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Gains goblins edition

Popular brokers for stock trading:
>commission free and no minimum to open

> How is it free?
Robinhood earns revenue by collecting interest on cash/securities and fees from their Robinhood Gold service

> It's been X days, why isn't my account verified yet?
Not being approved in 3 days seems to be the new norm. Nevertheless, call/email their support if you've been waiting more than that.

> When is it coming to my country?
The only "plans" are on an Australian and Chinese beta. Neither of which has gained much traction.

Interactive Brokers
>$1 commission per 100 shares. $10k minimum to open, $3k if 25 or under. Lowest margin interest. Free API access

TD Ameritade
>$6.95 commission per trade. No minimum to open. Fantastic data/charting through their free ThinkorSwim service

Degiro (Cheap broker for Europeans)

Free in depth charts:

Premarket Movers:

Earnings Report Calendar:

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:

Pump and Dump Advertising:

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)

Basic rundown on Options:
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Previous thread >>9501671

>> No.9506894

who golden bull here

>> No.9506906
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Reposting my retardation index because I'm excited for muh puts

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>> No.9506999

>IR or "implied retardation" is the level of expected faggotry within an underlying. if youre buying at high IR, ur dumb
if only we had clear levels of who is long or short on a given one. or wait, does RH even allow short selling? this information could be invaluable

>> No.9507005

Are any of those "buy" only instead of "trade"?
e.g. I can't short CARV or SHE because they are such shit
Very solid metric with the retardation score though!
GPRO and FIT have been money makers for me while UA might actually run away and P has been a bit of a struggle bus for me.
The retardation score seems to be the maximum average amount that each investor put in on the stock, and can possibly help identify what institutional investors have fled

Also, what was with the diversity meme you guys have with CARV? Is that really a value that they have or were you guys just meming?

>> No.9507028

why do so many robinhood users have shares in Cum Eating Instructions?

>> No.9507075

Ah shit.
I can't buy puts on it and it has that TVIX inc. / DRYS styled graph

>> No.9507092

Robinhood does let you short with puts, yeah. I'm going through and marking which ones have liquid options markets right now. I didn't want to do all 100, so I chose the worst 35

CARV is absolute garbage

Because RH users are idiots :)

>> No.9507129

it looks like anything with an IR<1000 is fresh meat for shorting out weak hands. a low retardation score implies that its a total shitshow with a puny, pushable float full of almost exclusively wageslaves shooting for a pipedream (ie the ones that jump first)

this is definitely going to be valuable as a tool for short selling

thats how i do it anyways. no margins anymore. never was too fond of undefined risk anyways

>> No.9507147
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>it has that TVIX inc. / DRYS styled graph
kek it just reverse splits into oblivion.

one of the ugliest charts ive ever seen is the one for TOPS (also has an IR of less than 1000)

>> No.9507181

makes me wonder, since RH has such shit charts, if these idiots even know what the fuck theyre holding onto. i wonder if any of them even understand how many times this has r/s'd?

playing that with a significant part of your portfolio is like fellating a handgun

>> No.9507185

Im watching the damn hockey game, but this retardation score thing looks promising. I've made money on 2 of the 5 most retarded companies, the others i never even touched.

>> No.9507199

You can find short interest in other ways. Just lurk moar.

>> No.9507214

oh I misunderstood, you're talking about the data of which robinhood users are long or short. Yeah they trade against the spread and fuck you.

>> No.9507222

I gauge shot interest from the open interest on puts vs. calls
You can get easier general market charts for this on Yahoo finance in addition to it's own general short interest metrics, including days to cover

>> No.9507229

yeah but dont you see? these are the memes were all mostly done with. theres gotta be someone left to hold the bags, right? well were pretty low on the foodchain, but these RHers and ST morons are the lowest of the low. falling IR means that the stock is quickly being vacated by anyone with any sense. a great indicator for the tops of memes. really what we should do is take this measurement daily, and plot the first derivative of it as the acceleration of retardation in a stock.

i guess RHers cant short anyways

>> No.9507244

>gauge shot interest from the open interest on puts vs. calls
ah so you if theres more open interest on calls, its going down?

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Updated retardation index chart showing stocks with options available with liquid markets

>> No.9507284

comfy keep writing this data down. im relatively certain that the acceleration of retardation in a stock is gonna be the one that will actually have some use as an indicator. if we track it daily on the most retarded ones (sub 1000), we can plot the derivative (or the acceleration) of faggots flowing into a smallcap stock. since theyre the ones who always get stuck with the bags, because they are the MOST retarded of all, its time to get out, or go short/buy puts.

>> No.9507306

honestly I don't know how you calculate your retardation, and I never went to school for any of this shit. Just look at the largest funded etfs, they have liquid and great option markets with smaller spreads. These obscure bullshit small cap single stocks are honestly where the real money will be made since when a company with a 10 mil market cap goes to being worth 50 mil you've 5X your money. However, it's tough to do the DD and honestly value some of these memes, when you get into actual income and actual products.

>> No.9507311

>the acceleration of retardation in a stock is gonna be the one that will actually have some use as an indicator
It indicates retards piling in without institutional money or big money pumping it.

Also, just ruined what would have been a perfect 10 count get XD

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In yo dreams
Me cannot short harder

>> No.9507348

we honestly should be honing in oon the small/mid cap that can become a large cap. Stuff like roku.

>> No.9507350

How do you calculate retardation? What goes into your criteria for retarded. I didn't get into SDRL because it fucking looked retarded but that collected quite a few retarded bag holders from robinhood.

>> No.9507371

We aren't even talking about the global index. The trade war could hurt every single market and have a global impact. The small cap shit, gets looked over and is actually where eyes should be looking for opportunity.

>> No.9507378

>more open interest on calls, its going down?
Uh, you just kinda feel out whether it's getting so packed on one side that it actually goes the opposite direction that everyone expects

>> No.9507392

It's literally just marketcap/number of robinhood users. I'm going to see if I can factor in institutional ownership/general public ownership.

>> No.9507395

Should I just raise the money to hostile take over TOPS and fucking own a business that transports shit.

>> No.9507409

Wait I already did that

That's a very very bad way to go. I assume most robinhood users aren't actually retarded.

>> No.9507416

That data is terrible. It honestly shows penny stocks are like bought. Buy like BAC warrents.

>> No.9507418

>I assume most robinhood users aren't actually retarded.
interesting assumption, considering RH has the most retail of retail investors

>> No.9507430

Check /r/robinhood, /r/investing and /r/wsb.
>78% of them are under 35
Robinhood users are millennial retards

>> No.9507434

Any algo traders here?

>> No.9507456

SDRL was shilled at the same time as OPT when we were looking for oceanic treasures in the energy market. Those companies have been on the radar for months.

>> No.9507475

I'm taking a shot at ML.
quantopian with momentum strategies is a good way to start

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>> No.9507503

Who else /no candlesticks/ here? I only use line

>> No.9507515

ROKU is retarded. People just do NFLX if not cable. I think they also have to compete with Chromecast, AMZN fire stick, and some kind of AAPL shit now.

>> No.9507534

i also use robinhood

>> No.9507536

that's not true, ROKU can stream live sports, and that is important to people who appreciate sports.

>> No.9507545

>It indicates retards piling in without institutional money or big money pumping it.
i know and you could plot it really easy. itd be like an RSI

so kinda like what comfys doing on the retardation index. find high concentrations of retards and bet against them

>I assume most robinhood users aren't actually retarded.
i dunno about this. i know theres plently who are prolly fine, but were looking at the average here. theres WAY more dummys than actual traders there

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>> No.9507554

honestly yeah you're right, i have a cable provider for my internet trying to sell me tv like every day, and I have a satalite provider who's calling me to try to get me to upgrade my shit like every day.

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Its the consumer report

Today Cambells Chiken soup droped hardcore and brought the whole packaged foods with it

Smuckers jelly is done for
Hostess done
Del Monte done
BGS done

Buy the GIS and MKC dip
Outlook: Very bad

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daytrading ne thing else but SPY seem so dirty

me use candles but only buy and sell from ticker


>> No.9507629

>itd be like an RSI
We could call it the Stupid Money Index
or Retard Strength Index

Candlesticks are super broken. Only the super rare ones have greater than 70% accuracy, and those ones are super obvious chaser ones like 3 white soldiers, 3 black grows, or the rising star inversion shits

>> No.9507652

yea it seems those things have been getting fucking hammered lately.

honestly you should try SQ
SQ has WAY more short term volatility
and the options are pretty liquid if youre doing that

i was thinking more like the "faggotry flow" or FF for short

>> No.9507679

Is there anyway we can pull the data from https://robinhood.com/collections/100-most-popular into an excel spreadsheet to automatically chart it?

>> No.9507692

You sure like to play dead, don't you?

>> No.9507699

I was looking at their Network calls / API. It looks pretty janky, m8

>"faggotry flow" or FF for short
I like it. Sounds solid for memes like "heavy flow days"

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She has a lot of practice

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only blue ids will make it

>> No.9507737

I can't run it through excel like I usually do because the page isn't public, you have to sign in. Why are these people so retarded

>> No.9507740

Momentum investing is profitable.

No you need some fucking patience. Look only at 4 hour candles for a month strait. Play the market like baseball. Except you can pass every strike right down the middle, and you never have to worry about it hurting you. Wait for the one riight down the middle and stick with it.

>> No.9507747

i find candlesticks totally and utterly useless unless combined with ichimoku, volume and RSI at the very least. then i only pay attention to the volume spikes at reversal points, and the pattern is more a confirmation point than anything. im more looking at how the candle gets shaped throughout the volume spike.

i would definitely risk real money to try out the FF indicator if we can figure this out

>> No.9507748

Sounds about right desu.
RKG is the only one that already invested in kneepads

>> No.9507754

Vegas is killing it!

>> No.9507760

I'm going to try and archive the page and pull the data from that instead of the live webpage. It'll be a pain to update but i can't get the live update to work right now

>> No.9507763

>i find candlesticks totally and utterly useless unless combined with ichimoku, volume and RSI at the very least. then i only pay attention to the volume spikes at reversal points, and the pattern is more a confirmation point than anything. im more looking at how the candle gets shaped throughout the volume spike.

reread that and liike umm ok?

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Reluctant Sucky Interferencer

>> No.9507780

Fuck that. I'm going to keep working on my mechanical tea leaves -- machine learning

>> No.9507785

i shouldve specified the 1min

you never see those huge orders roll in on reversal points? though i get faked out less now that i watch the market depth charts. really helpful for daytrading

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What did they mean by this?

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Buy the Kimberley Clark DIP
And one day this can be yours!

>> No.9507834

>huge orders roll in on reversal points
Sounds like some Renaissance Technologies shit

I really like "faggotry flow" index because if some shit is just fucking pumping like SDRL did, which is now trending, we can check if it's just a "heavy flow" day. Which will be epic for our memes.

We are complimenting you on your decision to invest in kneepads

>> No.9507853

I know what that shit is!
They don't have CORS set up. That's basically a huge fuck you to anybody trying to call their backend from a different website.

>> No.9507868

lel maybe by the time im 80

>Renaissance Technologies shit
how do you mean?
i was just doing it more because of that one wyckoff book about reading ticker tape back in the 20s. i always get good prices if i watch the depth charts. been trying to only use candles on bigger timeframes anyways because they dont mean much at 1min

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These fucking juden, i'm going to rage tweet them
We just want a live faggotry flow index and a live update retardation index, we're not selling the data!

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Buffet says Golden income for golden hands only

>> No.9507937

>Renaissance Technologies shit
Renaissance Technologies is an algo trading firm that is kicking Warren Buffett's ass. They are what inspired me to go after an ML approach to this.

>> No.9507971

You're able to get around it by calling the backend endpoints from cURL or anything outside of browser, but browsers will not play nicely unless CORS is enabled.

There's also plug-ins for most browsers to circumvent this issue.
It's something like "enable CORS everywhere". You should try that before cURL.

>> No.9508079

Fak, okay thanks I'll work on it. I would do it by hand, but that's a massive pain for moving total number of users/market cap/rank out of 100 for all 100 of them. Maybe I'll go ask /g/ later tonight

>> No.9508098


>There's also plug-ins for most browsers to circumvent this issue

It's literally just a browser plug-in that you install, and you should no longer get an Access-Control-Allow-Origin message

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How to profit from blackholes?

>> No.9508127

Short medical companies that make x-ray machines. As soon as we can harvest the x-rays from black holes, the machines will be worthless.

>> No.9508133

create garbage company, send trash through it,

>> No.9508198

i suppose you could buy really short term put contracts on any companies passing the event horizon. since time would break down exponentially, theta would be neutral, and as the company gets annihilated at a molecular level, your put contracts high delta/cost ratio would net you some awesome leverage. and since you only buy on the passing through the event horizon signal, its a 100% winning trade.

now the question is, which companies are the close to blackholes?

>> No.9508249

Goddamn, I'm getting blue balls from HMNY. When this fucker starts moving, it's going to move hard. I've just been on the edge of my seat waiting for something to happen all week.

>> No.9508540

Holy shit. I got a dedicated salt thread.
This is the proudest moment of my life.

>> No.9508771

Hey guys, are these coins on Binance. Kidding, but do you boomers also invest in crypto?

Thoughts on stock market crash in 2019 re:housing, debt in Canada?

>> No.9508822

>do you boomers also invest in crypto?


>Thoughts on stock market crash in 2019 re:housing, debt in Canada?

i dunno. buy weed stocks.

>> No.9508845

if youre not all in on mgm, you dont get an easy 10% within a month. like just buy n hold nigga shits easy

>> No.9508861

This is the mentality that will fuck you. I’m in at .60 and comfy but it will probably drop to .50 before a hard rebound.

>> No.9508862


they're a bubble

>> No.9508913


yer mum is a bubble. buy weed stocks.

>> No.9509030

Give me dank Casino stocks

>> No.9509088

kinda missed the boat on rrr breh, but if it dips again before june earnings, load em up nugga

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I bought $7 puts expiring next month for $ACB.CA

aurora cannabis..
i'm getting the valiant vibes from this..they just bought another company for $3 billion (in shares)...something is so fucking wrong if the weed industry is not what its hyped out to be then these companies are so fucked.,

>> No.9509186

Weed is pharmacy, recreational, and beer and wine all wrapped together. Its not like lambo crypto moon but Lexus aint bad.

>> No.9509187

I'm not even in it yet. I just want to see which way it starts moving. I'd rather wait and buy at $1 than buy in right now and miss an opportunity to buy it at $0.25.

>> No.9509202


They have nice HIV drugs

>> No.9509276
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Haven’t even talked abiut if alcohol and tobacco started buying weed companies. If Philip Morris bought canopy, awe sheeeeeeet nigga!

>> No.9509378

I agree but their success is dependent entirely on government and politics. Weed may be legalized soon, but the only way I see these companies market cap justified is if they are able to create brands, beautiful packaging, THC edibles, drinks, lube..literally anything everything.

And ACB is exaggerating german medicinal market...

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New investment strategy
Buy 1 share of every stock with single letters (A, B, C, D, E, F ect all the way to Z)

If a stock has 1 letter, they must be good, so they will go up

>> No.9509437


>> No.9509457

>beautiful packaging

Nope. Current bill has exceptionally strict criteria for packaging. It's basically brown bag with a logo.

>THC edibles, drinks

Won't be legal this year.

>> No.9509493


Buy N. They're a weed company.

>> No.9509500

Well government and politics in USA is money based. Pharmacy, beer, and tobacco have huge sway over fed policy. Beer and tobacco have been cratering, lost about 25%, with less and less millennial usage. Their only recourse is weed. Plus trump can use weed legalization as a bargaining chip. If he ever gets in trouble marijuana legslization and even emancipation for only weed felonies is s get out of jail free card. It may take a few years for full legslization but I feel like it’s guaranteed, esp where pharmacy is concerned with opiate abuse and epilepsy. The USA is already behind.

>> No.9509544

yup, I saw the proposed packaging and it looks fucking horrible.
That and letting people grow their own plants (yes I know this is not a problem for beer/wine). Also looking at how much these companies pay their execs despite revenues being horrible. The amount they owe financers...

A small delay in legalization will bleed these companies no?

Seriously, I invested in weedstocks last year, pulled my money out early and missed maybe a 2x gain (still made about 60%)..now I truly see how fucked up this bubble is..we need to find a way to short this dude.

>> No.9509576

This is true, same for Canada..Liberals will use this to win next election if legalization is done right.
Trump could create distractions by doing this as well..
It is guaranteed and that is where the market is going but I already see big pharma companies trying to regulate the fuck out of any cbd byproducts..GW Pharma already has one pending phase 3?

i'm just trying to see how best we can all make money on biz..right now the herd seems to be pumping the fuck out of weed (before the correction ofcourse)

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>> No.9511183

Millennials don't set stop losses, so they're actually going to win bigly on this, while boomers are going to lose their shares during the flash crash if they have stop losses set. Not to mention those who are going to get anally wrecked by shorting a stock on the verge of moving several hundred percent.

>> No.9512121

hey theres still some room to run in this thread

this is what leads me to believe the stock will collapse in the meantime. needs fresh bulls with more money to beat these bears.

>Millennials don't set stop losses, so they're actually going to win bigly on this, while boomers are going to lose their shares during the flash crash if they have stop losses set
this is actually a good point, and i hadnt thought about it. the "flash crash" will definitely happen though. bears havent really struck back in any meaningful way. theyve only been playing defense. something tells me it wont be for long. it seems a lot of people whove been sidelined (likely with more money and exp) have been waiting for a lower entry point. ive seen 25cents discussed quite a bit. im gonna watch that point and see what happens

either way, i already have 10 tickets to the moon (calls i bought for a couple bucks to exercise when it moons), so i dont give a fuck. either im out 100 bucks, or i get to LARP that i was part of some big battle

>> No.9512285

looking for some biotech companies to invest in $1.5k into. is Achillion Pharmaceuticals a good investment?

i already have $2k in crypto so I want to diversify

>> No.9512378

CELG if you have the balls to catch a falling knife.

>> No.9512541

Achillion Pharma's pipelines are shit
Drug for HCV ?
There are already cure for this shit and HCV population has been steadily dwindling.

What is your objective with biotech ?
Safer choices would be buying the large caps like GILD REGN BIIB AMGN
Or you can gamble on the gene editing/therapy memes : CRSP EDIT NTLA BLUE or the gene meme etf ARKG
There is a funny stock called ALGN which makes next-gen dental prosthesis. Buy it would be full FOMO but their products sell like hot cakes.

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Is this op retarded? Only margin trading has a minimum of 25K on interactive brokers

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Weekend are for lose all money margin trade crypto

>> No.9513638

Just took enough painkillers for open up Forex account kek ;_;

Ne one want see the guro? Me knew it bad... but not this bad.....

>> No.9514332

Morning fellas, I fell for the sell off meme yesterday and shit wiped my gains form Thursday but Uso will save me
T.uso options faggot