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Been thinking lately, we may never see those gains again.

Think OMG for example, will it really go above $100, $1000 (kek)?

On the other end, will we see a sub 50m market cap reach 10-100B again?

If the market truly does reach $1-5 trillion, then this could be possible.

Curious to see what others think.

Rules:
-To post here, you must shit on a toilet
-Must not simply shill a shitcoin
-IF you do shill, back it up

>> No.9666376

>>9666346
Short answer: No. The real money in crypto has already been made. By buying in at these prices, you are just making someone else rich.

>> No.9666397

>>9666346
C H A I N L I N K

>> No.9666425

>>9666346
Yes, things like Link or others that have not been fully deployed can still moon. Cap this.

>> No.9666428
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>>9666376
Interesting, so your essentially suggesting that we will never break ATH in regards to the overall crypto market cap.

>>9666397
See pic.

>> No.9666429

yes, but they wont be discussed on biz
the big boys left a while ago, some lurk for fun but no serious discussion happens here
if you dont think there will be more 1000xs then there is no saving you

>> No.9666437

Unironicly vechain

>> No.9666443

Yes, there are 100X's out there right now.

>> No.9666455

>>9666346
>Will we see gains like Antshares and ETH from now until 2019-2020?

Yes

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>>9666429
Are you a, "big boy".

>>9666437
Seems VEN could be a top gainer in the future. It seemed scammy due to chinky team but, they've accomplished quite a bit.

>> No.9666470

>>9666346
Holy shit. This thread makes me nostalgic as fuck. Reminds me how I made it. Its also very interesting ... d-do you guys see the difference between 2014 and 2018 /biz/`? So much effort put into a response explaining every aspect. (In the end he was wrong though) But at least he tried to enplane something.

Little friendly reminder though. :3

>> No.9666485

>>9666455
DUBs.

Care to speculate? Maybe provide a few coins of your choosing, if it isn't so much to ask?

Thanks in advance.

>>9666470
Biz seems to be pajeet central these days. I think there are decent threads here and there though.

>> No.9666491

I don't know why you post that image like the guy is an idiot. At that time frame Ethereum was absolute dog shit and could have easily failed. Only a month before that post someone hacked Ethereum and stole 50 million USD worth.

>> No.9666513

>>9666491
Notice I place the image right on the line where he says, "If you buy Ether, you are gullible as fuck."

Regardless of whether or not it "was" dog shit, it still is amusing to see how ETH turned out.

>> No.9666551

>>9666346
Man I hope so... but i just dont see how. Every chad, stacy and fucking normie has already heard about bitcoin and crypto. it wasnt like back in 2014 where if you said cryptocurrency to any normie they would have been like "whats a cryptocurrency" with the slight excpetion that they may have heard of bitcoin

>> No.9666557

>>9666346
Not until BTC hits bottom around $5k. Somewhere in the next 2-3 months. After that we can usher in a new era of semi sustainable growth. However, HODL is a meme and a bad one at that. Dont expect a coin to just rocket past everything else, just swim which way the whales are going or do your own analysis and don't take recs from /biz/. I wont simply shill a coin, but case and point,

>>9666376
There is always some money to be made. Don't bet on a single coin to do the work for you, just take little wins as they come. Today's instance is BCN on Binance. If you had put $10k into it late last night and sold right now you'd have $12k. Rinse and repeat, and know when to sell at a loss if it isnt going your way

>> No.9666560

>>9666485
>Care to speculate? Maybe provide a few coins of your choosing, if it isn't so much to ask?

HST
EXRN
Some other thing (secret)
Also INT

>> No.9666574

Out of those thousands of coins I am pretty sure that a little hand full can get from a 50mill cap to a 1 or 2 digit bill cap. The hard thing is to find the right one. I am convinced of one roughly 50mill coin (majority of my holdings) to get into the single to double digit billions within 2 to 3 years. Won't shill it because I am no crypto expert OG. In the game since early/mid 2017.

>> No.9666579

>>9666485
Also pay attention to SKY (It's godlike but many people dont understand that)

>> No.9666599

Dero, and here's why:

- Complete SSL across the entire P2P network
- 3-second blocktime with no orphan blocks and blockchain scalable to terabytes
- This blocktime is being reduced to 6-8 seconds so the infrastructures of third world countries can keep up, can be sped back up to 2 seconds with a single dev command
- Confirmation times of less than 60 seconds
- Shadow addresses, atomic swaps, and bulletproofs
- 500 transactions per second directly on the chain (no validators or lightning network)
- ASICs will be bricked from mining DERO once Atlantis releases
- Implementing directed acyclic graphing technology
- DERO whitepaper (finished version), technical papers, source code, and normie-friendly GUI wallets releasing on or before June 5th
- Website update finished, just waiting for Atlantis release; secondary website for Atlantis live stats in-progress
- New exchanges are in the works
- Dev team weeks ahead of schedule, aren't even spending any time advertising because they're spending so much time on the blockchain putting in nearly 90 hours a week
- Dev support team on slack nearly 24/7, you can literally talk to a member of the team RIGHT NOW in their Slack chatroom (or Discord, if you prefer) to answer ANY questions you have
- Everyone who has invested in this and has spent time researching the project is immensely curious at its potential (think: PoWH 3D and Ethroll, but with DERO, think: real-world transactions with 100% privacy, think: their own exchange, and it goes on)
- Will be open-source one Dero Atlantis releases and has received a proper audit
- Marketing campaign is starting allowing heavy input from its community

>> No.9666616

>>9666428
Why would you think someone who recognizes a decentralized oracle’s importance is a brainlet. Something tells me you’re one of those people that got into cryptos 8 months ago, has never written the simplest of codes, let alone worked on a blockchain project, and thinks he is qualified to give others advice about the space. If you don’t recognize how important good oracles are, you are the biggest faggot here who needs to stop pretending he knows shit.

>> No.9666618

>>9666560
Blockchain voting.. Hmm..
EXRN - Another cross-chain smart contracts platform in ICO stage, Hmm...

>>9666579
Maybe someone can chime in on why Sky isn't so great.

The cultish community and PnD by the owners turn me off about this coin.

>>9666599
No adoption is what it's missing.

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>>9666428
See pic.

>> No.9666632

>>9666599
Bruh, XLM / Cardano. Good luck with this nobody coin. Same problems plague ark. Good chains no use / or companies to work with.

Also chainlink 1000eoy

>> No.9666638

>>9666616
I hold LINK haha, relax.

I think anyone who browses BIZ knows of LINK, hence why I wasn't impressed with that answer.

Plus he didn't elaborate on the "WHY", though in all fairness, there is more than enough LINK threads to see why.

>> No.9666639

>>9666618
>cultish community and PnD by the owners turn me off about this coin.

I understand that but decentralised internet that lets You do anything
Thats a good thing if You want to do some shady/private things

>> No.9666640

>>9666574

The single biggest moon mission in the sub-100 mil mcap range is already tainted because of pajeet reverse-shills on /biz/ anyway

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>>9666622
>>9666616
>Did I strike a nerve

>> No.9666657

>>9666346
Old ETH and NEO fud always reminds me of current VEN fud

>> No.9666658

>>9666622
Wow, not a bad roll, plus the bonus of nearly having the ultimate millennial ID. I didnt even read what you replied to but that's damn impressive

>> No.9666659

>>9666579
Yikes. That will take years dude.

Just buy link

>> No.9666685

That goes for everyone. It is so exhausting seeing people who don’t know shit masquerading on an anonymous Egyptian jewelry imageboard as people who understand sowftware when they’ve never even take intro to C++.

Oracles are important to every fucking project and lots of platforms have started realizing over the past few months how in a lot of cases they can’t just make their own oracles like usual.

ChainLink may not solve this issue, but if it does, you faggots don’t even deserve it for not having even the most basic of understanding of this space.

>> No.9666686

>>9666618
>>9666632
How can something be adopted if it doesn't even exist yet?

Dero devs have stated there in private talks with multiple companies. These companies are waiting for Atlantis to release so they can see the code first.

>> No.9666690

>>9666640
Reveal, seems pajeet-like to not mention the name. Though I suppose people would call you a pajeet even if you did.

>> No.9666706

Link. Hubii. Maybe RLC, AMB and REQ (RLC no burn though so probably capped at maybe 200x. Some will be tied up via stake mechanisms but not as much of it as with chainlink)

>> No.9666732

>>9666686
>trusting coin creator’s words

Kys.

>> No.9666755

>>9666551
Honestly it’s still like this, only 10% of people I know actually have even heard of bitcoin

>> No.9666816

>>9666666

>> No.9666917

>>9666755
You must live in a shithole area full of poor people with no financial literacy. Those people will never affect the market anyway, so who gives a fuck? Anyone with money knows about crypto.

Hyperledger, ETH, BTC, and Link are the only projects needed to interrupt multi trillion dollar industries. Just buy the latter 3 and stop chasing a bunch of bull shit. Basically EVERY project is complete BS that will never amount to anything. The token bubble is going to keep deflating, buy the three important projects and you’ll be fine. Otherwise you risk getting stuck holding bull shit that will really become worthless.

Monero will probably always have value too, but unless you want to buy shit on the dark web, who cares?

Good luck chasing around anything else. If I’m wrong, feel free to screen cap this and call me “Giant Faggot.” But I go to every convention, these are the most important projects.

No one wants to develop shit with EOS, TRON, ADA, or any of this other shit. Hyperledger and Ethereum. Period. Once Link or some other Oracle service come through, game over. The BIG money industries will be locked down. You might get lucky with some other pump or weird obscure utility like MANA, but why bother? BTC, ETH, Link (or whatever oracle service that starts to look more promising) and you’ll be rich within 5 years.

>> No.9666947

>>9666618
desu, I think sky is mostly a meme.
Nobody really >needs< a decentralized internet perse. It would be amazing if it gets adopted, but do I think ppl will choose browing skynet over browsing the internet? not before some real fucking shit happens

>> No.9666955

>>9666917
Respect, thanks for the reply.

What are your thoughts on decentralized internet like Sky, Holo, Nexus, ect.?

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9667057

REQ, if PwC gets them trials with some fortune 500 companies and they figure out fiat integration.

>> No.9667073

>>9666955
HOLO is actually pretty interesting in theory in a space saving/speed improvement on ETH...but I haven’t bought into it. I think so much is being developed on ETH blockchain and in hyperledger that they have a HUGE head start in the big money industries that matter. That is what I’m concerned about. I want to have assets that have REAL value in five years...not some theoretical shit that I have to worry about the devs accomplishing 1000 things and whose value is solely derived from largely ignorant people being convinced “ITZ GUNNA MOON!”

>> No.9667075

>>9667057
They'll just wait on Link to do that for them, and then ride the PWC train to $50 for us.

>> No.9667084

>>9667057
They are doing tests right now on Chainlink testnet to get alts price from CMC

>> No.9667134

>>9666917
>>9667075
>>9667084
Realistically, how much more time will we have to accumulate LINK?

>> No.9667155

>>9667084
Where did you see this?

>> No.9667167

>>9667134
A year give or take

>> No.9667195

Yes Vechain is going to flip eth. Also, Qash might be a 100x coin. But obviously it all depands on a lot of external factors and it might take a few years.

>> No.9667197

>>9666657
Well what effect do you think the supply increase will have? I know many people think it will tank the overall value of the coin, but making it a 1:100 ratio seems like it could be an easy moonshot once the initial mainnet dump is over

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9667200

>>9666346
>Nauticus blockchain project
No one else is talking about this.
I'm serious, look this one up. If you can wait 2 years for the fucking moon mission of your life then get on board NOW. The presale tokens wont be tradable for 2 years, but bounty tokens will be tradable. This makes sure that the neets retards and pajeets exit before the moon mission.
Funding period ends in a month or two (I forgot exactly when, I'm already in so who cares)
THIS IS IT GUYS. I'M NOT JOKING.

Screencap this.

>> No.9667209

>>9667195
>>9667197
Good buy in time?

>> No.9667218

>>9667209
right now or never
you have to take risk of the mainnet, but after it its over

>> No.9667255

>>9667209
Honestly with the price this low I'd at least buy a small stack.

>> No.9667267

>>9666656
>thinking I’m upset that you won’t make it

No, no you didn’t lmao

>> No.9667291

>>9667209
Depends on the market, i can't say. If the money is already in the market just go for it. Don't see it going down relative to the market.

>> No.9667373

>>9666690
So no matter what you do, reveal or not reveal, you're always a pajeet. You can't win.

>> No.9667393

I love Ethereum. Everyone knows that Bitcoin is incompatible with Ethereum at this point. But Bitcoin's model has so many advantages over traditional ICOs.

Most ICO (and airdrop) tokens throw Ethereum's advantages out of the window; they rely on trust, they have opaque mysterious code and teams, haphazard shady distribution methods, and many are permissioned and closed-off as projects. Many act like centralized corporations and are a far cry from 'cryptocurrency'.

0xBTC is a re-imagination of bitcoin, but as an ERC20 token. In fact it is the only mined cryptocurrency which is also ERC20. It tries to be as true to the 'bitcoin' model as possible because that is what real crypto is: pure-mined, permissionless, fully transparent, open to anyone, decentralized, distributed. Thanks to Ethereum it is fast, cheap, and upgradeable due to Ethereum smart contract compatibility. There are not many services or Dapps or stores which use 0xBTC but please by all means, Buidl. There is no-one, no entity to request permission.

You can review the code here: https://etherscan.io/address/0xb6ed7644c69416d67b522e20bc294a9a9b405b31#code

Total Supply: 21,000,0000

Tokens Mined: 2,500,000 (so far!)

Mining Reward: 50 0xBTC

Algorithm: SoliditySha3

Average Mint Time Target: 15 minutes

Halvening: at 10.5m, then at 16m, then 18m, etc.

Average Transfer Time: 45 seconds (depends on Ethereum network)

Average Transfer Cost: $0.10 (depends on Ethereum network)

>> No.9667450

zilliqa, cosmos and fusion have the potential to be 50b+ coins in the future, especially zil.

if the market pass 1T, we could see ico's doing x50, x500 and even x5000 (block collider has a shot)

>> No.9667469 [DELETED] 

Take a look at some Justin Sun live streams. He is talking about the coin Tron (TRX) and how it is the internet but now it is optimized for version 3.0

>> No.9667498

Do the needful search for Justin Sun live streams. He is speaking about the coin Tron (TRX) and how it is the internet but now it is optimized for version 3.0

>> No.9667573

>>9667393
Thanks bruh, this might be indeed a x100 coin

>> No.9667580

>>9667393
fucking pajeets.

>> No.9667641

>>9666346
RVN and POLY are my picks. With tzero we are actually going to see securities traded through crypto. Right now I'm working on building new construction real estate, renting it out, and then securitize it. Cashflow paid out monthly in rvn to investors.

>> No.9667749

>>9666917
In France it is like that, few people know about crypto. Call it a shithole if it gets you off, but we're still the 7th biggest GDP of the world. Americans, especially younger ones, suffer heavily from filter bubble effect. In truth crypto is still nebulous to most people - and most of the money.

>> No.9667772

>>9667134
There has to be a price for LINK that's attractive to node operators and doesn't price them out before the network reaches a minimum ??? Like a grace period for people to realize what's going on and still be able to afford enough LINK to stake.

>> No.9667788

>>9667084
Where did they say this?

>> No.9667791

>>9667772
If node operators are big businesses they can't really be priced out. The rest of us can be though, which is why we're buying now.

>> No.9667806

>>9667772
Collateral on nodes will be based on usd value. If Link is 50 cents at 20k node would have a $10k usd value. If Link is $100 it would only take 100 Link on a node to equal the same value

>> No.9667826

>>9666346
No.

>> No.9667884

>>9667073
I went to the Holochain hackathon last week. Can confirm that the software works and it is a super legit high performance blockchain (although it's really a distributed hash table) that can handle billions of transaction per second and actually has the potential to decentralize internet protocol.

My only gripe is the structure of the HOT investment itself but I doubt the market will care if this tech catches fire.

>> No.9667915

Effect.ai will do 1000x

>> No.9667925

>>9666346
Nogainz until halvening

>> No.9668123

Yes in the bottom 5 of the top 10

>> No.9668128

>>9666640
this guy is talking about REQ

>> No.9668134

>>9667788
They don't say it. Same reason link didn't announce its testnet anywhere. You have to go see it on ropsten network events and decode the data to see the requests.
Extremely anti hype, link price will rise with adoption.

>> No.9668761

>>9666346
EOS
OMG
VEN
Are probably the only coins that can do a huge gain like those two. I got omg and eos and hoping for best.

>> No.9668963

>>9666640

ambrosus

>> No.9668990

if ambrosus actually pulls through on its promise of delivering 1 million daily bundles ($10 per bundle) then it'll moon no matter what bitcoin does

>> No.9669010

VEN and OMG are the most likely ones in my opinion

>> No.9669188
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>>9668761
>>9669010
VEN seems to be hyped.

Any timeline for how long we have to accumulate?

How about the timeline for OMG?

>> No.9669201

>>9668134
>decode the data

show me that data

>> No.9669203

>>9669188
once bull starts for one it will be for all. Id say end of june to mid jan.

>> No.9669251

>>9668990
and you think they will make the jump from minus 5 mio to 3.65 bil gross revenue anywhere in your lifetime?

>> No.9669257

This board hates Walton but I believe it will have a major major run up within a year.

>> No.9669293

dero

>> No.9669340
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9669340

>>9666346
SKYCOIN will probably do 20-40X this year and another 10X next year. So that's like 300X in two years if you're patient.

>> No.9669468

>>9667641
Why choose POLY over JNT?

>> No.9669843

>>9666346
Like many people already said, what is coming in the next few months-years is uncharted territory. We are moving from a pure speculative market to a utility cryptoeconomic market, in which actual usecases, new regulations, demand and implementation might play a greater role than speculation itself. I'm optimistic, sort of. I actually think there will be new x10000 again, but not until some interesting projects are ready. I'm not going to shill, though

>> No.9669848

>>9667884
Oh my God you make me feel SO FUCKING COMFY with my 8.5M HOT I want to hug you.

>> No.9669849

>>9669257
I love Walton.

>> No.9669906

>>9666346
Yes. LINK and EOS. this isnt even complicated stuff.

>> No.9669939

>>9667772
Link's price per token is irrelevant
>It's $1000 per Link token
>1 data request to a node costs 0.00005 Link

>It's $0.0005 per Link token
>1 data request to a node costs 100 Link

>> No.9669952

>>9666640
WEIRD AND CREEPY

>> No.9669967

Its unironically chainlink.

Those uneducated about it/uneducated about the direction of this market will argue that chainlink is a scam so DYOR.

But it is without a doubt in my mind Chainlink.

>> No.9670027

>>9669967
2 person team, are these guys really that competent? I see they are very active on github but don't code so I can't evaluate

>> No.9670032

>>9667641
how much rvn do you have? i had 250k but i sold most of it when it hit 7 cents a month ago

>> No.9670048

>>9666917
Also I will second this and let you know this is very good advice.

99% of the coin/token market is going to crumble because they essentially are not looking to solve a direct problem. They all offer bells and whistles and fancy things, hype up their product with the false lure of partnerships and I can guarantee you in 5 years time the large majority of these companies will be bankrupt.

If you want decentralization to survive 5-10 years from now, and if you have faith that this market can move beyond simple transactions then do yourself a big favor today and research the beauty of smart contracts.

Large scale transactions made with crypto will need to be made with smart contracts, and smart contracts in the future will need to be made trustless by a network of nodes acting as an oracle. Anyone here who is telling you to invest in this product that is just another platform to build DAPPs or this coin that offers fast transaction is really missing the bigger picture. BTC will rule the currency side of crypto, ETH will rule the DAPPs side of crypto, and with faith I can say Chainlink will rule the area of smart contracts.

>> No.9670053

>>9670027
They have 17 active contributors in github. And at least 7 or 8 are very active on pivotaltracker.

>> No.9670095

>>9669939
if i want a $20,000 penalty reserve for a high value smart contract, @ $0.0005, the node operator would need 40,000,000 LINK held in the contract

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>>9670027
They have more then 2 people on their team, but its irrelevant anyways because you can see they are making good progress, They are the only viable solution to the oracle problem, and they are the only ones making leaps and bounds in this space.

I can remember 2+ years ago the most common FUD Ethereum faced on /biz/ was:
>Vitalik is a russian scammer
>literal autist
>people are giving their money away to a child who has never had large success in buisness.

Now we can look back and laugh at just how wrong they all were.

>> No.9670108

Unironically a Big Mac loving Russian who only owns one shirt and his basedboy San Fran buddy Steve will be the last true moon.
Unironically Chainlink.

>> No.9670286

>>9666346
XTO. You literally have one day to buy until the exchange it's hosted on shuts down for three months.

One month from now it will debut on an exchange to rival coinbase. July 4th. Altmarket. that's all I'll give you. DYOR. Good luck.

>> No.9670410

Thoughts on IOST and their proof of believability? Claim to scale with sharding. I saw it is gaining traction in Korean news

>> No.9670688

>>9670286
>Yet another Bryce Weiner scam coin