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We all live in Texas edition

Popular brokers for stock trading:

Robinhood
>commission free and no minimum to open
http://www.robinhood.com

> How is it free?
Robinhood earns revenue by collecting interest on cash/securities and fees from their Robinhood Gold service

> It's been X days, why isn't my account verified yet?
Not being approved in 3 days seems to be the new norm. Nevertheless, call/email their support if you've been waiting more than that.

> When is it coming to my country?
The only "plans" are on an Australian and Chinese beta. Neither of which has gained much traction.

Interactive Brokers
>$1 commission per 100 shares. $10k minimum to open, $3k if 25 or under. Lowest margin interest. Free API access
http://www.interactivebrokers.com

TD Ameritade
>$6.95 commission per trade. No minimum to open. Fantastic data/charting through their free ThinkorSwim service
http://www.tdameritrade.com

Degiro (Cheap broker for Europeans)
http://www.degiro.eu

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/

Free in depth charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Data:
http://www.nasdaq.com/extended-trading/premarket-mostactive.aspx
https://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/
https://www.cnbc.com/pre-markets/

Earnings Report Calendars:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com/

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

CNBC Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/cnbc-america.html
Fox Business Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/business/fox-business-network-fbn.html
Bloomberg Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

Basic rundown on options:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBAQtjyqNHw [Open] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuTTzfa4ePE [Open] [Embed]

>> No.9904514
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hello I am new friend
Can someone give me a list of stocks to watch?

>> No.9904533

Previous thread was to shitty to mention.

>> No.9904537
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this is my first post!

>> No.9904542

>comfy literally too retarded to use a mic

can't say i'm surprised

>> No.9904543

>>9904514
TOPS
AMRS
DRYS
TEVA
UVXY
SKYY

This is what peak preformance looks like.

>> No.9904555

No one knows who I am in this thread. Still waiting on feet pics btw

>> No.9904570

>>9904555
You won't be getting them fren

>> No.9904571

>>9904543
Forgot
TVIX
CARV
DEAN
NWL

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and by the way
haha

If you didnt buy PEP
just looooooooool
lolololol

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>>9904504
>I have to hunt down normies to work with because everyone thinks I'm a serial killer on the inter-webs.

>> No.9904615

>>9904543
AMRS is fucked in the short term, no way you are seeing it above $6 for a long time.
In a few years time it will maybe get to mid-teens though.
t. AMRS bag holder

>> No.9904619

Is tastyworks a good broker?

>> No.9904629

>>9904602
You should hire kneepads, pay her monthly, and if you're lucky she'll croak in hospice before you have to.

>> No.9904635

>>9904619
I've never heard of it, what does it do TD doesn't?

>> No.9904644

>>9904629
If customers start asking me to find them hookers I'm in way too deep.

>> No.9904645

>>9904543
>>9904571
okay I added those onto my watchlist
but what is the point of watch TVIX and UVXY
aren't they extremely swingy and unstable? Like I sort of understand they measure volatility but why watch that daily?

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>>9904453
Texas = New Jerusalem
We even have same environmental as Afghanistan!

>>9904450
Uhhh if me were say town, it too easy for find me on Tinder / other dating apps
Not that someone who cared couldn't already doxx me in 5 mins

>> No.9904655
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>Accidentally bought a put for cisco
>couldn't sell it before the market closed because I was at work
how do you voluntarily sterilize yourself?

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>>9904645

>> No.9904666

Hi stock friends.

I'm not much of an investor. Work for Uncle Sam in securing imaginary lines on maps.

I hear tell of an effort between Maersk shipping and IBM to invest heavily in block chain for global trade. My agency is pretty much in the bag for it, think it will be yuge down the road. I'd rather invest in crypto, but it's more of a platform than a branded coin.

Thinking about just investing in IBM and Maersk. Any suggestions/thoughts, experts?

>> No.9904669

>>9904645
Yes that’s the point, you swing trade them not hodl. You buy them, hope something bad happens to the market, and then hopefully sell them for a profit the next day. Pretty sure you can use them to hedge on volatility, but I’m a brainlet so I don’t do that.

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>>9904615
I know that feel too

But I am a bit more optimistic (delusional ?)

AMRS may well be on the path to commercialize the next gen sweetener in Q318
That may be the near term catalyst

Also, market is still ignoring AMRS's guidance and is pricing it like before. If Melo continues to deliver on his promises, the market may give it a higher ratio (remember, P/Sales is only 1.5 the guidance)

Right now, I am worried about the trucker strikes in Brazil. I wonder how that impacted AMRS's supply in sugarcane.

>> No.9904673

>>9904635
cheap commissions

>> No.9904685

>>9904645
Add ROAD too
Price target: $16

And an anon here works for them

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dow and sp unchanged, eur did not bounce, commodities took yesterdays rally back. a good week overall for most stock holders

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>>9904666
CRYPTOKEK
Buffet sold IBM for a reason

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if oil trades under $60 with a downfall there will be a panic all around again cause they will think it will hit 25 again. middle east, russia and canada all too dependant on wti price

>> No.9904716

>>9904666
Apart from BTC, everything else is a scam
Even BTC is risky: it is either a new asset class, or it is totally worthless

How will the blockchain technology create value in the shitting business ?

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Up another thousand from yesterday

in the current NASH drug hype

>> No.9904741

>>9904714
MRO is undervalued by about a buck fifty, if thats enough to consider it for you.

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>>9904741
meh, very rarely do i buy individual stocks. they r completely trading vehicles, not for hodl

>> No.9904769

>>9904602
Well yeah, why wouldn't they?
>>9904644
But you'll never see it coming.

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>>9904666
thanks for the tip and for your service. Please quit and stop living off the gov't teet

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Shill me some good options

>> No.9904826

>Trump kickstarts a literal trade war
>markets still almost finish green

The golden bull rides on.

>> No.9904831
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Hello everyone

>> No.9904844

>>9904831
Your image reminds me of every time I have ever been to walmart. Fat scooters ruined America.

>> No.9904846

>>9904824
>3d pig

>> No.9904847

>>9904826

*priced in*

>> No.9904852

Sorry about the livestream, tech is hard :'(

>>9904799
I found out some of my coworkers are living off the governments teet. They literally work full time and make good money for where I live, go on vaccations to china and all over, buy new cars, and they're on welfare! MY TAXES ARE SUPPORTING PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE THAN I DO

>> No.9904855

>>9904648
K. What’s the nearest large city then.

>> No.9904857

>>9904799

Someone has to keep cocaine expensive m8

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>>9904826
Based trumpy gives us these dips strategically to buy
Smart money knows whats going on

>> No.9904865

>>9904852
>I found out some of my coworkers are living off the governments teet. They literally work full time and make good money for where I live, go on vaccations to china and all over, buy new cars, and they're on welfare! MY TAXES ARE SUPPORTING PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE THAN I DO
Do they work for the government?

>> No.9904870

VZ working on 5G pro tip

>> No.9904878

Buy SVRA.

Even conservative estimates have it at mid-20s, which considering it's 14 dollars that's over 100%. And you can rely on a obscenely bullish $40 dollar call from Evercore to push the stock up more and more.

IT might even see 40, too, if the news from their June 20 exhibition is that good.

>> No.9904881

>>9904865
No, they get food stamps which is the government teet.

>> No.9904892

>>9904859

i'm not buying these anymore. stacking my paychecks since the end of march until the next 10 or more correction. pumped a lot in feb-may

>> No.9904906

>>9904892
Be in before August frend.

>> No.9904913

>>9904881
How do I get food stamps while I work full time? I want some

>> No.9904916

>>9904906

i'm basically fully invested. what i mean is that my shit continues to pump and i have stopped buying in biweekly. i'm going to stack my checks until there's a better opportunity.

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>>9904892
I dont think you quite understand the implications of the golden bull sir

There isnt going to be another 10% correction, you had your chance in february, and now its gone

>> No.9904928

>>9904716

Fair question. All along the supply chain are delays and inefficiencies based off historical practice not logic. From supplier to consumer, there are contracts, bonds, transport costs etc which could all be seamless, paperless, and painless with block chain. I agree with their thoughts on this.

>> No.9904941

All of my military buddys claimed disability and get 500-2k per month for the rest of their lives

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>>9903190
>the absolute state of incel posters
Reflecting on past action what cucks do
Who cares if me lost today ! Me win 2x tomorrow!

>> No.9904957

Not going to lie ive made like ten times the money following wallstreetbets memes than stuff here but I like you guys more :(

>> No.9904961

>>9904941
DI policies are more important than anything. You can literally get it due being "mentally unwell" IE you are "stressed and can't work".

>> No.9904965

>>9904926

holdings up 21% ytd. breaking out the upper bollinger band. rsi over 70. surely they will at least correct to the midline if not under it at some point in the next months. if not and they continue to moon, that is a good problem to have an i will have an actual emergency fund of cash for once

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>>9904655
I have made a Grave Error

>> No.9904991

>>9904693

Help me out why he sell

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>>9904953
you get nothing because tomorrow saturday

>> No.9905008

>>9904991
apple will put them out of buisness

>> No.9905010

>>9904961
Oh no they still work, get job preferences, involved in full contact sports, drive nice cars, and REEEEEEE if their disability check isn't in the mail on the first

>> No.9905040

>>9905010
Ya, you can get something called occupational disability. If you can't perform your CURRENT job, you get disability to cover the difference between it and your current one. anything from 0 to the moon. With tax hijinks you can make way more money.

>> No.9905045

>>9904504
how come getting into stocks is so much harder than crypto? and whenever i ask this noone ever answers me. how am i supposed to see where i can see every stock easily much like coinmarketcap

>> No.9905056

>>9905045
stop being fucking retarded!

>> No.9905065

>>9905045
What? Stocks are much easier/have way more resources than crypto

>> No.9905068

>>9905045
Harder in what sense?

>> No.9905090

>>9905045
>how come getting into stocks is so much harder than crypto?
Crypto is only easy because it's all a ponzi scheme, a literal guessing game of when you can get in and get out before the coming exit scam. Use google and investopedia and stop being lazy. Expect to take some losses in the beginning because you actually have to use your brain, unlike crypto.

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>>9905045
>>9905056
>>9905065
>>9905068
>>9905090

>Giving you's to a troll

>> No.9905178
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>>9904514
as a proud 5% shareholder of UVXY inc, my suggestion may come with somewhat of a bias, but i can assure you that it is nonetheless, very sound.

you see a lot of "low IQ" or "hihg IQ" shitposting around here. and thats all well and good for when times are good. but when times are tough, high IQ will not save you.
only HIGH TEST can save you.

thats where UVXY comes in.
you see, UVXY inc is the major player in the fear commoditization business. we thrive while others are suffering.

and the reason?
our fearless leader, CEO mike tyson is back in charge.

take a look at that chart. you see way back when? that was UVXYs IPO. $1M per share. that peak? when mike had to step down. the most recent run? mikes return to the market.

dont you see? its the most undervalued company in the world. tensions are high, fear is in the air, and the worlds leader in the fear sector is sitting at 99.9% down over the last few years.

its the most obvious buy in all of wallstreet.
BUY it and NEVER sell

>> No.9905184

>>9905146
how am i trolling retarded anime poster. i dont understand how someone could get into stocks when opposite to crypto which the only thing you need to do is have one exchange which has all the coins you need to make money and coinmarketcap is an entire archive of all the coins there are on the market

i simply dont undertstand where something similar exists in stocks

>> No.9905187

>>9905146
i cant tell in this state of mind
anyone could take advantage of me right now

>> No.9905190

>>9905184
what the fuck is wrong with you

>> No.9905199

>>9905184
chill teh fuck out nigga

>> No.9905203

Why did everyone forget about NAK?

>> No.9905213

>>9905146
>pic
Suddenly I feel like I've seen you somewhere before.

>>9905187
Be wary anon of bait.
>>9905184
You're going to need to answer the other questions.

>> No.9905229

>>9905184
Educate yourself, read the sticky, lurk, read some books. People don't mind giving advice but you are asking for a shortcut.

>> No.9905246

>>9905184
the reason its confusing to you is that its completely different

crypto is like a hybrid between weird OTC stocks, and forex. dont be surprised when absolutely none of the things you "know" from crypto are dangerously inapplicable.

to learn, read books. read investopedia. take a small amount and try your hand at it. there are more things that affect stocks prices, more things that support them, more utilities to trade them with and a number of other things you dont have. its also far bigger than the crypto market. and theres a LOT more moving pieces.

just read books

>> No.9905252

>>9905178
lel

>> No.9905267

>>9905213
Pls don't reveal sekrit identity

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blahhaha

>> No.9905292

>>9905045
You want to see a list of every single stock on the entire exchange? Why? Use market scanners or trade companies or industries that you know a lot about.

It's not like coins where you buy a couple and expect them to moon and take over the entire market which is the retarded game that crypto plays. In the stock market it doesnt matter If a stock goes up, down, or sideways, you can make money on any and all movement if you can predict it or guess correctly. You could just trade a single stock your whole life and get massive gains on it without that stock growing or falling much at all. That's the beauty of it.

You're asking and somewhat raging doe someone to explain the stock market to you in a post on 4chan. No one is gonna spoonfeed you and judging by your attitude your probably not bright enough to be a successful trader so maybe you wanna go back to crypto threads and fomo-ing all your neetbucks away

>> No.9905348

>>9904824
VIX180822C00028000
T180622C00034000

>> No.9905368

>>9905267
Oh come on, how accurate can I be?

>>9905272
?

>> No.9905378
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>>9905348
youre saying UVXY incs ER is gonna be a smash? thats what im thinking too. ill see you at the lambo dealership on the moon

>> No.9905436

>>9905010
Friend of mine did this. Bought a 400k house, both drives bmws. All while jobless in college.

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Never seen any Dean's products then my store is filled with them overnight

Confirmed, buying Dean's on open Monday

>> No.9905446

>>9905378
Puts are also cheap af right now if you want some milk money before the panic.

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>>9905090

Holy shit somebody with an actual brain. Why are you still posting on this cesspit? I suppose I could ask myself the same thing...

>Muh (insert crypto here) is the future!
>Muh ponzi scheme is the future!

Pic related, your average den/biz/en

>> No.9905477

>>9905436
That's the VA loan for you.

It's a ridiculously good deal and you don't even have to have a down payment.

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>> No.9905554

I wouldn't be investing in any stocks right now. Whether you are well read investor or not. Buying into things at their all time high is just common sense. Crypto crashed very quickly from it's all time high. Stock market is due for a long and painful correction. It just takes longer to fall from the all time high since it is such a well developed market.

>> No.9905562

we should include
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
in the OP

>> No.9905568

>>9905554
Literally no way to tell whether a crash will occur any week or month from now or whether it'll happen 2 years from now. Don't time the market, faggot.

>> No.9905640

thoughts on GE? They have a pretty good div/yield

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COMFYYYYYYYY

>> No.9905646

>>9905446
unironically what i doing
short bonds too over the weekend
oh, and metals

anything i miss? gonna reshort EMs monday too probably

>> No.9905675

>>9904967
on second thought I might've actually blundered into a pretty penny if the market poops itself like everyone's saying on monday

>> No.9905694

>>9905446
also
whens panic?

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>>9905640
wew nevermind

how do you fuck up such a long running company so hard so fast

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I feel /really sorry/ for those that didnt go balls deep in BAC at 28, C at 65, and JPM at 106

they are raisiing divs 100% next year you fools, the ralley end of year will be the greatest youve ever seen in your pathetic lives

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>>9905642
A week of no podcasts due to potato shenanigans and “working on the stream”, we get no stream and no pods! I love the guy because I highly enjoy the podcast, but what the FUCK does he think he’s doing?!

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Hey faggots what am I doing wrong.

>> No.9905805

>>9905675
were all gonna make it

>>9905743
gomfys just an autist and bad under pressure

>>9905765
not enough UVXY

>> No.9905807

>>9905765
Buying shit at random

>> No.9905829

>>9905765
this too >>9905807

diversification is for when you have some wealth to protect. your gonna just flutter around from day to day with one share of random bullshit

>> No.9905845

>>9905765
>what am I doing wrong.

Using robinhood

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>>9905554
>He doubts the golden bull run

>> No.9905873

so what usually happens to stock prices around the end of a quarter, seeing as how q2 ends in two weeks

>> No.9905900

>>9905873
It jumps or falls 25% overnight after the company reports earnings. The couple of hours before the ER is the degenerate gambler's p-spot.

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>>9905554
>not being to make money on a crash
Pleb

>> No.9905926

>>9905873

it's not about a quarter and nothing "usually happens" that you can use to time. the only thing you need to know is that earnings for the rest of the year at least will be good and the bull's horns are pointed up until something changes

>> No.9905985

>>9905829
What should be my strategy then? Dump everything into one stock I bet on?

>> No.9906007

>>9905985
pls don't

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>>9905829

>dont diversify

>> No.9906043

>>9905985
look for things that are undervalued/down for no reason or with some bullish catalyst. buy some. dont go all in. when/if it goes down more, buy more and average down. hold it. when it looks like its reversing, sell some, buy back when it gets lower. repeat.

im just saying theres plenty of undervalued things that arent 60+/share. youre buying tech because its up right now. you wanna buy tech when its down for no reason

>> No.9906050

>>9905713
The name alone will sell eventually, though who and how much is the big question.

There's room for a tidy profit, though, if you pay attention and jump in at the right time.

>> No.9906054

>>9906034
1 share of random ass tech/weed memes =/= diversification

>> No.9906065

>>9905985
Buy an index. Much more reliable unless you have lots of time and the willpower to day trade.

>> No.9906085

>>9906054
you misworded yourself then

>> No.9906106

>>9905743
He's just being a LITTLE BITCH

>> No.9906125

>>9905985
this >>9906065
if you like equities, buy SPY
if you like industrials, buy DIA
if you like tech buy QQQ

if you want more specific stuff you can buy sector based ETFs. stay away from the leveraged nes till you know what youre doing.
if a stock in particular catches your eye, do what i said above. this way you can actually be diverse, and not just fall for the diversification meme, buying up 1 share of random ass bullshit

>>9906085
lol sure did
i just meant he was a case example of the diversification meme gone wrong

>> No.9906152

>>9906125
Given the shift in trade and tariffs, what would you recommend in terms of betting on things like Dean Farms (dairy) etc...

>> No.9906160
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9906160

>>9904996
Me trade crypto on weekends!

>> No.9906162
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Up 21k yesterday down 14k today. Let’s see what Monday will bring. Anyone else also addicted to convexity here?

>> No.9906183

>>9906152
this guy >>9906106 knows more about consumer memes

consumers are nothing if not reliable. and divs will increase cuz thats their whole meme. just average in like i said. start thinking like a trader, not a guy throwing darts

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>>9906160
Youre going DOWN

>> No.9906235

>>9906152
Deans good buy it

>> No.9906240
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9906240

buying companies that dip and trying to scalp them is not working anymore.
this compounded with trying to turn profits with options has lost me a lot of money in a single week

hate to admit that i got lucky when i started, but I'd like to know why I'm calling them wrong.
how the hell do you identify what 'makes' a company worth more in the eyes of traders and investors?

>> No.9906258

>>9906160
How much ripple for ”””””girl””””” like you? Your boipucci’s value is definitely deprecating since apparently you’re dying soon.

>> No.9906261

its okay Comfy just take a deep breath and slow it down. No one is angry.

>> No.9906267

>>9906240
obtain Buffet vision

>> No.9906276

>>9906240

stop trading start investing. buy positions you intend to hold forever and add on large pullbacks.

>> No.9906289

>>9906240
idk man i stopped trading equities like a month and a half ago for a similar reason. my strat that WAS working, wasnt anymore. theres other securities out there. the bond ETFs have been getting more action than the indexes. commodities have been moving too. use leverage/options on those fucking things and see what you can come up with

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9906318

friendly reminder you will lose money if you use things like Candlessticks, news, economics, ect

Intuition, Mind warp, Zen, Pendulum
These are the tools that make me a profitable trader 99% of the time my whole life

>> No.9906365

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtm3vUMZEMU

>> No.9906368

>>9906160
I can hear your soul evaporate as you type that lol. Just give it up it's over for you.

>> No.9906386

>>9906160
>Me trade crypto on weekends!
hope youre short

also show tits

>> No.9906393
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9906393

https://beursproducten.vontobel.com/NL/EN/Product/DE000VN61Y30?ReturnUrl=%2FNL%2FFactor-Matrix&FromPath=Products--Product+Search--Bull+%26+Bear+Matrix--

16X LEVERAGED ETF'S

>> No.9906406

>>9906365
Based Chris BTFO bear retards daily

>> No.9906412

>>9906393
lol
i like the sound of that

>> No.9906445

>>9906406
he's my hero
The greatest golden bull

>> No.9906446

>>9906393
can you buy these as burger? and how do they reset? daily?

>> No.9906460

>>9906446
I'm not sure, I tried to look them up at my brokerage(TD bank) but couldn't find them, I'm Canadian

I would unironically buy them lmao

>> No.9906469

>>9906240
Scalping is easy as shit man, just don't force it. Stop loss things by like .05% when you think it is due for a dip and set buy at 1% below that.

>> No.9906512

you retards bought procter and gamble + colgate right?
Its not like they own the entire deodorant market share or anything

>> No.9906533

and toothpaste

you see, Millennial may not be loyal to brands but they are loyal to these shiney toothpastes like Crest, softsoap, Colgate stuff, ect
theres no alterative. They think natural tootpastes are gross

>> No.9906567

>>9906386
I don’t think she(he) has tits.

>> No.9906602

>>9906365
i like these charts

does anyone have a program that i can find and pirate to plot stuff out like this? my platform has shit all for comparative stuff outsideof simply overlaying (which works terribly if things move wildly different %s)

>> No.9906683

>>9906393
>>9906446
they're not ETFs / ETCs, they're certificates. a totally different beast. basically, they are cancelled if they hit certain prices, and all your moneys is lost.

>> No.9906730

>>9906683
Yeah there's all kinds of Jewish shit in the prospectus
>we reserve the right to ignore stop losses
>we reserve the to withhold payment upon selling
>we can liquidate any time we want

>> No.9906750

>>9906683
>>9906730
p.s. read the KID

it's nothing new, they've been around for years. they're way more complicated than options, on which they are based. so good luck with that.

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I can't believe I actually closed green today. Not much, just $35, but fuck dude, at least that's something. For sure, I thought I was gonna get JUST'd when my day change was -$200 at one point. Props to whomever kept saying to buy KHC and PEP.

>> No.9906795

>>9904504
did you guys get FUDed out?

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9906807

>>9906770
no biggie
hope you bought campbell soup back then too

>> No.9906832

>>9905554
>trying to time the market

Not gonna make it

>> No.9906905

>>9906533
Pshhh, no chance. In 15 years I doubt anyone will even be using toothpaste anymore.

>> No.9906923

thoughts on TWTR?

>> No.9906940

does anyone know what happened to the bearded tranny thing that someone found on stocktwits? cant remember the username. stuckonearth was jason.

>>9906923
>thoughts on TWTR?
saudi owned botnet

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>>9906807
I wish I had. On Monday, I think I'm gonna dump that piece of shit GE and pick up another security in the consumer goods sector, maybe GIS or CPB.

>> No.9907047

>>9906940
>saudi owned botnet
b-but it's full of porn

>> No.9907132

Going hard FB right at the bottom of the dip is the vast majority of my gains the past 8 months. These are confusing feels.

>> No.9907255

my grandfather has stock in Sirius xm and its been on fire this year

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9907279

>>9906200
Me, S&P, and DOW have something common !
>>9906258
>>9906368
;_; ... m-me only take XRP from Men w-ho have..... created their own l-l...abel.....
;_; me no want die... it not fair

>>9906386
;_; who me kiddo
Crypto market dead

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brb gonna kill myself

>> No.9907398

>>9907384
wait what happened?

>> No.9907400

>>9904504
Know any non-kyc exchanges? not giving my ssn and mmn just to make shitty 0.5% gains, when i could 100x with crypto on binance without even an id.

>> No.9907416

>>9907279
I kind of like your daily presence on /smg/. We have such a good cast of characters, it’s like something out of a John Waters movie. A terminally ill tranny, like a dozen Texans, several severe drug and alcohol addicts (I’m one of these), a handyman, a man who loves to eat lunch, and a guy too autistic to operate a microphone are on the road to becoming the great investors of tomorrow.

>> No.9907434

>>9907416
Can we at least dress as cowboys and ride on horseback?

>> No.9907443

all video game stocks are good long run... here's my theory why: boomers that don't play video games are dying off and being replaced with new gen gaming kids and 30yo millennials still play games and will likely continue to play games into their old age even if not as often.. so the population of people that play video games is constantly increasing basically for another 20-30yrs

>> No.9907444

>>9907416
kek
its a good general. that almost never happens. it helps that this is a really exciting time to be in the market tho

>> No.9907459

>>9907398
its just RH being a little spooker.
Two of my iron condors short call side expired ITM, its just how it will look until it settles monday morning.
This run up really killed a lot of my shorts and IC's, but I was mostly long so it's okay overall.

Probably should have posted it after the bell to get more (You)'s.

>> No.9907505

>>9907459
lol
i had a picture on my old computer of the time one of my stocks tickers got halted, and instead of stopping, it started dividing by zero and started sucking money out of my account and my margins at a rate of $10k/min. literally went to go get something to eat and looked back and i was in the hole $200k. on a small account too lol. spooked me too as i was actually short at the time

>> No.9907514
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9907514

B A R T

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>>9907514
>trump thump

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>>9907459
(You)'ll get 'em tomorrow.

>>9907416
I do like the namefags, but I appreciate the ratio of namefags to anonymous.
If there were too many namefags polluting the thread, then this general would become shit.
It self regulates which has been very nice, not everybody has the follow-through to be a dedicated namefag.

I will regret that there's no way to check up on you all down the line, I'm sure we're destined to do great things.

>> No.9907556

>>9907514
lol fucking bart formations need to become an actual term in finance imo
in this era of supreme manipulation via algos, they are quite common

>> No.9907560

Put money in SVRA.

I'm dead serious, by the way. It will moon.

>> No.9907566

>>9907560
why tho?

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9907613

>>9907541
>tfw Kneepad Girl never goes longterm on the SPY because their life is short term

>> No.9907654

>>9907556
Agreed. The thing about the bart is that there is no consensus on what it means, if anything, aside from a failed p&d. Only action I take with barts is a stop loss about halfway up the green candle in similar way I would stop loss a rising stair case pattern or a bull flag.

>> No.9907671

>>9907654
>The thing about the bart is that there is no consensus on what it means
it IS a mystery, and it can mean a lot of things.

whenever i see it in oil, its usually just a mugging of peoples stops. last one i traded was oil right before it started to move up.

>>9907613
so why is rkg ded?
what did i miss?

>> No.9907694

Is Nikkei a good name for a girl

>> No.9907708

>>9907671
I heard from the grapevine they have a terminal illness and will die soon
will be quite a day for SMG

>> No.9907717

>>9907671
Allegedly it’s in hospice care in Texas? Apparently they posted a pic of their hand and were sickly looking? I dunno. >>9907694
Cute!

>> No.9907737
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>>9907694
yea
but everyones just gonna call her nicky

>>9907708
>>9907717
damn
hope its a joke. were all supposed to make it

>> No.9907760

>>9907737
when I saw kneepads arm and hand, the first thing that came to mind was "this isnt human looking"

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9907797

>>9907514
BART'd
A
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T
'
d

>> No.9907822

Thoughts on HMNY? Potential?

>> No.9907847

>>9907822

$0

>> No.9907849

>>9907822
Garbage, instantly ignore anything from HMNY shills and bagholders

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>>9907760
damn

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9907977

What do you guys think about the future of nuclear energy / power plants? I wanna invest in some companies cause I'm really behind nuclear, but I think the situation in the US is kinda shitty, I read plants don't get enough government funding to build em properly.
Plus the general public seems to want solar / wind energy more than anything, but I don't really think it's going anywhere, or will ever put out significant amounts of energy to warrant widespread general use.
So I'm a little conflicted. Anyone have any thoughts?

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>>9907822
I've tried my best to steer everyone away despite my heavy bags.

>> No.9908063

>>9907977
some anons are in LTBR for that, but it's pretty pointless until more reactors are approved. it's been decades since that happened?
>Only 43 percent of those polled after the Fukushima nuclear emergency said they would approve building new power plants in the United States.
until we get to like 60 percent its never gonna happen. no politician is going to stake their career on that

>> No.9908115

>>9907822
Delisted by Christmas.

>> No.9908148

>>9907977
>I read plants don't get enough government funding to build em properly.
its mostly just noise put out by the environmentalist crowd desu. nuclear is pretty goddamned safe as far as almost any energy shit goes. and infinitely more efficient than wind, solar etc as it never turns off (tho solar would be better if we didnt have that pesky atmosphere in the way).

though we should really be doing small scale thorium reactors to power towns and cities one at a time. much less dangerous fuel and waste. the reason we dont is because the waste product is useful in the construction of nuclear warheads. and also because it would solve fucking everything energy wise and put countless amounts of people and industries out of business. in particular oil.

but dont take most media noise about nuclear energy at face value desu. this sounds like a whole lot of "my dad works at nintendo", but my pops was a nuclear physicist. things arent nearly as crude now as they would like to have you believe. even while considering the waste product (which like i said are then purified into plutonium, and thats the REAL hot part) its still the cleanest energy we got. the waste that is created is nasty stuff, but its not impossible to deal with.

the problem comes from building these older style facilities on fucking fault lines and on islands where theres earthquakes and tsunamis all the fucking time. they should be building thorium but the media has everyone trained to freak out at the mention of "nuclear" and they shut off their ears. and like anon said >>9908063 no poli is gonna stick their neck out. theyd get whacked by the oil money, the environmental cartel AND their own voters at the same time

fusion is the one we want, but like i said, these old fission reactors are useful in the manufacturing of nuclear weapons and (surprise) its only DARPA and black funds that go to nuclear facilities

>> No.9908204

>>9907977
nuclear power is not currently profitable and there is a lot of research that still needs to be done. if it can be solved though, it will make every alternative obsolete. Investing in fusion is kinda redundant imo. if we ever get it, then it will pretty much solve everybodys basic needs. investing in it is kinda like betting your friend $100 that you will win the lottery next week.

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>>9908204
fusion (which is what my pops was working on) is not something you CAN invest in. fusion research is so unfathomably expensive (and were still in the "line up whatever particle and blast it with as much as we got and take pictures" phase). i know the one out in los alamos costs something like $10M a shot. lol, and not all of those shots yield data thats actually readable as sometimes the laser will peak out all the cameras, or theyll fucking miss the atom theyre trying to annihilate. were likely to be in the LOLWTFRWEDOING phase for the next 100 years at least. and it will be horrifically unprofitable until, like you said, absolutely everything will be solved and it wont matter cuz we literally star trak warpcore ma niggas

>> No.9908314

>>9908204
i wish i had my old comp. i had an awesome paper i found on how to make nuclear profitable via thorium. for whatever reason, knowledge on thorium reactors is incredibly suppressed, sometimes twisted maliciously, and the people who study it are criminally underfunded (by design. science is almost worse than politics in this regard).

but thorium would be such a smaller risk to deal with on a day to day, youd save a ton of the overhead that youd normally need to constantly monitor and protect the facility. the initial cost would be higher, as they are smaller and youd need a lot of them, but the cocksuckers have made it impossible to even try and build a couple to test it out (which again leads me to believe there is some sort of political pressure going on behind the scenes ala what happened to tesla)

>> No.9908345

>>9908314
i don't put too much stock in conspiracy theories, if it was really that easy there would be more outcry.
from what I've heard the corrosion from LFTRs is incredibly high meaning they can't sustain the reaction for long times without destroying the container

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what are my IQ bros buying when this gets to a target of +100? a new car or maybe a house?

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what memes to study over the weekend?

>> No.9908392

>>9908345
lol its not a conspiracy theory. im telling you ive been talking to my dad about this shit for my entire life. hes worked on it for twice as long as ive been alive. hes certainly not the only nuclear geek ive talked to either that thinks theres something else going on.

>if it was really that easy there would be more outcry.
no there wouldnt, because people hear nuclear and they shudder and start kvetching about fukushima like that wasnt a fucking retarded idea on the japs part in the first place. thorium has literally no chance of meltdown in the traditional sense. it will simply destroy itself and be useless if unmaintained.

>from what I've heard the corrosion from LFTRs is incredibly high meaning they can't sustain the reaction for long times without destroying the container
we need to build some and test them out. sooner the better. and oddly enough, this is exactly what the people whove been studying them for years now have been begging for. and theyre still waitin...

>> No.9908393

>>9908314
>Falling for the thorium meme
Thorium is one of the most overshilled nothingburgers of the last decade. Basically any advantage thorium shills claim has to do with the molten salt reactor design, not thorium itself. You could run the same process with uranium salts and get the same benefit. Thorium shills like to conflate the two and imply the advantages come from the material itself.

It's true that reactor design funding was cut in the 60s/70s, but this has been massively overblown. Like all it was was a proof of concept experiment that went nowhere, and people act like it's some huge coverup. It wasn't even possible to build the reactor design at scale back then. The alloys needed to withstand the reactor conditions didn't exist.

Nuclear power in general is DOA right now because the capex per unit energy is an order of magnitude or more above other power sources, while also taking years longer to finish construction and reach operation. It doesn't make sense from an investment standpoint. Pretty much the only way to do nuclear is the way China is doing it, where you pick a standard reaction design, have the government subsidize the shit out of it, and mass produce reactors of the same design.

>> No.9908410

>>9908393
all im saying is that if we are talking about having clean energy, its definitely one of the best. wind is garbage. solar is getting there but useless to most places. thorium reactors would be a very helpful piece to fill in the gaps. and f we already arent running a profit on traditional reactors, whats the difference?

>> No.9908422

>>9908393
fact is, its horrendously understudied, and the reason is that tradition fission reactors produce materials that are very much coveted by DARPA

>> No.9908723
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9908723

I'm pro-nuclear. My grandfather worked at a plant in Kentucky that manufactured requisite materials for reactors. I didn't really talk to him about it much until I was older, in my 20s, and he basically laid it out about how it's mostly hysteria against nuclear power.

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9908750

I hate week-ends what stocks can be daytraded on weekends?

>> No.9908772

>>9908378
gonna quit my shitty job and buy a house/ chill for rest of life

>> No.9908788

LF opinions on

>long AMD
>long IQ
>long MU
>is CGC the one?
What stocks should i be watching and someone explain pyramid investing with little words for a retard like me

>> No.9908930

>>9908378
Invest another 40k into my portfolio and not be satisfied with my level of wealth because its not enough yet.

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>>9908750

iktf

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>>9908788
I feel like I explain this daily.
Its tiering your risk tolerance and needs. Mine will be the example.
25% Low risk; Vanguards
30% Low/Mid risk; dividend carriers
35% Mid/High risk; Personal stock picks that are not crazy
10% High Risk; Pharmaceutical companies, long shots, straight gambling.

A reasonable person who was careful would be more along the lines of
45% Low
30% Low/Mid
20% Mid/High
5% High

All of this assumes you know how to use limits and you don't buy low sell high like a tard. Words of advice, don't start with more than 1k if you are new to the rodeo. Learn your shit and play with a weeks wages. Learn to cut losses and avoid FOMO. You don't stay on a sinking ship without a plan. The sticky has everything you need more or less for learning.

>> No.9909017

>>9908989
200 IQ = 100% all in DRYS calls.
100000% EOY

>> No.9909115

>>9909017
I know a lot of the people here use calls, and I'm not gonna dig on them, but I would definetly categorize them as Mid to High risk depending on how crazy you are. You need a basic understanding of stock movement before you just start screeching out numbers guessing where it's gonna go. (Yes I decided to treat your troll post as serious)

>> No.9909129

HMNY is going to be fun next week.

>> No.9909146

How the hell do I look at options on robinhood? This minimalist millennial vomit looking interface is such shit and all the online information is out of date or just wrong.

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>>9909146
>he's not on the list

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>>9908063
>>9908148
>>9908204
Ah, so probably not a good thing to put my money into then eh?

Thanks for the in depth reply as well.

>> No.9909389

>>9907434
>>9907416
Can I ride on a retarded mule and name him "trash sack"?

>>9907279
Don't die plz. How long do you have?

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so i just realized that trading view allows for spread charts on futures contracts (and everything else too). does anyone have any experience in using spread charts in predicting future moves (via the same underlying, diff expiry) or judging sector/index rollovers. im also interested in utilizing this in analyzing bonds. i know damn well all the smart kids know how to divide, and are using this shit to figure out timeframes (which is my weakpoint desu). i wanna be a smart kid too.

if anyone knows any books or videos related to such things, gimme a (you)

>>9909115
the people who only buy OTM contracts are retarded.
ITM is the best way to make 20% gains fucking VERY consistently (provided you know what youre doing and use stops/hedge in some way). and you dont have to stop at that either. still quite easy to make more (like what i did on SLV 170% and EEM 65% today). but people want dem 1000% gains. they just dont realize you need to save those OTM ones for the rainy days when the bogs are running wild

>> No.9909631

>>9905743
your pic is funny because it is exactly how I imagine Comfy to be

>> No.9909645

>>9909631
Comfer do you read Deleuze & Guattari? What about Fanged Noumena?

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well i guess im just gonna do this instead of sleep

check out this chart.
decided to check the spread of the five year yield vs the two year yield. was looking through the history of it and found one day in particular where it moved very quickly. turns out that day was just about 4 months before the dotcom bubble crashed.

is that wild or what?
them bond traders are smart puppies desu

>> No.9909847

>>9909645
I am not Comfy senpai

>> No.9909896

>>9909842
I have a small and deficient brain
I have been thiking hard about the yield inversion and try to figure out why investors would buy longer duration bonds with a lower yield and sell shorter-term bond with a higher yield.

This is the answers I came up with:
- they think longer term yields are going to decrease even more (which makes sense in the case of a recession, the FED would slash its interest rates and print money)
- they overall payout of the low yield/long term bonds is superior to the oe of high yield/short term bonds

Also, as to why it is an indicator of a recession, I think it gives a snapshot of the overall liquidity of the companies. It makes sense that shtf several months later (the following earning season ?) because we begin to see defaults from companies that failed to get fresh cash months before.

>> No.9909926

>>9909847
Oops I’m just drunk. I’m still curious about comfy’s Reading materials, he seems like he might be in the know

>> No.9909947
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9909947

>all these funds with a boatload of growth over 3-5 years
Where are you supposed to find those new ones with potential?

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>>9909896
lol yea you got it. thats exactly the theory behind the predictive power of the yield curve inverting. though you have it backwards kinda (yield goin UP means bond price moves DOWN). thats why the curve being as flat as it is makes big money nervous (hence why theyre mooning china rn and not us so much anymore).

heres another one of the 5yr yield vs the 2yr yield.
i mapped out important days where the market moved significantly. left to right (in terms of the meme bubble graph) its:
>green: NEW PARADIGM!!!
>yellow: denial
>pink range: bulltrap to return to normal
>red: fear and capitulation
>last green: despair (you win the game if you buy here)

im going to keep fucking around with these spread charts, for sure. im noticing little patterns in older big moves. perhaps ill be able to figure out how to apply it

>> No.9910072

>>9908381

just start reading random 10-K's

>> No.9910183

>>9910071
Nice (are you teh penis ?)

Where do you think we are now ?

>> No.9910265

>>9910183
yea

and i dunno, i just started playing around with these spread charts. not even sure if im doin it right desu
but it seems that times when the spread itself is really volatile are ugly times. when the spreadis increasing, it is sideways to bearish times, and when they form a downtrend, its bullish times (this is in relation to SPY).

however i know that the spread getting really small is bad, and if it inverts, were doomed. but were just flat right now. so id assume thats where were at, with the curve very flat because rates were low, yields were low and weve been bullish for a long time. now the FED is trying to carefully raise rates because SOMEONES gotta hold our fucking debt and they aint gonna do it with negative yields.

the chart as of now looks like the spread is increasing, which id assume is good for our overall market (as we dont want it to invert), but may put a damper on the party. not gonna be another 2017 thats for sure

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heres a cool one. looks like were supposed to long the fuck out of oil right now. this is a chart of the difference in price between the july crude oil futures and the december crude oil futures. this sudden moonshot of the spread is (i think) giving us a very clear buy signal

>> No.9910383

>>9910329
uncertainty about production cuts? OPEC meets Jul 22 iirc.

>> No.9910393

>>9910265
I am the same fag talking about Trump and the FED's objective to deleverage softly the economy

Every smart guy is looking at this yield curve to try to time the recession... which means you won't see the recession coming here.

A crisis always come from uncharted territories, and I believe it will come from Europe, from a purely political cause. Namely a key country like Italy abandoning EUR, defaulting on its EUR debts, crashing the Euro banks and marging calling everyone else.

Still on the USO gamle lol ?
It makes sense because USD has been soaring and investors are now taking the opposite bet : USD weakening later in the year since the yield curve remains flat.

That would mean oil will moon.

>> No.9910441

>>9910383
ive been saying the same thing for weeks now. everyones saying im retarded. but then i keep finding out others are doing the same shit

>>9910393
i was more looking at 08 just to understand the mechanics more clearly. it was easy to find those dates. i cant be more clear about the fact that i dont know what im doing here and am just scribbling lines and trying things rn.

>FED's objective to deleverage softly the economy
thats what i was saying. theyre not gonna let it invert. if things go well, the spread will widen, and if its gradual enough, were all gonna make it.

>A crisis always come from uncharted territories, and I believe it will come from Europe, from a purely political cause. Namely a key country like Italy abandoning EUR, defaulting on its EUR debts, crashing the Euro banks and marging calling everyone else.
lol then we are on the EXACT same page, fren

>Still on the USO gamle lol ?
ive been shorting it since it broke down the other week. covered on monday. worked out gud. this is all makng me wanna buy up some undervalued oil memes tho. were you the guy talking about DNR?

>> No.9910465

>>9910441
>were you the guy talking about DNR?
Nope
I don't do macro trade and I don't do oil companies

>> No.9910500

>>9910465
lol i guess im a wannabe macro guy. this stuff makes a lot more sense to me for some reason.
i wanna see if i can incorporate this into estimating bonds prices, as thats where ive been making my lunch money lately (theyve been VERY volatile recently. moreso than the indexes even). but if i could double check this every day (and if it proves reliable), im almost certain i could dramatically increase my percentage of wins, which with options, would mean like double the returns.

>> No.9910561

>>9910500
I like macro but trading it is speculation imo and I don't speculate (and I also don't trade in general)
I wish I can one day ride on Buffett-sama's shoulders. I am learning to invest.

From what I am reading, I don't think US Treasuries are in a clear bear trend. With all the shit happening rn, they would make for a desirable safe haven.

>> No.9910589

>>9910561
ive just been noticing the FEDs carpet bombing long term bonds lately. my guess is to try and normalize the curve somewhat, in addition to their usual duties of simply controlling the money. ive mostly been long on them this last month or so. but now with the 4th hike almost CERTAIN, im expecting another big down leg at some point.

>> No.9910637

>>9910589
>4th hike almost CERTAIN
If it is almost certain, it is already priced in

What you must look at are data related to inflation (like core CPI, hourly wages, NFP). Any hint of inflation going higher will make the FED even more hawkish than previously thought.

What is funny about the FED carpet bombing the LT bonds is despite them dumping the LT bonds (and buying ST ones), yield curve refuses to steepen. What to make of it ? Investors are afraid ?

>> No.9910680

Does anyone here trade bonds?

>> No.9910691

>>9910637
>If it is almost certain, it is already priced in
i dont buy it. they just barely announced it, and bonds were pumped to high hell. they at the very least should be down from where they are, if not another dramatic leg down.

>like core CPI, hourly wages, NFP
thats what i have been watching desu
just tryin to mix this in there somewhere now too, see if it helps

>What is funny about the FED carpet bombing the LT bonds is despite them dumping the LT bonds (and buying ST ones), yield curve refuses to steepen. What to make of it ? Investors are afraid ?
hey hey i called that one (pic related)
but i think yields coming back at all is a big thing. no one wanted them before when ALL they had was downside. theres something at least now.
another thing could just be people being scared.
the third thesis is that, given the "unique" circumstances for the last decade, that the FED is trying to do something that their computer models arent able to accurately predict, and they dont have a clue what theyre doing (as this shit has never happened before, so the historical data might mean piss all).

i got no fuggin clue tho m8

>>9910680
i trade derivatives ON bonds, so kinda

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>>9910691
forgot pic

>> No.9910710

>>9910691
Yeah let's wait and see what happens

Also
>no pic

>> No.9910717

>>9910710
was on my other comp

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hope you loaded up

>> No.9911156

>>9910960
thx just bought 100k

>> No.9911420

Im sad i missed out on Huya.