than cuckbase.. you can buy BTC with Credit card

been using them for a year, no problems

>> No.1831539

>>1831510
Just got a reminder of another anon to set a stop-loss, so i'll spend the next hours finding a software that makes it possible

>> No.1831541

>>1831533
What about ETH if I move my ETH there could I just sell it easily.

I just want to unload half of my ETH to cover initial buying costs but I have no clue where would be the easiest and quickest place just to sell some coins.

>> No.1831546

>>1831541
yeah you can sell your mETH there.. I usually use debit card and they credit it to my account

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>>1831539
>>1831541
That's easy on Kraken.

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But costs a little Fee over time if I get this right.

>> No.1831554

>>1831551
Thank you very much, anon

>> No.1831560

>>1831551
kraken is a good exchange.. i just never got around to getting a higher tier verification to enable USD deposits.. my fault for being lazy.. but i usually just go to sites that accept USD