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The NY Fed just increased their overnight repos to $120 billion, which is 60% more than what it was capped at $75 billion

Apparently the Fed needed to do this in the middle of the day, outside their scheduled meetings, and not even during the overnight lending window.

What the FUCK? Something big just happened behind closed doors

Not even zerohedge has this story yet

>> No.16006754
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>>16006742
https://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/opolicy/operating_policy_191023

>> No.16006757

>>16006742
who gives a fuck

>> No.16006764

Huge if big.

>> No.16006830

Reminder zerohedge leaked mark cubanas assesment in june that the fed would face huge liquidity issues in q4 causing a new round of QE by q4.

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>>16006742
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/20/world-sleepwalking-to-another-financial-crisis-says-mervyn-king

>King said it was time for the Federal Reserve and other central banks to begin talks BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WITH POLITICIANS to make legislators aware of how vulnerable they would be in the event of another crisis.

>> No.16006840

>hurr durr muh repo

>> No.16006846

Where is the liquidity?

>> No.16006873

>>16006742
So... is this good or bad for the stock market?

>> No.16006886

>>16006846
Tether

>> No.16006911

>>16006873
Good for the stock market, bad for you

>> No.16006919

>>16006873
The sooner you grow up and realize the stock market and Silicon Valley and all the rest of the banking institutions are glorified ponzi schemes the sooner you realize the only person it’s bad for is you, the schmuck.

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>>16006846
https://wolfstreet.com/2019/10/10/are-the-crybabies-on-wall-street-trying-to-force-the-fed-into-qe-4-you-bet/

All the junk that banks are holding that they want the Fed to buy from them, the Fed isn't buying (yet). The new QE4 bi-weekly operations are for Treasury Bills, not bonds. But the big players like JP Morgan don't have a lot of t-bills, they have a bunch of notes and bonds, probably much of it overseas and negative yielding radioactive trash, that they can't pawn off (YET).

The big banks are trying to strong-arm the Fed into opening up into full-on QE like post-GFC, by not lending to the overnight market and leaving the smaller banks scrambling for cash to meet fractional reserve quotas. It's either that or end up literally insolvent by the time the stock market opens.

This shit is ready to blow.

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>>16006742
Please keep us updated with any further developments anon.
>>16006919
Based.

>> No.16007048

>>16006742
Zerohedge just caught wind of it now
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stocks-surge-fed-panics-dramatically-increases-liquidity-provision-through-brexit-deadline

>> No.16007119

>>16006919
Life is one gigantic fucking ponzi

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>>16006742
please explain to a brainlet

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>>16007173
You will understand soon enough.

>> No.16007231

>>16007173
Prepare to get dabbed on brainlet bitch

>> No.16007234

>>16007173
NUMBER 1 RULE; DONT TELL ANYONE ANYTHING!!

1.) Own your home

2.) Own 3 - 6 months of food and water
+ 10L of Alcohol
+ 20 oz of silver (Scrap)

3.) Own two guns and 50 rounds of ammo (Same cal)

4.) Have the ability to pay your bills for 3 - 6 months (STAY INSIDE)

Money will be worthless... ponzi scheme is about the fail.

>> No.16007274

>>16007234
This is the what you'd need to survive, you can get more stuff but it will feel strange to normies.

You will be able to trade food and water for anything;

- Gold and Sliver
- Rare Items
- Sex
- Guns (Be careful; they will try to fuck you)
- Cars
- Property

>> No.16007323

>>16007274
I'm getting some solar panels and gigs of porn and anime

>> No.16007371

>>16007234
Don't forget several sheets of LSD and ounces of MDMA to that 10L of everclear for max /comfy/

>> No.16007373

>>16006987
there's real shenanigans going on where the game is now being played with and against the FED. It used to be banks vs banks. Now it's the central bank playing the game/being played. shits gonna get weird.

>> No.16007392

>>16006846
>>16006987
seems like its over lads
should've bought guns instead of chuck e cheese tokens
cya on the other side anons

>> No.16007403

>>16007234
>only 50 rounds of ammo

not gonna make it

>> No.16007407
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The skies are turning ominous...

There's some serious trickery afoot, but we don't have the data to see it. Just like how few saw 2008 coming, the picture is so difficult to see until we've gone past it. We are now approaching the storm...

>> No.16007411

Holy fuck, if this shit blows, we are absolutely fucked. I’m a BTC fan but honestly I think I need more bullets and water bottles.

>> No.16007420

>>16006840

"Until an hour before the Devil fell, God thought him beautiful in Heaven."

>> No.16007427
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>>16007173
Banks need to keep a certain percentage of cash on hand every day by federal law, that's the "fractional reserve" system.

Banks are constantly spending your deposits on various financial instruments to make money. Could be equities, bonds, derivatives, whatever. The riskier the better, because they make more yield, and if it gets too risky they now just expect the Federal Treasury to step in and bail them out.

Because of all that spending they have entire after-hours teams dedicated to making sure that the fractional reserve quota is met every night. They do this by lending out collateral (like bonds) to other banks, for a certain percentage interest that they pay back the next day. The Fed gives a "target rate" that banks should use when lending among others, but really it's a market and the buyers/sellers decide what rates to use.

If there aren't enough loaners at the target rate (a la >>16006987), then banks can't lend their collateral out. There's not enough cash being offered in the market, in other words a lack of liquidity. So banks have to ask for a loan at a HIGHER rate of interest, meaning they have to pay back more the next day. This is just supply/demand at this point, hopefully it's apparently how the market works and why a liquidity squeeze would cause rates to skyrocket like they did in September.

Since there isn't enough liquidity, in order to force the market rate back down to the "target", the Fed has to step in and offer up cash at the target rate on the taxpayers' dime. Quantitative Easing. But even with all this QE, banks are STILL having trouble getting the cash they need. That's why the repurchase operations (repos) are still straining and in some cases oversubscribed. There's still more demand than supply, and so the Fed has been forced to increase its QE limits even more.

Cont.

>> No.16007432

>>16007411
Bitcoin will dump. Guaranteed.

>> No.16007433

>>16007234
I have all that but not the extra food and water
figure i'll just rob the weak
should probably stock up on lighters though

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>>16007427
The real question is WHY aren't other banks lending to each other? You loan it out and then get paid back interest the next day. It's guaranteed money! Unless of course they don't trust each other, and think that there's a good chance they won't be getting their cash back because the bank they're loaning to is close to insolvency. Or maybe everyone in the system just has a fuckton less cash on reserve than everyone thinks. Or it's a combination of the above, and it's a power play by the elites (like JP Morgan) who actually WANT this repo crisis to happen, so that the Fed is forced to start buying longer term bonds and not just t-bills (>>16006987)

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>>16006742
eh, what does it even matter? a hundred twenty billion... a fillion gillion... a babillion quillion... jillion huillion... it's all a fugazi

>> No.16007456

>>16006987
ok so how do we short this? what do we buy?


>>16007392
>he didn't buy laser guns with his chuck e cheese tokens

>> No.16007461

>>16007411
This dont put your eggs in one basket. Stack btc, gold and bullets. Prioritize but don't rush. Find your timing through DCA. In the meantime continue to render unto Ceaser what is Ceaser's. Most important is to keep your atonomy of mind.

>> No.16007483

>>16007432
value is contingent like everything else on what someone is willing to pay. Bitcoin is better than gold in every way if used properly, objectively. What is important is if people realise this or not before it is too late.

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>>16007461
>Ceaser
Ceaser died a long time ago. lol

>> No.16007498

>>16007484
and now he has a salad you moron

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>>16007483
>what are cme paper markets

I’m sorry anon but brainlets like you who haven’t realized how the banks control the price by now deserve to lose everything. Going to fucking laugh my ass off when you starry eyed faggots nexk

>> No.16007502

>>16007484
Have you never read literature critically?

>> No.16007507

>>16007427
>Since there isn't enough liquidity, in order to force the market rate back down to the "target", the Fed has to step in and offer up cash at the target rate on the taxpayers' dime.
When the Fed intervened last month, the lack of liquidity occurred in the repo market. This is a different market than the Fed funds market. The interest rate that spiked was for the repo market--not the effective Fed funds rate. Other institutions besides banks use the repo market. So it's not clear that this is a banking matter.

>> No.16007513

>>16007501
And your hubris will be your own downfall friend.

>> No.16007514

>>16007436
Because now they know the fed is gonna step in and give them a bette rate

>> No.16007520

>>16007513
I own plenty of silver and gold. I’ll be fine. Worst comes to worst I buy in a bit higher.

Worse comes to worst for you...You’re going to neck and I will laugh

>> No.16007526

>>16007507
Good point, it's not JUST banks participating in this system

>> No.16007531

>>16007514
banks are based
they've managed to control the money supply to make more profits

>> No.16007535

>>16007436
Based

>> No.16007539

>>16007234
>own your home
I'm fucked

>> No.16007548

>>16007498
Sorry, not everybody eats at Taco Bell, you know?

>> No.16007561

Because this coincides with the brexit deadline, does this indicate it's a UK bank in trouble?

>> No.16007586

How does this affect my life at all? Fucking conspiracytards

>> No.16007600

>>16006742
Give it to me straight. Is 10 oz of gold enough?

>> No.16007604

>>16007586
Well the suggestion is a bank may go Lehman Brothers tomorrow morning.

>> No.16007613

>>16006742
IDS HABBENING

>> No.16007614

>>16006742
shit guys I'm geniuenly a bit worried now. My portfolio just hit 22 BTC. Should I diversify 50:50 into gold? Or is this just some 5D fud?

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>>16007561
All of them are in trouble. Just the other day McKinsey & Co released a report that suggests that the majority of banks around the world (not just US or UK) don't have the equity returns to stay solvent in a market downturn. They'll be forced to merge with each other just like in 2008, and the debt bubble is so much larger today (percentage wise too not just nominal terms) that it won't work. The big boys will rollover, the small banks who depend on them will follow, the whole system comes crashing down. Or the Fed will bail them out by printing trillions in cash and causing massive inflation. Maybe both

>> No.16007636

>>16007520
>I own plenty of silver and gold
Silver? The commodity that is no longer treated for it's speculative value? Supply has long since overridden any perceived value above industrial.

I own gold and bitcoin. Looks like i'll be the one who laughs last.

>> No.16007651

>>16007614
don't go all in one coin, at least 50:50 ETH, preferably also get another crypto and something outside crypto

>> No.16007662

>>16006987
>qe coming back
if round 4 starts why won't it pump all assets including btc and boomer stock portfolios like it has the past 10 years? just a dip in btc until it starts again.

>> No.16007684

>>16007614
Gold is the only real money there is. And I'm a fan of BTC too. But it depends on how paranoid you are. Nobody really knows how bad this is going to be. I would guess that it's going to be really fucking bad for the working class poor and "middle class". But I don't think it's going to be THAT bad for the rest of us, electricity and internet will still be around. But again, nobody really knows

>> No.16007685

>>16007635
I think they figured out it was jpm borrowing money. Hope to God it's db tho

>> No.16007686

>>16007635
Oh I get all of them are in trouble but I thought they weren't all fucked at the exact same time and they're going to topple like dominoes in order over a series of weeks/months. The date suggests that brexit is some how implicated.

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>>16007014
FUCK KIKES

>> No.16007710

>>16007662
It's not "coming back". It is ALREADY back, and has been for a month and a half now. That is exactly why the stock market is still propped up the way it is. But more and bigger QE is coming.

I could definitely see stocks go higher and even reach new ATHs. Nobody knows when this thing is going to pop, the Fed is clearly doing everything it can to prolong the inevitable.

>> No.16007729

>>16007710
>doing everything it can to prolong the inevitable
why though? Is there a plan? Doesn't seem like there could be one.

>> No.16007741

>>16007662
we're in round 4, repos are effectively injecting liquidity into the market. the options now are keep inflating the asset bubble (like 2008) or too many institutions buckle and we see massive changes in the way money flows and economies function (either more govt or more corps running your life)

>> No.16007743

>>16007729
cause financial and economic instability in time for the elections

>> No.16007754

>>16007729
>>16007743
boomer mentality of "passing the buck"

>> No.16007759

>>16007234
>50 rounds of ammo
Just 50 rounds!??? I'd say 2000 rounds. I blow through 100 rounds in 1 trip to the shooting range. Easily!

>> No.16007765

>>16007743
>>16007754
that's a while off though, I mean at this rate this won't hold out another month let alone 6 months before an election

>> No.16007773

>>16007759
sounds like you're a lousy shot anon

>> No.16007786

>>16006919
soooooo what you're tellin me is I have to short the market? k got it, thanks dad.

>> No.16007811

>>16007765
things won't collapse overnight, there's actually a good chance that the apocalyptic events we/zerohedge drone on about will be stalled through the election

if trump wins, expect a downturn, if a democrat wins, could be stalled further

>> No.16007839

>>16007651
I'm actually all in Link. I was thinking half crypto, half gold.
>>16007684
You're painting a really dark picture man but for the life of me, I can't picture it becoming this bad. Maybe because I'm not living in the US? What's your estimate when shit will happen?

>> No.16007851

>>16007839
Get out of link you idiot.

>> No.16007866

So what is the scenario of how this all will collapse? Some people predict a panic at markets, leading to mass insolvency and hyperdeflation, but what is a real limit of Fed's ability to just keep printing money and buying toxic assets?

>> No.16007871

>>16007851
ICO buyer and it's been treating me nice so far. I should get some BTC, though.

>> No.16007879
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>>16007773
>what is hunting for food
Also fellow /biz/nessmen, take this graphic from an irish /k/ommando

>> No.16007887

>>16007866
The Fed can keep doing it as long as a majority of people believe it works. Once faith is lost the system will collapse. There is no way to time it all you can do now is try to build wealth.

>> No.16007901

>>16007866
Option 1:
>QE4 works
>2008-2018 all over again until the next liquidity crisis

Option 2:
>People panic sell, prices fall
>Fed injects liquidity, value of the dollar goes down
>US begins to focus more on exporting again, rather than drowning in debt
>Some third world countries get fucked while the US siphons their wealth to save its constituents
>US experiences volatility but eventually recovers because petrodollar

Option 3:
>You expect too much from a Vietnamese Knitting Imagery Forum

>> No.16007904

>>16007561
there was a rumor 2 month back about HSBC
https://twitter.com/Jkylebass/status/1158945886279557125

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>>16007729
The "good" thing to do, the thing they SHOULD HAVE done back in 2008 was to just let the market crash hard, and let the banks fail because they fucked up big time. It would have been horrible, but also cleansing for the economy in the long run.

The problem with that was that there was a good chance we wouldn't have emerged as still the #1 superpower in the end. Therein lies the real dilemma and why it's not just "The Fed" but the whole aristocracy itself in Washington.

Instead they chose to print more USD, and borrow ridiculous amounts of money from other nations (mostly China). We're the biggest debtor nation in the world now, we haven't seen a debt ratio this high since WWII, and it's not even wartime (yet). They took all this money and injected it back into the banking system to bail it out and re-inflate the bubbles.

I think they're going to try to do the same thing this time, but I don't know if it will work again. The debt bubble is so much larger, and countries all around the world are in similar states. Sooner or later, the whole monetary system is going to blow up and reset. It's a mathematical certainty, unless magically all world leaders and CEOs can come together and agree on some miracle plan to simultaneously forgive and reset all global debt. Which isn't going to happen obviously

Reminder that pic related almost happened last time, and that was when we had a much better relationship with China

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SKF time?

>> No.16007912

>>16006742
Fug guys I live in Spain. We have not overcomed 2008 crisis yet and everything that has real value keeps increasing while wages don't therefore rendering people unable to be on a favourable position against financial crisis and now another wave comes... I am legit scared.
They want western europeans to be slaves, don't they?

>> No.16007919

>>16007839
Euro Banks are beyond fucked, friend

>> No.16007924

>>16007912
GET
OUT

>> No.16007925

>>16007811
Only delusional trumpers think market cycles like this can be timed effeciently. This shits happening regardless of who is president.

>> No.16007929

Just in time for Asuka's prophecy.
Hang on to your assholes, because lots of jews are going to dig in them for bitcoins with their huge, dirty, disgusting hooknoses.

>> No.16007937

>>16006742
you missed this, posted 10/23/19 16:12
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stocks-surge-fed-panics-dramatically-increases-liquidity-provision-through-brexit-deadline

>> No.16007939

>>16007925
Just coincidence they jacked up rates until it crashed the market, and then they had to back off when Trump came in.

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>>16007906
Thoughts on this Anon?
>This is the United States government. First of all, you never have to default because you print the money. I hate to tell you. So there’s never a default.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-no-debt-default-222957

>> No.16007955

>>16007937
Yep, see: >>16007048
Zerohedge posted about 20 minutes after I created this thread

>> No.16007962

>>16007904
ah I forgot about them, them announced they are going to layoff 10,000 people this month, I should have made that connection

>> No.16007966

>>16007944
Vastly different from the ecb and it's "whatever it takes" mandate

>> No.16007976

>>16007906
What will happen when the monetary system blows up and resets?
I live in London btw, am I fucked?

>> No.16007983

>>16007944

Trump isn't wrong though. Technically the United States has already defaulted on its obligations in in 1971 when Nixon """suspended""" the redeemability of dollars into gold and thereby destroying the Bretton Woods agreement. They had simply printed too many dollars to finance welfare and wars and there was no gold to back it up any longer, so when France and others called their bluff and started repatriating their gold for dollars the U.S. government paniced and cut the link, as the alternative would be a total collapse of the U.S. dollar.

>> No.16007997

>>16007976

Get out of that shithole now before it's too late. I left London two months ago because I wanted to weather this monetary reset somewhere else than the city that is affected the most by Cantilon effects and the regressive redistribution of wealth that inflation causes, and is also thereby the most dependent on it. When this all comes crashing down, London is going down with it.

>> No.16008009

>>16007997
most financial centers are fucked: HK (looking like the first domino), Singapore, London, NYC...

>> No.16008018

>>16007925
if you think the POTUS doesn't have any impact on the Fed, US economy, or world affairs, i suggest you go back grade 3 civics class

>> No.16008019

>>16007976
>I live in London btw, am I fucked?
You mean you aren't already?

>> No.16008034

>>16007906
well shiver me timbers

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>>16007944
Yes, that's the crux of MMT. Sure, debt denominated in USD doesn't "matter" because we can print as much of it as we want. The problem is that we've racked up gigantic amounts of debt to other countries (mostly China). We can devalue our currency, which means that other currencies get stronger. Other countries get stronger. Stronger than us. It comes at the expense of giving up our status of global superpower. See how well that one goes over at the white house...

It would be less of a problem if we didn't completely rely upon foreign trade for nearly everything. We no longer net-produce our own products. We ship our steel overseas because there isn't enough demand for it domestically because we ain't producing shit anymore. Then we import the products made from our resources. We're not self-sustaining and haven't been for a long time

>> No.16008052

>>16007879
based and potatopilled

>> No.16008055

>>16008043
Stronger currency =/= stronger country

China intentionally devalues its currency in order to make exports more attractive

>> No.16008057

>>16007912
Borrow and buy commodities

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>>16006742
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/BOGMBASE

Liquidity is crashing with no survivors , also check this

https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoins

There is a synchronized liquidity shortage all around the world you can't possible have this level of synchronizity in the collapse of fiat traded for btc otherwise collapsing at the same time.

>> No.16008076

>>16007420
>Until an hour before the Devil fell, God thought him beautiful in Heaven.
Based. This shit is going to blow up. Buy silver.

>> No.16008083

>>16007432
Bitcoin will become the standard as countries hyperinflate their currencies to prevent civil unrest.

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>>16008043
>It would be less of a problem if we didn't completely rely upon foreign trade for nearly everything. We no longer net-produce our own products. We ship our steel overseas because there isn't enough demand for it domestically because we ain't producing shit anymore. Then we import the products made from our resources. We're not self-sustaining and haven't been for a long time
Its almost like Trump knew what was coming...

>> No.16008100

>>16007955

nice catch, this think-piece came like an hour before this other article

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/hemke-pawn-shop-repo-market-signals-fed-panic-mode

>> No.16008102

>>16008055
Yes, but that works in their case because they're devaluing their currency against the USD, and they are a net-creditor to the USA. Doesn't work so well when you're the debtor and you rely on imports...

>> No.16008119

>>16007234
>50 rounds of ammo
This is not enough. Buy a rifle and a handgun, and have AT LEAST a couple hundred rounds for each. Ammo is not that expensive if you're buying cheap survival rounds of 9mm and .223/5.56

>> No.16008128

>>16008083
That's the bet, anyways. Decentralized means no gov't can fuck with it without significant capital expense, and in the event a country DOES fuck with it, we can fork or move to another coin

>>16008102
Trump has tried to devalue the dollar to make US exports more appealing... Businessmen don't care about national debt, just their quick buck - in yuan or in USD

>> No.16008178

>>16007879
ahhh the old Irish dilemma.
Do I eat the potatoes now or ferment them for vodka later

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>>16007420
pic related but unironically

>> No.16008226

What the fuck is happening? Is this a behind-the-doors liquidity crisis?

>> No.16008259

Found same news from two weaks ago and also from september while havent found anything with date of 23 october. Why did you shopped that faggot?

>> No.16008272

>>16007686
I see what you mean, and yeah that's quite possible. I'm sure Fed is talking to BoE/ECB/BoJ at this point because a big failure anywhere in the world will have huge ripples

>> No.16008279

>>16008259
Dunno what you're talking about, if you mean today's increase it's right here >>16006754

>> No.16008284

Dis ip gub fro whretgairn!?

>> No.16008319

HSBC got caught propping up the Chinese economy with billions of dollars of loans.

Brexit is happening.

Something huge is going to happen.

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>>16006742
welp
this is it boyos
best ring up yer meemaw n peepaw n tell em it's all ogre now
ALL OGRE

>> No.16008339

>>16006742
Could they bail themselves out with a golden bull btc run?? No seriously imagine it crashes to ~1k and then runs to 100k. How much fucking money could they make off that

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And why the fuck the markets are the markets not giving a single fuck about this? If it's so obvious, since all the infos are available, we should be down -25% already. So what is it, really?

>> No.16008368

>>16007684
No.

The ability to exercise violence is the only real currency .

What is the exchange rate of gold to a gun at your head?

Just ask the US gvmt... our currency is no longer backed by gold, it is backed by our ability to project military power.

>> No.16008383

>>16008363
Plunge Protection Team most likely, and boomer retirement funds who can't reallocate on a day-to-day basis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Group_on_Financial_Markets

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Zero fucking normans are talking about this. Even in crypto circles. Sometimes I wonder if all this political theater is to distract the fact that our livelihoods are in peril.

>> No.16008403

>>16007456
Precious metals

https://www.usdebtclock.org/gold-precious-metals.html

>> No.16008407

>>16008383

cont.

Have some insider information that there are a shitton of hedge funds and other institutional investors pulling out of equities and "risky" assets at the moment including PE. I think everyone in finance who isn't braindead knows that the big bomb is coming (and the destruction of the dollar) but the fed and its cronies don't want the rest of the population to figure this out because then it's game over as the USD relies entirely on the public's faith in it.

>> No.16008420

>>16008363
They are: they’re pumping hard, BecUse ethey know the federal reserve will just print money to bail it out

>> No.16008430

>>16008368
It’s backed by petroleum usage which is backed by the military

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>>16008363
That's exactly why corporate buybacks and insider selling is at or near all time highs. Inflows to gold, mining stocks, and gold ETFs at or near all time highs. Other countries hoarding gold. CEOs know it's about to pop. They want the stock market to be propped up quietly for as long as possible so they can exit. They want to convince the dumb money that there's no recession so they'll FOMO in and buy their bags

>> No.16008467

>>16008420

The only problem with this strategy is that it will eventually result in the total annhilation of the dollar through hyperinflation.

This is a very real fucking risk and I'm amazed that zero normies are talking about this.

>> No.16008474

>>16008430
Yes, but it isn’t really necessary to point out every contrivance...

Also, the petroleum dollar system has been a hindrance and mistake because it allowed others to scheme, we should never have bothered with it, instead (the critical turning point of all modern history) the US should have dropped 2 more bombs in ‘45 in Moscow and Stalingrad and then simply gone all in on taking over the world through simple force.... that was the chance to do so, and we did not, and now here we are....

>> No.16008486

>>16008368

This is a fallacious argument because the US military itself needs funding to stay top dog and since 1999 the USA's lead in military funding has been whittled down by rival countries.

Also; the manufacturing industry that provided America with such a great advantage over rival nations in the 20th century is now mostly gone to China.

The technological advantage is there, but it probably isn't great enough to counteract the numbers that China is able to churn out.

America feels more and more like it's in the position Britain was in during the 1930s.

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>>16007906
>Instead they chose to print more USD, and borrow ridiculous amounts of money from other nations (mostly China).

>China: YOU PAY US BACK
>US: no.
>China:

Don't see what's the problem

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>>16008339

>> No.16008612

>>16007879
This is a troll image. You can't grow that much in the space.

>> No.16008632

Why do people in this thread think a recession means you won't be able to buy food?

>> No.16008655

Leading SaaS platforms stock prices have declined again. Last week investors were around to buy the dip. Not this time. IT budgets are getting slashed, and high flying tech stocks are about to get more rekt. Money is moving to the sidelines. The bubble is bursting.

>> No.16008701

>>16008632
Enjoy those 100 dollar hamburgers

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5 acre farm like this can support 6 people with occasional excess to sell. Obviously you would still need to trade and buy things to maintain.

>> No.16008716

>>16008632
>no job
>no money
>no food

>no money
>no customers
>no shop

>> No.16008733

>>16008716
We just had the biggest recession of all time. What you are talking about is a depression.

>> No.16008744

>>16008733
that's right

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>>16007461
Dont forget pic related

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>>16008632
due to just in time stocking if the trucks stop rollin for 3 days the grocery stores will be empty. Apparently when Fort Mcmurray was having the wilfires they stopped deliveries.. everyone was evacuating anyway and in fairly short order with no rush at all the grocery stores were empty.

>> No.16008798

>>16007484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhJ7NmU6lJI

>> No.16008809

>>16007997
But diversity is our strength isn't it?

>> No.16008821

>>16008744
Risk of depression when you are in a recession
>possible

Risk of depression when you are not even in a recession
>Not possible

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>>16007373
>>16006987
you goys are naive if you think it's banks vs. fed.

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>>16007427
noice

>> No.16008872

>>16007976
if you live in London you've been fucked for at least 10 years now.

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>>16008863
its, unironically, the neets vs the jews

>> No.16008955

>>16008368
This is completely correct.
The armageddon crashes have already happened. 1933, 1971, 2000.
People will use the usd (there will be demand for it) until the US military loses its hegemony.
The US military losing its hegemony is called WW3, I have no idea about the feasibility of WW3 but I don't think China would be stockpiling gold and building military bases in contested territory if it was planning on just going out quietly with the next wave of usd debasement

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>>16008467
>I'm amazed that zero normies are talking about this.
they aren't called normies for nothing

>> No.16008969

>>16008439
That german gold buy was debunked. a typo

>> No.16008986

>>16008563
Because then officially the US doesnt honor its debts and people will stop loaning them money. end game.

>> No.16008993

>>16008401
Man, I haven't seen Anchor Steam in ages. I can't get it in Virginia. I liked their porter, too.

>> No.16009013

>>16008467
Watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtFyP0qy9XU

>> No.16009018

>>16008563
The entire global financial system is built on US debt being risk free

If they default...the financial system as we know it will cease to exist over
night

>> No.16009020

the preppers wet dream will never happen. You will get martial law, conscription and ww3.
Then either freedom or tyranny wins.
There's no point in stock piling bic lighters, toilet paper and running off into the woods if you loose the war and ownership becomes illegal

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>>16008871
I included the inline quote

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>>16008884
yeah. or to segment it even further, it's:
elite jews (epstein, soros, r_thschilds) + shabbos goy elites (e.g. bill gates) + puppet politicians + puppet military/police
vs.
everyone else (including neets, self-employed, independently wealthy from trading/poker, wagie normalfags, etc. etc.)

>> No.16009095

>>16008821
but we are in a recession

>> No.16009108

>>16007586
The fed is the institution that siphons off 2.5% of your purchasing power every year.

>> No.16009118

>>16008067
From what I understand, less US $$ in circulation means BTC/USD decreases right?
How can it follow so tightly? Who is buying and selling based on that metric?

>> No.16009144

>>16008183
Is this what is approaching?

>> No.16009145

>>16009144
This has happened in tons of countries over the years. Soviet union, cuba, venezuela, china, etc Retarded burgers think a book written 2000 years ago was about 21st century united states.

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>>16009144
>unironically

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>>16009145
>Retarded burgers think a book written 2000 years ago was about 21st century united states.
Good luck Anon

>> No.16009184

>>16009172
Also jesus wasnt a blond haired, blue eyed white american you stupid mong. Not everything is about americans.

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>>16009145
no, now is the first time it's possible
>worldwide instant communication
>mark on right hand that controls what you can buy and sell
>army of 200million (20% draft rate of 1billion)

I don't think anything is happening till 2023 though

>> No.16009196

>>16007323
absolutely based and redpilled

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>>16009184
Ah i forgot, he was a shitskin, just like you because your people descended from Jerusalem as Gods chosen people, isnt that right juden?

>> No.16009227

>>16009211
Im a white canadian retard

>> No.16009235

>>16008798
And they sent to him some of the Pharisees and some of the Herodians, to trap him in his talk. And they came and said to him, “Teacher, we know that you are true and do not care about anyone’s opinion. For you are not swayed by appearances, but truly teach the way of God. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not? Should we pay them, or should we not?”

But, knowing their hypocrisy, he said to them, “Why put me to the test? Bring me a denarius and let me look at it.” And they brought one. And he said to them, “Whose likeness and inscription is this?”

They said to him, “Caesar’s.”

Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

― Mark 12:13-17

>> No.16009242

>>16008486
>Also; the manufacturing industry that provided America with such a great advantage over rival nations in the 20th century is now mostly gone to China.
In my opinion, this is the true tragedy of the 21st century for America. We've essentially gifted our manufacturing, which is the basis of any modern economy, to China because we assumed that giving away the "crappy factory jobs" was an improvement because everyone could just work an office job and we'd get more cheap shit. The issue is, not everyone can work and office job, and we don't really need the cheap shit. So the only thing we managed to do was expand China's manufacturing capacity and knock out the base of our economy. If we just went back to manufacturing our own shit, we could solve a lot of issues. It would probably be painful and prices would go way up because we'd have to return to reality, but I think it's necessary if there's any chance of the United States returning to glory.

>> No.16009269

>>16009235
You christians love quoting this line when it comes to fiat, so could you go ahead and tell me whose face is on a bitcoin?

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>>16009242
pic related

>> No.16009285

>>16008884
>>16009069
desu your average policeman or soldier is going to end up on the normies' side.

>> No.16009291

>>16009269
noone

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>>16009269
>he doesnt get it

>> No.16009308

>>16009269
Noone is the face of gold either. They are both tangible resources.

>> No.16009310

>>16009242
capitalist industrial economies can't compete with socialist economies because you don't have the right to accumulate wealth in a socialist nation. You're just a slave.
We've pretty much been at war with socialists for 100 years.

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>>16009184
portrait commissioned by Caesar himself

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>>16009285
>>16009069
>your average policeman or soldier is going to end up on the normies' side

>What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
Romans 8: 31

>> No.16009329

>>16007234
Just buy Nasdaq futures on margin

The “”market”” will keep going up, in a parabolic fashion, with the next QE.

This will be an inflationary depression.

>> No.16009407

>>16009145
Not being able to critically understand important literature and extract the meaning of human action from it. What a difficult life it must be to be this dumb.

>> No.16009419

>>16009242
What's this 'we' bullshit? It was CEO's and corporate leadership itself that did this, for cheap labor and lower taxes, etc.. and just like hiring illegals, once one company does it, they'll put you out of business unless you follow suit.

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>>16006742
>Apparently the Fed needed to do this in the middle of the day, outside their scheduled meetings, and not even during the overnight lending window.
This is actually the most surprising part about this announcement to me. Why would they have released that statement half an hour before the markets close? Usually it would be after they close or before they open, like with the last statement they put out on the 11th. Were they forced to in order to prevent something big from happening?

>> No.16009501

>>16009291
Not tangible, as people call it money. Nobodys face is on the shit coming outta my ass but nobody's about to pay 7500 bucks for one of them.

>>16009293
Go ahead and try me then. Why don't you make me get it?

>>16009308
So then dig a little deeper for me and tell me why, when the face of caesar was printed upon actual hard metal like gold or silver, the call was still to return it to him, despite it being able to be simply melted down?

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>>16009501
>Why don't you make me get it?
Why dont you read your Bible?

>> No.16009551

Can’t we just buy Bitcoin? I mean we all know it’s going to a million per piece in a few years? Grab a few, place them in cold storage, and just try to avoid the feral niggers in the mean time?

>> No.16009631

>>16008102
I think the primary dealers are just in need of buyer to offload all the debt they've bought and so they're pushing the FED to buy it up. Basically we're at the top of the bond bubble.

>> No.16009656

>>16008183
PRAISE THE LORD STAY SAFE FRIENDS

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>>16009227
>Im a white canadian retard

>> No.16009684

>>16009501
>So then dig a little deeper for me and tell me why, when the face of caesar was printed upon actual hard metal like gold or silver, the call was still to return it to him, despite it being able to be simply melted down?

It's not literal. You continue playing Caesar's game because dissenters are jailed and assets are seized. The coinage with Caesar's face on them is an illusion, the real goal of the game is to control the person. What is most important is keeping the autonomy of your mind not rendering what is important to Caesar. That is what makes you Human separates you from animals. When systems inevitably blow up you will become the Remnant, where the ones who rendered everything from the working class to the elites die.
You should read more, it is an intimate experience that will help you find yourself more than one man can as you follow more beacons to show you the way. But when I say read I don't mean read anything, read the great works of history.

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>>16009531
How about you? Jews wiping jews. Wow amazing insight.

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>>16009184
Yes he was.

>> No.16009726

>>16009694
looks like you already rendered the autonomy of your mind to Caesar.

I will pray for you.

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>>16009726
I'll make sure to pray for you. The only real Gods are those of white ancestors. If you aren't white then you have no soul. Sorry enjoy nothingness.

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>>16009694
kek

>> No.16009777

>>16009684
Care to rattle off a few? I got a pretty big library and tend to pick the wrong thing.

>> No.16009784

>>16009684
>When systems inevitably blow up you will become the Remnant, where the ones who rendered everything from the working class to the elites die.
If I die, how will I be a remnant

>> No.16009789

I live in the Netherlands. Am I good here or should I move to the USA?

>> No.16009809

>>16009789
I dunno are you in one of the countries with negative interest rates that charges you for saving money?

>> No.16009819

>>16009789
whatever you do, don't live in an urban area. those places will go straight to hell in any sort of collapse scenario.

>> No.16009826

>>16007392
>Implying I didn't do both

>> No.16009839

China injection over half a trillion dollars in market operations in the last three days...holy fuck

>> No.16009846

>>16009272
Henry truly was a based man. The epitome of what America is supposed to be.

>>16009310
Exactly. And it's precisely why outsourcing labor is catastrophic. It's a completely unfair to those who lose their jobs, and the virtual slaves who take them over. Not to mention the pride that is stripped from a country when producing and making. Check the Henry Ford quote above.

>>16009419
When I say we, I'm not saying the working class. That should be obvious. The ideas were still sold to us in a certain way that never panned out. It's obvious now that it never would have worked out, but enough people were seemingly okay with it because welfare picks up the slack and goods become cheaper in the short term. But you can see how that doesn't last. And it should unironically be a felony to hire a non-American to labor or produce something for you because like you said, it provides an unfair advantage that turns into a race to the bottom.

>> No.16009848

>>16007234
>50 rounds
Add 2 zeroes to the end of that and you'll have just enough for a couple days of riots.
The real redpill is reloading equipment.

>> No.16009945

>>16007234

I've never been in the military and even I know you don't go into a single firefight with fewer than 300 rounds, let alone the end of the world.

>> No.16009978

>>16007461
Based

>> No.16010011

So how does this actually differ from increasing the cash rate?

>> No.16010032

>>16009809
Close to 0% interest rate now.

>>16009819
Oh shit

>> No.16010047

>>16007983
Trump is never wrong nesara will save the republic

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>>16010047
Trump will not implement Nesara

>> No.16010065

>>16007427
>out of tax payers pockets
That's cute that you believe that.

>> No.16010073

>>16007234
You broke your own first rule. When is it acceptable to do that?

>> No.16010078

>>16007455
Unequivocally based and irrevocably redpilled

>> No.16010091

>>16007513
>he still doesn't understand the power of smug

>> No.16010115

here is your signal that everything is fucked: the DOW bubbling up to ATH of 45K, might go even higher to 50K but that is it, it is gonna have in a short amount of time, this Q1 or Q2 of 2020 and then that's it, game over.

I would seriously consider getting physical Gold/Silver/Cash/BTC/Guns and ammo/Body Armor/Medical supplies related to Guns/Ammo/ Communications ( handheld devices to communicate with other people that are holding guns ) and last but not last, years worth of freeze dried goods, think a company like NuMana that sells year+ long supplies that last for 25-30 years.

We are gonna get dabbed on pretty hard here boys, checkems

>> No.16010127

>>16009777
Hard to say the journey is different for everyone although the conclusion is the same. Some artist resonate better for others. You don't even necessarily need to find your way from books alone. I recommend books though since they are the rawest form of expression. There are tons of junk books that have no meaning some are obvious like self help book but discerning the difference between modern classics from . Sticking with classics is a safe bet they've worked for most people that's why theyre still read today. Shakespeare, Dante, Twain, etc. Don't be afraid to look for things in other mediums like art, or even in some cases movies/tv. Most important thing is you are viewing these pieces critically and look for intentions of the author.

You can also find meaning in good bad literature like Marx or Chomsky. They can serve to reaffirm beliefs if you are a certain level of understanding.

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>>16010062
that is the black pilled view of reality. The united states is just a totally corrupt institute being wielded to establish global socialism.
There is literally no one on your side, we're just being herded into inescapable slavery

>> No.16010138

>>16010073
if you are willing to be a matyr for a cause to help others. Do as I say not as I do.

>> No.16010149

>>16007944
That is the face an old man with dementia makes

>> No.16010153

>>16009531
STFU. God doesnt exist and if he did he wouldnt give a shit about the united states. Imagine unironically thinking the bible revolves around the united states.

>> No.16010161

>>16007651
Doge to the moon!

>> No.16010163

>>16010153
imagine unironically being a godless tool to a broken system.

>> No.16010165

>>16009631
This isnt it. If there were no buyers the interest rates would rise. There is strong demand. Why are they holding onto them?

>> No.16010167

>>16008586
you act like its not possible? weirder shit has happened

>> No.16010182

>>16007484
>render unto caesar what is caesar's
That anon was quoting Jesus.

>> No.16010200

>>16009784
The ones that die are still playing the game after the music has already stopped. They don't adapt.

Also if you have children and instill your values onto your children you will continue to live on.

>> No.16010202

>>16010062
>i stand with hong kong

>> No.16010204

>>16008043
>The problem is that we've racked up gigantic amounts of debt to other countries (mostly China)

Why is this such a meme? Last I checked, China only holds about 10% of total US debt, less than that held by Japan.

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>>16010062
Yes, he will. 1000 years of peace and prosperity incoming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOk6HB609po

>> No.16010222

>>16010205
Read the image I linked
You are delusional

>> No.16010229

>>16007906
>>16008563
He's close to the truth but the truth is even worse. Nothing is going to happen because the money China gave us was also borrowed money. Who did they borrow this money from? Their own fed reserve. In essence every nation on earth is in debt to their own banks. Except that's where it gets really fucked because their own banks are run by guess who.

So long as we continue to trust the system nothing is going to happen. Nobody is going to physically pull out all their cash from the bank.

What's going to happen is these kikes are going to magically pull out trillions of dollars from their savings and nobody is going to ask how they managed to make a trillion dollars. Its the same thing that always happens. They don't want another real economic crisis because then grumpy Austrians might do something about it.

>> No.16010243

>>16010062
As for debts, i doubt that. Maybe if its a secured loan, but i aint paying of my unsecured debt. Fuck that. like i give a fuck about my credit after societal collapse. Run me down to 300 for all i care.

>> No.16010244
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>>16009684
>>16010127
>>16010200
Based anon. Ill see you on the other side.

>> No.16010246

>>16009013

Great, underrated movie. Written as if the viewer isn't dumb as shit.

>> No.16010251

>>16010205
qanon false prophet
trump antichrist

more likely

>> No.16010253

>>16010244
God bless you anon. The answer lies within The Grateful Dead.

>> No.16010273

>>16010251
Is there anything more tiring than qultist retards? its been almost 3 years and no swamp draining to speak of. /pol got conned hard.

>> No.16010315

>>16010273
nearly every movement on 4chan is astroturfed.
national socialism, trump, chainlink

https://youtu.be/FnT2FcuZaYI

>> No.16010317

>>16010127
Sure I suppose. I'm currently cranking through a book called "The Road to Serfdom" by someone with the last name of Hayek. Seems, at least, quite well thought out; however given that I've got little to challenge the ideas discussed in the book, with which I'd even be able to thing critically, I'd suppose I'd be better off with something less challenging. Although I've found it's easier to at least understand it reading it out loud a few times.

I haven't looked into Chomsky yet though thanks.

>> No.16010326

>>16010317
Austrians are based.

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>>16010222
I read it. Think of it this way... the physical world, as we know it, is comprised of humanitys collective perception of the world. Consider all men to be "nodes" of the physical world, where our minds are data points that project our understanding of the world into the world that we all live in. So each individuals perception is an input, and the output is the collection of all of those inputs being projected into 3d space.

From the start of human conciousness until the late 19th/early 20th century, religion (the Bible, predominantly) was the biggest collective influence that formulated that projection of our physical space. Then newspapers/radio (by extension, jews) began to start to fight religion for that power that religion once held. Then, we had tv/hollywood come into existence. The new media technology and the ability to relay a realistic (from a sensory pov) message through that medium took over "control" of the world around the time of WW2. Israel becomes a country in 1949. 70 years later, (((they))) are trying to censor the internet, because p2p communication (via the internet) is now wrestling back control of the narrative. Humanity is a collective human conciousness, and were right on the cusp of an evolution of that conciousness. Its, literally, Biblical.
>TRUTH IS A FORCE OF NATURE!

>> No.16010380

>>16007234
>50 rounds
Wtf you spend 300k on a house and supplies and $15 of ammo to protect it lmao

>> No.16010411

>>16010326
Austrian economics is the only real economics. Everything else is theoretical, Austrians actually observe.

>> No.16010431

daily reminder the collapse is planned and will the the trigger of european/white genocide openly in the streets

the fed is just trying to prop up the economy long enough until our demographics are in bad enough shape that our demise is certain

sabotage industrial infrastructure, spread panic; push this economy down the hill before their plans comes to fruition.
or else go extinct.

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>>16010362
>truth is a force of nature
sure is. that's why presenting trump as as an outsider who is going to bring back constitutional government while talking about socialist ideals like ethnic collectives and despite him being the self admitted biggest yuppie makes it very obvious the entire qanon/drain the swamp movement is a load of shit ponzi scheme of lies to placate people into accepting another round of socialist debasement
>trust the plan
how 'bout you specify the plan
>future proves past
where can I make bets about the past

>> No.16010463

>>16010204
Are you kidding me? Do you know what would happen if a trillion dollars of Chinese debt (or even a sizeable fraction of that) was suddenly dumped on the open market?

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>>16010229
Its the Samson option anon. Money is the greatest social organization tool ever conceived. If they have no way out, theyll bring it all down.
>>16010200
>The ones that die are still playing the game after the music has already stopped. They don't adapt.

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>>16010229
>So long as we continue to trust the system nothing is going to happen. Nobody is going to physically pull out all their cash from the bank.
kek, tell that to india

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>>16010433
reread what i wrote

>> No.16010496

>>16010469
I can't get out yet. I can't afford any guns or gold. I'm drowning in debt. How much time do I have left

>> No.16010528

>>16010485
trump is literally scripted by artificial intelligence to make all conservatives think he's on their side

huge psyop, meanwhile this fat orange kike has done nothing

>demographic decline of european peoples
>central bank economic planning
>corporate monopolies backed by government
>affirmative action / diversity industry
>mass surveillance
>big tech media
>uncontrolled immigration
>judicial overreach / family courts
remember the real issues

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>>16010433
pic related
>inb4 rothschild economist connection

>>16010496
I dont know how much time you have left, but youre on /biz/ so youve made it this far, and if you know Jesus is king, youll be okay. It works in weird ways like that. I cant explain it, but it just does.

>> No.16010532

>>16010496
probably more time than I think but probably less time than you have. Plan accordingly.

>> No.16010551

>>16010496
with all miracles alligned max a year, unlikely, i say just a few months

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>>16009751
should edit that with
>Just to clarify
>jew jew jew jew jew jew
>roman soldiers laughing

>> No.16010572

>>16010531
I was an atheist until literally last week when I had a vision from "the light" and I've been doing fucktons of research and now I'm here.

>> No.16010578

>>16008486
In a way, yes.

However, the Chinese economy is tangled with the US to the extend that their ONLY ability to harm us economically is the method by which we allow them to do so... slowly.

In a sudden confrontation on economic terms, however badly they could damage the US economy would be multiplied in the damage to their own. If we sink they sink further.

Unlike Britain, the US has territorial advantage: we actually have the resources and area to be fully self sufficient and the obvious geographical advantages of dominance of the hemisphere.

China, on the other hand has the “moral” advantage in that they have none and no presence towards them. If they had the military power of the US, they would already have used it and ended any competition.

Our military doctrine of “soft power” is the weakness... imagine investing an incredible amount of money into (bitcoin or whatever really) and having massive gains but never selling it or using it or converting it into anything liquid.... that is the situation of the US military... we have the power (aside from nuclear war of course) to actually conquer the world. It came at an extreme cost of investment for the better part of a century, but without conquest, it will pay no dividends. Throughout history, the cost of an army was paid through use of it to take resources. We have the greatest military ever conceived by humankind, yet manage to be indebted for lack of its use whilst allowing other nations to grow rich because they needn’t invest in their own.

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>>16010528
okay, reread it again
>>16010362
So now try to understand how blockchain plays into all of this. The concept of a blockchain is that its an immutable list that everyone has access to, and more importantly everyone AGREES upon. Blockchain is unironically the dna of the physical world. Similar to how everyone agrees on the immutable laws of nature.

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>>16010137
I mean its pretty obvious. If you become the U.S. president you have to listen to the jews controlling you, No exceptions. It's obvious that trump is not on our side and it's retarded that people think he is playing "4d chess". Did you people forget that jews can lie and falsely believe and say things to further their agenda, Ever think about that? And no president in the united states has ever been on our side. When I say our side I mean the white aryan gentiles and all the people against jews. You can be a minority and still hate jews and recognize their nature.

>> No.16010631

>>16010578
for a moment the US wanted to the new roman empire, but when it come to it after the 2 nuclear bombs, they chicken out

>> No.16010646

I'm assuming every doosmday nut here has 100x shorts open on the market, right? Right?

I thought so. All this talk with no balls to back it up.

>> No.16010661

>>16009751
>christian
>Not jewish

Good meme my friend. It's like you jews want to make us forget thousands of years of death and subversion by believing in your prophet that tries to confuse people by saying jews are evil but also being a jew at the same time to trick generations to come into believing in a jehova AKA the dad of jewish jeebus cracker. Good ole, two side confusion and subversion technique.

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>>16006742
REEEEEEE pls explain this to a brainlet, is the federal reserve buying more stocks for their portfolio to pump the stocks? Pls anons I need to know.

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>>16010604
everytime you talk about jews you advocate for socialism.
The existence of different ethnic collectives is not the cause of your problems you psyoped moron, they are irrelevant. It is the same argument as the patriarchy or the bourgeoisie are the cause of your problems. If you believe the narrative that the existence of discernible collectives causes problems you are cattle being herded into socialism.

There is a private, unelected, unconstitutional bank stealing your wealth.
There are socialist nations that want to conquer yours to enslave you.

>> No.16010683

>>16010665
Read the fucking thread

>> No.16010689

>>16010665
Yes theyre buying stonks and bitcoin/ethereum/link but not litecoin

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>>16010555
Yeah, i never understood why Jesus wouldnt have just been a Christian.

>Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
>And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
>They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
>Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
>And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
>If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
>I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
>I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
>They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
>But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
>Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
>Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
>Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
>Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
>And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
>Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
>He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
John 8: 31-47

>> No.16010710

>>16010676
Well whoever these private entities are they are not for white people, And definitely not for a fascist and Aryan cause. It just so happens jews are the majority that are against this.

>> No.16010723

>>16010695
>OH NO HE FELL FOR THE JESUS ISNT A JEW BECAUSE JEEBUS CRACKER SAID SO HIMSELF MEME
>IT'S NOT LIKE JEWS COULD EVER LIE MEME

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>>16010592
I'm starting to think things are getting bretty based and breadpilled

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>>16010661
See >>16010695

>> No.16010750

>>16010710
hitler was a socialist you fucking moron. The National Socialist German Workers' Party. You had no right to ownership. Go live in china if that's what you want.
The current keynesian monetary system would be something he could only dream of.

Blaming your problems on race is the lowest iq shit imaginable and is exactly what the socialists that advocate for the federal reserve want you to do

>> No.16010760

>>16006742
FUCK KIKES
FUCK NIGGERS
AND FUCK JANNIES

>> No.16010765

>>16010750
>He thinks nazi germany was communist
>He thinks you couldn't own property in nazi germany

Good meme

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>>16010710
>It just so happens jews are the majority that are against this.
lmao

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How will this repo operation affect other western countries like the UK or Australia?

>> No.16010791

>>16010773
Never heard from a jew that saying the phrase "It's okay to be white" is good. In fact it's quite the opposite, Seems to be causing a ruckus with them.

>> No.16010792

>>16010723
Jews believe christians are blasphemers because they believe christ was the mashiach.
Christians believe jews are blasphemers because they deny christ was the mashiach.

they are by definition incompatible

>>16010765
>The National Socialist German Workers' Party.
kys you socialist, go live in china

>> No.16010800

>>16007371
Am I supposed to do those together or separately?

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>>16010750
and you can fuck off too

>> No.16010819

>>16010646

The market can stay illogical longer than you can stay solvent.

>> No.16010823

>>16010786
Don't worry the white mexican are pretty dumb they will print and the brit bongs are already fucked

>> No.16010826

>>16010792
Moses was a jew, Jesus was a jew. Since jesus was the son of god, That makes the god that jesus believed in AKA the kike jehova god a full jew. Nice try though

And you cannot disprove that in nazi germany you were allowed to own guns and property, Except jews of course. Instead you scapegoat by repeating what you said.

>> No.16010845

>>16008713

that's a perfect world artist's rendition, not reality.

to artificially make that a reality would take big money and the effort of many people.

you're better off being frugal as fuck and just spending as little as possible than trying to go full sustainable farming.

>> No.16010855

>>16006742
>The NY Fed just increased their overnight repos to $120 billion
for the near future? what the fug?

>> No.16010861

>>16010463

I'm just asking why everyone freaks out acting like all the debt is owned by China. It's a smallish portion. If the debt became a geopolitical weapon, the US wouldn't have to print 20 trillion to pay it all back, they'd only have to start with the 2 or so trillion the Chinese hold.

People underestimate the desire of the entire elite to keep things running as is. This will be a slow slide.

>> No.16010864

>>16006834
this is gonna be way bigger than any of the prior QEs when this is all said and done.

>> No.16010880

>>16010792
And tell me, If christians are so anti jews why are the majority of baptists and protestant preachers. The majority of christian churches are bankrolled by jews, Including the late grate family radio and now the jewish program grace to you, The head minister is a full jew. Earlobes connected to the head, Big ears, giant forehead and dark brown eyes.

>> No.16010895

>>16006987
>post-GFC
clarifying for noobs, this means post-global financial crisis

>> No.16010904

>>16010695
Jews worship Saturn/Kronos/Yaldabaoth/Yahweh, false god

Jesus is the son of the TRUE God

>> No.16010932

>>16010811
National socialists subvert their rights to a racial collective. You are a socialist, go live in a socialist country you scum.

>>16010826
Jews and christians do not agree on their god, Christians believe Jesus christ was god. What are called Jews today are the people that literally killed christ, how fucking retarded do you have to be to think denial of christ is compatible with acceptance of christ.
How can Jesus be a jew when he believed he was the mashiach which is blasphemy for a jew

what are you even arguing nazi germany was the same as the united states? you owned property only if it was deemed ok by a central authority. That means you advocate for that today.
Fucking kill yourself you socialist go live somewhere where your property rights are dependent on a bureaucracys interpretation of genetics.
I don't understand how you call yourself a national socialist and then say you're not a socialist. If you are a Nazi you advocate for the subversion of your individual rights to the racial collective. That means you advocate for central control of money

>> No.16010940

>>16010855
Yes, going out to mid-November. At which point they'll issue more temp overnight operations, probably even higher. Their POMOs are already planned to go out through Q1 of 2020.

>> No.16010963

>>16006873
Good for jews, bad for the goyim

>> No.16011019

>>16010932
You keep equating socialism with full blown communism. The problem with socialism, historically, is that it assumes too much power and control over a society. Every government becomes corrupted eventually, or has up to this point in history. The problem with socialism is that once a government DOES become corrupted, that corrupt government can now starve and rape and pillage its citizens because theyre deferred their security and their means of survival to the state. So once a corrupt state has that control, the people are fucked. Thats why the 2nd amendment is genius, because no matter how bad things get, if the government does get corrupted (it has), they can only do death by 1000 cuts, rather than mass arresting dissenters or people who post mean things on facebook.

However, what if we had a socialist system comprised of DAOs? A fully transparent system that actually allocated taxes effectively and effeciently?

>> No.16011046

>>16008967
Bro, “prepping” is normie as fuck with reality shows, conventions, market segments, etc.

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>>16007234
>1.) Own your home
fucking failed step 1 already.

should I buy some land and learn some skills like building, carpentry, and farming?

>3.) Own two guns and 50 rounds of ammo (Same cal)

what if I'm not 21 yet?

>> No.16011053

>>16010819
Thanks Warren

>> No.16011055 [DELETED] 

>>16010932
Realistically the US already has a shit ton of "socialist" policies in place. The fuck do you think welfare is? How does that fit into your idea of american capitalism?
>muh socialism bad
Turn off fox news you fucking retard

>> No.16011068

Firstly they're trying to curb inflation, and secondly they're trying to increase their dollar reserves. Means they know storms are brewing and they're going to need those reserves to stabilize the dollar.

>> No.16011070

>>16010572
God bless you. The more you seek out Christ through the Word, the stronger your faith will become and the wiser you'll be.

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All these religious posters are clearly a fucking psyop, all of you are deriving from the main point of the thread and ruining the quality of the posts you mouth-breathing retards

>> No.16011086

>>16009227
Haha.

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>>16011074
Agreed, this is a based fucking thread, but went downhill once these conspiracy/jesus/dajooz dumbfucks started posting

>> No.16011103

>>16009269
>Roman Dinarius
>fiat

Imagine being this retarded...

(Spoiler, the dinarius was silver)

>> No.16011105

>>16011019
A national socialist subverts his individual rights to a racial collective
A communist subverts his individual rights to social collective
a keynesian subverts his individual rights to an economic collective

The subversion of individual rights to anything but the individual is the end point of corruption it is the definition of tyranny the opposite of freedom.
If you advocate for your rights to be degraded by the justification of enriching some collective whether it be the aryan race, the proletariat or the employment rate you are the corruption to be destroyed

>>16011055
no shit. Either the US is completely fucked >>16010137
or it has been debasing itself to fight socialism until a permanent solution to it exists

that is why we are here on biz advocating for the obsolesence of the unconstitutional central bank by the invention of man made peer to peer cash.

>> No.16011109

>>16010572
What have you learned so far

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>>16011092
It happens in every thread that begins to start lay down some truth and then these retarded fucking bots begin flooding the thread in order to derail the real conversation, they deserved to be drawned and quartered

They know what they’re doing

>> No.16011168

>>16011145
>>16011092
which are the posts I should listen to?

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>>16011092
>>16011145
The Jews part is materially undeniable.

What this thread should be/should have been about is the potential fallout of the banks.

>> No.16011194

>>16011168
Highlight posts by OP, read responses

>> No.16011202

>>16009735
Stfu glownigger with your gay fucking Mossad forced meme “fashwave”

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>>16011168
There is a clear divide between the first half of the thread and the later, where anons are talking about the actual current situation all these banks and the feds are in, but once you start seeing these posts about Jews and Jesus and the fucking bible, they’re all retarded spam bots that should be necked >>16011187 like this faggot right here

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>>16010695
>>16010904
Jews worship Yahweh you stupid fuckheads.
>>16011202
t. jew worshiper

>> No.16011230

>>16011216
This. Was a great thread until drooling retard Jesus posts and anti-Trump schizo Qtard trash.

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>>16011105
Do you think women should be able to vote?
What about subverting your rights to the "collective" if that collective is your family?
Why would a man ever fight a war if everything was just about individualism?

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>>16011218
You should be shot for being a divisive shill

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>>16011238
You literally worship a fucking kike. ALso what is even funnier is that christcuckery is the SHILL here. I'm not shilling shit but you are shilling your jew religion. All over 4chan.

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>>16011187
>What this thread should be/should have been about is the potential fallout of the banks.
Which, of course, has absolutely nothing to do with jews. Retard.
The banks are all begging the fed for cash because they dont have any to lend eachother overnight because our economy is a literal ponzi scheme at its end stages. Its not that hard to figure out. Read this anons posts >>16007427
The fact that this is happening while all the other religious shit mentioned itt is happening, in addition to the current situation in the middle east with the US leaving Israel to face all the arab states on their own, isnt a coincidence. Its all very obviously connected even if youre too dim to see it.

>> No.16011295

>>16011237
>Do you think women should be able to vote?
yes
>What about subverting your rights to the "collective" if that collective is your family?
no the government should not legislate how you run your family.
You can give your money to racist groups or marxist groups or the people that own gold if you like.
I don't give a fuck what you do, but I won't have it legislated on me.
>Why would a man ever fight a war if everything was just about individualism?
to fight for his rights. The same reason we fought hitler.

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>>16011250
This thread has NOTHING to do with your shitty beliefs and retarded rhetoric and I never mentioned my fucking beliefs, it only becomes clearer that all your posts are meant to derail the actual discussion of this thread

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>>16011295
>Do you think women should be able to vote?
>yes
Stopped reading there. Enjoy your libertarianism brainlet.

>> No.16011348

>>16011326
>the national socialist thinks women shouldn't vote
Imagine my shock.
You forgot that you think nobody should vote, remember you nazi?

>> No.16011385
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>>16011348
>muh evil nazis
First day on 4chan kid?
https://www.loc.gov/resource/mss35634.00312/?sp=52&r=-0.013,0,1.026,1.279,0

>> No.16011395
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POLTARDS DO NOT @ ME
I AM YOUR JEW ENEMY, DO NOT TRY TO ENLIGHTEN ME. I am going to use my special spacing to signal that I don’t want to communicate with you.

But, for all the bears, do you have money? Have you even owned any investment vehicles besides crypto and shiny rocks?

How many times have you wished and dreamed for a stock market crash? What were you doing last November - January?

How many times have you thought it would keep going down, and that THIS TIME it would be the big one?

How often do you wish for the big one? Are you hoping for the end of the US and for a new dark age?

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>>16011385
you are a brainlet that is a victim of the socialism of central banking that then advocates for more socialism because you fall victim to propaganda that the fact there are differences between groups of people is the cause of societal degeneration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os63_osqIzo

If you don't want the return of capitalism, go live in china. Stop being a hypocrite.

>> No.16011526

>>16010792
Fuck off Boomer

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>>16011441

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>>16011074
>>16011092
>>16011145
>>16011216
This is unironically right. There is a hard divide between the first section of the thread where actual economics was being talked about and the second section where literal CIA glowniggers came here to derail with Jesus-this and Hitler-that. It's so fucking obvious.

>> No.16011625

>>16011218
>t. Jew worshipper
Don’t flatter yourself, Schlomo
Jews are scared of everything, the Kafka strategy would be for white nationalist types to suddenly claim support for central banks and financial manipulation, would cause some fretting.

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>>16011547
You are a bot, everything you have posted is off-topic and has nothing to do with the foreseeable economic collapse that was being discussed

>> No.16011664

>>16011626
you're a bot too
a flesh bot programmed by the internet
look at you, you retarded piece of shit
conflating your self identity with a fucking meme cartoon put here and promoted by intelligence agencies

LOOK AT ME
I'M PEPE THE FROG
IM NOT JUST ANY PEPE THE FROG IM BIG TALL PEPE THE FROG WITH A TOP HAT
FUCK YOU
I DOWNLOADED MY PERSONALITY FROM THE INTERNET AND CUSTOMIZED IT MYSELF

>> No.16011727

>>16009329
>and that's a good thing

>> No.16011730

>>16008439

Here's my question? How do I profit off this? What's the most favorable business to be in? Where to put assets?

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>>16011664
Here’s proofs lol

>> No.16011849

>>16007455
based and hanna pilled

>> No.16011877

>>16010750
don't post on channel4 again until you've read Mein Kampf, faggot. you have no idea what you're talking about

>> No.16011917

>>16010137
And crypto is the next lockdown. Cashless society with high amounts of surveillance. Technology are the handcuffs.

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A lot of dummies in here taking the bait from /pol/

You guys don’t know how to ignore bait by now?

>I just want to have one thread without Hitler being posted, can’t I have one nice thread?
Lolno. And you also cannot have a thread free from anime. The board culture is what it is. And it’s terrible.
>>16010861
>People underestimate the desire of the entire elite to keep things running as is. This will be a slow slide.
Possibly the most based reply in the thread.

>> No.16012049

>>16011877
kys socialist

>>16011917
BitCoin is capitalist, it is secured by profit

>> No.16012139

>>16010760
based

>> No.16012205

>>16008785
Jesus.

I know this isn’t likely to happen right away or anything, but over the weekend we had a storm that knocked out our power for a good 12 hours.

I was surprised how relatively miserable those hours were. It shocked me & made me wanna go out & stock up for fear of shit like your pic related