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9960137 No.9960137 [Reply] [Original]

Name me one good college "degree" or cert which isn't math heavy that will make actual money. (Business majors excluded)

>> No.9960146

>>9960137
COMMUNICATIONS

>> No.9960160

>>9960137
medicine

>> No.9960168

>>9960137
$80 000 debt
why people do this?

>> No.9960196

gender studies

>> No.9960198

>>9960196
troll ;]

>> No.9960200

Maths followed hy a PhD in Maths is an excellent life choice.

>> No.9960206

>>9960168
And then blame others for their decision

>> No.9960224

>>9960200
muh 200k starting

>> No.9960253

>>9960137
CS

>> No.9960258

>>9960137
2 years to get into nursing. nursing covers a vast swath of activities, including things that have nothing to do with dealing with patients. it's pretty much jack-of-all-trades. I'm talking about the US, of course.

could also go PA.

>> No.9960274

>>9960137
geology

>> No.9960318

>>9960168
>>9960206
>t. idiots who were spoon fed live paths by their boomer cancer parents

>> No.9960339

people in america are retarded
they go to college, spend there like 3 years wasting time and not earning money and even getting themselves tens of thousands of dollars in debt
if they just started working straight off the bat they would have 3 years advance in working and no debts
before collegefags even pay that debt the noncollegefag will be 10x better off

>> No.9960375

Unironically mining. Look at mining colleges and their starting salaries.

>> No.9960435

>>9960375

>when you get black lung at 30

>> No.9960462

>>9960137
Mass comm and marketing unironically
But that is heavily dependent whether you can make the right relationships/connections with the right people.

>> No.9960472

>>9960339
where you are from?

>> No.9960478
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9960478

>>9960137


Buy lots of cryptos to get out of debt.

>> No.9960496

>>9960478
>I am the 99%
>graduated in the top 10%
the absolute state of normalfags

>> No.9960507
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9960507

>>9960496

>> No.9960519
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9960519

discord / frwKGpg
BIZ DISCORD GET IN HERE FAGS
discord / frwKGpg
BIZ DISCORD GET IN HERE FAGS

>> No.9960531

>>9960137
Psych, arguably...if it's done right.

>> No.9960547

>>9960478
>I do porn
Nigger you know the rules

>> No.9960553

>>9960137
Nursing, medicine, physicians assistant, and dentist will all make more than STEM grads, on average. Also, those jobs won't get laid off by Pajeet and don't age discriminate when hiring.

>> No.9960566

>>9960531
This. However, you need to treat it like a business.

>> No.9960570

>>9960553
>dentistry
>not math heavy
kek

>> No.9960579

>>9960253
>cs
>not math heavy
People like you are ruining this degree

>> No.9960581

Get RedHat (RHEL) certified Any AWS cloud architect certs are good. Fucking cheaper than one semester too

>> No.9960594

>>9960570
>measurements
>Math heavy
I guess trades are now "math heavy"

>> No.9960597

>>9960137
Medicine
The greatest career a man can undertake

>> No.9960622

>>9960597
But also 10 years of schollin

>> No.9960624

>>9960622
Eight, anon.

>> No.9960662

>>9960624
Woah, look at this non-specialist doctor over here

>> No.9960684

>>9960662
>t. does not know what he is talking about
Medical school is four years, buddy. For everyone. Then you have a residency, which is paid...

>> No.9960726

>>9960137
Specialized military/private security
Sales, no shit
Anything where you sell to idiots who go to college and get money from home, eg a cute little vegan wrap place - hire a lefty bombshell and make her run the place for you

>> No.9960758

>>9960684
Ok ok. Can you take a look at one of my extremities? It is so much bigger than the guys' I see at the gym. When they see it they cower in fear and walk away. Word has gotten out about it and now I can't keep 11/10 qts away even if I beat them with a stick

>> No.9960763

>>9960507
>I work 50+ hours per week and get paid for 40

Why are people so dumb and do this?

>> No.9960791

>>9960318
Stay jelly brainlet. I have a 6 figure career from which I'll be retiring in 13 years. No student debt. Keep paying that student loan for the rest of your life on your Starbucks wage asshole.

>> No.9960795

>>9960168
people go into fields that correspond with their strengths. That doesn't always play out to be a smart financial decision but its the reality that everyone wants

>> No.9960817

>>9960791
slaving away for decades. bragging wow new level of faggot.

>> No.9960932

>>9960684
Residency pay is practically nothing. Just enough to pay for food and a roof over your head for the 8 hours a day you aren't at work.

>> No.9960958

>>9960791
>bragging about your cubicle cuck job

Sad. Someday you’ll be able to enjoy passive income like me and won’t have to work.

>> No.9960994

>>9960472
obviously a 3rd world country

>> No.9961001

>>9960932
It is ~50k a year. The problem is that doctors get eviscerated by medical school debt.

>> No.9961022

>>9960253
CS is math heavy cuckboy

>> No.9961055

>>9960791
>13 years
lmao

>> No.9961065

>>9960579
>>9961022
CS is a big field, if you just want to do retarded web dev stuff you can easily get by with just basic arithmetic

>> No.9961093

> Spent $15K relocating

How is this even possible? If you are homeless you have less stuff than I do & all my stuff fits in 5 plastic totes (I just get a new $30 CL mattress every time I move).

Tough time believing this.

>> No.9961138

>>9960137
Get AWS certifications anon. You can learn the material for cheap on Udemy then take the tests and be a solution architect or sysadmin.

>> No.9961150

>>9960958
and how do you generate passive income ?
i mean how do you do it ?

>> No.9961167

I'm a dentist. Wages are better than any other graduate except top tier maths/econ schools. But there is stress, risk of litigation, student debt and fees to balance that out. Also you have to act like a normie all day and keep your spaghetti securely in your trousers in front of patients so that they can trust you.

>> No.9961185

>>9960791

> Stay jelly brain let in 13 Year’s I can afford all the carnival cruise ships I want

>> No.9961215

>>9961093
yeah this is the biggest thing that makes it clear her story doesn't make sense. also >140k student loans
I wonder what college costs that fucking much. Her parents supposedly paid it, but she still has college loans to pay?
I know the economy is shit and many people are genuinely in situations similar to what she is describing, but her own story reeks of bullshit.

>> No.9961253

>>9960791
>13 years
OH NONONONONON

>> No.9961266

>>9960274
Fucking this

>> No.9961276

>>9961065
you dont even need a cs degree to do webdev. but webdev pay is shit. its like 40k unless you are sr. developer which takes a couple years to get to

>> No.9961331

>>9961167
In America? If so, how is the saturation? I feel there is a dentist on every block now.

>> No.9961345

>how will I pay it back
Pay 1000 a year for 80 years
easy

>> No.9961348

Union electrician. Travel where the big jobs are. Ride the books collecting unemployment checks in the winter. Pension and annuity. Works not tough. Just don’t take a foreman position, work as a Journeyman and go back to the books. I’m making over 70 grand a year and take near 4 months off a year waiting for a work call that I want to take, collect unemployment and smoke weed

>> No.9961350

>>9960137
Idk but whatever you do, avoid law school. Literally ruined my life.

>> No.9961360

>>9960137
Go ROTC or to a military academy and literally anything is worth it. You can retire at like 42 and earn a hefty pension. Normalfaggot veterans will also be impressed that you're a lieutenant colonel. Political Science, Journalism, or International Relations is probably the best because it's easier to do consulting, news, teaching, and think-tank shit after you retire. It also opens the door to law or business school.

>> No.9961370

>>9961345
>Does not realize student loans have interest

>> No.9961413

>>9960137
computer sience

>> No.9961426
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9961426

>>9960507
>I AM THE 56%!
everytime

>> No.9961450

Can you get interviews with just a couple tech certs without having job related experience? Don't want to waste my time getting certs if they are useless.

>> No.9961574

>>9960478
>only Bachelor in a science related field
>only applying for around 90 jobs before giving up

The absolute state of the 99%.

>> No.9961587

>>9960478
Why didn't she become a PA?

>> No.9961604

>>9961266
geology is actually pretty important. without them, you could end up with a building that eventually collapses because it was built on shitty land because the engineers didn't know any better and didn't consult a geologist beforehand.

it's also not easy. you're expecting to be well versed in chemistry, physics, and applied mathematics.

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9961638

Nursing's pretty good, and given that there's a huge shortage of nurses hospitals will pay you the big bucks to come work for them (avoid med surg recovery floors though they're shit tier, do a specialty if you can)

>>9960684
>Then you have a residency, which is paid...
Don't talk up residency like it isn't the shittiest thing in existence. I have a friend who's started it and she had to stay at the hospital for nearly 3 days straight. Honestly not sure if she ever left the building during that time

>> No.9961665

>>9961638
>Don't talk up residency like it isn't the shittiest thing in existence. I have a friend who's started it and she had to stay at the hospital for nearly 3 days straight. Honestly not sure if she ever left the building during that time
Not all residencies are equal, desu. What specialty is she planning to enter?

>> No.9961678

>>9961331
Dental association keeps number of dentists artificially low. There is a shortage right now.

>> No.9961679

>>9961348
I audit you fuckers. I wish I wasn’t a brainlet and went to a trade school instead of Debt University

>> No.9961714

>>9961665
>What specialty is she planning to enter?
Pediatrics

>> No.9961974

>>9961604
You mean geophysics, not geology

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9961998

>>9960168
kek dont live in a 3rd world shithole then where uni costs bucks

>> No.9962007

>>9961665
What's residency like for Psychiatry? My cousin is in med-school, and that's what he's planning on doing.

>> No.9962036

>>9962007
I don't really know anything about the doctor side of psych, but I'm pretty sure it's hell no matter what level you're working at. More power to anyone that can deal with that shit

>> No.9962301

>>9961350
What happened? Plz explain. Was gonna do it but hear horrible things.
>>9961679
Are you in audit? What firm?

>> No.9962668

OP here
i was thinking criminal justice??

>> No.9962738

>>9962668
Horrible major, constantly on the list of highest unemployment for majors

>> No.9962748

>>9962738
Anything similar?
I don't understand math past basic algebra.

>> No.9962761

>>9962748
You're not going to make it then.

>> No.9962806

>>9962761
got a data sheet on the degree vs unemployment rate?

>> No.9962842

Trades

>> No.9962843

>>9960137
HOW THW FUCK PEOPLE FROM AMERICA STILL STUDY IN THEIR SHITTY UNIVERSITIES FOR RETARDED PEOPLE WHAT THE FUCK JUST COME TO EUROPE AND GET BETTER EDUCATION AND FOR 1/100 OF THE PRICE SOURCE I'VE STUDIED BOTH AT CORNELL AND ETH ZURICH IF YOU STILL STUDY IN THE US YOU ARE A FUCKING BRAINLET AND YOU DESERVE THAT MASSIVE DEBT IDIOOOOOOOOOT

>> No.9962942

>>9960507
fucking brainwashed retard
>hurr durr the elite work hard and deserve all the nice things
>it's totally fair that i have to work 50+ hours per week and get paid for 40

where do you think the money goes, you stupid 56% bitch?

>> No.9963061

>>9961998
Most of europe is 2nd or flat out 3rd world.

>> No.9963081

>>9960274
This.
>100k oil salary or 60-80k environmental. >Tons of govt jobs doing easy work.
>100k mining jobs
>barely any math, just rocks
Really the best stem field with low math use and still doing science stuff.

>> No.9963093

>>9960137
I have a communications degree (Television/Radio/Film). I went to a private university (40k-50k per year when I was there in 2001-2005). I work in television, mostly freelance. I make 150k-200k per year, depending on the projects.

However, other than having a good 'name' for my university, it did not help me any better other than connections in the industry.

Had I been paying for my own college, going to a public or in-state university would have been cheaper and I would have gotten the same education.

Community college would not work, even though you'd be learning the same material. The appeal of having a 'big university' opened doors.

>> No.9963322

>>9963081
Not wIth a bachelors.

t. Masters in geo and youll be really really lucky to pull 6 figs

>> No.9963416

>>9960472
Czech republic
>>9960994
no fren

>> No.9963657

>>9960570
I'm a third year dental student. other than calculating dosages for local anesthetics or prescriptions, and maybe the whole managing a business side of things in private practice.. there's no math involved

>> No.9963768

>>9960478
where's her porn?

>> No.9963914

>>9960137
Get a degree in whatever the fuck you want and party through undergrad and then go to Law School.

No math needed

>> No.9963915

>>9961714
Started snickering reading this in the bathroom and radiology bro in the next stall asked me wtf I was laughing at, I told him and we shared a hearty kek.
Your freind chose a specialty with a shitty residency, and incidentally low post residency pay.
If there are any aspiring doctors in this thread, do what you love but keep in mind that,as a general rule, the less specialized you are the more your residency is going to suck mostly because of simple patient volume. Surgical residency sucked for a different set of reasons but all in all I'd say I had it better than the GP and ped schmucks.
I also highly recommend going .mil with the HPSP, get paid to go through med school and get the full GI bill when you fulfill your contract, signing bonuses are also available.

>> No.9963951

>>9960478
WHERE is her porn?

>> No.9964026

>>9960339
dumbass there's no way you can get a job as good straight outta highschool as you can get after doing college with an actually useful major.

>> No.9964218

>>9961360
>did this
>top 20 school
>dual engineering and business degree
>decide to try to be pilot retire at 42 and go to business school after
>gubment realizes my good grades
>sent to submarine instead of flight school
Don’t be like me anons

>> No.9964344

>>9960168
>why people do this?

Why to Capitalist put people into slavery?

>> No.9964345

>>9960507
she smoke though not wife material because she is a brainlet

>> No.9964388

>>9964344
that not you mixed up capitalism and feudalism. capitalsim is about free trade.
anyways, why do socialists strave their people?

>> No.9964406

>>9961360
>The absolute state of conmen.

Why do military men lie like they are from a MLM group.

>> No.9964683

>>9963061
You haven't been to the Third World m80, i can tell

>> No.9964715

>>9960258
This desu,my gf finished up an LPN program last year,the bitch is making 23 an hour at 23, and she only went to school for it, and the school costs like 9k, it just seems like a cheat code desu

>> No.9964794

>>9960375
This is actually a smart and unique answer. There's an awesome mining school somewhere around Denver. Denver is fucking dope as it is.

>> No.9964830

Literally anything at a school with a ROTC program.

>> No.9964843

>>9960137
If you get a degree hoping it will help you, you fucked up.
They aren't some right of passage that yields a benefit.

The owner must be prepared to apply the learned skill.

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>>9964344
governments guaranteeing loans to students is not capitalism, buddy.

>> No.9964897

>>9964794
Colorado School of Mines

Buddy's dad went there. He never lived the baller lifestyle, but he's had a 4000 square foot mansion for 30 years and never wanted for money. He also traveled the globe doing mineral assays and sampling and saw some really cool / fucked up shit in Africa / Asia.

Would recommend, and I regret that I didn't go that route.

>> No.9964985

>>9960137
step aside with all these virgin academics, whats a good sport in college that can get me noticed and land me an actual career

>> No.9965205

>>9960137
Geology?

>> No.9965355

is CIS worth it bros? Im too much of a brainlet for CS....

>> No.9965373

>>9960137
>not Math heavy

Fuck off and stay poor. EE major , MSc in Cryptography and CS or stay poor

>> No.9965584

>>9960137
just lol @ university cucks. I'm glad they're going to be debt slaves their entire lives.

>> No.9965612

>>9964715
Im 25 and i make 200 average an hour
And i have an art degree

>> No.9965623

>>9960137
radiation specialist

>> No.9965656
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9965656

What's it gonna do fags?

>> No.9965725

>>9960507
>le 56%
La Creatura...

>> No.9965769

>>9961331
In the UK. It's saturated everywhere that's decent. But everyone needs a dentist so unemployment is still very low, although you might have to work in a shithole town/village if you can't get a job in the city.

>> No.9966027

>>9964715
23 an hour is less than a good waitress makes

>> No.9966127

>>9964388
> capitalsim is about free trade.

Who's labor is that? The people. The Root core of capitalism is always slavery. Been like that since the history of capitalism was born.

>governments guaranteeing loans to students is not capitalism, buddy

Profiting off of the people using high interest rates is definitely slavery. Why do you think the term debt slavery exist. Yes that is also capitalism. Thanks, dogmatist.

>> No.9966155

>>9960507
she has that hosueplant, that's something she bought that she doesnt need. fuck millenials and their entitlement syndrome.

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>>9966155
> fuck millenials and their entitlement syndrome.
>I'm going to assume this millennial lives there! surely she is not at a library, college, or a community center or her job. I'll just judge a book by a cover!

You know who's an embarrassment to the boomer generation? Donald Trump. Ya know, putting children in internment camps! Kim jong un was right! He is a dotard. You should honestly be embarrassed by this clown. He represents YOUR boomer generation!

>> No.9966967

>>9960137
>which isn't math heavy that will make actual money. (Business majors excluded)

medical, vetinary, electronic engineering, computer science

>> No.9966995

>>9966210
Ah fuck off. Family law courts have been separating parents from kids forever and became they were fathers no one gave a shit and now when its immigrants the left is outraged.

>> No.9967031

dietician?

>> No.9967376

>>9964344
(((Capitalists))) or (((bankers))) yep its definitely not one tribe, it's free trade.

>> No.9967419

>>9960137

Im a biochemical engineer. I made quite the money with a patent of a kit that identifies the most common and not so common transgenic elemtns on GMO crops.

Sorry for bad english :)

>> No.9968009

>>9966995
> Family law courts have been separating parents from kids forever

Literally apples to oranges.

First of all. Reason why those happen is because

A: child abuse
B: Poor conditions
C: CPS are under funded.

Which by the way Dotard president has defunded CPS.

Nice try, boomer.

>> No.9968035

>>9964026
You can go get a one year cert from a trade school and make more than you can from most worthless majors while saving tens of thousands.

>> No.9968047

>>9966210
>muh child camps
Trump wanted to send the spics back with their parents.

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9968048

>>9960478
Good advice

>> No.9968062

>>9960137
Engineering degrees (ME, EE, IE, etc)

>> No.9968069

>>9960478
>full time job in biochem field
>making only $18k a year
Calling bullshit on this.

>> No.9968101

>>9961678
No there isn't. Dentistry is cut throat in the US in metro areas and suburbs. Basically anywhere you would want to live is saturated with dentists. It's a race to the bottom for dentists just like MDs trying to beat each other out while insurance companies fuck us in the ass more and more each year. The dental associations have been in bed with the insurance companies for 20 years. Foreign graduates are pushed through private dental schools in 2 years and get a license equivalent to fully trained US students. Dentistry is a fucking meme for anybody out there wondering unless you go on a full ride military scholarship. It ain't worth it.

>> No.9968114

>>9968101
I should add to this that any areas that have a legitimate shortage of dentists have little demand for routine dental care. People that live in the sticks don't give a fuck about their teeth. They typically just need/want emergency treatment and can't pay for anything else. No competition with other dentists but you can't make a good living and you're stuck living in the middle of nowhere.

>> No.9968142

>>9960137
Industrial Enginnering + Six Sigma etc isn't too math heavy

>t. accidental industrial engineer with no engineering degree

>> No.9968215

>>9960168
Well, I made this mistake. When I graduated HS I wanted to just relax, work a normal job and think about what I wanted to do. My single mom pressured me to joining a liberal arts college. I said no but agreed to go to the enrollment office and talk about it.

At the enrollment office I was told "wow, with your SAT scores and low income background you'll probably almost get a free ride here". Now I'm a dumb little fuck at this time not really knowing what's going on, and I just agree to it. My mom was hardcore pushing me to do it, no hesitation, everyone saying "you can transfer out anyway". They really try to sell it and it's hard to say no when your parents are telling you to shut up they're doing you a favor and that it's for your future.

So I'm going to college, doing well, working at the same time, and all the while not realizing I was racking up tons of debt and I didn't get as much financial aid as I thought I would. Apparently I didn't write as many essays as I should have and being white/male doesn't help either.

Either way I dropped out and I got disabled to my student loans were forgiven anyway. But I understand why this happens. Dumb fucking moms get all excited and you're some stupid 18 year old that doesn't know what's going on really. Then factor in at the time I had no idea what kind of scam I was signing up for. Then factor in I wasn't really college material. I didn't really want to go, but I was so used to waking up and going to school and doing what I was told leading up to this point I hardly second guessed it.

College is a scam now. Don't direct your anger at the kids who are most often doing what they're told. Direct your anger at the loan agencies and the faculty who sat around and allowed academia to become a joke.

And if you're suffering with student loans, are poor and don't see a way out... get disabled, one way or another.

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>>9968069
Unemployment was very high. And the largest banking crisis occured at that time too.

>> No.9968284

User Experience. Almost at 6 figgies not even 3 years in.

>> No.9968296

>>9968047
>Make a policy to seperate children from their family.
>Immigration has zero plan and reuniting the seperated children with their parents
>Change policy for immigrant family for be with children but also at the internment camps

Yeah, anon that totally make it better,

>> No.9968503

>>9960137
If you aren't going for Computer Engineering the only degree that matters is business at a target school with the intent of getting into a top IB/Consulting(Big 3)/Accounting(Big 4) position. Otherwise the only way to even sniff 100k is by having actual talent in an artistic field, working long hours at something undesirable, or sales/recruiting.

>> No.9968536

>>9968284
second this, but you can't be an absolute retard.

>> No.9968537

>>9968503
Whoops meant to say software engineering/computer science. Also throw in Law/Medical in to that shit as well, those can make you over 100k easily.

>> No.9968872

>>9960137
computer science

>> No.9968991

>>9964344
Why do socialists execute or stave everyone disagreeing with their retarded and unsustainable ideology?

>> No.9969038

not one person said the correct answer. Philosophy majors make a lot cause duh.

>> No.9969461

>>9960137
CCNP

>> No.9969637

>>9966155
Maybe she is taking care of it for a fren. She does seem like the type.

>> No.9969669

>>9961022
Math major here. It really isn't

>> No.9969690

>>9969669
Nerd

>> No.9969777

>>9960137
how the fuck these retards get $80,000 debt when I can't get a $2,000 car loan with very good credit without jumping thru a million hoops

>> No.9970116

>>9968069
In her case, swallowing drug addicts' loads = biochem field.

>> No.9970117

>>9965612
Well, and what are you doing out there, anon? Don't leave us hanging.

>> No.9970144

>>9970117
He spends and hour making an Etsy listing for a $200 painting that took him two months to paint.

>> No.9970158

>>9961022
It isn't.

>> No.9970210

>>9960258
medicine/nursing/etc is the way to go
it's easy enough even women make big cash
also it can't get offshored.

>> No.9970401

>>9960168
Liberals