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9850615 No.9850615 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-nKuInDq6g&t=2s

Refute as much as you can btrashie but don't use words such as "corecuck" and "kike". Stick to the technology.

>> No.9850629

deluded corecuck

>> No.9850634
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>>9850615
Yet this is superior to both.

>> No.9850638

>>9850615

>2000 nodes

wow...that's 2% of what coinbase adds in a day

>> No.9850646

>>9850629
You lost btrashie. Try again next time.

>> No.9850652

>>9850615
I don't think anyone would be so deluded as to think otherwise....
>>9850629
Oh wait...

>> No.9850667

>>9850634
Another copy-paste tech.

>> No.9850674

>>9850638
As LN gains ground the fud is becoming more and more niche.
I cant wait for cashies to complain about how jewish the wallet colour schemes are, or how there are now too many nodes, which will confuse normies.

>> No.9850692

>>9850674

Eventually there will be too many nodes. Routing is still an unsolved problem for lightning. Oh wait, just use hubs am i right

>> No.9850701

18 months

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>>9850692

>> No.9850727

Attention btrashie, watch the video embedded in this thread before replying non sense.

>> No.9850740

>>9850615
lightning network handles transactions, thus completely and totally removing all incentive for miners to continue mining after the supply depletes, thus making btc doomed to be worthless
even if bch actually was just a bitcoin clone shitcoin, it would still have the benefit of utilizing satoshi's PoW scheme without being cucked and relying on some off-chain helping hand to do all the work for free
and—i'm sorry, but
it just is what it is
sitting back and not demanding that any value be produced while some off-chain utility removes the opportunity for value to be produced
it's cucked, and when there is no more bitcoin left to mine, it will be worthless
so, what's the point in even mining it if it'll all just be worthless in 100 odd years
the sell-off could happen 50 years ahead of time, or 100 years ahead of time
and when it does, and nobody is willing to buy bitcoin above mining price for years on end, it'll be a disaster for anyone holding

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>>9850702

Even your own devs admit lightning sucks ass

>> No.9850764

>>9850615
Ooooh are the roads getting filled to max capacity? Fear not, everyone string up your own personal ziplines, one for each destination, even if you're only going to go there once.

>> No.9850771

>>9850740
>>9850748
Jesus working in mcdonalds would be less soul destroying than being a professional bcash shill.
At least with mcdonalds you can wash the greasy feeling off at the end of the day.

>> No.9850780

>>9850740
>lightning network handles transactions
Only micro transactions btrashie. There's still a transaction onchain. LN is just a second layer in the bitcoin blockchain to minimize the load in the first layer.

>> No.9850791

>>9850748
>8 months ago.

sure it is. Btrashie is surely pathetic.

>> No.9850829

>>9850748
>8 months ago
>screencap is probably 6 months old
Is that all you got, cashie? At least that dev is realistic and is prepared for something. Unlike retard bcash scam artists who just insist doubling the block size every few months will allow for infinite transactions per second, Lmao.

>> No.9850849

>>9850748
>your
fucking kys trashie you retarded sub 80 IQ commie

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>>9850771
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>>9850885
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>> No.9850926

>>9850885
Bcashies are literal /v/edditors
Top fucking lmao

>> No.9850950

Attention btrashie, watch the video embedded in this thread before replying non sense.

>> No.9850965

>>9850615
Lol, good luck trying to send a transaction when that mesh really grows up. That thing cannot scale, it's mathematically impossible.

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>> No.9851011

BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH

>> No.9851027

SEETHING corecucks still don’t get it that their school science project with shit fundamentals will never get adopted.

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>>9851000
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also what a waste of trips....

>> No.9851055

>>9851027
>>9851041
C O P E
O
P
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Don't cry btrashie, mommy isn't here.

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>>9851055
I’m laughing at you retarded faggots as your shitcoin continues to lose the market dominance.

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>>9851063
> your shitcoin continues to lose the market dominance.
t.every btrash shills

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>>9850926
agreed, r/btc is a cesspool full of bcashies - its fucking disgusting

>>9851063
>market becomes diverse
>bitcoin dominance drops
>see guys bitcoin is badder
see pic related - its you

>> No.9851085

>>9851063
Keep taking your pills and keep posting conspiracy theories: https://reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7d02ee/some_thoughts_about_the_possible_bitcoin_segwit/
You guys make me sick

>> No.9851125

>>9851075
>>9851079
>>9851085
Three assplosions in a row. Keep it up, corecucks.

>> No.9851147

>>9851125
Accept the truth btrashie. Your shitcoin is just a low quality rip-off.

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>>9850615
Capacity: 20 Bitcoin

>> No.9851159

>>9851125
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>>9851159

>When the payment fails to route for the 30th time in a row

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>>9851152
>20 bitcoin

Holy shit guys, I rekt these corecucks.

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>bcash

MIND YOU, I AM A SELF MADE MILLIONAIRE. Granted I suck dick

>> No.9851198

>>9850615
>prove me wrong
ok
Bcash has faster tx speeds.

>> No.9851208

>>9851168
>cittation needed
You can't just pull non sense from your ass, btrashie.

>> No.9851219

>>9851198
faster but centralized.

>> No.9851231

>>9851219
not centralized, in fact about 70% as decentralized as BTC as far as hashrate distribution goes, more decentralized as far as node implementations

>> No.9851232

>>9851208
People who complain about lightning. Are brainlets who are unable to use a CLI interface properly.

>>9851198
>>9851219 this
Visa has faster. Whats the point? You can't scale to visa level without centralizing onchain.

>> No.9851250

>>9851231
This is a fallacy and you fell for it. Just because a block explorer states that bcash has 20% belonging to (((other))) doesn't mean it's not owned by <<<bitmain>>>

>> No.9851265

>>9850780
so, instead of demanding that your miners rise to the level of being able to handle higher volumes of transactions and allowing bitcoin to grow through the way it has been growing, they simply change the rules and lower the standards
ugh

>>9851075
i'd like to think that the coin with ties to the bilderberg group would be the one with the shills
bitcoin cash keeps everything on-chain; it hardly has anything to prove
bitcoin core is the one that implements new, unproven components
what would bitcoin cash even need shills for
there are only so many ways to say "it has a larger block size"
what you mean to point out is the possibility of paid core fudders being real, but again, core has unproven tech that interferes with bitcoin's economic model as it was envisioned by satoshi—the one that led us to where we are now, with bitcoin soaring thousands of times over people's price expectations
why change it

and, yes—i am accusing you of being a shill, based on my tired logic
i could fall asleep at any moment

>> No.9851269

>>9851231
Yes, it's centralized, majority of the nodes are on China.

>> No.9851274

Bcore shills are getting desperate with their shit bcoin

>> No.9851301

The way I understand it, Bcash is just ethereum if you are willing to overlook some details, basically.

If you think Bitcoin is superior to ethereum, then Bitcoin is superior to bch, too.

I think eth is superior to btc, and thus feel the same way about bch.

>> No.9851311

>>9851269
cash is the capitalist coin, anyone who has the hardware and electricity regardless of how its made or acquired is capable of mining etcetera
true capitalism leads to decentralization and the prevention of monopolies, so on and so forth, lightning network is a monopoly ultimately run by blockstream and it's unavoidable because no competition

>> No.9851317

>>9851232
>Whats the point?
people get paid faster.

>> No.9851360

>>9851265
>they simply change the rules and lower the standards
Every btrashie simpleton argument. Of course btrashie don't understand the concept of scalelability.

>ties to the bilderberg group
Why the fuck bildegberg group have any interest in lightning network? LN is just a solution for micro transactions that blockchain can't handle.

>> No.9851386

>>9851274
>desperate
wtf are you saying btrashie?. roger ver wants the "bitcoin" brand so badly.

>> No.9851422

>>9851311
>lightning network is a monopoly
How LN is a monopoly?.LN is not run by blockstream you brainlet. Watch the video embedded in this thread before saying trash, btrashie.

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>>9850615
https://lnmainnet.gaben.win

"is what's called a scale free network which means it looks the same under any scale".

It's failed already. Look, I'm fucking tired of this war. The bch side is clearly technically right. Everybody knows how this turns out, core denials are just stupid at this stage. But you know what, I'm actually considering increasing my stake in btc.

Why? Because this war has now fully disillusioned me of the just world fallacy. Humans are shit bags and they're too stupid to defend themselves from transparent demands that they get back on the plantation and behave like good cattle. They don't even know that's what's happening. Even otherwise intelligent people like andreas clearly fall for this (tells not withstanding, look at the neck scratching uncomfortable body language when he starts talking about the centralisation stuff, he knows it's a lie)

One of the most baffling things I have seen from coretards is that they attack bch instead of diversify into it, it's the best approach, the correct approach, the approach that will very possibly win, and they're compromising their investment by just pretending that's not true and trying to sabotage it.

So ok, if humans are useless scam suckers that can't be saved, doesn't the reverse of that apply equally to me? Why am I compromising my interests by not being diversified across the new world order's evil money plan. It's hardly impossible that they could win, and the best way to insulate myself from that future is to be diversified across it.
Fuck humans if they fall for your scam, I'm not going down with them, is what I'm starting to lean toward at this stage. I owe humanity nothing. I did my best to wake them the fuck up and they largely just responded with muh BCash like a pack of useless hyenas. OK, so enslave yourselves. Not my monkeys, not my circus.

>> No.9852605

>>9851265
>bitcoin core
I am confused. are you talking about Bitcoin or
TheBitcoinCore.org ?

They are two different coins

>> No.9852932

>>9852426
>Humans are shit bags and they're too stupid to defend themselves from transparent demands that they get back on the plantation and behave like good cattle.
F--- you pajeet! Here have a shekel!

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>>9852932
> says the shitbag human so stupid he can't defend himself from transparent demands and is the exact parody of what the poster in question was talking about with his bcashbcashbcashbcash shit.
He's right, we should just leave you fucks to your death and profit by the abbatoir.

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https://satoshis.place/

>cashies are now getting roasted with decentralized pixels

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>>9852426
>behave like good cattle.
>allows (((them))) to host all full validating nodes

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>>9850615

Corecuck kike beta faggot dumbarse useful idiot

>> No.9853378

>>9850615
Listen here you pathetic corecuck kike.

Assuming Lightning actually works (LMAO):
1. you have to set up your payment channel with on-chain transaction. if you have to deal with on-chain transactions anyway you might as well just scale up on-chain instead.

2. if someone else use your payment channel they can deplete your funds to a merchant. if there are no other channels, which is likely since otherwise your channel wouldn't be depleted, you now need another on-chain transaction to make a new channel or refund your old one.

3. the network will inevitably develop backbone nodes that nearly all transactions pass through (most likely just trusting each other to have the required funds to save time). this "solves" the routing problem but makes the whole thing completely centralized, just like internet is today with master backbone nodes.

4. once you put your crypto into a channel you're basically trapped in the system. it's designed so that you would never want to take it out. eventually there would be almost no in/out on the bitcoin blockchain and at that point bitcoin is essentially dead and you can be sure that there will be talks to just drop it completely in favor of some kind of issued lightning network token.

5. it's possible to make solutions for micropayment channels on-chain instead. someone needs to figure out a way for the sender to be able to construct a transaction but he cannot broadcast it, the reciver on the other hand can't change the transaction but he is allowed to broadcast it. the payment channel is then either closed by the receiver with the latest state or it is closed by a timeout with a full refund to the sender.

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Why are cashies so obsessed with this altcoin?

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one of these days, makes one wonder, what purpose this coin actually serve.

>> No.9853414

>>9853401
why are corecucks so obsessed with a BCH node software implementation?
https://github.com/bcoin-org/bcash

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>>9853364
I suppose you do your part to ensure justice is upheld by validating judge Judy episodes with your fullly validating TV? Where would we be without you masters of the blade and blockchain out there watching the same things thousands of other professionals actually involved are, but thousands of times slower and less efficiently with about the same deficit in terms of you knowing what the fuck you're doing.
But yeah, it's you that's going to save us. Not the hundreds of major blockchain businesses. Not the cross validating miners, not the massive volume exchanges, no, you in your moms basement with your fucking raspberry pi jacking it to futa in your up time and glancing over at your pi in your refractory period.
You people are so fucking deluded. You really do deserve the slavery you're selling yourselves back into.

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>>9853401

kek corecucks gone full circle. They're so desperate to shake the name 'bcore' that they forked yet another shitcoin and named it after Blockstream's bcore kikechain.

How cute.

>> No.9853581

Bitcoin cash is bitcoin

>> No.9853604

>retards still think non-mining full nodes secure the network
>zencash had 2000 non-mining nodes and literally NONE of them prevented the 51% attack
How is it possible to get brainwashed so easy by such shit narratives?

>> No.9853631

it still makes me laugh thinking of all the people out there that were too late to get any of the bitcoin airdrops, and so actually had to buy some of them with real money.

its no wonder there's so much shilling and jealousy from the airdrop crowd, funny how you don't see that from any ethereum classic holders, since they werent all late to the game

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Ignore BTC/BCH posters
Hide BTC/BCH threads
Make way for the one true king

>> No.9853782

>>9853378
Stay mad cashie. Your dinosaur tech can't even compete to Bitcoin. Your second point is wrong, you clearly don't understand how LN works.

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>> No.9853816

>>9853562
Why so mad cashie? Every cashie argument already been debunked and refuted. Still coping cashie?

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>>9853782
Low effort cope-out. Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash share the same 2009 tech.

>> No.9853830

>>9853562
>. They're so desperate to shake the name 'bcore' that they forked yet another shitcoin and named it after Blockstream's bcore kikechain.

You'll find this really funny. it's the original Bitcoin Cash before it forked. They just renamed it Bitcoin Core...
Shitcoin indeed.. it's Bcash without Roger Ver

>> No.9853841

>>9853824
>Same 2009 tech
You're hallucinating cashie. You alright?

>> No.9853852
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9853852

>all this corecuck/cashie seething
Settle down, brainlets. Feeless instant transactions + dApps + smart contracts is the future.

>> No.9853884
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>>9853841
>You're hallucinating
Try to prove me wrong, pajeet. Oh, wait, you can't, because not a single one BTC fork has the technical edge over the grandpa shitcoin.
>cashie
I'm only holding altcoins.

>> No.9853905

The choice is simple. Freedom or slavery for the serfs. Do they get to transact on a ledger with the same properties as what the btc slavers would prefer they didn't, or do they get to transact as first class citizens in the ecosystem with everyone else, protected by the same decentralised design as everyone else.
There is no right answers. There are just two potential possibilities. Maybe serfs are genuinely incapable of coping in a world where they have to compete on a level playing field with everyone else. Maybe they have to be homogenized into a giant mass and used purely to socialize the losses of their betters who actually understand the game they're playing. Certainly to the degree they're begging for their chains back this appears to be the case.
We shouldn't sell ourselves into that same slavery and miss out on freedom just because we felt a moral obligation to protect stupid cunts from themselves.

Diversify, cover both possibilities. It's the only rational move in light of how successful the political campaign around btc has been. The good guys don't always win, and the world is not just. Make sure you're not prey, no matter what happens.

>> No.9853922

>>9850615
Core is a totalitarian cult led by economically illiterate communists and followed by brainless sheep. Bitcoin (BCH) is a libertarian currency based on free-market mechanisms supported by entrepreneurs and just reasonable people. If we look at history and compare socialist regimes to market economies, it's obvious who will win.

>> No.9853930
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9853930

>>9853884
>Try to prove me wrong
Watch the video cashie. Don't be a lazy kid, mommy isn't home.

>> No.9853944

>>9853922
Say it with me cashie. C O P E.

>> No.9853956

Considering one of the foremost experts on network topology says lightning cannot scale, I tend to believe him.

https://youtu.be/hstM7aN_ozk

>> No.9853960
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9853960

Everyone should buy some BTCC to piss Roger off.
It already has a bunch of trading pairs on CryptoBridge
https://www.coinmarketwatch.com/#/cryptocoin/BTCC
Already #172 and under $2
You can mine it too. it's gott like 19 PH/s on it

https://twitter.com/BitcoinCore_

It's Bcashes abandoned chain :)))

>> No.9853961

>>9853944
Notice how you retards never have any arguments for your crippled shitcoin. Just keep blindly following your glorious leaders, socialism will surely work this time.

>> No.9853962
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9853962

>>9853930
>please waste 10 minutes of your precious time listening to a balding corecuck boomer shilling some shitty retarded "scaling solution" when BTC should have already been replaced by XLM, NEO, ETH, NEM

>> No.9853981

>>9853956
It only can't scale in a decentralised way. But that was never the plan. It's just a bedtime story for people that are not mentally equipped to understand this is central banks and states fighting back, reimposing their centralised architecture by force.

>> No.9853988

>>9853956
>Experts
Haha top kek.

>> No.9853992
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9853992

lol bcore

>> No.9853993

Embrace, extend, extinguish. They've worked this way for decades.

>> No.9854004

>>9853905
>Diversify, cover both possibilities. It's the only rational move in light of how successful the political campaign around btc has been. The good guys don't always win, and the world is not just.

This. But I really hope Bitcoin dips below 0.1 again so I can divest more of my BCore into it.

>> No.9854012

>>9853962
It will hurt your feelings, right cashie?. Don't worry, watch it next time if you're done coping.

>> No.9854031
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9854031

>>9854012
>no arguments
What's wrong, corecuck? Can't fight back because you know that your king shitcoin's days are numbered?

>> No.9854065

>>9853988
I'm sure you're way more qualified than Josh Ellithorpe to discuss network topology. Please, explain how lightning can scale in a decentralized manner.

>> No.9854104

>>9854031
>Lightning network
>Onion routing
There, I simplify the video for you cashie so your snowflake ego won't be hurt.

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9854106

lol bcore

>> No.9854136
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>>9854104
>some shitty retarded "scaling solution" when BTC should have already been replaced by XLM, NEO, ETH, NEM, TRX, EOS, NANO, NULLS, HPB, ELA, ADA, ZIL

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9854158

lol bcore

>> No.9854163

>>9854065
Again, watch the video cashie. Your question will be answered. Andreas Antonopoulos is on that video, respectable computer scientist.

>> No.9854188

>>9854163
He doesn't address the currently unsolvable routing issues with LN. To put it in perspective, try to get a refund through LN. Kek

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9854196

lol bcore.

>> No.9854202

>>9850692
>bcash shill: "LN needs to solve a NP-hard problem and find the optimum path in order to function"
>Bitcoin devs: "No, you only need to find a path that is fast enough, an almost optimal path to the destination can be found quite quickly, especially if you cache paths"
>bcash shill: "But wouldn't you want to find the optimum path to minimize fees?"
>Bitcoin devs: "The difference between the optimum path and an almost optimal path is negligible because fees are extremely small (under 1 cent) to begin with"
>bcash shill: "But wouldn't you want to find the optimum path to minimize fees?"
they then paste the same shitty argument the next day
repeat until the end of time

>> No.9854206

>>9854163
>hey look at the video i posted
>i still dont understand anything
Pathetic

>> No.9854214

>>9854188
He discussed it you brain dead cashie. Routing will be similar to TOR onion routing.

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9854223

lol beecore

>> No.9854237

>>9854214
You have no idea what you are talking about. This thread is over.

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9854257

lol... bcore

>> No.9854277

>>9853956
>expert
dude dropped out of college and now runs software for Coinbase. lolol top level kek

>> No.9854281

>>9854214
Triggered lmao

>> No.9854299

>>9854237
>You have no idea what you are talking about
Kek. 100 replies have passed and still coping.

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9854306

lolol bcore

>> No.9854319

Imagine paying a thousand dollars for a free airdrop coin.

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9854322

bcore

>> No.9854332

>>9854299
>30 replies in his own thread
>each reply "watch the video i know what im talking about"
Kys

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9854347

Bitcoin Core

>> No.9854352

>>9854299
>coping
>posts 6month old video explaining lightning.

>> No.9854361

>>9854319
Nice argument, corefag. Imagine paying 6700 dollars for what once was $0.05

>> No.9854377
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9854377

The market objectively is on the side of Bitcoin Cash and large blocks. There is a reason Bitcoin's dominance fell right as the blocks became full. It's not a "pure coincidence".

>> No.9854387

>>9854332
I don't want to spoon-fed cashies

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lol corecucks

>> No.9854422

>>9854202
> cache paths
> staked network
you people.

>> No.9854424

>name your coin "bitcoin coinname"
>geez I wonder why everyone calls us ripoff
As long as anything has bitcoin in its name it will rely on bitcoin's popularity forever. Whoever invests in btc and bch is the same stupid normie.

>> No.9854431

Don't come all at once on me cashies. It's hard replying all your coping.

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9854436

Imagine being this deluded.

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9854448

Big beautiful bcore

>> No.9854452

>>9854361
Bitcoin is overvalued because of speculation. Bcash is overvalued because it is literally worthless, so anything above zero is overvalued.

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/thread

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>> No.9854534

>>9854452
BTC is overvalued because of tether wash trading. BCH is also overvalued because it is paired with that shitcoin across most exchanges. After the real crash we will see which coin survives. The coin that is ready to scale now versus the coin that is ready to scale in 18 months

>> No.9854658

What was the reasoning to not raise the block size to say 2mb ? Wasn't around back then.
There must have been a good reason no ?

>> No.9854760

>>9854658
They couldnt run nodes on their gameboy advance if the blocksize was 2mb

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9854802

>>9854760
HA! ok that was funny

>> No.9854861

>>9854658
to continue being all inclusive for the time being... since a hard fork creates backwards incompatibility. They also said that until measurable advancements in technology eg Bandwidth, Computational Power/Speed, and Storage.

bcash camp doesn't care about these things... adoption is 32MB empty blocks and a massive soon-to-be centralized blockchain according to them.

>> No.9854891

>>9854861
>measurable advancements in technology eg Bandwidth, Computational Power/Speed, and Storage
Imagine being this much of a mouth breathing brainlet.

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9854903

>>9854387

>> No.9854910

>>9854861
Deluded. BCH wants to ensure decentralization through the hundreds of thousands of data centers and millions of businesses across the globe. We basically want to build a pro version of bitcoin with big blocks. It's a much more realistic model.

>> No.9854911

>>9854891
Go to sleep cashie, the adults are talking.

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9854930

>>9854861
>BCore won't increase the block size until 4Mbit/s Internet, Pentium 4 grade CPUs and 500Gb hard drives become affordable

>> No.9854947

>>9854911
>adults
Tell us more about your receding hairline, gyno problems and back pain.

>> No.9854970

>>9854910
>Deluded.
>ensure decentralization
by forcing all end users to an SPV thin client.

>> No.9854977

>>9854947
Sorry to hurt your feelings anon. I shouldn't called him a cashie.

>> No.9854982

>>9854891
>>9854930
clearly intelligent communication is lost in this cash camp.

>> No.9854987

>>9854930
We can't raise the block size limit goyim. Poor Abdullah in Uganda only has a 250GB hard drive and an Intel Celeron processor. He can barely run his non-mining full node so that he can interact with the Lightning Network. Unfortunately the Bitcoin network is quite congested and he'll need to spend his monthly salary ($2) to settle the Lightning Network transaction on-chain.

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9854988

>>9853824
Yeah, just like every other shitcoin out there, copy-pasting the work done in Bitcoin.

>> No.9854993

>>9854970
If you dont have a pc that can run a node with 32mb blocksize in 2018 then it's time for an upgrade

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9855014

>>9853992
>peer to (((corporation running node))) to peer
>cash
pick one

>> No.9855023

>>9854970
Better than forcing all end users to pay 100$ fees. Satoshi very clearly stated this, most users would be running SPV.

>> No.9855035

>>9854987
>Uganda
this shit statement totally goes against everything bcash supposedly stands for... aren't there dying babies in Uganda?

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9855040

>>9854993
Imagine if someone bothered to spam bcash's network to fill the 32 mb blocks.

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9855053

>>9855023
Hal (satoshi) corrected satoshi on the delusion of onchain scaling.

>> No.9855068

core segwit lightning coin sucks ass

>> No.9855097

>>9855053
Hal is not Satoshi, this post proves it. Bitcoin banks goes against the very title of the white paper: Peer to peer electronic cash. 128GB of RAM is peanuts even today and that level of tech won't be necessary for years. There is no reason for users to run network nodes.

>> No.9855129

>>9855097
> Bitcoin banks goes against the very title of the white paper: Peer to peer electronic cash.

you don't understand things very well do you?

>> No.9855151

>>9855097
>128GB of RAM is peanuts
That's a lot of ram cashie. Every computer scientist knows that Moore's law is slowing down.

>> No.9855156

>>9855129
Typical rude reply with no reason or backing. Me writing a check to you is not peer to peer hard cash, me handing you 10$ and you instantly receiving it is.

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9855166

>>9855151

>> No.9855173

>>9854202
So what you're saying that a future optimal software is better than a good enough software right now? Of course the LN will be functional *some day* but until then BTC has nothing. Even in 10 years it won't be able to do what BCH already does.

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>>9855166

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9855215

>>9855151
No it is not, especially for miners and people who run servers. A single miner will use the amount of electricity required to buy that much in a single day quite often. The fact remains that it won't even be required for probably at least 10 years which I doubt you would argue is too little time for RAM to go down.

>> No.9855298

>>9855156
>$10 hard cash
>doesn't understand what a banknote is
Yes it is, that is the exact definition of "cash". anyways the whitepaper is not about "cash" it is about the PoW algo to "solve" the double spending problem with Wei Dai's b-money. You obviously have no idea what the whitepaper is about so, I don't need to waste my time with an "intelligent" arguement when you really have no clue wtf is going on.

>> No.9855354

>>9855215
>especially for miners and people who run servers
Then I would argue this >>9854987.
But hey bcash team doesn't give two flying fucks.

>> No.9855395

>>9855215
>No it is not
>shows pictures five years old.

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