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/smg/ - Stock Market General The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 13:57:02 No.9210139 [Reply] [Original]

Fed Shitpost Edition

>where's the hedge fund?
A resident tripfag, obergruppenfuhrer (Comfy), requested that it be excluded until he gets the next version up and running. Will refund those involved. Stay tuned!

Popular brokers for stock trading:
Robinhood
>commission free and no minimum to open
http://www.robinhood.com

> How is it free?
Robinhood earns revenue by collecting interest on cash/securities and fees from their Robinhood Gold service

> It's been X days, why isn't my account verified yet?
Not being approved in 3 days seems to be the new norm. Nevertheless, call/email their support if you've been waiting more than that.

> When is it coming to my country?
The only "plans" are on an Australian and Chinese beta. Neither of which has gained much traction.

Interactive Brokers
>$1 commission per 100 shares. $10k minimum to open, $3k if 25 or under. Lowest margin interest. Free API access
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TD Ameritade
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Degiro (Cheap broker for Europeans)
http://www.degiro.eu

Free in depth charts:
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Premarket Movers:
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Earnings Report Calendar:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com/

Pump and Dump Advertising:
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S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

Basic rundown on Options:
[YouTube] Option Basics Part I (embed)
[YouTube] Option Basics Part II (embed)

FED shitposting schedule
https://www.investing.com/economic-calendar/

previous thread >>9199420

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 13:58:06 No.9210154 Short SPY?

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 13:58:22 No.9210156 >>9210139 Wish I had time to make a shitty photoshop of the fed in the mortar pit

>>	GovernmentCheese !Co.gqwdKwo Wed, May 2, 2018 13:58:33 No.9210161 File: 189 KB, 200x207, ef1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Like i said last night BEARS BTFO

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 13:58:43 No.9210164 FED DONT FAIL ME NOW

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 13:59:31 No.9210173 Keep an eye on $IFON lads

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 13:59:33 No.9210175 HERE WE GO.....

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:00:46 No.9210190 I dont evne know what the market wants to hear BUT EVERYTHING IS GOING UP

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:01:07 No.9210194 BUY BUY BUY

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:02:06 No.9210210 File: 34 KB, 589x274, V26ZH7m[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I DONT KNOW WHAT ANY OF THIS MEANS

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:02:24 No.9210219 File: 231 KB, 2048x1285, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] RATES UNCHANGED $$$ CHEAP MONEY $$$ BUY NIGGERS BUY

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:02:55 No.9210225 File: 211 KB, 730x783, 1514219162774.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:05:29 No.9210258 I've spent more time on ST fudding SNAP than I have spent on here, i'm ashamed of myself.

>>	GovernmentCheese !Co.gqwdKwo Wed, May 2, 2018 14:07:09 No.9210286 ABIL

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:08:42 No.9210306 >>9210286 STOP CHASING LOW FLOAT RUNNERS YOURE GONNA GET YOUR ASS BURNED JUST BUY TWTR

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:09:15 No.9210313 Okay what the fuck on my TD ameritrade watch lists its now showing invalid symbols for things like google Facebook intel and other stuff

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:09:29 No.9210316 File: 83 KB, 1459x651, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9210286 Which one are they going to pump next? Let's get in early

>>	GovernmentCheese !Co.gqwdKwo Wed, May 2, 2018 14:09:57 No.9210322 >>9210286 i cant the fomo is real I need a cash account so i dont trade to much

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 14:14:06 No.9210379 >banks are dumping

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:14:28 No.9210383 BASED FEDERAL RESERVE

>>	teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 14:16:06 No.9210411 >>9210322 lemme tell you what. you can definitely overtrade in a cash account. i just fucking did

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:16:20 No.9210418 No rate hike was already priced in though.... They are still going up as planned in June. It was basically a nothingburger. The big shit will be trade in China.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:17:18 No.9210435 File: 29 KB, 405x379, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9210383 >Praising the fed for blatantly manipulating the economy for the past 104 years Good goy.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:18:18 No.9210455 OH GOD WE'RE DUMPING

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:18:42 No.9210461 >>9210435 you mean the century where the American economy became the dominant force in the world? yeah we praising them

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:19:28 No.9210478 AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:20:11 No.9210483 >>9210435 >buying and selling equities >manipulating the economy lad ...

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:21:41 No.9210503 Anyone here shorting Sprint before earnings? Seems like a sure bet.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:21:50 No.9210508 >>9210435 yeah let me take a look at the past 104 years oh right it's America becoming the sole global hyperpower and the richest country in the world's entire history

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:21:52 No.9210509 I am wanting to short FIT, but I feel that a bad ER is already expected, and the google news may be enough to keep it stable

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:22:14 No.9210513

>>9210461
>>9210508
US was already #1 before WW1. Only reason it's so far ahead is because every European country got bombed to shit in WW2.

American economical growth is also disproportional, mostly benefiting """them""" since 1980.

>>9210483
>implying changing interest rates have no effect on the economy whatsoever

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:23:08 No.9210526 >>9210483 Hes not wrong about the Fed, this last resession never even had a chance to play out thanks to funny money printing and rate decreases. Now we're in a corner with one of the largest bubbles.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:23:09 No.9210527 File: 114 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20180502-142223.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9210509 wish me luck!

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:24:36 No.9210543 File: 2.55 MB, 480x204, giphy (11).gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] "what about the fed?" "Feds dead baby"

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:25:41 No.9210558 >>9210513 >>9210526 >loaning out money at a rate decided by yourself >manipulating the economy lad ...

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:25:41 No.9210559 >>9210509 The google thing isn't even a sure bet, they are going to "brainstorm" ideas, that is literally it. Google doesn't want anything to do with FIT in any real capacity.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:25:51 No.9210562 >>9210509 Decent bet, FITshit could be delisted in 3 years, or end up being a boring company in a 50 cent channel forever, can't really see a new fitness appliance craze ever again.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:26:13 No.9210565 >>9210513 >"oh actually never mind that 104 years thing, the first 70 of them were super great" and man if you haven't made money since 1980, it's on you, don't get your stink of failure on me

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:26:54 No.9210575 >>9210562 Especially because Apple can do anything they can do but better. The only people propping this company up are the obsessed fanboys.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:28:58 No.9210603 File: 279 KB, 1920x1080, actualretards.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] kek!

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:29:51 No.9210615

Someone needs to help me not buy SPOT puts to what seems to be the most obvious pump and dump in a large stock in years.

>5B in revenue
>up 35 bucks in a month
>valued = or > Facebook
>Already predicted to operate at a loss
>constantly going to be at battle with record labels and artists
>Apple Music is catching up on its shit

Either that or its going to be an obnoxious Tesla like stock that goes up no matter what and we see SPOT hit 250 next year.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:30:24 No.9210626 >>9210603 honestly it might be kind of oversold right now, since that post-earnings crash anyway but I'm not sticking my dick in that blender

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:31:53 No.9210653 >rates go up >HURR banks cant loan as much now because of reduced borrow demand! >rates go down >HURR banks cant make as much profit from their loans now banks cant fucking win

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:32:17 No.9210662 >>9210615 earnings report today, here's your chance to #yolo

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:32:29 No.9210667 >>9210626 The only way I see snapchat working out is if somebody buys them out. The management for SNAP are complete fucking idiots.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:32:53 No.9210671 Do you guys think shorting USD again is a good idea ? Seems like the USD bullrun was the classical "buy the rumours sell the FED shitpost" meme

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:33:21 No.9210679 >>9210671 yes buy the yen

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:33:45 No.9210687 FIT starting to plunge toward power hour, a good sign for shorts.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:34:53 No.9210701 >>9210679 MIND BLOWN I N D B L O W N That is the pair I am looking at. Any fundamental on that ? (apart from the obvious inflation thesis)

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:35:17 No.9210712 File: 29 KB, 399x385, 1512240787963.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >he fell for the bear market meme

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:37:10 No.9210746 >>9210701 not really peace in korea i guess?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:38:58 No.9210764 >>9210615 I can't afford these puts

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:39:25 No.9210771 >>9210746 I agree on the USD weakness But I think I will wait a longer-term trend confirmation

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:40:57 No.9210798 >>9210764 Yeah me neither, at least not willing to take the risk. Buying a year put on SPOT is fucking free money.

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:43:03 No.9210834

>>9210615
it's unironically the music version of Netflix

since Apple Music was released, Spotify has gained more users than Apple has

I'm not buying it now because this earnings season has been super fucky but if it beats and crashes I'm getting in after

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:44:19 No.9210852 >>9210834 This earnings season seems like as soon as earnings are announced, regardless of the numbers, the stock plummets.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:45:12 No.9210861 >>9210852 don't worry, that's gonna stop now that I started buying puts

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:46:00 No.9210872 >>9210861 Normally I would expect the bog treatment, but there are too many shit earnings coming up. Sprint and Fitbit being prime examples.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:46:29 No.9210878 File: 764 KB, 651x642, rikor.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is TAP a buy at this dip? Also, long oil, 20 year bond inverse, and dollar.

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Wed, May 2, 2018 14:47:49 No.9210895 I CAN'T PANIC SELL MY SNAP CALLS BECAUSE OF PDT FUCK YOU FEDS

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:48:15 No.9210905 >>9210878 >Also, long oil, 20 year bond inverse, and dollar. >dollar You think this USD selloff is fake ?

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:49:49 No.9210929

>>9210615
>valued = or > Facebook

Stock price =/= company value, dipshit. If that was the case, Priceline.com (BKNG) would be more valuable than Amazon or Google. Does that sound right to you? It shouldn't.

Market cap (Share Price x # of total shares) is the true valuation of a company on the market. Read up more.

>>	GovernmentCheese !Co.gqwdKwo Wed, May 2, 2018 14:50:34 No.9210937 lets not rule out IMTE just yet shorts may be squeezed

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:51:11 No.9210945
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>>9210895
After you lose all your money on SNAP calls you should buy calls on DWT to follow your crazy options collapse. But seriously Comfy, this isn't the way to comped sushi...

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:56:12 No.9211037 >>9210937 >Average price paid $23.79 Dear god!

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:56:26 No.9211042 File: 30 KB, 475x357, brien.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9210905 >>9210905 >>9210905 I think if interest rates are bound to go up and up, the dollar will get stronger and stronger.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:56:27 No.9211043 >>9210872 If my Fitbit puts pay out, I'm gonna take every penny and use them to buy GoPro puts

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 14:58:30 No.9211069 >>9211043 what happens when the gopro puts pay out?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:01:48 No.9211131 FUCK THIS WHOLE BOG MARKET

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 15:01:49 No.9211132 >>9211037 kek robinhood reddit about to get wojaks out

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:02:53 No.9211156 >>9211043 Things are looking good so far >>9211069 He can contemplate that with a long ride in his lambo.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:04:37 No.9211183 File: 28 KB, 741x363, Screen Shot 2018-05-02 at 2.02.37 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211037 >this cant be real >pic related holy fuck dude lol

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:04:55 No.9211190 File: 3.80 MB, 1692x1167, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211131 WHEEEEEE!

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:05:37 No.9211195 Wew lads what a ride today, Uso 14.5 call for July 20 Auy call for 2.5 in Oct. And meme stocks doing good. Comfy a.f.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:06:06 No.9211208 >>9211183 Are RH users actually this retarded? I say this as a RH user myself. This is staggering stupidity on a mass scale.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:06:45 No.9211225 >>9211183 >NINETY PERCENT OF TRADERS LOSE MONEY ON THE MARKET >Ninety percent of people are retarded

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:07:20 No.9211237 >>9210139 Are there any stock market discords?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:07:21 No.9211238 >>9211208 dont pretend you didnt want to chase it

>>	GovernmentCheese !Co.gqwdKwo Wed, May 2, 2018 15:07:44 No.9211241 >>9211208 RH users are stupid as fuck yes the majority of them are like those seagulls from finding nemo

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:07:50 No.9211243 >>9211208 Yes peasanthood traders are this retarded, me included

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:08:21 No.9211253 >>9211225 To me it sounds like if 90% of traders would just take 5 seconds to review the 52 week high/low and that the market cap is above mexico-tier, they wouldnt be so shitty at making money.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:08:48 No.9211265 File: 922 KB, 673x809, daxepisode.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] TFW you miss out on something like imte again, why cant i ever hold something like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:09:47 No.9211277 >>9211265 That is the wrong question to ask. You should be asking "Why did no one hold this in the first place?"

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:09:54 No.9211282 File: 128 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20180502-150613.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Convince me NOT to buy $JNJ calls since they've hit a support price

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:11:01 No.9211305 >>9211282 >hit a support price >support supported by what? your hopes and dreams? >TFW you realize you might be in the 10% and its just common fucking sense the whole way there

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:11:35 No.9211311 File: 33 KB, 633x758, 1524595006105.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >That Fed bait The market is done just let it go

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:12:02 No.9211319 >>9210139 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojtek_(bear) ?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:15:03 No.9211363 File: 408 KB, 354x806, toe.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211277 It makes me feel stupid to think about it. I know its irrational. But still, it was just sitting there and we could have made a ton of money.

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Wed, May 2, 2018 15:15:46 No.9211376 File: 49 KB, 680x420, 1507511425798.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9210945 I just want to be like Eric :(

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:15:54 No.9211378 File: 129 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20180502-151508.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211305 More like within the past 3 months it refused to drop any further past this price point

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:16:58 No.9211392 >>9211378 >It refused Assigning human traits to market implements is a fast path to the soup kitchen. Quantify your assertions using facts, not emotions.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:18:32 No.9211414 File: 66 KB, 500x549, 1524949398192.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211183 You underestimate how stupid and smug RH plebbitors are >>9211376 We all do desu

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:20:19 No.9211447

>>9211392
We try to quantify trends using algorithms, but the human interpretation of trends is also valid. I don't see why you can look at the peaks and troughs and tell me there's no reversal trend there. I'm doubting it'll drop any further bar an economic crash or scandal

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:20:54 No.9211452 >>9211069 I'm gonna buy some nice liquor and maybe DEO stock while I'm at it

>>	GovernmentCheese !Co.gqwdKwo Wed, May 2, 2018 15:21:15 No.9211459 IMTE slowly creeping on up

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Wed, May 2, 2018 15:21:55 No.9211476 File: 194 KB, 717x717, 1507511242447.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211414 >tfw your brother will never give you millions of dollars before getting a high score Why even live?

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:22:37 No.9211485

>>9211414
Apparently so. I have too much faith in other people. RH and plebbit exclusive from each other seem ok, but something really bad happens when you combine the user bases. It's probably due to the fact that reddit is overrun with lefties and other societal generates who feel entitled to various outcomes, so they assume that stock market wins will just be handed to them. The extreme competitive nature and automagic arbitrage feature of our markets is likely beyond their comprehension or even awareness.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:24:23 No.9211524 File: 28 KB, 742x387, 1494357174899.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >robinhood """investors""" snapchat purchases

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:24:53 No.9211533 >>9211447 I am 100% on board with human interpretation of quantified data, but when you look at a 5 day chart and go "yep that shape right there means this is about to happen", you have absolutely no basis in reality.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:25:16 No.9211538 >>9210712 Whoops

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 15:25:35 No.9211541 >>9211459 good God man you didn't buy it did you? >>9211524 I'm becoming more and more convinced that Robinhood was a mistake. Elitism is a real and natural

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:27:00 No.9211560 >>9211208 >>9211485 >>>/r/iamverysmart

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:27:22 No.9211565 >>9211541 Robinhood's existence and popularity indicates that we are in a securities bubble but what the fuck else am I gonna do, pump and dump Bitcoin Candy or whatever the kids these days are doing?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:27:32 No.9211567 >>9211541 >TFW you are considering establishing a monoshare meme position in IMTE just to keep an eye on the fallout.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:27:52 No.9211571 File: 79 KB, 800x440, bearmortar.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9210139

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:28:09 No.9211575 File: 144 KB, 1280x720, 1521236461549.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211560 DELET THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:28:24 No.9211580 >>9211567 spoiler alert: SEC halt, everyone loses played that one already with LFIN

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:29:08 No.9211591

>>9211560
Hey guys! I found one of em! Can we do an AMA? I'll start

>I am curious how it feels to get absolutely BTFO by a financial market and to not understand why. Can you explain your emotional state and how it has been afflicted by recent trades?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:30:08 No.9211601 >>9211541 For me, it was I'm down 30% on RH and up 40% on crypto My losses on RH JUSTed me overall

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:30:10 No.9211603 >>9211580 Fucking use the spoiler tag next time

>>	GovernmentCheese !Co.gqwdKwo Wed, May 2, 2018 15:30:46 No.9211615 >>9211541 no PH seems flat Ill wait till tomorrow to see whats hot low floats are on fire for sure

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:31:56 No.9211631 >>9211541 >I'm becoming more and more convinced that Robinhood was a mistake. Taking other idiots money is never a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:32:10 No.9211637 File: 31 KB, 677x413, buy or die SQ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] alright lads SQ has earnings after hours today buy or die?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:33:00 No.9211649 File: 1.35 MB, 659x790, 1524717059876.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211637 short it!

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 15:34:32 No.9211673 >>9211571 y tho? here is your (you) >>9211631 fair point. Anyway to check the most bought on Robinhood so we can profit off dumbs?

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Wed, May 2, 2018 15:34:33 No.9211675 >>9211637 odds short even long

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:34:51 No.9211683 >>9211637 V and MA both beat, so maybe?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:35:09 No.9211690 >>9211637 I've been considering opening a position in SQ. They have excellent market penetration and their solutions are very well executed. That said, I just play long-term buy+hold growth/value games, so my opinion may not be useful.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:39:39 No.9211752 my Fitbit puts are up 44% and they haven't even released earnings yet. should I just take profit now?

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:39:42 No.9211753

>>9211673
Their API is very liberal in terms of how much shit you can extract in an automated fashion. I've actually been working on a solution to capture stuff exactly like this (# of RH bag holders, average RH bag price, etc) and using those numbers to drive an inverse strategy (as RH users will do the most incorrect thing possible at all times).

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:40:48 No.9211769 >>9211683 the drop in the last hour has be worried to buy in

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Wed, May 2, 2018 15:41:05 No.9211774 File: 28 KB, 943x457, fakmylife.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pic related shows my rise and failure. Rise is UVXY Fall is QD The Bogs are cruel masters

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:41:54 No.9211789 >>9211752 Nothing wrong with taking profits, i'm keeping iron hands for earnings though.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:41:56 No.9211790 >>9211683 The entire payments industry is doing well at the moment, so I think you should see similar outcome across the board.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:42:14 No.9211797 File: 14 KB, 315x273, 1506841712921.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] At what point is Micron a buy? people around here were calling 54 a great buy in price.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:43:44 No.9211815 >>9211797 Do the opposite of what this tripfag-infested shithole says. You will be a richer man.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:44:55 No.9211834 File: 66 KB, 800x600, Quark-with-Dabo-girls[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211797 you'd be better off taking a spin at the Dabo table friend

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:45:25 No.9211840

>>9211797
Micron is never a good buy if you are playing long. Samsung has so hilariously outstripped the economic viability of other memory fabricators with their new megalithic fabs over in asia.
>https://www.anandtech.com/show/12498/samsung-preps-to-build-another-multibillion-dollar-memory-fab-near-pyeongtaek

Just one of those fuckers at full ramp can wafer start micron's entire manufacturing capacity. Now consider that samsung has a fuckload more fabs where that came from.

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:45:33 No.9211844
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>>9211815
>Do the opposite of what this tripfag-infested shithole says. You will be a richer man.
Buy SNAP
Buy IMTE (now)
Short BGFV
The opposite doesn't sound so good anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:46:06 No.9211849 >>9211815 Hes says while posting on the exact same pakistani orb carving usenet interface.

Canadian weed update 2 Wed, May 2, 2018 15:46:09 No.9211852

The Green Organic Dutchman (TGOD) debuted on the TSX this morning. Keeping a very close eye on this company in coming weeks. Volatility all over the place on day 1 trading (it went 3.60 to 4.25 now down to 3.95 and twitchy). Lots of hype with this company and i expect it will perform very well relative to the other big LPs in the spring/summer legalization bull run.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:46:38 No.9211864 Other earnings I'm Looking into: SFM (pre-market tomorrow) APRN (pre-market tomorrow) MRO (after hours)

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:46:52 No.9211870 >>9211864 which ones are you shorting?

>>	GovernmentCheese !Co.gqwdKwo Wed, May 2, 2018 15:47:27 No.9211878 >>9211815 yeah stfu

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:47:51 No.9211884 >>9211797 About treefiddy.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:48:02 No.9211888 >>9211870 Possibly APRN still not sure though

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 15:48:07 No.9211889 >>9211753 how can I access their API? I'm very interested in doing what you are describing.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:48:19 No.9211894 >>9211878 this also. I love the trip fags, they are like friends that I never had.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:48:38 No.9211903 File: 123 KB, 720x1280, Screenshot_20180502-124749.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:49:03 No.9211913 File: 245 KB, 1063x1063, 1515392362167.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to buy Lionsgate but it keeps dropping

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:50:01 No.9211927 >>9211864 Im currently hold MRO

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:50:19 No.9211932

>>9211889
Open up chrome dev tools or whatever autismal http stack sniffer you prefer and just watch the JSON API magic as you F5 robinhood.com. Its a very simple and straightforward REST API and a lot of fundamentals endpoints do not require authentication. Here ill give you a starting point:

>https://api.robinhood.com/fundamentals/AMD/
>https://api.robinhood.com/quotes/historicals/AMD/?symbol=BBVA&bounds=regular&span=year&interval=day

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:50:24 No.9211934 File: 323 KB, 800x533, north-korea-kim-jong-un.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211840 Tfw NK is buddying up to sabotage the SK tech industry from the inside.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:51:34 No.9211950 >>9211797 Wait til after they buy out $NLST

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 15:51:56 No.9211957 File: 119 KB, 573x430, baby pepe bear.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211894 :)

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 15:52:58 No.9211974 >>9211932 thanks based-tech anon

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 15:54:19 No.9211994 File: 275 KB, 1920x1080, 2018-05-02 (1).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] also I hope you anons complaining about your bank puts held strong

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:55:40 No.9212020 File: 960 KB, 318x255, 1523472289489.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] FIT is red, here we go goys.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:56:06 No.9212024 >buying 33% in SQ >buying 17% in MRO wish me luck m8s

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:56:51 No.9212031 File: 95 KB, 1229x654, usdjpy_gap_up.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9210679 >>9210746 >>9211042 dat fucking USDJPY gap up

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:57:19 No.9212039 why did IMTE skyrocket

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:57:31 No.9212042 >>9212024 you might as well just take all your money to the casino.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:58:17 No.9212057 who here /nervous for spot/

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 15:58:44 No.9212065 >>9212039 pump & dump.. only 2.5M float

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:58:48 No.9212068 Wanted to get in some puts for APRN but it looks like i'm not going to get anyone to sell them to me in time.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 15:59:25 No.9212076 >>9212031 whoops

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:00:15 No.9212087 HERE WE GO LADS EARNINGS TIME

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:00:23 No.9212090 literally no reason for this insane selloff this is retarded tomorrow we will gap up at open easy

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:00:36 No.9212092 >>9212076 I did nothing I always wait for a long-term trend confirmation

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:00:43 No.9212097 closed up 2% on USO today feels comfy man

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:01:56 No.9212114 >>9212097 up 5.5% after AAPL and CRC stock jumps

>>	GovernmentCheese !Co.gqwdKwo Wed, May 2, 2018 16:02:27 No.9212120 >>9212039 low float pump

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:04:19 No.9212145 >>9211852 Also CRON got hammered over the last two days and is due for a bounce.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:07:20 No.9212180 Jesus, even ST's FIT page is fairly pessimistic, that is shocking.

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Wed, May 2, 2018 16:07:24 No.9212184 >>9211894 :)))))))))))))))))) <3<3<3

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:11:30 No.9212241 who /BTE/ here? earnings tomorrow, iran sanctions at 12th, trans mountain pipeline end of month(?) its going to 15

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:11:51 No.9212248 SQ fell off a cliff...

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:12:31 No.9212254 Ah shit FIT beat earnings.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:13:21 No.9212270 File: 90 KB, 1568x915, bte.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9212241 been telling them for 2 weeks. choo choo oil over 50

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Wed, May 2, 2018 16:13:26 No.9212273 >>9212248 Called it >>9211675

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:13:52 No.9212281 >>9212180 LONG FIT SIGNAL

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:13:57 No.9212282 >>9212254 When your estimate is already in the shitter its hard to not beat.

>>	GovernmentCheese !Co.gqwdKwo Wed, May 2, 2018 16:14:56 No.9212299 S easy scalp tomorrow maybe http://pdf.reuters.com/htmlnews/htmlnews.asp?i=43059c3bf0e37541&u=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20180502:nPn3Jrr68a

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:15:34 No.9212305 TSLA cannot make up ita mind, holy shit this chart, lol

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:15:46 No.9212308 >>9212281 kek no kidding >>9212282 Wouldn't be surprised if this pops to $6.50 after this, although as soon as james park opens his mouth it will probably plummet.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:16:54 No.9212323 File: 416 KB, 844x499, Obama's Legacy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211840 It's just a matter of timing now. Good luck trying to time when "peak memory" supply rolls around.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:16:57 No.9212327 File: 202 KB, 1080x1307, Screenshot_20180502-131612_thinkorswim.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9212305 Sorry forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:18:20 No.9212341 File: 18 KB, 236x209, 1496904580232.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I called this SQ release and price drop. Note the slipping margins here, taken from their shareholder letter. >>9196638

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:18:21 No.9212343 >>9212254 it's gonna crash anyway, like half the earnings have the past couple weeks

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:20:32 No.9212365 SPOT absolutely blasted Thank god I move my strikes to 145/150 instead of making an iron fly at 170.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:21:46 No.9212384 File: 150 KB, 1920x1080, womenwereamistake.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is why women shouldn't be able to trade. She also completely missed my point and tried to make me look like the retard.

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Wed, May 2, 2018 16:22:53 No.9212395 File: 68 KB, 570x700, fuckyou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9211894

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Wed, May 2, 2018 16:23:49 No.9212412 >>9212384 Kek

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:25:37 No.9212435 File: 500 KB, 500x200, 1519493537639.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9212395 Love ya baggie, take it easy on the uppers this week.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:27:05 No.9212455 >>9212299 I just opened a position today

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:29:09 No.9212486 >>9212299 Shit looks like i'm going to get burned on my puts, at least they were dirt cheap.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:30:12 No.9212498 >>9212365 Oh no I might be fucked now

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:30:56 No.9212505 Heading over to SPOT ST page to trigger some hipsters who got burned.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:31:29 No.9212516 TSLA literally just saved the stock market

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:33:08 No.9212544 >>9212516 They missed earnings though.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:34:03 No.9212552 >>9212505 Buy spot at IPO, never ever make money again. The absolute state of this tech market

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:34:53 No.9212567 >>9212544 doesn't matter, Enron Musk wins anyway

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:35:24 No.9212573 >>9212516 TSLA isnt even at its intraday high, what are you smoking. They lost more money this quarter than the equivalent quarter last year.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:36:34 No.9212586 >>9212573 I am also confused, anon. TSLA doing nothing but running around putting fires out at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:37:00 No.9212590 this shit is rigged

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:37:02 No.9212591 File: 183 KB, 800x371, 1518894045929.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9212567 good point, Elon is jesus to the basedboy community.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:37:45 No.9212604 >>9212591 >s Market is confused right now

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:38:05 No.9212608 >>9212591 wait a minute, basedboy basedboy basedboy basedboy

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:38:59 No.9212617 >>9212608 KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:40:01 No.9212630 File: 15 KB, 480x480, 1523466554258.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9212608 seriously 4chan.....

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:40:34 No.9212640 I love onions sauce with my rice

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:45:31 No.9212706 >>9212608 gotta stock up on basedbean futures desu

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:46:39 No.9212721 >>9212706 ticker is S O Y B, that's SOYB (don't actually buy this)

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:47:26 No.9212729 >>9212341 no one on /smg/ is going to praise my tremendous predictive power and business acumen? god, I guess its time to start tripfaging, you retards seem to appreciate them

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:48:48 No.9212751 >>9212729 That also means we can just filter you

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:49:06 No.9212761 >>9212729 ya done good; I was gonna go long on SQ and got saved only because all my money was tied up in Fitbit puts and WWE stock and oil calls

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:51:18 No.9212800 Tell me it's going to be ok /smg/

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:52:10 No.9212815 >>9212800 I'll let you know tomorrow, I shorted S and FIT today, pretty sure I done goofed on S, FIT is still up in the air quite honestly.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:52:19 No.9212821 >>9212751 >filtering anything on this board What is the point? This is one of the the last bastions of free thought. You would be better off in a reddit safe space.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:52:40 No.9212830 File: 86 KB, 800x445, mike_tyson_uvxy_ceo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9212800 You gonna be ok m8 Long UVXY

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Wed, May 2, 2018 16:53:17 No.9212841 >>9212800 Checked I bought calls on snap today. There's a 90% chance things are not going to be alright.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:53:17 No.9212842 File: 364 KB, 3200x3200, 1505777912606.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9212800 we're all gonna make it

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:53:51 No.9212850 >>9210139 wtf is national id

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:53:59 No.9212853 >>9212821 I would never filter anyone, not even coinfags. I was just pretending to be retarded.

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:55:41 No.9212880

>>9212841
I told you about the music streaming services bro. the labels own spotify's profits. if spotify becomes profitable, labels will just up their prices for the content

add that to how high spotify is valued at when compared to pandora (pandora literally has more US users than Spot, Apple, and Google music combined) and you've got a clear and obvious short case for spotify

>>	The Eternal Bear !yGpeLiYA4k Wed, May 2, 2018 16:56:14 No.9212886 >>9212853 "pretending" anon I have some bad news...

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Wed, May 2, 2018 16:58:03 No.9212924 >>9212880 ...but snapchat isn't a music streaming service?

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:58:36 No.9212938
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>>9212886
>pic related
>>9212880
Spotify is a fuckin joke from a business perspective. Half their current library was obtained via piracy and I can watch as items in my playlist are slowly ripped out by audits run by the record labels. It is just yet another delivery tool for the content barons now.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 16:59:10 No.9212946 >>9212886 kek >>9212924 Comfy seriously you have to bail on those calls man.

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Wed, May 2, 2018 17:01:41 No.9212987 >>9212946 I TRIED TO BAIL BUT PTD MADE ME HOLD THEM TILL CLOSE. Now I have to wake up at freaking 7:30 am to sell them because there's a 100% chance a limit order for tomorrow morning won't go through >:((

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 17:01:49 No.9212990 Wow, good thing I didnt straddle TSLA its flat for today. Maybe dump tomorrow

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 17:02:39 No.9213004 >>9212987 Sorry to hear that, but i'm glad you're not seeing it through to the end on those calls.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 17:03:17 No.9213021 >>9212924 oops :) but I also told you about snap too >>9194853

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Wed, May 2, 2018 17:03:54 No.9213032 File: 219 KB, 464x435, 1485919848165.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9213004 ....smg is telling me to sell... does that mean... I hold till expiry? >:) It's time to hold, my niggas

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 17:04:04 No.9213036

Regarding Canadian senate committee recommendations for amendments to bill C45 (legalization bill), the media have not done a good job clarifying the committee's position on some of the stuff recommended in the document. Media have, in fact, reported certain absurd calls for delay from the abo contingent without clarifying that the abo recommendations were majority rejected by the committee as a whole. Any talk you hear of "Canadian weed could be delayed one year" is baseless as majority rejected recommendations have ZERO weight on anything.

Committee's document:
https://sencanada.ca/content/sen/committee/421/LCJC/reports/LCJC_FinalReport_BillC-45_e.pdf

Skip to page 10 to see which recommendations were majority upheld and which were rejected. Anything that does not have majority support is pure hot air. It appears the only sticking point of legitimate concern is home cultivation. The senate can reject everything the committee recommended if they wish.

There should be no delays on account of this document.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 17:06:49 No.9213093 >>9212343 see it already is. nobody gives a fuck that they lost slightly less money than they planned to lose; they're still a dogshit company and we aren't in the ridiculous 2017 bull market anymore

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 17:09:08 No.9213131 >>9213093 The second Park started talking the stock dropped .20 kek

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 17:10:48 No.9213159
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>>9212706
Dump sóy beans

Risk of trade slow down with china export spat and lets be honest, the oil is horrible to cook with. Just use oil seed.

Pepper has been long since more fast food needed to reformulate to low salt.

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 17:13:47 No.9213210
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wew
that was fun
ended up trading myself a $500 hole, then bought 20 263 SPY puts expiring today for .02. rode it up and got 1000%. ended UP $500. shouldve held (though im glad i didnt, my poor heart cant take it) as those ended up ITM but IDGAF. red to green in 15 mins baby
>pic related, except i was short

ive just been running around outside like a lunatic. turns out its a beautiful day outside. cheers lads

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 17:16:41 No.9213264 >>9213210 >>9213210 damn dude, good call with the spy puts. what made you think puts were a good call

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 17:21:01 No.9213340 File: 384 KB, 808x805, FD0FCC5F-AFE8-41AA-AD3C-CDCAE7DE00EB.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >SQ

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Wed, May 2, 2018 17:23:59 No.9213397 File: 14 KB, 135x133, 1485917761007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Odds I hold snap calls tomorrow Evens I hold snap calls tomorrow

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 17:26:39 No.9213454 >>9213397 Well it broke its trend of a reverse etf today... I think its a harbringer of ill omen

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 17:37:50 No.9213645 >>9213340 I WANNA DIE

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 17:57:33 No.9213935 File: 94 KB, 670x641, 1501397071785.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >FIT I FUCKED UP

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 18:02:02 No.9214011 >>9213935 >beat, crashes anyway who am i kidding, just buy puts on everything with earnings coming up

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 18:03:05 No.9214034 Bear will leave its cave forever

>>	IllegalAlien !PpNzKhAKto Wed, May 2, 2018 18:15:11 No.9214272 File: 78 KB, 612x489, SLAVES OF THE TAPPE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >up 20% Today I hope you guys Bought KMT and SFS Before earnings.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 18:16:27 No.9214284 File: 39 KB, 400x388, 4CE5E92D-B68B-466A-B066-A8CD363178EB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9213645 >>9213935 FUCK THIS GAY MARKET REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 18:17:34 No.9214302 >>9214011 BGFV rolled through earnings without a scratch.

>>	IllegalAlien !PpNzKhAKto Wed, May 2, 2018 18:19:45 No.9214349 File: 126 KB, 1205x699, China.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any moment now.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 18:25:11 No.9214435 File: 284 KB, 439x367, 1449283162666.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw come here with advice and get laughed at by some bitter pozzed faggot >advice specific portfolio up 15% in about 3 weeks basically risk free

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 18:26:23 No.9214454

>>9213264
some anon told me something the other day. he said "trading is just all about taking the opposite when an event has been realized."

so the FED didnt do anything and everyone expected it to go up. (after i fucked up HARD) i waited for that pump to happen which was huge, and took the opposite stance when i saw it start to form a downtrend (lower hi). i was only gonna take it for a leg down, but i was down so far and thought i still had time, took profit at 1000% and ran away from my comp so i didnt FOMO back in (good thing too. if i held till nearer to the bell i couldve gotten 2000%. i definitely wouldve fucking chased it by being greedy)

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 18:27:14 No.9214467 >all these fags into SQ and SPOT shoulda gone ALPHAbet

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 18:31:43 No.9214541 File: 375 KB, 500x420, 0000ThumbsUp5.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9214454 >took profit at 1000%

>>	teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 18:32:44 No.9214555 File: 1.05 MB, 1024x800, pepe beyond the veil.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9214034 oh shit

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 18:56:03 No.9214951 Any predictions for Activision? Do you think I should sell before close tomorrow or roll the dice?

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 18:59:48 No.9215012

>>9214951
idk man
almost everything thats been beating has eventually given it back. might as well lock in some. or if youre not longterm on them, sell the stock and buy calls/puts or a straddle/strangle or something. then you can still play it but lock in profits AND have much less downside risk

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 19:24:31 No.9215413 >>9211265 Calm down Reginald, just avoid the transporter, OK?

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 19:32:10 No.9215514

>>9214951
Activision prints money, but investors and businessmen are spooked by EA. and I'd bet blizzard isnt pulling anything crazy new in terms of revnue. Earnings will be boring and stocks will tumble 2%.

Long term, Activision will continue to print money and will behave as a profitable yet growing large company.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 19:46:38 No.9215711 >>9214951 I predict it'll beat earnings and then crash anyway But I'm not going to play this because I'll be busy with GPRO

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 19:51:53 No.9215795 >>9215012 >>9215514 >>9215711 Thanks for your thoughts. What long play can I make on Korean peace besides Samsung(on RH platform)?

>>	The Eternal Bear !yGpeLiYA4k Wed, May 2, 2018 19:57:22 No.9215868 >>9215795 Figure out how to introduce rocket boy to ayy weed lmao and become the state sanctioned imperial weed dispensary

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 19:58:37 No.9215890 >>9215868 Smuggle weed into best Korea got it. Thanks

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 19:59:00 No.9215897

>>9215795
Well, Korea's been at peace for years now. I dont think they'll suddenly start being economically productive anything like that just because a treaty gets signed (if it does get signed). One question to ask yourself is 'what will (North) Koreans want that they dont have now'? Well, McDonalds for one. And they'll probably want copies of Windows, if Windows isnt considered a national security threat by the Norks. And maybe they'll want new cars. The point I'm trying to make is they'll want a bunch of relatively boring things that the rest of the world wants that wont affect the South Korean economy especially. The effect of an open North Korean market will be diluted throughout the whole world.

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 20:00:00 No.9215908

>>9215711
>I predict it'll beat earnings and then crash anyway
yea thats what i think too. i think selling stock and buying a strangle before the bell is the safest

>>9215795
well geopolitics is slow moving. so what id do (and might, now that you bring it up) is wait for the speculative unification rally to show signs of weakness and short it. people will sell when they realize itll be years and years before a unified korea happens even if everything is hunky dory.

ill try and find the ticker for the korean market ETFs. i think this might be a good play

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 20:01:07 No.9215926 >>9215897 kek i just heard kim literally requested, if they make peace, if he can have mcdonalds. norks are gonna love the dollar menu

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 20:11:06 No.9216054 >>9215795 Short all the big defense contractors last week, then buy the dip this week. (You already missed step 1). Except for Boeing. Don't touch Boeing, their commercial aircraft side gig is dragging them down. But LMT, NOC, RTN, GD, HII, and so on

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 20:14:45 No.9216115 File: 281 KB, 2065x786, Screenshot_20180502-171344_thinkorswim.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Elon I.....

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 20:16:27 No.9216158 >>9215795 >>9215868 >>9215897 so the MSCI worst korea ETF is >EWY aprox $70 a share options dont look very popping, but theres a good deal of open interest out 80 days. i might keep an eye on this one. short the peace rally

>>	IllegalAlien !PpNzKhAKto Wed, May 2, 2018 20:22:05 No.9216245 File: 271 KB, 650x574, 1504882393836.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9216115 BUT IT'S THE FUTURE

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 20:24:00 No.9216277 >>9216054 I was too busy market selling my PPA at 9:30 to follow step 1 lol.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 20:25:22 No.9216299 File: 103 KB, 1600x1600, E63D4872-D32B-461E-9048-A3D504B79505.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT ALL THESE COMPANIES ARE BEATING YET THEY DROP WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 20:28:23 No.9216345 >>9216299 >He forgot that the market already priced in earnings beat with the tax cut so now stocks will only go up if the earnings beat beats the expected earnings beat

>>	IllegalAlien !PpNzKhAKto Wed, May 2, 2018 20:28:52 No.9216355 >>9216299 they probably issuing lower earnings guidance.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 20:30:33 No.9216372 >>9216345 ALL THE TAX CUT GAINS WERE ALREADY ERASED THO

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 20:34:38 No.9216419 >>9216372 No, that was just the market pricing in fed shitposting in addition to the tax cuts :^)

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 20:40:36 No.9216514 >>9216115 Americans don't want to go Green.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 20:43:09 No.9216556 File: 136 KB, 245x406, canadian literature.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9216514 RED white and blue

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 20:56:56 No.9216770 >>9216299 This market is gay. I should've dumped whenever one of my positions went up 5% instead of watching them slowly bleed. BA was the gayest of all.

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 21:43:38 No.9217404

>>9216299
That's how tech bubble ended. When you bought calls on YHOO on earnings and lost money. .COM was great. At least it was exciting. This shit is fucking stupid shitty overpriced large caps with no moon potential. That's why it went on for so long. Retard tier market. Caught everyone with their pants down. Now people believe this garbage, and whoever ran the scam is selling. You can't underestimate the stupidity of american investing public.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 21:47:06 No.9217453 >>9216770 How the fuck does a retail investor gets excited about shit like BA? It's garbage tier industrial with government funding. All the growth is capped.

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 21:48:53 No.9217479

>>9217404
>tfw bearish since volpocolypse in feb
not gonna lie, i got squeezed a couple REALLY bad times, since weve been sideways for so long.

i think the verdicts in. ive been trying to get everyone to read irrational exuberance. it was a prophetic book back then, and its a prophetic book right now. reading through it, it sounds like hes talking about todays market, not the market in 2000

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 21:50:43 No.9217506

>>9217453
i think a lot of people got suckered into the war=bullish for defense sector

i almost did it too, but checked chart history. its not very tightly correlated at first. BA just makes overpriced, inefficient garbage though like you said. but its brand recognition, you know?

i went with really long USO calls for my war play

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 21:52:12 No.9217531 >>9217479 No, this is .com after lobotomy.

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 21:53:55 No.9217557

>>9217506
You buy BA when terrible things happen, because it will be around, sell when its all clear. Never buy this crap on the way up. It's a stupid cyclical large cap. There is no real growth. Probably lags inflation too. People will puke it out if some terrorist act with planes happens. Because, you know, nobody will ever fly.

>>	Big5Guy !JsYyJw4ORs Wed, May 2, 2018 21:58:12 No.9217620 File: 2.69 MB, 307x292, 1520282909114.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9214302 >BGFV rolled through earnings without a scratch.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 21:58:30 No.9217626 >SPY forming fat wedge What happens at the end? Are we going all the way up or all the way down?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 21:59:36 No.9217643 those bounces are getting weaker and weaker. 1929-tier crash when?

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 22:01:06 No.9217662

>>9217531
kek
yeah i think its gonna be worse too.
a LOT worse.
and the usual safe haven of bonds are fucked too with no upside and ALL downside.
not to mention the amount of dumb money shit like robinhood has brought in.

like you said. its not just .com its every sector just completely bubbled up.

all my REITs are mooning though so im comfy as shit. who needs bonds when you can get an avg 11% yield on a sector that is bullish under rising rates?

>>9217643
theres circuit breakers anon. it cant happen again. atleast not in a day

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:03:14 No.9217696 >>9217643 That only happens when lots of fraud get uncovered. Who wants to be it was completely unexpected and could have happened to anybody? Purely a bad coincidence. The FED poopooed.

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:07:21 No.9217746

>>9217662
This is the most moronic shit I've ever seen. This is major players who buy bonds in size went into equity markets because there are no yields. Now, it went on long enough, and they cashed their vested bonuses, etc. Now, they will retire, or get fired, or whatever, but they can't sell this shit now. Unless of course SNB does it's usual blow out because the thesis doesn't work. Then it will be one bad day, they will probably get stopped by the FED. But SNB is retarded enough to sell their $100B or so position market. Maybe on the open. It's not money for them in the first place. Or maybe they sell to the FED. Then more QE starts. It's not a normal market. If you ever traded auctions, its an imbalance action. Then they print, and then nothing is there anymore. It fades slowly or rapidly.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:09:09 No.9217769 >>9217662 >atleast not in a day This entire market cycle is one long bleed.

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 22:12:47 No.9217812

>>9217696
>>9217696
$43 trillion dollars sound like a lot of fraud to you?
look up what happened to spire law group
thats all ill say on this site. i dont wanna get whacked

>>9217746
kek yeah its funny. its almost advantageous to be a small fry right now. these money managers that still have all their fuck huge positions are now trapped.

>This entire market cycle is one long bleed
oooohhh dont tease me anon. im diamonds

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:16:06 No.9217847

>>9217812
I made so much in 2008 because I had no positions to weigh me down.

I do have some. I have puts on outrageous shit. What pays is buying after carnage. It was a total unintelligent wall of money pushing everything that would yield up. Wreckage will be just as stupid. Diversification is stupid. Pick up pivot issues that survive without failing. That's where the money is made.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:17:08 No.9217866 >>9217812 You better hope that money is gone. If it gets pulled, it's way worse. It's better to have capital destruction than to have that shit all pulled out.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:18:59 No.9217894 File: 64 KB, 638x558, 1525290274229.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >that 30yo boomer who buys stock

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 22:21:28 No.9217913

>>9217847
>I made so much in 2008 because I had no positions to weigh me down
this is unironically why i got involved in trading a year and a half ago. learned the ropes, practiced little. then feb came and im practicing bearshit the whole time. im fucking READY

>>9217866
take a look at the defendants list on that case before they got dissolved. barrys whole cabinet and every major bank (who knows where or if the money still exists, but i sure hope it isnt the same money theyve been lending around)

>>	teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 22:22:29 No.9217923 >>9217894 i hope to retire as a 30yo boomer

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:23:11 No.9217931

>>9217812
Mortgages I actually know what happened to. It's not a conspiracy. Banks blew up. All of them. WFC was as insolvent as CFC. They just lied. Liquidation ended, and properties slowly recovered in new more worthless dollars. But yields were suppressed. So stupid yield chasers who bought MBS bought equity now. Probably with the same result.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:24:49 No.9217952 >>9217913 King nigger is a racketeer. What do you think community organizing is? Nothing happens, because muh country. No new nigger presidents for a while, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:28:04 No.9217993 >>9217913 I went to public HS. We had a few gangs. I see them around sometimes. They all were in mortgages. It's hilarious. They look like respectable people now. They are literal street gang kids. It's crazy. You would never tell.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:28:27 No.9217999 >>9216299 have you tried buying puts? I've started doing it this week and it's been great

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 22:30:37 No.9218028

>>9217931
this does have me spooked. im holding some REITs with realty mortgage exposure for that sweet non fixed rate dosh. but at the same time im aware of all this sneaky subprime shit the banks have been doing by proxy. but those divs are so sweet.

you think puts on VNQ is a good hedge for realty exposure?

>No new nigger presidents for a while, though.
based on the last one i hope youre right. barry made bush look frugal in his first term alone

>>9217993
hah alright that makes me feel a lil better

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:36:40 No.9218101

>>9218028
REITS are funded through preferred shares. It used to be 10% standard. I don't care about those. This has nothing to do with real estate. If anything, it's safe. Maybe rents get hurt, but actual properties are not involved in any of the news stuff. It's all corporate and possibly government stuff. Equities. Every time you see a high yield investment, it will wipe out though, so I don't know. Short, cover into divvy, reshort. I wouldn't buy options on those things. Very little risk net of a divvy.

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:38:35 No.9218120

>>9217952
Man I'm a little older than some of y'all here and I have some bad news for you: before obongo we had the idiot son of an asshole and before him we had slick willie and before him we had a senile movie actor and his CIA sidekick and before him we had a retarded peanut farmer. And now we have a game show host, and it's not getting better any time soon. We haven't had someone competent in charge of this country since Ike. But the good news is it all seems to work anyway. God bless America.

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:42:13 No.9218177

>>9218120
But King Nigger is a nigger gangster. I'll take a cat over that. I bet you the money is missing from the Treasury. Maybe he still has the password, because the books from illiterate niggers fetch $30mm an advance. Come on. We never had an outright street criminal before.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:45:38 No.9218220 >>9218177 Sure we did, we had Kennedy. And form what I hear, Harding. And Grant. Still here, everything's fine. Somebody up there likes us, that's all I'm saying. Hell it must be true after fucking Kennedy

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 22:54:48 No.9218333

>>9218101
>This has nothing to do with real estate. If anything, it's safe
word
>Maybe rents get hurt, but actual properties are not involved in any of the news stuff
thats why i had my eye on them. some other div guy who posts here turned me onto it. i was just tryin to find a safehaven from equities (especially w rate hikes and FED FUD every other week). if it yields 10%+ even fucking better.

covereds into divs is what ive been doing, but i need more practice. i wish they came more than once a quarter/month.

>I wouldn't buy options on those things. Very little risk net of a divvy
i was just looking for a way to hedge small positions in realty without using something like protective puts where i sell and lose my div. my options (kek) are kind of limited as i trade a cash account

>>9218120
the whole fucking thing has been a psyop since JFK got whacked imo. the whole way up

>>	teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 22:57:09 No.9218356 >>9218220 hey poor john was just the SON of a gangster kek

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 22:59:02 No.9218379

>>9218220
Fine? If I was not trading, I don't know if I would be able to afford a middle class living, and I am talking about professional salary. We are not fine. We are collapsing, albeit slowly. But you know how it is, countries as people go broke slowly and then suddenly. Do you see many immigrants from Europe arriving? It involves no memory at all to claim that we are better off today. I am much better off today than 20 years ago. But I doubt my kids will be able to experience living in a wealthy country. I am an exception. I'm lucky. Not smart, lots of smarter people are doing much worse than me.

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 23:03:23 No.9218433

>>9218333
If you make money, you should go to some prop shop. They give you leverage 25-1 or more. It's like trading their capital with your money as risk. Those are decent deals. You can go to First NY for no money down, but % is much worse. You will never make a lot of money like that. You need leverage. You can invest, but you can't make a living on retail platform. Most prop traders lose money too.

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 23:09:13 No.9218516

>>9218379
>If I was not trading, I don't know if I would be able to afford a middle class living
you wouldnt be able to
you either go into crushing debt at 18 to "getta gud edukayshun" and then get fucked cuz lol RECESSION (not to mention how useless educational institutions are now)

or you bypass that (leaving you with no credit) and go get some fucking retard-tier mortgage from whoevers dumb enough to lend to your sorry ass, so you can pretend to have a house for a little while until you ultimately default and crash yourself AND the economy (again).

>>9218433
i still need much more practice before i try anything like that. theyd laugh me right out the front door. like i said ive only been doing this for a little while. i just knew i had to get some hands on exp in before it all came crashing down. if i can swing this crash and buy it up, THEN ill have something worth showing them

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 23:15:12 No.9218622 >>9218516 did you see this? Apparently Elon Cusk lost it in the earnings call https://www.marketwatch.com/story/elon-musk-acted-like-a-jerk-and-tesla-stock-paid-the-price-2018-05-02

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 23:19:02 No.9218684
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>>9218622
elon needs his fix before he can just out and out lie to his shareholders about running a real company. think how fucked they would be if the tax bill didnt get passed, or they werent given govt handouts, or if everyone dumped their shitty junk bonds (they already are).

elon needs his medicine.

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 23:19:26 No.9218696

>>9218516
I'm older than you. I'm gen Xer. I actually had good job market to start with. I have an advanced degree in STEM. So I was in a enviable position. I was getting paid 60 from the start in the 90s. After a couple of years, I got raised to $75K + bonus. I was able to save up a lot of money to start trading. I hated my job. I was a quant too. It took me a while to learn to trade. I'm not going to lie to you, maybe 5 years. Then I wasn't even allowed to write programs to trade. When I had a few ideas, again, I would never have come up with this totally by myself. I was on a prop desk, I wrote a program, we made a lot of money. Now I'm on my own.

>>9218516
>i still need much more practice before i try anything like that. theyd laugh me right out the front door. like i said ive only been doing this for a little while. i just knew i had to get some hands on exp in before it all came crashing down. if i can swing this crash and buy it up, THEN ill have something worth showing them

You don't understand the level of idiocy "professionals" have. If you can do it with your own money, you are way better than a lot of those people who can only burn firm's money. You will either be fine or not. Chances are you will fail, but I was careful too. You have higher than normal chances of making it. It's also undoable alone. You need a partner. It's doable, but very hard. You will make friends in a firm. I would have gone to mad house if I didn't have a partner whom I traded most of my productive career. I did trade alone, but you will fell like you are talking to yourself all the time lol. It's a sanity check.

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 23:25:56 No.9218796 >>9218696 I'm averaging about 15% gains/day trading SPY options. If I'm right on my pick I'm usually about 20% (EBIO is my current pick, has been since last week) What do? Would a prop house accept me?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 23:27:08 No.9218812 >>9218622 LMAO

Big5Guy !JsYyJw4ORs Wed, May 2, 2018 23:30:07 No.9218856

>>9218684
>think how fucked they would be if the tax bill didnt get passed, or they werent given govt handouts, or if everyone dumped their shitty junk bonds (they already are).
they'd be fucked but i'm rooting for TSLA and everything Elon is trying to do, he has a forward looking attitude that is directed toward cleaning up humanity and i feel that's what the world needs. I don't trade the stock or really plan on it for awhile but i am rooting for more companies to follow suit and try to help the world out

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 23:30:18 No.9218860
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>>9218696
learning that python shit is the next step
is this a good free resource?
https://www.quantopian.com/lectures
havent bothered to dig into it
but if you know any good books on this stuff, please let me know. im trying to build a library (check pic related) for the anons here so that the literate ones dont have to get LIQ'd

>Chances are you will fail, but I was careful too. You have higher than normal chances of making it
i appreciate the kind words anon

once i got my confidence up i may just give it a shot.

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 23:30:37 No.9218865

>>9218796
I am not an options trader. I was trained and worked initially with a lot of options. Options are different game as far as leverage is concerned. I know they have prop houses. I'm sure First NY and if Schoenfeld is around they would let you trade options, but I don't know much about options prop. It used to be you sign up as a trainee on the floor of AMEX or some Chicago Exchange for options. I can't help you with options. I trade mostly cash. You have to trade volume with cash. Options are probably more risky, so comp may be small compared to cash equities.

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 23:32:20 No.9218886

>>9218856
i do actually like his ideas and goals (i just love giving him shit), but he shouldve sold TSLA and not spaceX. it was a bad move on his part. now his only hope is maybe a reverse merger IPO with spaceX. and that does NOT sound like something that will instill shareholder confidence

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 23:33:43 No.9218908 >>9218865 thank you for the advice, I'll look into First NY & Schoenfeld. You type like Trump talks. Post hat based gen x'er

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 23:35:06 No.9218923

>>9218865
im a fucking options junky myself. i need to get the cash before i can trade the cash

but the thought of having to live in shitcago in order to trade at CBOE makes my skin crawl. i hate that city (illinois is alright though, its just to bad theyre connected)

>>	Big5Guy !JsYyJw4ORs Wed, May 2, 2018 23:35:36 No.9218927 >>9218886 >but he shouldve sold TSLA and not spaceX so he sold spaceX? sorry i've kinda been out of the loop recently.. who bought spacex and who is going to run it?

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 23:35:47 No.9218932

>>9218860
Its not like you have a choice of language at first. You go off you API. If your API has a socket, you can use any language. If it's actual library, you are stuck with whatever library is written in unless you want to wrap up c or java in python. My fist API was fucking ActivX. Which is VB. I have a good system now, but all data gathering and trading was done on fucking VB. FIX has different risk requirements. They didn't extend anything beyond Reg T to FIX at the time. Now there are many APIs.

Real time will cost you $6K a month now. I paid $150 when I started. They made it worse for everyone now.

The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 23:37:38 No.9218949

>>9218886
>>9218856
I can really appreciate his forward thinking, but not at the expense of tax payers. True private does it better; let NASA take our tax dollars and focus on scientific advancement. I also have a really hard time believing that Musk will approve asteroid mining, which will probably be the only real viable source of income for quite some time when corporations first go to space.

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 23:42:23 No.9219015

>>9218908
http://chimerasecurities.com/
These people are not real prop, you put money down. They do options it says. You can't pull the money for a year unless its a profit, because it's some exchange requirement. If you have a pulse and a license they will take you. If you are good they will let you manage money. I'm sure there are others too. But it's the one where you put the money down. First NY is full prop. It's all the same shit, different formulas.

Big5Guy !JsYyJw4ORs Wed, May 2, 2018 23:42:38 No.9219019

>>9218949
>let NASA take our tax dollars
sorry bro, gotta disagree there, they've been taking tax dollars and doing nothing.
>I can really appreciate his forward thinking, but not at the expense of tax payers.
You can get government grants for certain businesses that are supposed to better humanity or some shit like that.. what business should we start?

https://www.sba.gov/blogs/government-grants-small-business-think-you-qualify

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Wed, May 2, 2018 23:45:35 No.9219052

>>9218927
yeah i think he still sort of is part of its direction or whatever, but he doesnt own it. dunno who he sold it to. but he left to try and capture the consumer market. my opinion is he stretched himself too thin. with margins tightening, theyre gonna be in a bad spot very soon. im thinking of getting really longterm puts on them when i have more capital. might as well help some of those poor shareholders out a little (for a nice price ;) )

>>9218932
wew, thats a lotta words i dont know yet. im gonna cap this and save it for when im not retarded.

i really do appreciate you letting me pick your brain for a bit tho m8. its a rarity in this game to have someone with experience actually giving out decent advice.

>Real time will cost you $6K a month now. I paid $150 when I started. They made it worse for everyone now.
im used to it. i was in 4th grade when 911 happened and the whole world got fucking ruined. i vaguely remember that things seemed to be a lot better back then, but all ive ever known is one simple fact:
it gets worse from here on out

Anonymous Wed, May 2, 2018 23:50:28 No.9219123

>>9219052
https://www.schonfeld.com/InvestmentStrategies

These people used to even pay minimum wage. I don't know if they still do. I think they take most people with the pulse. You get paid on gross or net too and no money down. I don't know what the deal is now. They will not let you code, though. They have quants who will code if you want to code something. It's the risk issue. I prefer stupider people if you ask me.

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Wed, May 2, 2018 23:56:06 No.9219189 >>9219019 R&D Autism & Incel Conversion Therapy

>>	Big5Guy !JsYyJw4ORs Wed, May 2, 2018 23:58:10 No.9219216 >>9219189 >R&D Autism & Incel Conversion Therapy sounds like a plan, what board has the most Autism that we can research? /b/?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 3, 2018 00:00:36 No.9219257 >>9219216 /r9k/ is the incel/autist axis of 4chan which puts it on a high ranking of being among the highest ranking in the world

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Thu, May 3, 2018 00:00:53 No.9219260

>>9219123
im gonna look into it thanks

its pretty funny. as a kid, i always had this idea that traders were all people with paper qualifications and fancy financial educations. but the reality is "you make money? get the fuck in there STAT"

it was kind of liberating when i started trading and realized the myth of "smart money". it made me feel a lot less bad about missing trades. at least when i fuck up i dont accidentally a whole million fucking dollars

>>9219216
probably /sci/ or /g/ but i havent poked my head into this chans other boards in years. (except for pr0n occasionally)

>>	The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Thu, May 3, 2018 00:01:07 No.9219262 >>9219216 /r9k/ for advanced, /pol/ for medium with potential weaponizing, /b/ for mid level social rejects, /k/ for obsession, /biz/ for lack of understanding of risk/pain

>>	teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Thu, May 3, 2018 00:03:23 No.9219295 >>9219262 im telling you guys, one of my favorite trolls back in the day was going on /sci/ and subtly fucking up calc equations. if you think IM an effortposter, you should see those guys (i love it). i think theyre all on wiz now desu

The Eternal Bear !!yU44QHZ7VO7 Thu, May 3, 2018 00:03:50 No.9219301

>>9219260
I think it is often forgotten that for one man to win on a trade another must lose. Yin/Yang shit.

Business is really fucking savage at concept. My tribe is better than your shitty tribe and I will do what is necessary to secure the existence and future of my tribe. I expect you to do the same. Hence respect.

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Thu, May 3, 2018 00:05:54 No.9219326

>>9219301
>Business is really fucking savage at concept. My tribe is better than your shitty tribe and I will do what is necessary to secure the existence and future of my tribe.
truly
the financial redpill (though the same can pretty much be applied to all humans/organisms that exist)

Anonymous Thu, May 3, 2018 00:15:09 No.9219464

>>9219326
It doesn't make sense. I have some boxes that would have opposite positions in the same name. It's less than ideal, and it rarely happens, but you are misunderstanding the nature of trading. It's statistics. The simpler your idea and execution is and more statistically significant results are, I don't care if I lose on one or make on another. It's like rolling the loaded dice if you have a correct strategy. My experience is that trading is made way more complicated than it is. Find significant edge, exploit it. Single trade makes no difference. It's a statistical trial. At least that's how I think of cash equity trades. Options, you buy significant upside, so it's not as cut and dry. But basically the same shit. One trade makes no difference at all. There are great trades, terrible trades, it's all a roll of a dice.

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Thu, May 3, 2018 00:24:55 No.9219583

>>9219464
thats why i was saying, i still gotta practice before i try this for real. im still going through and trying to find what works for me. ive got a couple decent ideas, but now its time to zone in on them and make them statistically foolproof.

Anonymous Thu, May 3, 2018 00:31:11 No.9219654

>>9219583
Yeah, but you realize that every strategy has losses, right? You really make money when you apply whatever the idea is to a wide universe of stocks.

I am 99% purely box/statistical trader. I some investing. But it's more to capture stupid shit. It's not really a business model. But statistical stuff is business. People used to do it by hands, but now the spreads are so low, it's not worth doing ti by hands, so computers do make money on those things because of statistics. And there are infinitely many strategies. What seems stupid to you is perfectly fine to whatever strategy is doing it.

You don't have all the market information either through retail platform and not all orders are available. It's taught like a trade. There are standard things.

>>	teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Thu, May 3, 2018 00:33:40 No.9219673 >>9219654 >You don't have all the market information either through retail platform and not all orders are available AGH I KNOW. it suxxx. how the fuck do i ghetto rig myself an orderflow chart for the SPX?

Anonymous Thu, May 3, 2018 00:37:42 No.9219707

>>9219673
I don't use that. I use futures as benchmark to relative value stocks. I don't use SPX. SPX is cash index. It's recorded trades. It's worthless to me. You use futures as a bench mark when you trade equities. At least NYSE. Nasdaq is I guess QQQs. I hardly trade Nasdaq. I do, but I mostly trade NYSE. Nasdaq is different. It's different style of trading.

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Thu, May 3, 2018 00:42:01 No.9219753

>>9219707
yeah me and some of the other guys have been daytrading the weekly options on it (pretty fun, lil bite size positions can do great. did a deep OTM one today and got 1000% ROI). it would be awesome to get the momentum on it before it happens

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Thu, May 3, 2018 00:43:40 No.9219763

>>9219753
woulda been 2 but im a chickenshit and i was scared id get stuck with them (it was for the FED shit).

i like options because you can lose a BUNCH more trades and still stay profitable if you have the balls to let your wins run a reasonable amount

Anonymous Thu, May 3, 2018 00:44:45 No.9219780

>>9219673
Most of trading is mechanical. Trying to sniff out buyer or a seller. So for different markets there are different techniques, because there are different rules. Trading is affected by different rules. It's not one approach fits all. The same things work for NYSE stocks but wouldn't work for NASDAQ stocks. NASDAQ is more like black jack, and NYSE is more like poker. NASDAQ is too thin a universe for what I do. But again, different people are good at different things.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 3, 2018 00:47:12 No.9219804 >>9219753 I was first taught that all the companies I know are not my stocks. I need to find some pos mid caps and train there. I traded A/B shares because nobody traded them. I made a little bit of money on them. It's more like a training tool.

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Thu, May 3, 2018 00:50:20 No.9219841

>>9219804
were all just so bearish on all of them, i think we feel itll be an easy trend to predict. ie: directly fucking south after the rally. i think ive done like one position of calls on it in the last 2 weeks.

i dont like trading the individual cos stocks because i cant stand the shit company. theres too many people that shouldnt be invested right now and its gonna make it way worse than it has to be (unless im short)

Anonymous Thu, May 3, 2018 00:53:59 No.9219876

>>9219753
There is a way to do it. You need to write a calculator. This trade used to be great, it's a POS now. You mean when index takes off in the later part of the day? It was great when those levered ETFs rebalanced. They changed methodology. They were losing so much money on it to guys like me. It's tricky now. I think they are much less stupid and it's not worth it for me to deal with this trade except when it's obvious. I don't know what people do now. I have my own set of models that sort of build into a coherent structure, and it keeps me busy. It's endless work. That big smack down trade if when the market collapses into he close is a classic. That I do, but it's really one of those easy money pick ups not something systemic.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 3, 2018 00:56:22 No.9219902 >>9219841 My boss used to short stocks down a fortune closing at the lows. There is little retail in individual names now. But retail panics and sells on the open. Retail is gone from most stocks. They are in hot names and etfs.

teh profit !1HSeHmYKrU Thu, May 3, 2018 01:01:28 No.9219945

>>9219876
>You mean when index takes off in the later part of the day?
ha well recently, its just been anyones ER who has P/E of <9000 or some retarded shit
and banks because all the subprime shit.
all these earnings are just so obviously topped out, i dont know what the fuck anyone is doing anymore thinking they arent buying the ABSOLUTE peak

>It was great when those levered ETFs rebalanced. They changed methodology. They were losing so much money on it to guys like me
kek you know its a good strat when they change the rules of securities to try and stop you haha

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