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Calls BCH bitcoin on his website.
Dumb corecucks take the bait and start a lawsuit.
Now Roger will be able to prove in court that bitcoin name belongs to bitcoin cash, he already has the government on his side (https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/01/29/bitcoin-cash-real-bitcoin-says-us-government-department)), calling core bitcoin will become illegal in usa and other countries will likely follow for conveniency.

>> No.9134240

go back to /pol/

>> No.9134261

>>9134240
Never been there.

>> No.9134276

>>9134229
He was the first man to invest in Bitcoin companies. So compared to everyone who knew about Bitcoin at the time he was more confident in it which is another way of saying he's got bigger balls than even Satoshi.

>> No.9134303

Bitcoin is the chain with the largest cpu power, as stated by Satoshi in the original bitcoin whitepaper. Thus, bitcoin core is bitcoin. Fuck off cashiers

>> No.9134305

>>9134240
this
>>9134261
well you belong there

>> No.9134323

>>9134303
Bitcoin is also defined in the original whitepaper as a chain of digital signatures. It's literally the first sentence after the introductions.

>> No.9134331

>>9134305
Go back to taking care of Jamal's child.

>> No.9134361

lol, the delusion of you late adopters is astronomical.

if it ever got to court, it is a complete slam dunk that Bitcoin the name, and BTC the ticker overwhelmingly belongs to and refers to one cryptocurrency, and that isn't (right now at least) bcash.

>> No.9134389

>>9134361
>it is a complete slam dunk that Bitcoin the name, and BTC the ticker overwhelmingly belongs to and refers to one cryptocurrency
If the whitepaper distinctly refers to Bitcoin as being BCH it is very hard to understand your position. What else are we to use to define Bitcoin other than the paper released by its inventor?

>> No.9134407

>>9134389
What the fuck are you talking about you fat cretinous liar?

>> No.9134413

>>9134389
>whitepaper
firstly, it doesnt, fi anything the whitepaper lays out specific protections that bcash had to undo in order to stay alive, protections there to explicitly prevent that kind of minority fork.

but lets entertain your delusion for a minute, and assume that the whitepaper does actually refer to bitcoin as bcash, well, that doesn't actually mean anything, because the overwhelming consensus and expectation of someone when they buy "bitcoin" or "btc", is that they're buying bitcoin, not bcash, and so the result is the same.

>> No.9134459
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>>9134407
This you idiot, and this is just the first paragraph. Any coin with Segwit does not fit this whitepaper by definition.

>> No.9134477

>>9134413
>but lets entertain your delusion for a minute, and assume that the whitepaper does actually refer to bitcoin as bcash, well, that doesn't actually mean anything, because the overwhelming consensus and expectation of someone when they buy "bitcoin" or "btc", is that they're buying bitcoin, not bcash, and so the result is the same.
So your argument is that if you define Bitcoin as BTC then clearly BCH isn't Bitcoin. The point is that this is what we are arguing about. I don't disagree you define Bitcoin as BTC, you are wrong. The creators of Bitcoin would tell you BTC is not Bitcoin, it is something different.

>> No.9134479

>>9134407
Nice argument.

>> No.9134508

>>9134459
K, but that's wrong and I think you know that.

>> No.9134522

>>9134459
Also that paragraph doesn't even support your claim, it's the same tired propaganda remixed to suit a different argument.

>> No.9134528

>>9134479
Actually it was a question. (You fat cretinous liar)?

>> No.9134540

>>9134361
> late adopters
implying that bitcoin cash is not supported by all early adopters while core crowd composes of newcomers scammed by core's propaganda and censorship into believing core is the bitcoin?

>> No.9134551

>>9134540
It's not an implication, it's just true

>> No.9134568

>>9134540
now you're just showing your newness. speaking from experience, us early adopters are significantly uninterested in bcash, especially since we got our airdrop of hundreds to thousands of coins for absolutely nothing and most of us haven't sold, so we are entirely indifferent.

only late adopters that actually had to buy bcash are desperately trying to shill it.

>> No.9134582

>>9134477
you're just going around in circles now. listen to what i'm saying. there is already mass consensus on what bitcoin is, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean having a tantrum about it like ver is changes anything.

in a court of law it is perfectly clear that someone selling bcash as bitcoin is being fraudulent.

>> No.9134619

>>9134303
and all that juicy hashpower will switch over then mining BCH becomes more profitable.
My body is ready.

>> No.9134630

>>9134303
bitcoin is the longest VALID chain. satoshi's chain picking algo is only relevant for chains that pass consensus, which bcash does not.

>> No.9134645

>>9134630
satoshi's chain is a chain of digital signatures.
Segwit changed this on the core-fork

>> No.9134902

>>9134229
>Genius
More like a cuck whose ass was pumped by someone in prison

>> No.9134919

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>> No.9134929

>>9134645
what a surprise, more bcash shills don't even understand how bitcoin and segwit actually works.

segwit does absolutely nothing to remove signatures from the blockchain. how do you think it wold even work if there was nothing to validate?

>> No.9134950

Bitcoin needs to die already. The only thing is has is the Bitcoin name.

>> No.9134953
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>>9134229
If you are still holding Bitcoin and expecting higher returns than BCH you're mentally challenged

>> No.9134994

>>9134953
i'm holding both, i haven't sold my free airdrop yet, and i dont see any reason to sell it sooner than i do any of my bitcoin. i wouldn't ever buy bcash, but that doesn't mean i'm going to sell it, i probably own more than most people on here, and i got it entirely for free. there's no reason to be hasty about selling.

if you were concerned with a large stable coin to outperform bitcoin, you should have gotten into ethereum.

>> No.9135000

Based

>> No.9135019

>>9134413
>the overwhelming consensus and expectation of someone when they buy "bitcoin" or "btc", is that they're buying bitcoin, not bcash
in court this is all that matters. cashies are ignorant of how the law works and if this lawsuit goes forward the scam artist ver is going to get fucked. will be funny to watch. popcorn ready

>> No.9135039

>>9134994
LMAO I don't trust anything that Slav touches, he said himself he only made Ether because he saw more more potential in Bitcoin. He has not solved ANY of the core issues we have considering scaling and mining

>> No.9135046

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>> No.9135055
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>>9134229
please don't make roger cry anymore. what did he ever do to you?

>> No.9135090

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>> No.9135449

>>9134229

>he thinks having the government on side could ever strengthen an argument as to which is bitcoin

Holy fucking shit

>> No.9135512

Bitcoin will always be the household name.

It's like if Walmart had a competitor called Walmart & Sons.

Nobody cares for the copy.

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>>9134303
Longest valid chain of digital signatures in a peer to peer electronic cash ledger.
Definitely not bcore by any demented stretch of the imagination.

>> No.9135673

>>9134508
> No it isn't
Yes it is.

>> No.9135686

>>9134568
We early adopters got airdrops alright, of lightning iCO denominated in shitcoin segwit tokens and taken over the legacy exchange ticker of BTC.

>> No.9135695

>>9134630
> VALID
right. Chain of digital signatures
Peer to peer cash.
Not bcore, deal with it coretard.

>> No.9135709

>>9134929
> segwit does absolutely nothing to remove signatures from the blockchain.
This is true only if you are looking at it from the perspective of node software after segwit was activated, as far as all the other nodes are concerned those nodes are just making anyone can spend transactions, and there are no signatures on them, that data is indeed outside the blockchain from their perspective.
Also, this doesn't actually imply that it's still a chain of digital signatures, even from the perspective of new nodes. Just that the signature method has been completely changed, which is what everyone here and many other places has been saying all along.

>> No.9135724

>>9135019
> we're here to build a trustless environment and change the world
> I have absolute faith in the trust based legal systems that resulted in the state of the present world
Fuck off cunt brain.

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9135748

Hide bacash threads
Ignore bcash threads
Report becash posters

>> No.9135890
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9135890

This is right out of r/bitcoin about the low quality anti-BCH posts - i'm not even joking:

>My theory: This is a new FUD campaign (just hear me out)... The current FUD campaign (claiming "BCH is the real Bitcoin") is coming to an end. Even if the calls for a class action lawsuit against bitcoin.com's fraudulent nature don't pan out, the community has been vocal enough to put a huge damper on their efforts. But let's remember one very important thing about the ones we know as "The Others(ub)": Call them what you may, but they can take a beating 'til they're black & blue, and yet they have always lived to fight another day (albeit with a re-imagined "face", and a completely different fighting style).
>My hypothesis: This new campaign is an attempt to make the r/bitcoin community look petty, mean, and immature (and in effect, causing newbies to venture over to the Others(ub) to see what they're all about (a.k.a.- bad publicity is better than no publicity).
>This attempt is sneaky, and I've got to hand it to them: Smart! Not only will they have their own legions of shills to upvote these posts to the Front Page of r/bitcoin; there will also be a vast number of "true" r/bitcoin subscribers helping them along just to spite the Others(ub) (and ironically, their/our own face). Think about it: if you were a n00b, ignorant to the reasons behind the BTC vs BCH debacle, and you went over to the BTC side only to see the Front Page filled with these kinds of posts, you'd probably go over to the Others(ub) based solely on the childish & borderline-bullying nature of this shit!

>> No.9136003

>>9135724
well that non argument doesn't deflect the assfucking that ver has coming in the court system should a trial move forward. like i said, i will be enjoying each pump and thrust as the courts ass fuck roger ver the scam artist. popcorn supply ready

>> No.9136076

>>9134361
>t.late adopter

>> No.9136290
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9136290

>>9134229
woops

>> No.9136396

>>9135890
ahahaha
>This new campaign is an attempt to make the r/bitcoin community look petty, mean, and immature

>It's Roger Ver's fault that /r/bitcoin is shit
>even though we drove him and every single one of his supporters out of this sub and the wider bitcoin community online
>he's still here, MAKING us look petty mean and immature

>>9136003
what are they even going to charge him with you dingus?
nevermind the fact that the website promoting the lawsuit is literally just a scam setup to trick corecucks into donating their bitcoins, for a lawsuit that is never going to happen I guarantee it

>> No.9136416

>>9136290
how lucky that BCH isn't a second compatible implementation.

it's an intentionally UNCOMPATIBLE version
made to avoid this very issue
and nowadays there are a bunch of different pieces of software that make up "bitcoin" anyway outside the official Bitcoin™ node implementation

>> No.9136436

>>9134459
this png is simply someone's interpretation of the whitepaper.

>> No.9136464

>>9134953
Fuck you're rich. I predict this market will end in tears, there's no way for so many people to become millionaires.

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>>9134229
Roger is the Donald Trump of bitcoin. He is not perfect, but he ain't wrong about the vast majority of what he says, either. The hatred for Roger is fundamentally the same form of imbecility as Trump Derangement Syndrome, though the context is different, the fundamental situation and consequent butthurt among brainlets is the same.
>>9136464
>Being this delusional about the smart money.
Wanna know why you are poor?

>> No.9136512

>>9134229
you can see just how manipulable people are through this whole fiasco, bch supporters argue with facts but btc supporters only argue through emotion
nothing in the top 10 can get there without strong fundamentals, ton of work going on with bch yet everyone calls it a scam
will it flip btc? I don't think so but I would love if it did, but even if you consider bch as an altcoin there are interesting developments with it that'll be very positive for price
everyone who supports a lawsuit for a decentralized open-source protocol is actually retarded (see: Tone Vays) and I hope they get smacked down
note: I'm holding more btc than bch atm

>> No.9136521

>>9135660
>valid chain
and when bcash forked they intentionally broke satoshi's proof of work algorithm, rendering their chain invalid.

>>9135686
>we early adopters
doesn't seem like you were one though.

>>9135709
those other nodes don't exist, in the same way that if you were running an old node that didn't know what a script hash was, you wouldn't understand what all these new multisig addresses were doing. that's not an argument.

>>9136076
so late i got myself a few thousand free bcash, and how many did you get from their little airdrop, late adopter?

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>>9136464

> there's no way for so many people to become millionaires.

thats why theres a limited supply and ever decrease tolerance for shitcoins

do you know the % of addresses with more than 50 BCH? less than 1%

>> No.9136529

>>9136512
why are bcash followers so delusional. strong fundamentals? bcash and litecoin are only in the top 10 because of heritage, not tech, or developers, or adoption. they're both pure speculator plays, nothing more.

>> No.9136540

>>9136512
also interesting parallel to the 2016 us election I've noted since last summer
bch is to trump as btc is to hillary
when things do come to a head with this lawsuit, I hope we'll see the side overly confident with their non-arguments be revealed for their nakedness

>> No.9136545

>>9136528
because bcash is quickly approaching litecoin levels of centralization of the coin supply. how many people do you think would prefer to own bitcoin diamond, or bitcoin private, or bitcoin cash, or bitcoin gold, over bitcoin?

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>>9136545

none of these forks matter

ltc was always useless

bitcoin cash is the only legit heir to the bitcoin name

after bitcoin core is dead and buried it will be the bitcoin

>> No.9136576

>>9134477
>The creators of Bitcoin would tell you BTC is not Bitcoin

Do you understand that doesn't mean anything in court? If it did the creators of all these security tokens could just say "It's not a security." and they'd magically not be securities even though they were.

Do you live in a fantasy magic world where things like this occur often?

>> No.9136577

People claming ownership on a copyleft code never fails to make me laught.

>> No.9136592

>>9136561
>none of these forks matter
exactly

>> No.9136606

>>9136577
ownership doesn't come into play. you think just because bitcoin's codebase is open soure, and has been used in hundreds of projects, means if someone on local bitcoins send you bcash when you paid for bitcoin, you wouldn't have a viable legal case against them?

you guys are so naive.

>> No.9136617

Corefags call Ver an autist and that is basically their only FUD against BCH other than the obligatory "LOL BEECASH"
Have the last 4-5 decades NOT seen weirdos and autists develop the best, most expansive technological empires?

This fella is acting dumb but moving smart and if you cannot see that you are food for uppers. If you really hate BCH THAT much, don't invest in it. But don't get mad when the price gap between it and BTC closes, whether that's because BTC goes down, or BCH goes up, or a bit of both, it WILL close.

>> No.9136618

>>9136540
A majority BTC stakeholder that actually capable of engaging in coherent dialogue is a rare find indeed. Mind if I ask your allocation?
>bch is to trump as btc is to hillary
Yes... you get it.

>> No.9136630

>>9136617
Haha no that's nothing but a rationalization. He IS dumb. But well connected.

>> No.9136635

>>9136606
You don't have a single example of a supposed aggrieved party. If you try and cook one up, I will look forward to the case being demolished in a court of law.

>> No.9136650

>>9136630
>Guy who adopted bitcoin back when it was in the single digits and made a fortune is an idiot.
Imagine believing this.

>> No.9136663

>>9136630
he likes to think he's well connected, but apart from a number of investments he made early, he's all but alienated himself now from being able to associate with projects that arent bcash related, thanks to all of the temper tantrums he's had and drama he's caused.

he's a non-pedo version of brock pierce, and if bcash wants a real future free of drama, ver is going to need to distance himself from it, and that doesn't even get into worse actors like wright.

>> No.9136664

>>9136630
Sure. Whatever you need to tell yourself to stay convinced that your outdated chain is still a valid option for either payment OR value storage.
>them fees tho
>those txns/s tho

>> No.9136674

>>9136635
>single example
until there is one there shouldn't be any lawsuits, but if there was one, the case would be clear, that's my point.

>> No.9136731

>>9136674
"Yes, Judge, I didn't understand the most important thing about the high volatility asset I was planning on purchasing, nor did I realize I made an error when I transferred to my wallet... and, as we all know, it is impossible to exchange BCH to BTC easily, so..."
Truly an embarrassing gambit.

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>>9134305

shitskin detected

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9137053

>misleads hundreds of thousands of people

>> No.9137064

>>9136731
in reality: someone bought a coin being listed as bitcoin, and ended up with bcash. you can't spin that

>> No.9137193

If two implementations that used to be POSIX where to change where one of the implementations changed into something not posix(bitcoin) but it still called itself posix would it merit it's name? No. It would only have the brand but ofc the community would choose the fork if posix compatibility was important to them and eventually they would also get the name(assuming the implementation took the name of the specification and the fork took the name posix cash).

So we're left with a brand issue and bitcoin is not a copyrighted name. Meaning there is no legal precedent sat for bitcoin cash to not call itself bitcoin (BCH) or whatever it wants. Case closed.