Stop I can only get so erect..

[Anonymous No.9504622]

One of the leading BCH devs decked of in ancap black and gold right on stage giving a presentation.
/ourfuckingguy
BCH is and always will be the explicitly ancap coin!

[Anonymous No.9504828]

Powerful

[Anonymous No.9504911]

>>9504622
>explicitly ancap coin!
meanwhile its implicitly the opposite.

[Anonymous No.9504937]

this is extremely autistic. the fuck

[Anonymous No.9504940]

>>9504622
And gave a speech to a bunch of suits.

[Anonymous No.9504941]

>>9504911
explain your reasoning?

[Anonymous No.9504958]

Bitcoin NAP

[Anonymous No.9504968]

Based

[Anonymous No.9504985]

>>9504941
>run by a single company
>requires hard shilling to promote
>forked 20% of the nodes off and the users celebrated the incoming centralization
>Miners won't even bother to mine a full block even if fees are paid because of the orphan risk
idk you tell me

[Anonymous No.9505010]

>>9504985
this guy knows his shit.

[Anonymous No.9505038]

>"an"cap

you fedoras do realize that anarchism is the abolition of hierarchy, and hierarchy is inherent in capitalism

right?

[Anonymous No.9505099]

>>9504985
Literally every single thing you just said was wrong. And it's actually more true in reverse regarding btc, which is run by blockstream, has absolutely nothing going for it and lightning shilling is the most boring and stupid shit ever which always reduces to "it could be so much worse and you don't have to use it". All the core nodes have dictatorial lockstep with the rules demanded by the core devs, who act completely unilaterally and make utterly fucking retarded decisions like rbf and segwit. And there's no quantification of block annealing from orphan risk at all, you're simply talking out of your ass parroting something someone smarter than you said which you clearly didn't actually understand.

[Anonymous No.9505114]

>>9505099
straight from the bcash shill handbook. I've literally seen this exact same response before, you paid shills need to fuck off this board

[Anonymous No.9505131]

>>9505099
>Yfw lightning works

[Anonymous No.9505149]

>>9504985
basically you believe Bitcoin is owned by blockstream and hardforking away is brand theft.

[Anonymous No.9505155]

>>9505114
Wow, you've seen people repeat the same facts in response to the same lies multiple times? Amazing. This is surely evidence they were never lies to begin with. So you'd also be a flat earther, young earth creationist, ancient alien, homeopathy and astral projection adherent since they're always refuted with the same consistent set of facts too yeah?

[Anonymous No.9505176]

>>9505131
> yfw lightning (((works)))

[Anonymous No.9505224]

>>9505010
ikr what a guy

[Anonymous No.9505328]

>leading BCH devs
there is no leader
theres loads of different teams developing BCH, notably nChain and BitcoinABC

Bcore only has 1 team. bitcoin core. Sad!

[Anonymous No.9505390]

>>9505176
https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/
https://medium.com/@tyzbit/why-the-lightning-network-is-more-than-meets-the-eye-969ff0c27ea8

>>9505328
LMAO

[Anonymous No.9505406]

>>9504622
Bitcoin CASH

[Anonymous No.9505408]

>>9505176
>Picks two well connected nodes
>Debunked picture
Why don't you post the whole network baby?

[Anonymous No.9505465]

>>9505328
And when the teams don't perfectly communicate, you lose 20% of your nodes. Amazing.

Not to mention that BTC has more non-core commits since the fork than BCH has total in all of the 'teams' combined.

[Anonymous No.9505497]

>>9504622
>ancap

[Anonymous No.9505502]

>>9505408
>(((well connected))) nodes

[Anonymous No.9505519]

>>9505502
There are literally dozens if not hundreds of nodes just as connected as those two, but go ahead tell me how every single one is the 'center' of the network.

[Anonymous No.9505535]

If you unironically think ANCAP is a good idea you might be slightly retarded. Sorry mate.

[Anonymous No.9505569]

>>9505519
You clearly don't even have an idea of what the inverse of what you think the reality is would actually look like when you unironically throw around words that make it completely clear just how centralised lightning is and must be.
You're just a disingenuous shill, and you'll change the narrative to match whatever doesn't make your employers look like the saboteurs they are.
It isn't working.

[Anonymous No.9505590]

>>9505131
0.00001 mBTC = 1 satoshi

with BCH a transaction has a fee of 1 satoshi/byte. a transaction is usually 230-250 bytes with one input and two outputs

all that convoluted bullshit of setting up lightning and compromising the idea behind bitcoin just to go from "basically no fee" to "almost no fee". if you'd get 50k transactions per 1 satoshi in fees then maybe i would understand it but this is so not worth the price to pay.

[Anonymous No.9505595]

>>9505569
You could connect 20 billion trillion nodes together every single one will look like a huge hub you fucking loser.

[Anonymous No.9505613]

>>9505590
What happens when 1 satoshi is $1 or even more?

[Anonymous No.9505649]

>>9505613
you make it so that the minimum to accept is 0.1 satoshis per byte instead of 1.

[Anonymous No.9505766]

>>9505590
It's a factor of 200x savings, what?
>>9505569
>No arguments
LN is not centralized, and is only becoming more decentralized.

[Anonymous No.9505792]

>>9505766
> unjustified assertion contrary to observed evidence

[Anonymous No.9505803]

>>9505792
>contrary to observed evidence
here, have a graph

[Anonymous No.9505817]

>>9505176

Why are 2 nodes hgihlighed but all the other ones in the backgroudn gray? lol...

[Anonymous No.9505838]

>>9505803
> assuming infinite capacity

[Anonymous No.9505849]

>>9505649
with the current lightning implementation you can route for zero fee, and people can choose fees like 0.001 sat. so you do 1000 transactions for one satoshi.

[Anonymous No.9505861]

>>9505817
Because they're the most centralised nodes. Lightning was designed to be a hub and spoke network, which is necessarily subject to controllable choke points, unlike the actual bitcoin network it is being forced to replace.

[Anonymous No.9505863]

>>9505838
>I can't send money I don't have
do you have an argument why this is a bad metric or are you just a parrot?

[Anonymous No.9505894]

>>9505803

>Blockstream's mission statement is to sell sidechains they themselves control
>Niggers still arguing it's totally uncentralized

low iq bcore tards

[Anonymous No.9505924]

>>9505894
its funny, you revealed a lot about your intelligence with this post.

[Anonymous No.9505946]

>>9505863
Do I have an argument for why a graph that claims to make statements about the resilience of the network but neglects to account for the extremely limited route capacities at all and instead assumes they're all infinite is not useful, letalone accurate?
Yes. That.

[Anonymous No.9505965]

>>9505924
That he is smarter than bcore tards who can't see they're being played and instead keep their mouths firmly affixed to blockstream's dick. Yes.

[Anonymous No.9505973]

>lightning

If it still costs you $20 to load up a lightning wallet nobody is going to use it.

[Anonymous No.9505993]

>>9505946
thats still not an argument. The graph is for comparative and heuristic purposes.

If I made a similar graph accounting for all the routes between major US cities it would look about the same, and it would be reasonable to just act as if all roads are equal.

>meanwhile zero-conf double spends clear in BCH daily
any defense for this?

>>9505973
Actually it only costs 1 cent, its just a BTC transaction.

[Anonymous No.9506001]

>>9505993

[Anonymous No.9506007]

>>9505993
average fees are already over $1

[Anonymous No.9506010]

>>9505973

[Anonymous No.9506013]

jesus christ this shit flinging contest never stops. i honestly don't know what to do. may go all in eth tbqh

[Anonymous No.9506021]

>>9506007
>paying the average fee
what are you retarded? Post an address, Ill send you a transaction for 1 cent.

[Anonymous No.9506026]

>>9505993
> The graph is for comparative and heuristic purposes.
An inaccurate comparison to an inaccurate comparison, with a deceptive side scale on top. In summary no useful actual actionable information whatsoever.
> muh double spend
Yeah, it's bullshit. Go claim the bounty or shut the fuck up with your nonsense.

[Anonymous No.9506032]

>>9506026
https://doublespend.cash/

[Anonymous No.9506035]

>>9505176

[Anonymous No.9506042]

>>9504622
surely you mean it's a sign

[Anonymous No.9506050]

>>9505993
>Actually it only costs 1 cent, its just a BTC transaction.
Remember the beginning of the year? If people start using BTC again, even if it's just to start lightning channels, that 1mb block space is going to fill up real quick and we're going to go back to $30 dollar transaction fees. Lightning isn't a real scaling solution.

[Anonymous No.9506064]

>>9506050
Ok, well if that happens, we can just increase the blocksize :DDD

[Anonymous No.9506066]

>>9506032
Your delusions about what you think you see there don't change the reality.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CRYPTONIZE_IT/status/962997231728103424
Go claim it or shut the fuck up you worthless cunt.

[Anonymous No.9506071]

>>9506064
what if the miners block it?

[Anonymous No.9506098]

>>9506071
Like they blocked segwit?

[Anonymous No.9506100]

>>9506071
There is no if about it. It's guaranteed. They're screwed.

[Anonymous No.9506107]

>>9506064
>if
Are you implying that there's a chance of that not happening?

[Anonymous No.9506115]

>>9506066
You see it too.
>>9506071
Then they shoot themselves in the foot

[Anonymous No.9506116]

>>9505131
>>9505408
>>9505519
CEO of Blockstream quoted that LN is meant to be sold as side chains and that it can't scale long term.

[Anonymous No.9506127]

>>9506107
So you're saying BTC IS going to have a have a massive spike in adoption and price, no if? That's great lol

[Anonymous No.9506134]

>>9506116
Well that would be super weird considering LN is a 2nd layer, not a side chain you fuckin goof.

[Anonymous No.9506160]

>>9506116
post the quote
wait, not a wall of text
THE QUOTE

[Anonymous No.9506226]

>>9506127
Yes, and if core refuses to increase the blocksize the next time around BTC will die.

[Anonymous No.9506249]

>>9506032

I was always sorta iffy on 0-conf because I could never understand the motivation. Weren't confirmations the point behind bitcoin? I suppose in the future you could get some agreement between miners to ignore double spend attacks

[Anonymous No.9506277]

>>9506249
0-conf is a huge selling point for BCH, they bill it as "Instant transactions" but they're inherently unsafe.

[Anonymous No.9506286]

>>9505766
>It's a factor of 200x savings, what?
Yeah but dust is still dust. With BCH you pay dust and you still have on-chain transactions. With LN you pay dust and have off-chain transactions and a super complicated non-scaling system, with channels you have to fill first with an on-chain transaction and that you're constantly at risk of someone else depleting out of your control.

The BCH fee is dust. The LN fee is dust + a lot of nonsense bullshit.

>>9505849
You can chose to have 0.001 sat fees in Bitcoin Cash as well, if a miner will accepts it is a different question. However since the blocks are far from full they are just saying no to money when not accepting it.

[Anonymous No.9506309]

>>9506277
Under core rules. Not when they're a design goal of the chain and they've committed to making it happen, rather than the core situation of committing to breaking it on purpose.

[Anonymous No.9506329]

>>9506134
>>9506160
Here you go, children.

Adam Back himself confirming his quote on Twitter that "Blockstream plans to sell SIDE CHAINS to enterprises, charging a monthly fee...".....

>not a side chain but 2nd layer
Adam Back confirms quote with the term SIDE CHAIN

You kids don't even know the product you are supporting. Kek.

How's working at Subway?

[Anonymous No.9506334]

>>9506277
nah, as long as you do it for small transactions they are safe enough. wait 5 sec and if you have seen the intended transaction you know that the rest of the network has seen it too. it cost more for a 1337 haxor to try and double spend his 2 USD transaction than just to pay what he's owed.

[Anonymous No.9506359]

For anyone genuinely curious about the entire thing:
http://derekmagill.com/bitcoin/

[Anonymous No.9506360]

>>9506334
>>9506309
https://doublespend.cash/

They literally happen several times a day with up to 3 minutes between the first and second spend.

[Anonymous No.9506369]

>>9506329
The quote you posted does not support the assertion you made
You = retard

[Anonymous No.9506375]

>>9506359
first line
>Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin
feel safe ignoring you completely.

[Anonymous No.9506386]

>>9506360
Repeating yourself doesn't make you any less of a lying cunt. Collect the bounty or go back to sucking dick for a living.

[Anonymous No.9506387]

>>9504622
>at top of a hierarchy
>anarchist

[Anonymous No.9506395]

>>9506329
it's really is a pity what Adam Back wanted Bitcoin to become. he was mentioned in the original whitepaper by Satoshi himself you know.
https://bitcoin.com/bitcoin.pdf (CTRL+F for "Adam")

[Anonymous No.9506423]

>>9506369
Classic response. Divert from topic with non-argument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g

[Anonymous No.9506427]

>>9506360
those are detected double spends, not successful ones.

[Anonymous No.9506448]

>>9506423
>HURRRRRRR
You made a claim, it was wrong. You posted some shit that doesn't back it up.
You're a fucking retard, but you already know that.
Fucking cashies man.

[Anonymous No.9506465]

>>9506386
OK outline the bounty, I'll go do it.
I got $120k BCH anyway,
>>9506427
Scroll down idiot.
>>9506423
>tired old video of one guys misguided and debunked views
>talks like a sad sack to set the tone as oppressive
ok

[Anonymous No.9506474]

>>9506329
Did you even read that you fucking retard?
Try again, just this time read it more slowly so you can follow along.

[Anonymous No.9506527]

>>9506465
>Scroll down idiot.
you're a poopie head
hurts doesn't it? and now you dont want to listen to me any more because i just threw insults around me

[Anonymous No.9506537]

>>9506465
120k BCH huh? Good to see you put your money where your mouth is and all. Can't say I'm surprised though, you always sound like a slimy disingenuous lying cunt just trying to pump your ego on your utterly retarded perceptions. If i viewed things as skewed as you I wouldn't invest in my own perceptions either.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CRYPTONIZE_IT/status/962997231728103424

[Anonymous No.9506633]

>>9506537
>120k BCH
no $120k of BCH. Forks are a bitch huh? I never put a cent into your shitcoin, and yet I have the capacity to dump it.
>https://mobile.twitter.com/CRYPTONIZE_IT/status/962997231728103424
so the guy says "buy my 1k gift card for 2k" The thing is a double-spend isn't guaranteed, so I could probably do it about half the time, so thats not a bounty its gambling. If it was priced fairly then yes. But the fact that he has to double the price indicates that 0-conf is non viable.

[Anonymous No.9506657]

>>9506360
Interesting, looks like people are submitting higher-fee txs since their low or no-fee ones aren’t getting confirmed. Instead of RBF they just submit the same tx again and let the network sort out which is a double spend.
Only situation where this approach to network load wouldn’t work is one where your input has more than 2x the amount you want to output, but that’s trivially solved by change addresses.

[Anonymous No.9506659]

>>9505038
Ancaps are not against emergent and voluntary hierarchy, we have a problem with mandatory hierarchy enforced at gun point.

Also, if you want freedom loving, just check what all bitcoin OG have published and what they are still posting on social media. BCH is like your teenage edgy ancap that doesn’t truly understand the implication of the ideology but just likes to be part of the ancap “team”.

[Anonymous No.9506663]

>ancap
>patents
lmao

[Anonymous No.9506692]

>>9506657
>since their low or no-fee ones aren’t getting confirmed.
in the gargantuan empty blocks? Whats the excuse?

[Anonymous No.9506709]

>>9506663
>y-you don't understand
>being a patent troll is 4D c-chess

[Anonymous No.9506710]

>>9506329
you ABSOLUTE fucking retard.
go to the blockstream website and use your goddamn eyes.
that quote is referring to pic related.

[Anonymous No.9506727]

>>9506692
bip 133
not many people aware of the problem it presents, i hope it is removed
https://jasonc.me/blog/bitcoin-bip-133-double-spends-bch

[Anonymous No.9506740]

>>9506633
u didnt sell at .5? haha loser

[Anonymous No.9506742]

>>9506329
also compare this with the other pic if you're too retarded to go to blockstream yourself

[Anonymous No.9506744]

>>9505328
>Bcore only has 1 team
Imagine being this stupid. Have you ever taken a look at the bitcoin github? Probably not. You just regurgitate shit from other retard shills.

[Anonymous No.9506750]

>>9506740
>breaking out my keys
no

[Anonymous No.9506774]

>>9506750
do u really think your 100 bch will do anything? lmao

[Anonymous No.9506782]

>>9506360
btw just in case someone didn't spot it on his own, the only successful "double spends" are when the original have less than 1 satoshi/byte as fee. which makes the transaction not accepted by most miners, but it's still propagated in case someone wants to include it in a block. so of course the "double spend" transaction is included in the block when it has the the minimum acceptable fee

any merchant accepting 0-conf need to check that the fee of the transaction isn't too low. but that's just how 0-conf works.

[Anonymous No.9506788]

>>9506774
I don't think you understand, my keys are in cold storage. I'm not getting everything out just to sell the BCH.

[Anonymous No.9506809]

>>9506782
What's the justification to not include a transaction with 0.99 sats/byte? The blocks are less than 1/100th full.

[Anonymous No.9506814]

>>9506710
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL

Liquid is new... Adam Back's tweet was in Oct 2017.

And in his quote he says - LIGHTNING NETWORK, not Liquid.

This will make you feel better: tab tab tab bcore bcore bcore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUgL-4fx2JE

[Anonymous No.9506817]

>>9506788
i see. so whats ur plan? just keep it in cold storage forever?

[Anonymous No.9506851]

>>9506817
Basically yes.

[Anonymous No.9506855]

>>9506742
bcore + liquid core kek

[Anonymous No.9506870]

>>9506851
so why are u so critical about bch? you have even distribution of both. no reason to get assbent over one or the other. youre good either way.

[Anonymous No.9506871]

>>9506809
i think it's just some kind of spam protection. ive tried to argue on reddit for lower bch fees for a few months, hopefully it'll happen. i guess the miners deserve some kind of carrot tho, just hope a lowering of the fees aren't off the table later.

[Anonymous No.9506876]

>>9506633
So dump it if you're so sure you're right. Everything you say indicates you are, despite the fact you're not. Walk your talk.
And I'm supremely unsurprised that when it comes right down to it, even with the state of the bch network as it is right now you wouldn't even try it. Letalone how it will be when miners implement no continuing of second seen transactions in blocks, period, at which point zero conf transactions are extremely reliable on penalty of orphaning blocks that don't respect them.
At the end of the day you're just a clueless idiot who lucked out in an early investment in something you never really understood, and now you've reached the maximum level your intellect can actually comprehend and you're failing miserably to go any further.

[Anonymous No.9506899]

>>9506871
>i guess the miners deserve some kind of carrot tho
What about the block reward
>>9506870
I'm critical of BCH because it's comprised of bad actors, and only damages crypto.

[Anonymous No.9506915]

>>9506876
So basically what your saying is that I'm smart to hold it, got it.

[Anonymous No.9506937]

>>9505497
Monero is planning on using (((lightning)))

[Anonymous No.9507042]

>>9506937
(((Bitcoin Cash)))

[Anonymous No.9507060]

>>9506915
Literally the first accurate thing I've ever heard you say. Still you should dump it. Have faith in your idiocy. You deserve the results.

[Anonymous No.9507073]

Arguing about BTC vs BCH eventhough both of them are outdated tech loosing dominance every day

[Anonymous No.9507080]

>>9506937
Proof?

[Anonymous No.9507083]

>>9506937
there is no chance

[Anonymous No.9507091]

>>9506899
Block reward goes away eventually. Either the coin gains worldwide adoption or it dies. If fees were free right now, you just know bad actors would spam the chain just to prove their "big blocks are bad" narrative. Right now, fees are under a cent which is fine for commerce. I can't predict if 1sat/byte will be the bottom forever, especially if BCH takes off in a big way such that it gets to be substantial $ value, but I hope that fee does drop if that happens. It's supposed to be cash after all.

Any decentralized "group" will have people you don't like. I'm sure there are some crazies within BTC community you dislike.

If you are truthful in what you say, that you have 100 BCH from the fork, that means you got quite rich from BTC holding alone. You got your shit in cold storage, so you aren't using it as cash, so the negative aspects of BTC have not been a concern to you. Price went up and you got rich, no problems.

Problem I see is with adoption, Bitcoin NEEDS to be used as cash or else in a couple more halvenings it wont be worth it to mine anymore and it will die. Block rewards just get the ball rolling. LN leeches fees away from miners, and I think long term they want to do away with the blockchain entirely, but who knows.

While BCH has controversial figures, it also has the best ground game in crypto. There are meetups worldwide popping up constantly, yeah greasy nerds but whatever it's crypto. Literally all they do in r/btc is talk about what merchants they got onto BCH, all while BTC is for the first time in its history losing merchant adoption. While you say 0-conf is unreliable, and I agree it is not perfect right now due to bip 133 which ought to be removed from BCH, it is "good enough" and pretty damn simple for every day purchases. It can be used as cash right now. Though you still shouldn't buy a house with 0-conf. Wait for some confirmations for big purchases.

[Anonymous No.9507096]

>>9507073
>I don't understand the issues so I'll say it's stupid to talk about them

[Anonymous No.9507098]

>>9507091
So while it might seem "damaging" to the speculative market, mostly because of the vitriol on both sides, I think BCH is making the biggest strides in actual world wide usage for crypto.

[Anonymous No.9507108]

>>9506899
yeah what about the block reward? it's a different carrot. you know, you're a pretty annoying person. haven't been pleasant to talk to one bit throughout the whole thread. hope you're not like this in real life too.

[Anonymous No.9507156]

>>9507096

EOS will kill both, Iota will kill both, Ethereum basically *already* kills both, not to mention what is going to happen when Casper hits. Fucking nano meme coin already murders both in terms. Of tech (speed, security, fees, environnemental friendlyness).

[Anonymous No.9507169]

>>9507083
why not

[Anonymous No.9507170]

>>9507108
Even better lol.

[Anonymous No.9507194]

>>9505131
You want a centralized coin, buy Dash or Ripple you fuck

[Anonymous No.9507198]

>>9507170
>33 posts by this ID
do you get paid by post? how can i get into blockstream's payroll :3

[Anonymous No.9507207]

>>9507156
>EOS will kill both, Iota will kill both
Lmao EOS is the only coin that could be an actual Illuminati conspiracy. It's a good thing it's shit.
All you need to know about IOTA is that they are hyping a fucking *wallet*.
Ethereum is legit big dick. The only real competition.

[Anonymous No.9507217]

Every day I think about how I missed out. Knew about bitcoin in 2009. Could've mined it just like I was bruteforcing hashed passwords that very same year...I was so close to getting into it. But I didn't. Now I wonder how many of the people I see on an everyday basis did what I should've done.
My one chance of never having to worry about money ever again. Gone...just like that.
Anyone else here as close as I was and also didn't get involved? Will probably forever have bitcoin grief

[Anonymous No.9507227]

>>9507198
you should have seen the BCH thread yesterday. One BCH shill had 90 posts of getting his shit blasted over a 17 hour period (posting at least twice per hour). Basically he spent a whole day losing an argument.

[Anonymous No.9507231]

>>9507080
check the roadmap

[Anonymous No.9507263]

>>9505924

yea, that he has a higher IQ than you

[Anonymous No.9507287]

>>9507263
read the thread.

[Anonymous No.9507291]

>>9505993

fucking brainlet

the US road infrastructure is highly centralized; for Lightning to be anything like it is not a good thing.

You take out a few major highways and you make all kinds of areas inaccessible to each other (or at the very least force fucked up inefficient routes).

[Anonymous No.9507314]

>>9507291
>reddit spacing
anyway, I was making an example. LN is nothing like the US road system, but you could make a similar graph.

[Anonymous No.9507316]

>>9507227
I saw that thread, you were in it posting the same weedy manlet image and declaring victory although you clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and the other guy made you look exactly like it.
You seem to have a psychological need to be right, but not enough intelligence to actually be right.
Pity.

[Anonymous No.9507327]

>>9507291
the internet was a mistake

[Anonymous No.9507331]

>>9507316
>I saw that thread
read as:
>I was that buttblasted poster

[Anonymous No.9507346]

>>9507316
You know dude, we probably have this same conversation every single day. And I don't mind.

[Anonymous No.9507366]

>>9506134

the absolute state.

sidechains are 2nd layer solutions by definition.

The ignorance of coretards combined with their self assurance is an astounding display of cognitive dissonance. On some level you know you understand very little about this shit yet you project all of the self confidence in your braindead arguments as through you were Satoshi himself.

[Anonymous No.9507372]

>>9507366
>reddit spacing
you just cant help yourself

[Anonymous No.9507401]

>>9507346
No. I was not feeling quite masochistic enough that day to actually deal with your bullshit directly and everyone else seemed to be doing a fine job anyway.
Actually now that I think about it, that was a good approach. Talking to you really is just a waste of time, you're like a particularly thick brick wall, except less observant and more stubborn.
I think I'll leave it at that, have a nice life. Other people can deal with your nonsense.

[Anonymous No.9507403]

>>9506633

the point is double spending is trivially easy for a merchant to detect, and thats really all that matters. the onlu way you could get a nondetectable guaranteed double spend is to collude with a miner, but they risk the block reward and/or being orphaned or blacklisted by the other miners if they do

0-conf is safe

[Anonymous No.9507404]

>>9505038

>capitalism is inherently hierarchical

If you examine anything you can establish a hierarchy, hierarchies are not just present within social structures they are present within all of nature. The etymological root of “anarchy” is without “archos” which is Greek for “ruler”.

Just because hierarchy has a shared root with “archos” does not anymore imply that anarchy MUST be about eliminating all hierarchy, that is a later interpration by communist sympathisers who push crap like “anarcho syndicalism” which is less plausible than ancap. Also you could further argue that capitalism actually doesn’t explicitly promote hierarchy, it does so only implicitly as the default state of nature. This is a product of game theory, if non hierarchical structures were more profitable and propagated more successfully then capitalism would form not hierarchies. This is why only capitalism is suited to anarchy because capitalism is inherently amoral, making no explicit judgments but simply allowing things to happen as they do.

[Anonymous No.9507431]

>>9507401
>you're like a particularly thick brick wall,
Thanks buddy, I like that.

[Anonymous No.9507442]

>>9506395

the blockstream cucks got bitter because they never actually collected enough coins personally to truly make it. As the price increased so did their bitterness so they went all out to sell out. They never mined they just worked on the code so the sought financial reward where they could. This allowed bad actors to come in and subvert the system Satoshi created in order to generate value from it outside of the originally intended ways (speculation, mining).

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[Anonymous No.9507521]

>>9504622
look at the way he is holding his hands

[Anonymous No.9507524]

>>9507403
>0-conf is safe
Pick a lie, make it big, if you say it often enough...

[Anonymous No.9507530]

>>9507156

>EOS as a currency or store of value
>5% annual inflation

nope

[Anonymous No.9507550]

>>9507314

you used the example fuckboy not me

[Anonymous No.9507570]

>>9505038
Lmao
There's nothing wrong with hierarchy if it's voluntary.
Leftist anarchists want to use violence to abolish voluntary hierarchies.
They are the authoritarians.
Kill them all.

[Anonymous No.9507588]

>>9505038
anarchism is the abolition of the state.

[Anonymous No.9507590]

>>9507550
Right and its actually a really good example of the type of thing that could be made into a graph like that, the curve would be radically different from that of the LN though (with high drop-off from removal of major roads like route 66)

[Anonymous No.9507622]

>>9507588
Anarcho communists are compulsive liars.

They LOVE the state, look at Catalonia during the Spanish civil war.

[Anonymous No.9507658]

>>9507524

Core would know about that...

[Anonymous No.9507685]

>>9507658
>no argument
>follows shill rule 1: accuse target of perpetrating what you yourself are doing.
Next

[Anonymous No.9507722]

>>9507685

Why argue when you had no arguement to what I originally said? I thought you just wanted to trade insults like a typical core minion...

[Anonymous No.9507751]

>>9507722
When did I insult you?

[Anonymous No.9507753]

>>9507401
>>9507401
young earth creationist have actual empirical evidence to prove thier beliefs. Evolutionist and Big Bang theorist have only theories that are not supported by empirical evidence. I agree with your BCH remarks, but dive into a little more research on creationist.

[Anonymous No.9507850]

>>9507751

called me a shill, made alusions to my post being like nazi propaganda

[Anonymous No.9507990]

>>9507850
I didn't call you a shill,I said you follow one of the common shill rules. As for the quote, its a good quote, doesn't matter the context.

[Anonymous No.9508015]

You know bitch cash is a shill when it drops by 0.5% every 15 minutes.

[Anonymous No.9508053]

>>9507850
See, it's no great virtue to be offended it shows paranoia, low self-esteem and lack of character.

[Anonymous No.9508103]

Bitcoin Cash will destroy Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.9508369]

>>9506013

Their killing themselves.
ETH isn't the solution, but it's a good choice desu,
NANO will be the coin to save crypto.

[Anonymous No.9508682]

>>9508053
Hey anon. Thank you for the arguments in this thread.
I had to Google quite few things (for both sides) because I'm new to crypto, but your arguments make sense, where the pro BCH arguments are shallow af.
Anyone, I'm not passionate about either of the coins so for me it's important to actually understand what bother sides are saying and I'm not emotionally invested so it's easy for me to see who is right.
Bch community reminds me a little of XBY community in this thread.
Except for 1 anon, none of you actually had any real arguments.
Whatever you think about your coins, know that to a newbie like me, bch just looks scammy after this post.
Work on your arguments maybe?

[Anonymous No.9508702]

>>9506814
>Liquid sidechain
>On October 12, 2015, Blockstream announced the release of its Liquid sidechain which could allow for the transfer of assets between the sidechain and the main blockchain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockstream#Liquid_sidechain
you can find that on wikipedia.... fucking retard

[Anonymous No.9508742]

>>9506814
and also pajeet, a quick english lesson for you, the word AND signifies a difference between Lightning Network and something new, sidechains. you are such a fucking idiot i wish i could have replied sooner. too bad you're probably eating curry now, or shitting on a street.

[Anonymous No.9508756]

>>9508742

[Anonymous No.9508781]

>>9505038
Yikes

[Anonymous No.9508898]

>>9508702
>>9508742
>>9508756
You didn't reply sooner because you were editing Wikipedia like the puppet that you are.

I thought some of your boys were arguing they weren't side chains, but 2nd layers. Which one is it?

The depressing factor is that they are to be sold to enterprises.

Your tone conveys that my points are valid and you are throwing a tantrum because you bought at 20k.

Or, is that you, Samson?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSbPz4g9rZQ

[Anonymous No.9508934]

>>9504622
Fuckin' awesome.

[Anonymous No.9509004]

>>9508898
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH HOLY FUCKING SHIT
the level of delusion is fucking phenomenal, you think i spent ~3hrs editing a fucking wikipedia page to disprove you? are you fucking kidding me!!!???
go to this fucking webpage
https://blockstream.com/technology/
read it - and i mean read it for real, not just want you want to read, and then fucking tell me that you still believe the pure torrent of stinking shit flowing from your mouth. Lightning Network is not a "BLOCKSTREAM EXCLUSIVE" thing, on the other hand Liquid side chain is.

and this;
https://blockstream.com/2015/10/12/introducing-liquid.html
hopefully this is the final proof you need to understand Liquid is not a new technology. now GTFO and never EVER post on my goddamn board again.

also if you wanna be a big boy about when you bought, lets hear when you bought faggot? i've been in this fucking shit since early 2013

[Anonymous No.9509066]

>>9508898
also dickhead you don't even understand how wikipedia works, do you? because if you had of, you would have simply clicked "view history" and seen the changes made to the page. fucking hell...