12 Memes for Life

[Anonymous No.9169514]

> Stop being a worthless NEET
> Beta-male lobster and
> Clean your room

What does he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.9169779]

It's clear fucking English. Do you have a learning disability?

[Anonymous No.9169852]

>>9169514
clean le room son

[Anonymous No.9169856]

>>9169779

peterson often uses symbology and metaphors in his lectures

in this case he does not actually mean 'clean your room', he means get your life into order, the cleaning of your room is included in this

it is a multi-layered statement though, since the best way to start getting your life into order is to clean your room, since every step after that gets progressively more difficult

beta-male lobster is an interesting one, lobsters are low intelligence scavengers that live in the depths of the ocean, but they are also basically immortal and reproduce all the time, they can also be aggressive and deliver terrible wounds to creatures larger than themselves with their claws

I don't think its a good metaphor personally, since the lobster may be dumb, but is actually a cool animal imo.

[Anonymous No.9169900]

>>9169856
have you read the book?
the lobster thing is just that lobsters have a common ancestor with humans that goes back about 300 million years, and yet have a remarkably similar nervous system to ours that confirms that dominance or competence hierarchies are biologically mandated.
failure in the lobster dominance hierarchy causes physiological transformation of the loser lobster. it does the same in people. there's nothing we can do about it. it's not good to be a weak lobster, because it ruins your life. this applies to humans too. that's all.

[Anonymous No.9169925]

>>9169856

>lobster is pretty cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything

What? No. Lots of the animal kingdom make use of serotonin mechanisms, just like humans. It is easily displayed in lobsters because there is a direct correlation between the serotonin mechanisms in action and their position within a hierarchy, often depicted by their posturing after successful fights or mating.

This is simply to provide evidence of hierarchies in nature (which are rife), to help dispel the notion that they are social constructs and not part of primitive innate biological mechanisms.

[Anonymous No.9169937]

>beta-male lobster
*le based clean your room philosopher
*snibbety-snabbing intensifies

[Anonymous No.9169978]

Jungian mysticism is garbage and Peterson is also garbage

[Anonymous No.9169989]

>>9169978
...aaand the contrarians are here

[Anonymous No.9169997]

>>9169978
why?
i'm interested in your perspective

[Anonymous No.9170057]

>why haven't you cleaned your room yet, bucko?

[Anonymous No.9170060]

>>9169997
Peterson uses Jungian archetypal analysis to decrypt myth and stories, yet is unable to come up with an undergraduate-tier explanation of any other school of thought, most particularly Post-modernism. Makes you suspect he chose the one academic discipline in which you play match-up with what the guy before you said, rather than having to think for himself.

[Anonymous No.9170090]

>>9170060
No one is able to explain postmodernism*. Least of all postmodernists.

*that is without using expressions like "complete and utter dishonest tripe"

[Anonymous No.9170112]

>>9170060
have you read maps of meaning?
that aside, i can see how people would think that he brings little new. i was more-so asking the poster why he thought the whole Jungian school of thought was useless.

[Anonymous No.9170151]

>>9170112
in particular, i can easily see why people think be brings little new if they've only been consuming content he's put out in the last two years. for better or for worse, he's shifted focus to more easily understandable or, perhaps, practical ideas so that he can be accessible to a wider audience. this necessarily contains being less groundbreaking in one's message, judging by the history of the traction of groundbreaking thinkers.

[Anonymous No.9170197]

>>9169514
Rants about betas, gets cucked by sjws

[Anonymous No.9170208]

>>9170090
Sounds uh, contrarian there buddy.
>>9170112
I suffered through it, yeah, and on the Jungian school of thought being useless, it is discredited in terms of professional/practicing users. It clearly has some academic application, mostly in the history of sciences field, and sometimes shows up in the odd literature conference piece, but it is a pretty closed and settled field - not to say it might not be re-opened in the future.

[Anonymous No.9170249]

>>9170060
But post modernism is jew trash designed to ruin democracy

LINK $1000 EOY

[Anonymous No.9170307]

oh you fags are serious about the lobster thing, aren't you? jesus...

[Anonymous No.9170332]

btw if you take any philosophy or 'school of thought' seriously you are an enormously retarded queer and you should be euthanized along with all feminists, communists, nationalists, and actual homosexuals

[Anonymous No.9170345]

>>9170332

[Anonymous No.9170346]

>>9169514
>dont criticize jewish power and influence
>there is no difference between races
>jews only have power because of their high genetic iq
>always tell the truth
>except when it's hard or not popular, then just ignore it
>scam incel losers for a hundred thousand each month
>sell mats for 2000 dollars

[Anonymous No.9170361]

>berrypicker has dirty cave
>tells people to clean their caves
>share their berries

[Anonymous No.9170366]

>>9170060

He's constantly giving a brief synopsis postmodernism to preface his entire argument against it. Have you watched a lecture by him on this topic? He has a few specifically on postmodernism and its ironic incompatibility with Marxism, yet another school of thought he lays out to preface his arguments against it.

To surmise, he usually briefly states something akin to postmodernism as:
>infinite interpretations of the world, thus truths to be subjective or fluid
>a constant push to criticise the established meta or existing hierarchies
>viewing previously established knowledge or value structures as socially conditioned, rendering them subject (or ones duty) to critique and destroy

It's easier to disagree with someone when you know what they're saying. Listen to him more and you might be able to form a good argument against his world view...

[Anonymous No.9170378]

>>9170332
Wow, an actual retard

[Anonymous No.9170390]

>>9169514
He's a con artist who has capitalized on a cottage industry of NEETs and manchildren. Pretty /biz/ if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.9170391]

The best you can say about Peterson is, at least he's not Stefan Molyneux.

[Anonymous No.9170400]

>>9170391
Stefen Molyneux has produced far more quality memes than Jordan Memerson though.

[Anonymous No.9170434]

>>9169514
He meant that you should clean your fucking room before trying to change the world. Most people who think that they have fantastic ideas about how to change extremely complex systems like society and economics aren't even able to bring a little order into their immediate surrounding (aka their room).

[Anonymous No.9170451]

>>9170390
He's monopolised the worst of society. He critiques one halve and the other blindly pay him to do it. It's a circus, but the upside is someone might pick up a book as a result. Never a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.9170477]

>>9170451
That's actually just what the neomarxists and the postmodernists do, and it's one of the reasons why he (rightly) despises them.

We agree on the book thing though.

[Anonymous No.9170490]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8ATffrOHI5Bl/

[Anonymous No.9170492]

i can only imagine that people are so defensive when peterson is "attacked" because he is essentially their father. they never had a father figure to tell them to clean their room, and that kind of shit was so mindblowing for them, their brain had no choice but to associate him as a father.

kind of sad, really. but that doesn't make it okay to leech off your single mothers. it's time for Le Sons of Peterson to get jobs

[Anonymous No.9170522]

wow, fucking based!

[Anonymous No.9170561]

>>9170378
>>9170345

t. imbeciles who require another adult human being to tell them how to act and achieve satisfaction in their lives

go sob to peterson or your other eceleb idols, retards

[Anonymous No.9170562]

>>9170332
>What is the Horseshoe-theory?

[Anonymous No.9170565]

>>9170522
mom and dad didn't explain why i should clean my room in terms i could understand like lobster memes and disney movies

[Anonymous No.9170577]

>>9170522
"clean your room because we want you to" versus "clean your room because ultimately you want to" are entirely different messages. regardless, it's good that people are using his message to try to put their lives in order, even if they should've, ideally, done so earlier

[Anonymous No.9170598]

>>9169900
Beautiful summary, anon. Bravo.

[Anonymous No.9170600]

tfw too contrarian to not mock as idiots those who share my own views

[Anonymous No.9170669]

peterson fucking SUCKS his fans are a reflection of me and that's ANNOYIng and ultiamtely i wish any popular figures who i kinda like would just FUCKING DIE so i can feel cool for thinking ~outside of the box~ and shocking my friensd with my hip cutting edge views of the world

i dont even care if my views are never spread because i dont really even hold them, understand them or care for them

i wish my ideological opponents would grow in size solely to embolden my contrarian suave and make me feel more justified in my hopeless nihilism which i disbelief in (haha i even contradict myslf that's hip)

[Anonymous No.9170680]

>>9170669
>>9170600
imagine being this buttblasted that people don't like your surrogate father figure

[Anonymous No.9170696]

>>9170208
suck me :)

>>9170492
Wait what? Peterson fans are "so defensive"?

As opposed to every lefty who shits his/her pants when he says something that 5-10 years ago would have been completely uncontroversial?

I wouldn't say Peterson fans are excessively defensive. In fact many of them turned on him when he went against the principles he claims to defend and barred Faith Goldy from appearing on a panel he was on.

Also look at this thread. The Peterson "fans" seem relatively calm and reasonable with the odd lobster reference, whereas the "critics" are saying things like

>con man
>garbage
>monopolised the worst of society

and calling Peterson fans "retards" and "imbeciles"

[Anonymous No.9170718]

>>9170669
kek you sound like me when I was 21. you'll grow into your views soon and stop self-narrating your own contradictions soon anon-kun, you need to lift weights and let the serotonin flow first before you feel comfortable in your own skin

[Anonymous No.9170736]

Kike shilling has spread to biz it seems, pathetic

[Anonymous No.9170739]

>>9169514
He just makes pop psychology claims that easily digestible
Only thing he's done is helped NEETs get some responsibility

[Anonymous No.9170749]

>>9170680
i don't care that people dislike Peterson. i am not remotely bothered with the fact that there are people who absolutely and deeply loathe his views on the world and consider themselves his absolute ideological opponents.
i merely find it frustrating that there's a large group of people who are ideologically by-and-large in line with him but dedicate large swathes of time laughing and mocking themselves and their own ideas (and those who propagate such ideas) for God knows what reason, and relatively scarcely bother to even critique their own ideological opponents anymore. they appear so dead-set on believing that the world is hopeless that they want to destroy anything that brings hope

[Anonymous No.9170764]

>>9170696
>The Peterson "fans" seem relatively calm and reasonable with the odd lobster reference, whereas the "critics" are saying things like
wow, your side is le objective and rational and the other side is buttblasted mad according to you, you don't sound biased at all.

I said he's a conman because that's what he strikes me as. The self-authoring program is basically you paying him $$ for the privilege of writing in a diary, lol

[Anonymous No.9170770]

>>9170749
are you copy and pasting from his speeches or are you actually that mind controlled by a man in his 60s

[Anonymous No.9170784]

>>9170770
why would he speak about himself in the third person? what are you even getting at? elaborate. make a point.

[Anonymous No.9170816]

>>9169514
why would any self respecting NEET listen to some homo on the internet?

[Anonymous No.9170821]

>>9170764
i don't think selling a simple materially product makes you a con-man, i think that title belongs to those who sell misleading products
you may correct me here, but unless he's a conman above the level you described (lying about results of his products), then his service appears to do exactly what it promises to, and helps those who buy it to achieve results.

[Anonymous No.9170845]

>>9170060
>post-modernism
Like cancer to the body is post-modernism to the collective western mind

[Anonymous No.9170848]

>>9169900
Did you miss the part where he says "don't be" a lobster?

Sure, life can grind you down and fuck you up but that doesn't mean you have to do like a lobster and just give up and undergo physical (or psychological) disfigurement for taking your licks.

We ARE after all different from lobsters after 300 million years, are we not?

So my interpretation is like:

you got your ass handed to you, now get up, put the rocky speech on youtube and start a new day, new dawn by cleaning your room. Both proverbially and possibly literally for the last part.

"New day new Kismet" is the best I've heard it said.

[Anonymous No.9170849]

>>9170816
the ones that aren't/weren't self-respecting and the ones that can't/couldn't see the big picture like/liked him

[Anonymous No.9170908]

>>9170849
...is what he wants you to think
:^)

[Anonymous No.9170914]

>>9170848
>We ARE after all different from lobsters after 300 million years, are we not?
No, we aren't.
We're more complex, but the system within us that responds to the stresses and rewards of status within a hierarchy are so similar that drugs that work on us work on them to.
It's a primitive circuit within us that has been active for THAT LONG. To deny the basis of our functioning as artificial is unhelpful.
I just read the book, he says to not only be a lobster (since at one level you are on) but that you should face life with your claws up; ie assert yourself.

[Anonymous No.9170932]

>>9170848
One of the points with the lobster is you can't just shake it off, it's an ancient physical thing that when you get beat up you get less motivated, your body produces less of the chemicals that motivate you to do things, you become too risk averse. So do thinks that work out so you don't get beaten, things that are manageable like cleaning your room and work your way up.

[Anonymous No.9170935]

>>9170749
>they appear so dead-set on believing that the world is hopeless that they want to destroy anything that brings hope
I think you are projecting bud

[Anonymous No.9170979]

>>9170935
just go on /pol/. with the exception of world leaders transient pop-culture figures (march for our lives), the people most critiqued and slandered are not ideological opponents, but those similar in ideological viewpoint to the masses of that board. spencer, molyneux, peterson, millennial woes, styx, varg, etc.
the entire board is false flagging and baiting

[Anonymous No.9170996]

>>9170979
Sounds like a /pol/ problem and not a problem with people who are skeptical of a UofT professor peddling self-help products.

[Anonymous No.9171086]

>>9170932
>>9170914
Good answers, shows my lack of familiarity with the subject

I still think the rocky speech applies tho, since losing is inevitable in this life. It takes something more than lobster brains to get over it tho

[Anonymous No.9171124]

>>9170561
It is not about another adult telling you how to live. It is having the humility to know that the collective knowledge of thousands of years of human history and experiences likely have a better idea about how you should conduct yourself in the world than you do. It is extremely arrogant and naive to dismiss.

[Anonymous No.9171258]

>>9170979
>molymeme, memerson, millennial memes, xxdarkbladez420xx, churchburning murderer etc..

[Anonymous No.9171266]

>>9170562
retarded meme that sells the idea of the "lesser of two evils is better" rather than approaching the problem logically. Horse shoe theory is an intellectual fallacy, I think styxhexenhammer explains this well in his cone vs horse shoe theory vid. I won't link cos he's an eceleb.

>>9170979
none of those e celebs will discuss the (((jay queue))) or flat earth, it really triggers them when it's brought up too. It's interesting to see what triggers people who want to influence other people.

I agree with most of the things you said re peterson, but he has raised the bar in normie discussion it seems so that's a win.

[Anonymous No.9171301]

i don't sleep until i've read my daily chapter of 12 ways to live

[Anonymous No.9171403]

>>9171124
>It is extremely arrogant and naive to dismiss some old faggot who makes a living by peddling pop-philosophy to racist incels and psychotic betamales

wow damn, really makes me think
maybe u r on to something here

[Anonymous No.9171414]

>>9169514
clean ur room xD

[Anonymous No.9171466]

its actually amazing to me that so many of you buttmunchers worship this clown and his rambling sophistry

you're like the sad fuckups I've met in my life who always had their nose in a self help book, instead of out actually living their lives and doing shit and meeting people

I would bet real $$$ that most of you are medicated also. You are fucking livestock.

[Anonymous No.9171609]

>>9170390
>>9170451
>He's monopolised
Problem is he's not selling anything besides a $12.99 book the majority of his fans are pirating, and some exclusive patreon content, which a couple rich libertarians contribute to out of good will. Virtually everything meaningful he puts out is available for free.

If he wanted to become a rich asshole, he could've written any half-assed self help book and rode the Oprah/Ellen/Dr Phil train. Instead this sad fuck put his career & family's well being at risk, clearly not intentionally.

[Anonymous No.9171635]

>>9171466
Why are you so mean? We want to improve

[Anonymous No.9171675]

>>9171609
The actual motherfucking state of Petersonians xd.

Did you knew that he is working in a top class university (for cucknadians) FOR MONEY?! (Spoiler-Alert: Its not that low of a wage)

[Anonymous No.9171784]

>>9171675
Right, and why would you willfully give up a tenured position with a good salary to "capitalise" on a market of broke disaffected NEETs?

I'm saying the idea this was some kind of premeditated cash grab is retarded. Clearly he was in a better situation financially before his story broke. Even if he gets some short term gains from book sales, any idiot would prefer a salary + benefits + assistants, paid sabbaticals, research equipment, etc.

[Anonymous No.9171797]

>>9171675
Probably not anymore, he earns way more through his patreon and his book.

[Anonymous No.9171840]

>>9171797
>>9171784
He's still working there and he gets a yearly 6-digit wage PLUS his books, maps and tutoring stuff.

[Anonymous No.9171938]

>>9169514
It's a bunch of self-help bullshit wrapped up in pseudo intellectualism. He's literally cashing in on the whole disenfranchised white anti-sjw male memes. His shit is appealing to normies because he eloquently explains the problems the average person is most likely to have, then provides "solutions". And because he speaks good and smart like, everyone eats it up. Especially the average gamer 4chan browser neets, they are his biggest demographic for a reason.

He's also fucking retarded with his whole Bill C-16 and muhhh post-modernists neo-marxists are everywhere bullshit. He has some decent stuff but his fanboys are absolute brainlets, just like Sam Hariss's.

[Anonymous No.9171954]

>>9171840
>He's still working there
Only b/c he's using up his remaining vacation/sabbatical days. He has not taught for over a year, and has publicly stated the school is moving to end his contract before he resumes classes.

Again, even if he's making more $$ from book sales, appearances, patreon, etc. I think anyone would take the security of a tenured research position over some fleeting and extremely controversial level of fame.

[Anonymous No.9172043]

>>9171403
Pretty clear you don't think much in general.

[Anonymous No.9172310]

>>9171266
Peterson specifically addresses the JQ by saying "of course Jews are in positions of power, they've been selectively breeding for intelligence for millenia" while other races select for dumb shit like dick size.

[Anonymous No.9172406]

>>9172310
Jew aren't known for their small dick size. Thinking they were rapidly selected for intelligence, which made the intelligence a hodge-podge of mental faculties that also show themselves as definitely serrated personality traits.
To combat that, jews were also selected for being sexually attractive to each other, so to combat the inherent shitty personalities they have so that they might tolerate each other to at least have children.

[Anonymous No.9172531]

>>9172406
I wasn't implying that jews have small dicks, I was implying that niggers are dumb.

[Anonymous No.9172566]

>>9172531
You were implying that jew dicks weren't selected for size. I doubt that it was the case, as shown in the post.

[Anonymous No.9172700]

>>9171840
He makes $164,000 a year from UofT and a minimum of 50k a month from Patreon (possibly much more) and lots more from youtube, probably at least 5k-10k per month.

Pretty sure the guy is set for life already.

[Anonymous No.9173059]

>>9169978

This

[Anonymous No.9173253]

>>9172700
>What is Canadian Dollars
$164k CAD = $128k USD
Minus ~30% in federal and provincial taxes = $89k

Add Canada's ridiculous property taxes, legal fees (he is facing potential human rights litigation), college funds, mortgage, typical living expenses, etc.

I don't think this guy is as wealthy as ya'll think.

[Anonymous No.9174034]

>>9171635
crabs in a bucket mentality. I don't think he wants anyone to improve because he doesn't want to improve or sees nothing worth improving in himself. not to say that there wouldn't be plenty of room for improvement judging by his attitude, he's probably even worse in real life and extremely isolated and toxic as a result. just a guess

[Anonymous No.9174761]

>>9170669
contrarian views is the lifeblood of this entire site, dont read so much into them