/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.9057713]

Fuck cryptos, fuck stocks

How do I make it big as an EDM producer? Do I just download a DAW and start mixing? How do I start

[Anonymous No.9057730]

Buy musicoin

[Anonymous No.9057745]

By drinking

[Anonymous No.9057747]

>>9057730
>>9057713
And chainlink to connect the blockchain to the music

[Anonymous No.9057749]

I just want to mix dank beats and perform shows where millions of bitches show off their asses for me, is this too much to ask for?

[Anonymous No.9057762]

>>9057749
Everyone is an EDM producer. It's the new "learning electric guitar".

[Anonymous No.9057772]

>>9057713
>Do I just download a DAW and start mixing?

There are years of experience you have to put into being not only a successful producer, but one who actually knows what they're doing.

You need to know theory, how to market yourself, how to master your own music, which samples to pick, which samples you CAN'T pick, how to mix properly, eq techniques, sidechaining, compression, the list goes on and on.

This isn't something you do overnight, and since /biz/ has the attention span of a five year old, I'd say just stick with wagecucking.

[Anonymous No.9057776]

Download some sample packs and sellotape them together. Get on Faceberk and Instagran and buy some followers. Tell them big things are coming... Sell your EDAM tracks to Beatport for next to nothing - repeat.

[Anonymous No.9057799]

>>9057762
Very true. It's almost too easy to be a producer these days with the availability of DAW's like FL Studio and music hosts like Soundcloud.

[Anonymous No.9057801]

>>9057730
Bjork approves

[Anonymous No.9057809]

>>9057713
>>9057772
ghost producer here. Don't over think it. Just make music and make it sound good. Technical stuff will come with time but its honestly not even necessary if you have a good ear.

[Anonymous No.9057828]

>>9057772
Well I know how to play the trumpet from middle school band and can read music. Dont know anything about "mastering my own music" whatever that means. I understand many people go to school to learn electronic music

>>9057776
>sellotape
>EDAM tracks
wat. have you done this?

[Anonymous No.9057846]

>>9057828
jesus christ kys

[Anonymous No.9057851]

>>9057799
FL studio is incredibly hard to use

>>9057809
but how? where do you get samples? how do you know which samples to choose/buy?

[Anonymous No.9057865]

>>9057851
>Fl studio is incredibly hard to use

I never say this unironically, but you should kill yourself. You're autistic as fuck.

[Anonymous No.9057918]

>>9057865
but its unironically the most confusing DAW

[Anonymous No.9057920]

>>9057851
>fl studio
>hard
Kys brainlet. Literal 10yo kids use fl studio to experiment.

[Anonymous No.9057928]

EDM sucks though, the only time its good is when youre rolling on mdma

[Anonymous No.9057947]

>>9057713
Don't let software elitists point you in the wrong direction. Skrillex started on FL Studio for fucks sake. Personally I like Ableton, it's very versatile and is easy to work with on the fly.
Learn to DJ and spend your free time producing your own music. Find local clubs with open deck nights, be social and get your name out there. If you can be a halfway decent DJ, that gets your name out there, and when you start dropping your own tracks your following will develop.
The most time consuming part can be socializing. The club scene never sleeps, even if you're not out performing, go and see other local DJs. Really the name of the game is being seen and getting noticed. I have a lot of friends trying to make it in the scene and the ones who are most successful so far are the ones who are out almost every night of the week.

[Anonymous No.9057951]

>>9057851
Get samples from splice or torrent them. I use proaudiotorrents, it has most of the packs and kontakt banks I want. FL/Logic/Ableton are the way to go. I use Ableton. And remember to take your earnings and buy more crypto.

[Anonymous No.9057967]

>>9057918
There are 3 DAWS I can think of off the top of my head that took me longer to master than FL. If you really wanna do it and have a genuine love for music, then you'll learn no matter how challenging it is to you. Crying on an anime board about how hard it is just proves to me you don't actually care. You just want to be the next Deadmau5, but won't even put forth the effort into learning how to use a fucking DAW.

[Anonymous No.9057997]

>>9057947
Constantly playing shows is not good for your brand. It helps you become a local dj but nobody wants that.

[Anonymous No.9058013]

shh buy opus

[Anonymous No.9058019]

>>9057947
DJing and producing are two entirely different things. A producer could literally be in his basement all day making tracks and still be somewhat succesful without having to hit the club every night

>>9057951
What music are you making? any samples

>>9057967
Im not crying, I just know literally nothing about the field or industry. I guess I'll just watch a bunch of FL studio tutorials for now...

[Anonymous No.9058040]

>>9057851
The first time I used FL Studio was also confusing for me but by following some basic tutorials you'll start to understand it

t. someones that been using FL for 4 years and still only has <1400 soundcloud followers

[Anonymous No.9058079]

>>9057713
Every time I see a BATTLE STATION thread, I see austists trying to do exactly what you say you want to do. They always have a budget chair, cheap desk, shitty monitor and PC, while they have the highest-end microphone and speaker set.

Good luck competing with all of those faggots who some work for literally free.

[Anonymous No.9058083]

>>9058019
I started with bass music, so like trap and dubstep mostly. But I make mostly pop and hip hop now. Still love edm but i'm not really djing any more I guess. Get owen J's sample pack off samples.com or whatever. Its a gem. Go from there with splice. Also get kontakt and a synth or two.

[Anonymous No.9058088]

>>9057713
lol used to have some neet friend who produced edm and djed in other countries and toured a bit in the scene. i highly do not recommend taking this route. chance of success is lower than 1%

[Anonymous No.9058109]

Is LMMS a good substitute for FL studio? I am too poor to afford anything but open source software.

[Anonymous No.9058124]

>>9057713
You spend the next 10-20 years of your life first learning about rhythm and timing. You waste years trying to DJ or play shitty events until you finally git gud and develop a real style. Maybe you find a fanbase, maybe you fail.

[Anonymous No.9058137]

>>9058109
Dont buy the software lol. Super easy to torrent. Literally no one buys it. My friend makes 30k a show and he still has the torrented version.

[Anonymous No.9058139]

>>9057801
That's a rare jork

[Anonymous No.9058194]

>>9057851
Dont buy samples. Use whats in the box for 99% of your production. You'll be a better producer for it

[Anonymous No.9058254]

>>9058019
That's absolutely true, but it's going to be a lot tougher to break through from your basement. Unless your music is unironically "fire" in which case that producer isn't asking for advice on /biz/ anyway.

[Anonymous No.9058288]

Pretty successful producer here on a decently known label I won't reveal. Also weird seeing this type of post here but cool whatever.

generally this >>9057772
even the mainstage fucks you hear about have been locked away working on this shit all day every day for at least half a decade prior to you hearing of them, and have accumulated skills, contacts and experience that could make it happen for them just that one time.

it's stereotyped as party party party woo make anthem on laptop and bang bitches then party party party all over again, but actually it's pretty lonely at the top - I've seen it - and constantly touring is one of the hardest things a person can do. but that's how you make money in this game.

if you feel like you have the creativity to make music then go ahead, but don't get ahead of yourself. the percentage of artists in the EDM industry who /make it/ is minuscule compared to those who have the same tools to do the same things. you just see the guys in the public eye and don't comprehend how many people are trying to be that person worldwide.

[Anonymous No.9058367]

Extreme charisma and decent talent.

But you can do much more with extreme charisma than becoming a shitty edm producer. Notice how most successful musicians already come from wealthy high IQ families anyways, they could have started professional businesses, be an executive, or a public official. The few that come from modest backgrounds (<10%) literally just hit the lottery, its basically a nonexistant 'chance' and often end up childless.

[Anonymous No.9058379]

>>9057713
Dance Music Manual by Rick Snoman is a good place to start if you're serious. Get the ableton free trial and see if you have the dedication to stick with it.

[Anonymous No.9058422]

>>9058288
have you been locked up working on shit every day for half a decade?

[Anonymous No.9058443]

xans

[Anonymous No.9058472]

>>9058367
>charisma
>having anything to do with producing beats

[Anonymous No.9058494]

>>9058288
yeah i'll just stick to lofi beats and making bandcamp tips on the side. sounds miserable

[Anonymous No.9058505]

What's the move to make if you want to be a producer/ghost producer? I'm not interested in fame, just want to be able to sustain myself making music.

[Anonymous No.9058506]

>>9058288
Hey Diplo

[Anonymous No.9058521]

>>9058472
kek charisma is like 90% of networking and thus /making it/

[Anonymous No.9058542]

>>9058521
this this this

this 100%

in literally any industry

[Anonymous No.9058564]

>buy link
>hire a ghost producer
>pay to be included in the coachella lineup

[Anonymous No.9058598]

>>9058564
Pretty much this.

[Anonymous No.9058672]

>>9058422
longer

>>9058506
not quite that big, relatively speaking. but we know a lot of the same people.

my suggestion is to be more offline and get involved with your local scene. make friends with guys who play local venues and radio people. that's still how this shit manifests itself, even and especially in a world where every 16 year old with a laptop and pair of headphones can do what Garrix or those other 2 popular guys can do

[Anonymous No.9058750]

>>9058472
>making it big
>ability to produce beats
anon, i...

[Anonymous No.9058763]

>>9057809
i have a good ear, but I don't know how to make it sound good. I've been producing for almost 3 years (though haven't made anything in months due to lack of inspiration and hitting roadblocks). Unlike most people that go around aimlessly sending demos, I can tell when I've made something that its not up to par with a professionally sounding track. Problem is, I don't know how to get that "pro" sound. Is the key just having better sound packs? I remember I made my best tracks when I had access to pretty much every NEXUS expansion but then when I lost that shit kinda started going downhill

[Anonymous No.9058784]

Buy Fruityloops, load template, change a few samples, push play and be a rich faggot

[Anonymous No.9058791]

>>9057772
>the list goes on and on.
kek, havent seen this in years

[Anonymous No.9058807]

>>9058672
been producing close to half a decade, know nobody willing to help promote. Pls be my friend.

[Anonymous No.9058848]

>>9058784
did you get rich from that faggot?

[Anonymous No.9058921]

>>9058807
my guess is you haven't left soundcloud/the internet. that's the problem, that's what literally every other person in your position is trying to do. the noise level is far too high for anything other than extreme talent to break through and be heard.

go early to smaller gigs, ask if you can help out with load in or anything > get to know other people of same interests (bands, artists etc) grow your network and take chances when opportunities arise. eventually there will come a time when you have an opportunity to present your music to someone connected and if it's good enough then you might get lucky.

[Anonymous No.9058971]

a friend of mine is really talented in producing music. He started 8 years ago and got signed at the known labels (spinnin, protocol etc.) but his career didn't really exploded. He started ghostproducing the last years for really big names in the scene and made a living out of it. Now, years later, he made couple of tracks and was in doubt of selling it, and suddenly the Swedish house mafia was interested in his tracks and his dj/producer career is exploding. My point is, you can be such a good/talented producer, without recognition and lucky, you won't make it. My friend was years ago already a better producer then 90% of the known names, but it took him years and a bit of luck before he took his career really to the next level.

[Anonymous No.9059039]

so to conclude

dont bother unless youre the best

[Anonymous No.9059041]

>>9058971
who is it?

[Anonymous No.9059087]

>>9057713
throw parties and sling molly. The music doesn't matter as long as party people are getting laid.

[Anonymous No.9059089]

>>9057928
Congrats you just figured out why 5 million people paid one to fifteen thousand dollars to go to Coachella last weekend

[Anonymous No.9059099]

>>9058971
Have a fren that got signed to spinning as well. Party Ghost. He didn't do too well. The faggot dated himself and is hanging on by a thread.

[Anonymous No.9059121]

>>9059089
coachellas not edm though, at least not mainly

[Anonymous No.9059153]

>>9059099
dated or hated? why are you friends with a faggot?

[Anonymous No.9059250]

>>9059041
check the ultra set of miami. The most popular ID's/white label tracks of their set (excluding the SHM ID's) are his.

[Anonymous No.9059252]

>>9059153
Both. He knows he fucked up when he tried to catch the trap moon a few years back instead of creating og shit. Dude is an immense talented autist, that's why I'm frens with the fag.

[Anonymous No.9059274]

>>9059250
SHM ultra*

[Anonymous No.9059348]

If I ever get into this, my goal is to incorporate more middle eastern beats as it hasnt been experimented much in EDM I feel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw1U6BjSoS4

[Anonymous No.9059369]

>>9059348
Literally white BMW music

[Anonymous No.9059396]

>>9059348
trust me, ive been in this game for years. No matter how good your idea, the labels won't sign it if it isn't a current sound :) i got tracks rejected by labels because it didn't fit in the current trend and had to redo a remix into a more generic sound. If u want to make it, go with the flow and don't try to revolutionize EDM. Or be as stubborn as you can get and create a own genre like Flume and Tchami did.

[Anonymous No.9059422]

>>9057713

Fuck this bland as fuck EDM crap. It was tolerable during a year or two, but it's stale as fuck now.

Not to mention that everyone's doing that crap nowadays, so you might as well find another musical niche which might yield more personal success and, hopefully, better music.

[Anonymous No.9059475]

>>9059396
i dont really care since im too much of a brainlet to even be able to write a song. just think it would be cool to have some sufi mystic trance going on. notice how REZZ is really poppin right now

[Anonymous No.9059481]

>>9059422
It's not about music fren. It's the production and the circus presentation. EDM is the new glamrock

[Anonymous No.9059503]

>>9057713
People who are into dance music /edm / rave are proven to have significantly lower cognitive functioning than people who are not into dance music / techno. So it is music for retards simply put :)

[Anonymous No.9059516]

>>9059481

I'm well aware it's the trendy thing nowadays and it's all smoke and mirrors, but even considering an economics only POV there's way too many people trying to make it on that crap so it's better to find another, profitable, niche.

[Anonymous No.9059525]

>>9057713
you really should learn how the music industry works right now before you will decide to be a musician. You can make a lot of money but you need to focus on getting rid of the middle man. You will get hundrets of offers and you should always assume people are trying to fuck you over, no matter how friendly they are. Always double check if you're getting a good deal. Also you should invest your money into your looks, it is important. When it comes to music try to copy other songs until you will understand the process, then you will be able to create your own music, creativity will come with time, don't worry.

[Anonymous No.9059576]

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[Anonymous No.9059610]

>>9059516
In lies the problem. What other genre is profitable? Nig-hop and festival Onions whoop anthems. That's what you have to ride on if you want to make money in the music biz. Music seems to have hit its creative peak. Inb4 there is a group of autists in a garage somewhere waiting to reinvent the game .

[Anonymous No.9059690]

>>9059610

And that's precisely why I get my money through other means besides my music.

[Anonymous No.9059692]

>>9059610
if you want to know whats the most profit-maximizing genre in music look at Drake- he combines yo im a tough nigger rap with oh i luv you so romantic feelsy chris brown

[Anonymous No.9059706]

>>9059576
DELETE THIS

[Anonymous No.9059720]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAjd9B9MsgE