/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.13490459]

What went wrong?

[Anonymous No.13490475]

Phone posters
Politics
Moot leaving

[Anonymous No.13490482]

should have seen the rebrand event as a red flag anon.

[Anonymous No.13490512]

>>13490459
you showed up

[Anonymous No.13490531]

whites + incels = depressed circle jerking

[Anonymous No.13490549]

2016
Moronic buzzwords like soi, c.uck, boomer, zoomer
Needing to bait with anti-(whatever) threads just to get discussion going, otherwise anything else is ignored
Lack of original thoughts, we're becoming more and more like plebbit by day

[Anonymous No.13490554]

Nothing.
Just bought 100k.

[Anonymous No.13490561]

>>13490459

tripfags
phones
trump

[Anonymous No.13490566]

>>13490459
Snacks was banned

[Anonymous No.13490572]

2016 election was the tipping point

[Anonymous No.13490580]

>>13490554
>Nothing.
Wrong. Go back to wherever you came from, tourist.

[Anonymous No.13490615]

The world's intelligence agencies, along with every pressure group and PR agency, realised that what they thought was the bottom of the internet is actually the top. Pic very fucking related.

[Anonymous No.13490619]

>>13490459
>new CEO
>sells data to three letter agencies
>ads every 500 pixels down..
Those who care, left
When you ask for an improvement, you get no answers, or they just delete your questions.
When constant raid shit up your general for whole year, everyday and no help comes to range ban those fuckers.
How does the ad watcher (4chin user) feel? Everybody start shitposting to no end since nobody cares and people that can get involved in real discussions leave, because shiposting has no end for years.

[Anonymous No.13490636]

pol has actually been improving lately now that the trump illusion has come and passed. The MAGA faggots pissed back off to The Donald.

[Anonymous No.13490641]

>>13490459
>discord shills
>discord
>reddit
>resetera
>boomers
>LARPing "oldfags"
mostly YouTube though.
>>13490475
>>13490531
>>13490561
>>13490572
these people have no clue, the downfall started in 2012 and went on for years
>GamerGate
>Moot dates Anita Sarkeesian, modern feminist stalker, shits on "racist bigots" and then sells the board to a greedy chink
>TheFappening
>"Deep Web Videos"
and then Pizzagate ... which led to shills flooding the site.

[Anonymous No.13490643]

>>13490459
It started the inexorable decline when OP first showed up

[Anonymous No.13490655]

Oh I forgot, Twitter screenshots.
It's like 60% of threads on popular boards.

[Anonymous No.13490675]

>>13490459
biz/4chan tipping coin never got integrated.

[Anonymous No.13490680]

>>13490643
So 2005. That sounds about right.

[Anonymous No.13490696]

>>13490619
>people that can get involved in real discussions leave
they're mostly outnumbered here, many tried cripple but then realized that gay mods ruined most if not all alternatives to 4chan, so they went back to forums or stayed here

[Anonymous No.13490699]

>>13490459
I often use 4chan to think out loud, so to say.

Like this thread here, for example: >>13481391

You'll see me rambling about why I think, in that row, they lost Capital, despite issuing more common stocks, and why they incurred a loss in Retained Earnings.

I actually looked back at my accounting stuff from years ago, and I now think that happened because they issued Treasury Stock (by Apple purchasing their own common stock, it would decrease Common Stock Amount). Apple then Re-issued this Treasury Common Stock at a price below the amount they had purchased, resulting in a Loss, which is be recognized in a Reduction of Retained Earnings.

No one else asked 'what are talking about?', or offered to try and help my understanding. Gotta be the change you want to see, rather than making passive fag threads, like these.

[Anonymous No.13490713]

It should have been kept as a sekrit club after all. It's common knowledge that whatever normalfags touch goes to shit and the surround area's IQ drops significantly.
The decline of the chan has been like a shitty bear market, it slowly bled over the years becoming worse and worse (aka normalized). It's practically reddit 2.0 by this point.

[Anonymous No.13490740]

Why is the captcha so fucking bad on 4chan? I thought Hiro had no control over captchas but on 4channel boards you can sometimes just click at random and the captchas will work after a couple tries but on 4chan boards I've actually had to do up to 40 captchas for a single post.

[Anonymous No.13490761]

>>13490699
>rather than making passive fag threads, like these.
>YOU ARE NEVER EVER EVER ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT THE NOTICABLE DECLINE OF THIS WEBSITE
Right because this is the only thread I ever make.

[Anonymous No.13490765]

>>13490459
nothing
the quality of discussion here never changed

[Anonymous No.13490824]

>>13490740
actually this. kek

I tried posting on 4chan and I legit can't correctly finish the captcha even after 15+ tries

[BSV will win No.13490825]

>>13490459
1. Too many boards ruined /b/, took people making nice threads away.

2. Too many overlapping board subjects ruined /b/ further (/bant/, /s4s/, /trash/).

3. 2 MB images on /b/, are you kidding me?

4. Restrictions on posting, long cooldowns between posts, captcha on posts. Nobody imagedumps anymore.

5. Gold accounts. Implement annoying cooldowns and captcha and offer to pay to buypass them, are you kidding me again?

6. 4channel.org for blue boards, more jokes?

7. Global rule #3 is retarded and allows you to be banned for any made up reason.

8. Unable to seriously dispute bans, if you feel you got mistreated by some mod that had a bad day you can do fuckall about it. Your appeal will just get denied as it always does.

9. No fun allowed, if you post a pony gore image outside of /mlp/ some retarded nigger mod might ban you. And wtf is this I hear about some people getting banned for saying nigger on blue boards?

[BSV will win No.13490834]

>>13490825
10. people saying ">reddit spacing"

[Anonymous No.13490866]

>>13490825
>wtf is this I hear about some people getting banned for saying nigger on blue boards?
I imagine things like this are extremely common on normie boards like /soc/

[Anonymous No.13490966]

>>13490459
The problem is democracy.

4chan is one of the few places where an idiot's opinion will be louder than an expert's.

Which I'm sure feels good for the idiot, but tends to scare experts and other smart people away. No-one wants to reveal a bunch of knowledge only be to out-(You)'d by a retard with a one line shitpost that tells people what they want to hear.

Look at climate change threads on /pol/, usually its one person presenting evidence that gets ignored because the truth is too uncomfortable in favor of "lol kike scam xd" which is the comfortable lie.

[Anonymous No.13491054]

Press 1 if you hate niggers

[Anonymous No.13491078]

>>13490966
the people that cant command a crowd as dumb as 4chan are the real brainlets.

[Anonymous No.13491096]

>>13490966
>Which I'm sure feels good for the idiot, but tends to scare experts and other smart people away. No-one wants to reveal a bunch of knowledge only be to out-(You)'d by a retard with a one line shitpost that tells people what they want to hear.
look at
>>13490713
>It should have been kept as a sekrit club after all
you know why it isn't anymore? my post
>>13490641

[Anonymous No.13491098]

>>13490966
>The problem is democracy.

>4chan is one of the few places where an idiot's opinion will be louder than an expert's.

It's the nature of supposed anonymity, and lack of accountability. People will talk about their TRUE feelings, and biases, which are not usually allowed to discussed in other forums, or real life, for obvious reasons. And so, you get things like sexism, anti-antisemitism, racism, and a questioning of politically influenced research topics, like climate change or evolutionary psychology.

[Anonymous No.13491110]

>he didn't buy the dip

[Anonymous No.13491120]

>>13491078
You fell victim to the popular == correct meme.

It's easy to command a 4chan crowd, yes, but that doesn't mean the ways to command a 4chan crowd are compatible with the truth. Your method only works if what you want 4chan to understand is orthogonal to what they want to hear.

[Anonymous No.13491127]

>>13491098
>which are not usually allowed to discussed in other forums, or real life, for obvious reasons
Not to imply I think people shouldn't be allowed to discuss the things I mentioned

[Anonymous No.13491130]

>>13491098
>People will talk about their TRUE feelings, and biases
you forgot shills anon. massive amounts of paid shills, of internet warriors with worthless degrees

[Anonymous No.13491131]

>>13490641
tell me about your life. what job do you do? how many hours a day do you game? how old are you? what's your living situation?

[Anonymous No.13491155]

>>13491131
>just requesting some identifying information, please be nice

[Anonymous No.13491169]

>>13491098
>people will talk about their true feelings and biases
You are correct, but that also fundamentally makes it a website where people argue based on emotions and biases. Which explains low post quality and rampant shitposting. People aren't concerned with actual truth discovery here, it's just battling for fleeting moments of superiority regarding your pre-existing view.

Starting to think full anonymity is a failed experiment desu.

[Anonymous No.13491190]

>>13490482
almost like that was the death knell really.

[Anonymous No.13491197]

>>13490459
Huh? What’s 4chan? Is it like 4channel?

[Anonymous No.13491225]

>>13491169
>full anonymity is a failed experiment
it's not if you know about ways to weed idiotic newfags out, flooding a site with entitled retards wasn't proven to be beneficial I guess

[Anonymous No.13491256]

>>13491225
It works maybe with strong moderation but that is difficult to scale. Jannies on 4chan are slow enough as it is.

[Anonymous No.13491264]

>>13491256
FUCK jannies

[Anonymous No.13491285]

>>13491256
>you need faggot mods
>let me just ignore your post
np

[Anonymous No.13491287]

Hello can we have flags on /biz/?

[Anonymous No.13491288]

>>13491285
eggman aint doin so good

[Anonymous No.13491309]

>>13491288
Checked

[Anonymous No.13491328]

>>13491285
"Self-moderation" is a meme

[Anonymous No.13491351]

I think 4chan is fine

[Anonymous No.13491352]

>>13490475
>Moot leaving
This was actually bullish for 4chan.

[Anonymous No.13491384]

>>13491328
it is if the natives are outnumbered

[Anonymous No.13491498]

>>13490459
reminder that the oldest meme on 4chan is that it used to be better

[Anonymous No.13491511]

>>13490615
The real problem was they started actively trying to create meme culture instead of letting it be organic, once that happens then every shill group starts trying to own the conversation and everything goes to shit after that.

[Anonymous No.13491542]

A lot. And pic related is putting 4chan into next level.

[Anonymous No.13491573]

too many normies outnumbered the original posters and oldfags and obviously destroyed the culture

[Anonymous No.13491644]

You fags act like it was soooooo much cooler during the habo hotel and Jessie slaughter days. Do you kooks not remember this place was filled with degenerates back then posting literal CP and trolling people into deleting system 32 and making crystals that are actually poison gas? If you miss the edginess it’s still here we just call each other NIGGERS left and right and have actual racists here now to filter out the normies. It’s actually gotten better imo because of less degeneracy like bronies and child molesters. Sure more traffic brings more retards but it’s always been a small amount of smart people speaking up here and there in a crowd of dummies just like the real world. You fags just get stuck in the “back in my day” bullshit like some boomers.

[Anonymous No.13491706]

>>13491169
I would disagree that arguing on emotion and biases is "bad" thing. We can't all back each of our statements with p-values and shit. And there are likely to be other places which fit that purpose.

For me, I actually like how 4chan is counter-culture. Because it allows people to voice alternative views, and you can begin to flesh out why you feel a certain way, which allows people to understand, and maybe empathize, to an extent - even if you're not backing everything with evidence from studies.

[Anonymous No.13491712]

>>13491644
>Do you kooks not remember this place was filled with degenerates back then posting literal CP and trolling people into deleting system 32 and making crystals that are actually poison gas?
>yes I'm implying
>haha le nigger and shieet
the only thing that's convincing in your post is
>Sure more traffic brings more retards
and you didn't even think it through. everyone hates CP, the rest you've mentioned is actually pretty glorious and you're a fag

[Anonymous No.13491730]

>>13491706
>simply disagreeing
>by arguing on emotion and biases
>"I actually like how 4chan is counter-culture"

[Anonymous No.13491785]

>>13490459
No upvotes

[Anonymous No.13491793]

>>13491730
I'm just a humble pseudo-intellectual, looking for a home.

[Anonymous No.13491801]

Fucking pajeets shilling every shitcoin under the sun

[Anonymous No.13491820]

>>13491712
Yea bronies and trolling people into killing themselves are cool, are you fucking 12? I bet you own a fedora and guy fawkes mask unironically.

[Anonymous No.13491833]

>>13491793
>>13491820

[Anonymous No.13491996]

>>13491833
>lel if someone says something I don’t like they are from Reddit!

[Anonymous No.13492108]

>>13490475
>phone posters
get a life

[Anonymous No.13492125]

>>13490549
memes are used just to fit in now, not cuz ppl find them funny. how can u repeat a joke 10,000x and still find it funny?

[Anonymous No.13492139]

>>13491706
>4chan is counter-culture
Not anymore. The internet is saturated with 4chan shit.

[Anonymous No.13492623]

>you will never post on /sp/ era 2009-2012 again.

I want to go back bros

[Anonymous No.13492636]

It's not specific to 4chan but any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakingly believe that they're in good company.
Just look at the anti vax memery, flat earth mouthbreathers and the like.

[Anonymous No.13492648]

>>13492636
Hence why "ironic shitposting maymay culture" is truly cancer

[Anonymous No.13492668]

>>13492636
>oh yes, compulsory vaccination is a great idea
>believe the government, believe, have faith in ME

[Anonymous No.13492678]

>>13492668
Found the idiot

[Anonymous No.13492694]

>>13492668
>ironic shitposting by strawmanning
see
>>13492648
but enjoy the (You) though

[Anonymous No.13492714]

>>13492678
oh yeah the memes about tptb it's all just irony bro. enjoy unaccountable corporations and complete automation. forced vaccines are a great idea, when you add every single piece

[Anonymous No.13492716]

>>13490615
this tbqh

[Anonymous No.13492745]

>>13492714
I hoped forced vaccines that sterilize people like you are a real thing

[Anonymous No.13492760]

>>13492745
>pink ID
>ironically a faggot
>yeah just s-sterilize disobedient people, schizos need to fucking DIE

[Anonymous No.13492764]

>>13492636
Flat Earth = Bullshit
Anti Vax = Good Movement

[Anonymous No.13492770]

>>13490459
he doesn't use darknet imageboards in 2019 pfft

[Anonymous No.13492789]

>>13490641
They raped /co/, Tumblr just came and she raped /co/.

[Anonymous No.13492792]

>>13492760
>>13492760
>yeah just s-sterilize disobedient people, schizos need to fucking DIE
This but unironically. Schizos should be culled.

[Anonymous No.13492808]

>>13490761
Calm down thomas, he was just making a suggestion

[Anonymous No.13492840]

>>13492792
yes, yes because everyone who disagrees with your attitude must be mad, or maybe you aren't as smart and miss the cues

[Anonymous No.13492860]

>>13492840
I cant wait until AI culls you desu.

[Anonymous No.13492907]

>tfw my home board is still pretty good and hasn't fallen victim to the trends ruining every other board

Feels pretty good but on the other hand I don't think I can keep watching foreign cartoons forever. I'm already almost 30, even moot is done with anime and that faggot used to cosplay as a girl and go on trips to Japan. Now he's a normalfag and I'm still shitposting about cartoons on the Chan

[Anonymous No.13493034]

>>13492760
>schizos need to fucking DIE
This.

[Anonymous No.13493303]

>>13490699
So just what I hope to be a final correction (I'm doing this because it'd be good to see more Accounting discussion on this board, by people who are actually fucking competent).

https://www.accountingformanagement.org/treasury-stock-cost-method/

>if additional paid-in capital from a previously issued treasury stock is not available then additional paid-in capital-common stock is debited and if additional paid-in capital-common stock is also not available or is not sufficient, the retained earnings account is debited.

Apple Re-issued Common Treasury Stock (which are essentially repurchased stocks). They did so at a price below what they had paid to repurchase these stocks.

This results in a Loss.

Some of that Loss was allocated to the Common Stock Amount. The remainder of that Loss (that wasn't able to be "covered" by Common Stock Amount, through something called Additional Paid in Capital) was then Allocated to Retained Earnings.

Therefore, Common stock was issued, but resulted in a Reduction of Capital, and a Reduction of Retained Earnings.

[Anonymous No.13493501]

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[Anonymous No.13493520]

they didnt change their name to 4channel

[Anonymous No.13493534]

%triforce

[Anonymous No.13493544]

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[Anonymous No.13493569]

>>13492636
I somewhat agree, the problem is that antivaxers are still a danger to the society even if they get laughed at

[Anonymous No.13493650]

>>13492636
Please ignore all the damage vaccines do to people and studies showing vaccine damage. You fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.13493853]

>>13492636
Round earthers are totalitarian.

>we are right and you should be scilenced

[Anonymous No.13493868]

>>13490834
kys

[Anonymous No.13493892]

https://medium.com/@sumpunk/a-tale-of-freedom-3df23ac7c57?sk=aca6bce20e958873e64e0ecd03d630ae

*AHEM*

[Anonymous No.13494003]

>>13493853
I believe in a lot of wacky shit but flat earth is most likely disinfo given how popular it is

[Anonymous No.13494024]

I don't understand why the fucking gook doesn't take BAT. Half of Brave's user base is on /biz/

[Anonymous No.13494130]

>>13492789

Would anything else happen when they're pretty much the only crowd current cartoons appeal to?

[Anonymous No.13494159]

>>13490641
He didn't date Anita and Gamergate started in late 2013 dumb newfag, Fappening was 2014 and Pizzagate in 2016 dumb candyass larper
But you're right, 2012 was when moot created /pol/ with the intent of a no moderation board, intent he abandoned by late 2014 when /sp/ shat on his luggage lad'ing when he dated that kike girl that wrote an essay about 4chan

[Anonymous No.13494186]

>>13490459
Moot sold out
phoneposters

[Anonymous No.13494290]

-Racists
-Burgers (Ameritards)
-Drumpf bootlickers

[Anonymous No.13494315]

A random sampling of 4chan users will be smarter than a random sample of any other sites users. This has been proven

[Anonymous No.13494789]

/pol/
Oldfags are lefties. 4chan used to be a left-leaning website.

[Anonymous No.13494813]

>>13494789
>>13494290
stay mad

[Anonymous No.13495090]

>>13493303
What is that book?

[Anonymous No.13495426]

O walls, you have held up so much tedious graffiti that I am amazed that you have not already collapsed in ruin.

[Anonymous No.13495430]

>>13494789
>pool's closed

not really

[Anonymous No.13495484]

it's the red pill mind control cult
went from nofap to mgtow to maga to dotr

[Anonymous No.13495534]

4chan is probably overall the best its ever been though some boards like /sp/ have fallen on hard times. people are just more literate now, more complex ideas can be shared and discussed.

i dont think many of you remember 2006-2012 era. it was mindless, the humor was basically retarded observational garbage. it is the exact type of garbage facebook-tier normie shit that people love to poke fun of and laugh at.

as for really shitty memes like sneed or whatever, 4chan has always had those since forever.

[Anonymous No.13495555]

>>13490531
This.

>>13490459
The edgelord fedora tipping teenagers "grew up" to become racist, mostly impoverished incels

[Anonymous No.13495559]

Allowing activists to post here was a mistake. /pol/ should be a text-only board. Site was best when it was just hobbyists calling each other "niggerfaggots" over autistic disagreements instead of organizing race wars.

[Anonymous No.13495593]

>>13490834
kys namefag

[Anonymous No.13495604]

>>13495534
Idk man the raids were really really funny sometimes

[Anonymous No.13495627]

>>13495534
I always felt pre-2010 was top tier 4chan.

The 2010 World Cup on /sp/ was the epitome of 4chan greatness. It essentially was the 4chan magnum opus and it has all been down hill since then

[Anonymous No.13495659]

>>13495627
there is no doubting /sp/ of that era was objectively great but I'd wager the rest of the site has more adopted that tone than it has gone away from it. and ironically /sp/ itself is probably the board that least embraces that type of discourse anymore.

if there was one change I'd make to 4chan it would be eliminating generals.

[Anonymous No.13495951]

>>13495534
>it was mindless, the humor was basically retarded observational garbage. it is the exact type of garbage facebook-tier normie shit that people love to poke fun of and laugh at

[Anonymous No.13495961]

>>13495627
>>13495659
>we will never get back old /sp/
the only way to save it is to ban generals and discord server shilling there. also BRING BACK SHITPOSTING YOU SHITTY JANNIES.

[Anonymous No.13496670]

>>13490713
>>13495534
Sneed and baneposting are the at the ATH of memes too complex for you to fathom
You cannot even explain the joke, it cannot be explained.
Why do we do this? We simply don't know.

Anyway none of you seem to realize that 4chan's only power is being FIRST at things

It was indeed the wellspring of some of those shitty Facebook memes before they were appropriated and misshapen by normies into their current vulgar, genuinely deepfried™ form

I challenge you to think back to all the good things that ever came out of 4chan, along the lines of this "firstness" thesis
It's taught me at least over the years that being first has much more upside than I ever thought before

[Disclosure: zoomer here, heard the stories of old from my friends and ED back before 2012 and started posting in earnest here about when I was 17 or so after a childhood of lurking]

[Anonymous No.13496687]

>>13491542
Not naming the "raids" board the invasion /i/ board. Kek.

[Anonymous No.13497324]

>>13495534
it was what it was but it had something "older and mature to it"

thats why fokin trollface was actually cool before it was cool moshi desu candy-ass what the rock is cooking you summerfag

>Fortune

[Anonymous No.13497460]

>>13490459
/pol
Q

[Anonymous No.13497481]

>>13490459
popularity, moot getting got by Jewish propaganda, more popularity (weird)

[Anonymous No.13498261]

>>13490615
Never forget those people have names, families and jobs

[Anonymous No.13498563]

Absolutely abhorrent takes ITT.
Unsustainable model. Was doomed to always be like this. It was never good.

[Anonymous No.13498702]

>>13490531

[Anonymous No.13499387]

Pic related happened.

We grew up are wagecucks now, forced to interact with normalfags

desensitized to vidya and porn


I kind of enjoy the post absurdist ironic irony here though, and how old memes have evolved through time

been here 11 years btw

[Anonymous No.13499398]

>>13496687
I absolutely detest newfags. They don't remember. They were not here. Fucking reddit spacing and these faggots who claim
>anomylous was left leaning
You fucks act like we were one collective with the same thought process. Sure hive mind is what you get when there is blood in the water, but as OG anons grew up and matured, we naturally got involved in politics and our personal beliefs caused the rifts that killed what was once a lulzy shitfest to evolve into the absolute cancer this place has become.
anomalous was never left leaning, it was never right leaning, it was just the internet hate machine that fueled the internets darker corners. Some anons went completely underground when they realized that privacy and anonymity were being stolen from us at a record pace. Some anons are dancing sparkle ponies that thrive on recognition and acknowledgement from their peers (aka tripfags, anons claiming responsibility for raids and hacks).
>t. oldfag

[Anonymous No.13499460]

>>13499398
yeahletstalklikethisallthetimethatstrue4channerdontspaceoutyourposttomakeitmoreaestheticallypleasing


fucking fag

[Anonymous No.13499547]

>>13499460
bug chasing pozzed fags like you will get gassed first

[Anonymous No.13499596]

>>13499547
do you know where you are

white grills > chinks btw

[Anonymous No.13499671]

>>13495090
Not sure, OP in that thread didn't mention.

I believe my final explanation is correct though (although, my use of the term 'Loss' is a bit suspect, as the amount Allocated to APIC and RE might actually be Contra-Equity - but I didn't want to get into technicalities)

pic from here: https://www.wallstreetprep.com/knowledge/guide-balance-sheet-projections/

[Anonymous No.13499804]

>>13492636
ahh yes, I remember when Voltaire first said this

[Anonymous No.13499838]

>>13492636
>oh, you believe in [plausible thing]? Do you believe flat Earth too HURR DURRRR?!