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Anons help me

Had a massive debate with a few people today about taxes. they thought taxes weren't high enough and they'd happily pay more.

Another said he didn't mind if a wasteman next door to him bummed off welfare. Their argument was higher taxes = better wealth distribution

Y

P.S. im from the UK

>> No.9363927

>>9363906
>UK

why do you even argue with the braindead cucks

>> No.9363929

Some people think you have to bribe the lowest dregs in society (or ppl down on their luck) with free money or else they'll start killing people indiscriminately moreso than they already do.

>> No.9363942

Why would you want to distribute your wealth, it's understandable if my taxes go for building infrastucture and free healthcare etc but why the fuck would some random bum or nigger deserve someone else's money?

>> No.9363948

>>9363906
Holy FUCK my dick

Also your friends are brainwashed leftists. Remind them they’re slaving away so other people can sit on their asses and become obese burdens on the state. If welfare actually solved poverty, you’d think after all these decades we’d have less, not more.

>> No.9363962

>>9363906
>i don't mind paying higher taxes
>no, I'm not gonna give out my extra money to charity right now, I need to be forced to do it

>> No.9364015

>>9363906
convert to Islam and end them ffs

>> No.9364038

"but being a white male youre privileged" (he was also a white male)

told him to go start a nonprofit with his skills and education

>> No.9364081

Taxing an income makes it less desirable to obtain that income. Subsidising a state of life makes it more desirable to take that life.
Taxing the most successful and giving to the least successful is the most surefire way to degeneracy.
At one hundred percent taxation at all brackets, there becomes no incentive difference between being a hospital director and surgeon, and being a part time worker at McDonalds. Do they wish to see such a society?

Taxing profits makes investments less desirable and thereby makes consumption more desirable. Society and prosperity only come to be through investments - investments separate man from brute. By making investments less desirable, there will be a greater amount of poor people in the future.

The people who bring the most to the productive table, measured mostly in the terms of the desires of the mass consumer, are the ones who receive the highest paycheck - even if you do not understand what it is they do.

Wealth inequality is not necessarily bad, because people are not equal. The best society would allocate resources to the extent that people are considered valuable to society by their fellow valuable men. This is, for some part, an ethical idea which people of the U.K. will never again understand.

Public spending on "free" things suffers from the fatal flaw of being uneconomisable. In choosing between different types of teachers, different types of medicines, different types of training, different building structures, the state is blind when it gives them all out for free. This means that it will end up using resources valued by others in a way that could've been done by consuming less valued resources.

The state is corrupt. Most of its moneys go to bureaucracies that must form seeing as there is no profit incentive in nationalised industries.

Frankly, Anon, I'd just say that you get new friends.
The U.K. is a doomed country - I live here. People here have worse political opinions than anywhere else on the globe.

>> No.9364097

>>9363906
Socialist Indoctrination by the media and educational system

>> No.9364120

>>9363906
>thought taxes weren't high enough and they'd happily pay more.
I bet they'd decline to donate to the state, saying that the rich should pay more too.
By this, they'd mean that they'd take a 1% tax rise on their £4,000 taxable income, if people with a taxable income of over £100,000 got a 10% tax rise.
Astounding.

>> No.9364172

>>9364081
bloody cucks there think people speak english because of them ole empire and they are above the world. seriously.

t. i used to live there

>> No.9364226

odd how nice people can have such a wrong view..

think their hearts are in the right place but have zero knowledge of economics. wanted to lose my shit and slap them all over

my feathers got seriously ruffled after this.. thanks anons you've calmed me down

>> No.9364258

>>9363906
modern tax debate is literally bucket of crabs jealousy in the most transparent sense

>> No.9364385

>>9364081
Well said.

The UK is a shithole prison state and will only get worse. Smart ones leave to the US or Australia.

>> No.9364388

>>9363929
This is kinda true though.
If the plebs can't afford to access McDonalds or Pornhub who knows what they'll do?

>> No.9364500
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9364500

Is it a coincidence that people who think like this tend to be lower earners?

I really hope Corbynism doesn't spread much more.

>> No.9364525

If you just substantially curbed the gibs, income tax wouldn't be so high.

It's not so much that these leftests feel badly for their countrymen. They actually get a rush from enforcing their views on everyone else. It's neverending. Once they raised income tax, they will just make new taxes or increase other existing ones like sales tax.

>> No.9364535

>>9364388
They will start businesses and become educated. They will have to kill off the lowest end niggers. There is no reason to give people more money. Throwing money at a problem doesn't solve anything. They just ask for more money.

>> No.9364569

>>9364500
A lot of them are insulated from their calls to higher taxation. Either they are from wealthy families and don't really need to work or like you mentioned get paid low so they won't get taxed much anyway.

>> No.9364579

>>9364535
The trick is to only give them enough to prevent a chimpout and no more.

>> No.9364582

Don't argue with statist trash
T. UK paki