Buy BCH. It's better than the shitty BTC with it's $50 fees and hours of waiting for confirmed transactions lmao. "but it's centralized!" Little bit of centralization never hurts. You can trust BCH miners, unlike the BTC ones. Decentralization is a meme.

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Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:18:52 2018 No.9051084 [Reply] [Original]

Buy BCH. It's better than the shitty BTC with it's $50 fees and hours of waiting for confirmed transactions lmao.
"but it's centralized!"
Little bit of centralization never hurts. You can trust BCH miners, unlike the BTC ones. Decentralization is a meme.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:20:06 2018 No.9051101 >>9051084 >Decentralization is a meme. Nope.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:31:03 2018 No.9051217 File: 287 KB, 1200x1286, 1200px-Roger_Ver.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9051101 Suck my dick dumb corecuck.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:34:02 2018 No.9051249

>>9051084
Clever disinfo tactic OP, really clever. Nah not really. Maybe it would've worked on reddit, but we see what you're doing.

First of all, we don't need to trust Bitcoin (BCH or BTC). It's a trustless system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbvtAlmfYQI

So who's mining is irrelevant.

Secondly, decentralization isn't a meme.

Thirdly, you're implying that with BCH there's pros and cons, the pros being speed and the cons being a centraliztion -- you (or rather those who hired you to post here) want to insert that idea into people's minds. The truth of course is with BCH there are only pros and BCH doesn't have any centralization to worry about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:41:53 2018 No.9051337 >>9051249 Shut up core shill. You're literally wrong.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:44:40 2018 No.9051372

>>9051084
You should try to hide a little better Segwit basedboy. The favor on mining nodes over witness nodes increases decentralization you twat. Also I guarantee BTC will have low fees for the rest of its life. Why? It will never have any increase in transaction capacity again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:45:43 2018 No.9051383 >>9051337 >basedboy I hate the new filter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:50:14 2018 No.9051428 >>9051337 You are the core shill. Did Cobra pay you to post here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbD0kiTddEs

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:51:30 2018 No.9051440 >>9051428 You don't understand the meaning of the word decentralized. BCH is decentralized money, BTC is decentralized nodes. A decentralized node network has no inherent value, a decentralized money has massive value.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:54:09 2018 No.9051468
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>>9051084
Corecucks are very proud of selling their "non-mining nodes" as decentralization even though they contribute jack shit to the blockchain. All the while deflecting the fact that LN itself is centralized and inefficient as fuck (eq. LN abacus analogy).

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:56:11 2018 No.9051488 File: 317 KB, 725x1454, mempool.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9051084 >$50 fees

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:56:52 2018 No.9051494 >>9051440 >BCash is money haha good one, but seriously its a shit fork brah

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 03:57:32 2018 No.9051501 >>9051084 > bitmain has an even bigger control over bcash than bitcoin > you can trust bcash miners #doublethink

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:09:27 2018 No.9051598

>>9051440
You seem confused -- just to inform you: "core" refers to BTC, to Blockstream's version of Bitcoin. And Cobra was/is an employee of Blockstream who wants to either get rid of the whitepaper or re-write it.

Your text is agreeing with my position, in saying BCH is superior.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:14:09 2018 No.9051633

>>9051084
BCash (Bitcoin Cash) is a fork of Bitcoin specifically designed so that Jihan Wu, the owner of Bitmain (the company that manufactures Antminer ASICs) can continue to exploit a mining accelerator called "ASICBoost".

His whole company's competitive edge was eliminated by Bitcoin so they forked off and made BCash instead and are trying to shill all over and convince people it's the real Bitcoin, when it's not

They're doing this with another justification - that an increase in the block size (literally just increasing a constant) is the method to scale, and Lightning Network is not. BCash cannot utilize Lightning Network since they did not implement Segregated Witness (SegWit), but there will be shills telling you that they can, but they really can't and won't

There are all sorts of other supposed benefits to BCash like 0conf which is really just a choice to lower security in favor of speed, same with the block size increase I mentioned above.

It's just a shitcoin trying to ape the real Bitcoin name. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, nobody with any real technical knowledge prefers BCash.

Also BCash nodes are highly centralized, see pic related. Ignore anyone telling you it doesn't matter, because it does

Everything I said is very important when it comes to the security of the cryptocurrency, but BCash supporters always pretend like these security-sacrificing tradeoffs don't matter. Ignore them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:15:28 2018 No.9051644 how much are they paying you

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:16:54 2018 No.9051653 >>9051633 how many times are you going to post this copypasta?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:18:02 2018 No.9051662 File: 296 KB, 704x806, 1514628823642.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9051633 >We post the spam again until the goyim believe it

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:22:16 2018 No.9051706

>>9051598
>Your text is agreeing with my position, in saying BCH is superior.
I know, but you are arguing incorrectly about decentralization. I'm telling you, that if we are measuring which is the more decentralized money, it is BCH. BTC has a more decentralized node network, but that node network is not money. You should research these things. The whole point of Bitcoin is not to ensure everyone runs a witness node, but to ensure that the system gives enough profit to miners to ensure security and stability. BCH stayed true to supporting miners as the upholders of the network, not witness nodes, so Bitcoin (BCH) is more decentralized.

Again, glad you support BCH, but you don't fully understand it yet.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:23:53 2018 No.9051718

>>9051084
>you can trust bch miners
>unlike the btc ones
They are the same people and you can trust them both based on the incentive model of the network.
>decentralization is a meme
100%, censorship resistance is the only thing that matters, which are two things btc and bch are equals on.
>>9051249
This guy is exactly right besides the decentralization meme. The entire scaling debate is a red fucking herring.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:25:06 2018 No.9051731 >>9051662 >>9051653 >being pasta makes it untrue the absolute state

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:27:22 2018 No.9051754 File: 1.99 MB, 480x270, OHHNOO.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9051662 >>9051653 >when your shitcoin can so easily be shitted on by a copypasta

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:28:34 2018 No.9051766
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>>9051731

It's not true, it's absolute fucking nonsense. You should probably buy in because Bitcoin (BCH) is on the cusp of regaining it's throne.

Bitcoin (Cash) is the real Bitcoin, it isn't controlled by some kike overlords unlike Blockstream's Bcore coin and their 'mah 1mb' mantra to ensure they can sell sidechain products to dumb goyim like yourself.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:30:55 2018 No.9051792

Only newfags from the previous winter and redditors support core at this point. That’s why all these faggots are salty. They didn’t own any BTC during the time of the fork. Its not like they have money to buy BCH anyway because they are still waiting to sell their BTC bags at 20k

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:33:26 2018 No.9051824 File: 1.09 MB, 293x266, animation1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9051766 >Bitcoin (BCH)

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:34:41 2018 No.9051833 >>9051633 You could keep copy pasting the same post over and over and over and over but it won't make it any truer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:36:06 2018 No.9051848 >>9051833 no, it will remain just as true as when it was first posted. the benefit of reposting is to allow more people to read it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:36:28 2018 No.9051851 >>9051084 >Little bit of centralization never hurts. You can trust BCH miners, unlike the BTC ones. Decentralization is a meme. Haha Jesus Christ Get the fuck out you shill

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:37:37 2018 No.9051865 >>9051084 >You can trust BCH miners HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:37:54 2018 No.9051870

>>9051468
The network topology of LN will match the economic spending patterns of the world. You think USD exchanges don't have that same pattern? Decentralization does NOT mean the right hand side is required, that would be a strange anomaly if it were that way actually. Bullshit argument KYS

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:38:54 2018 No.9051881 >>9051848 you know asicboost is being used right now on BTC, right? and it's endorsed by blockstream? 'no, that's bullshit!' you say. lulz: see halong mining and slushpool. yet another example of corecuks being fooled by core propaganda.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:38:57 2018 No.9051883 File: 445 KB, 2048x2310, FullNodeTopology_BTC_vs_BCH.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9051633 Thank you for pastaing my post anon, here is the picture that is supposed to be attached with it though, remember it next time please

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:40:26 2018 No.9051895 >>9051633 This is correct

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:40:41 2018 No.9051899 >>9051653 Doesn’t change the fact it’s true and no one ever disputes it or even tries

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:40:42 2018 No.9051900 >>9051883 Please zoom in and read the text and notice how the literal vast majority of BCH full nodes are ran on Alibaba servers, and AWS servers. BCH is bullshit

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:41:15 2018 No.9051905 >>9051633 bcash tho

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:41:46 2018 No.9051911 >>9051084 LN has already been BTFOd by Vitalik. I see no reason for BTC to exist anymore, if they have no scaling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:42:38 2018 No.9051920 >>9051792 I own equal amounts of both and think bcash had more problems. Both will ultimately be replaced.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:45:35 2018 No.9051954

>>9051468
Still spealing this garbage and posting that retarded image.

LN is none of those images, because LN nodes form a graph of arbitrary nodes which can have an arbitrary number of edges to any other nodes.

LN won't look like the right graph because the right graph is one where every node has between 2 and 5 edges. There's no restriction to the edges LN nodes have, and it is initially zero. A LN can open an arbitrary number of edges to any arbitrary node who accepts.

The images on the left show a couple of graphs where some "regular" node can only connect directly to a "masternode", and can't connect directly to other peers. Again, fails to be like LN because there's no such limit in LN. LN is nothing like either of these images, because everyone can be a "masternode".

And non-mining nodes do "contribute" to the network, in the fact that they let you, as a merchant, decide which is the "right" chain you want to accept your payments on. If you think merchants should "just leave it up to the miners" to decide that for them, you've been cucked beyond belief by cashies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:46:26 2018 No.9051960 File: 604 KB, 1600x1200, Sega Bitcoin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9051883

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:48:48 2018 No.9051979

>>9051731
>>9051754
absolutely pathetic. Here a 140 iq will put you mongrels in your place for free.
>>9051633
The entire jihan conspiracy implies he had a crystal ball to determine there would be a 2x backlash. Either that or the no2x movement was a falseflag, both of which are completely fucking retarded ideas. Miners are incentivized by price and nothing else.

>bcash cannot utilize lightning because they don't have segwit and I mean it!!! please don't believe them
lol it's a malleability fix and nothing more. Getting LN to work on bch is 1000000x easier than getting the LN to work as promised. Here's a video on LN if you really give a shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFZOrtlQXWc&t
>0conf and higher blocksize lowers security for a speed increase
If your running a node 0conf is fine, it's also completely voluntary and is being worked on. Double spends are very unreliable, there's an entire talk Craig did on this. Blocksize on the other hand affects user run nodes that have no say in the consensus mechanism and add nothing to censorship resistance.
>please god don't listen to them I have no arguments whatsoever but just trust me
This is exactly what happens when your arguments are formed in censored environments. You have absolutely nothing of substance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:50:45 2018 No.9051998 >>9051899 >first word is bcash If you want to even start talking about this you need to accept Bitcoin Cash is a Bitcoin fork called Bitcoin Cash and not BCash. That's why we (all) ignore you. >also discussing the pasta makes me lose too much time

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:52:27 2018 No.9052015 >>9051899 it's not worth my time to respond to this shitty pasta every single time you post it jesus christ

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:53:00 2018 No.9052020

>>9051998
Not calling it bcash would imply that your fraudulent claims to being "the real bitcoin" have any ground.

Everyone should actively avoid using the Bitcoin name when referring to Bcash to avoid confusing newcomers who have obviously come online to buy actual Bitcoin and not your fucking junk copy.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:55:08 2018 No.9052043

>>9051954
>i choose this chain over here
>oh it has no miners well that's that then
The miners will not financially ruin themselves over contention. S2X is a perfect example of this. Deciding the chain doesn't decide consensus ruling. Users also have very little financial incentive to become "masternodes".

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:58:10 2018 No.9052069

>>9052020
some real mental gymnastics coming out from you here.
Just call it Bitcoin Cash, as is its name, according to the community and also the developers of the coin. An outsider, like you, has the least right to name it and will only make you look the more arrogant.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:58:40 2018 No.9052072 >>9052020 see? you don't want to accept reality. you're in denial/anger phase.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:59:31 2018 No.9052078 >>9051883 these are only ABC nodes, what about Bitcoin xt and classic?

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 04:59:34 2018 No.9052079

>>9052043
Being able to verify you've received payments without relying on a third party is no an incentive?

In a miner-only system, the miners decide the protocol rules, because they can collude to include blocks that would otherwise be invalid.

In a system where merchants run their own nodes, the miners wouldn't take such risks because they'd lose their place on the chain which actually has people using it for purchases.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 05:00:41 2018 No.9052089 >>9051501 shhhh, delete this

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 05:02:03 2018 No.9052099 >>9052072 reality: BCash hard forked from Bitcoin, but people are claiming it's the real Bitcoin. denial: BCash is the real bitcoin. (lol)

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 05:02:04 2018 No.9052100 Corecucks reek of desperation

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 05:02:31 2018 No.9052103 >>9051754 you just described 99% of all bcash shilling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 05:02:54 2018 No.9052107 >>9052043 >Bitmain will not financially ruin themselves over contention ftsfy

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 05:03:32 2018 No.9052110 >>9052100 hey it's the corecuck meme! COREKEK COREKEK... checkmate!

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 05:10:47 2018 No.9052195

>>9052079
>Being able to verify you've received payments without relying on a third party is no an incentive?
On LN? Why? If your talking about the mainchain as a regular user there's no need. As a merchant it's only desired at the moment if you take 0conf so you can broadcast the transaction asap.
>In a miner-only system, the miners decide the protocol rules, because they can collude to include blocks that would otherwise be invalid.
nullifying the value of the chain, in reality the block would be rejected by the other miners. You fail to realize btc is already a miner only system, it's pow.
>In a system where merchants run their own nodes, the miners wouldn't take such risks because they'd lose their place on the chain which actually has people using it for purchases.
Merchants run nodes on bch and will continue to do so as long as it's profitable which isn't changing anytime soon thanks to moores law. I'm trying to understand the rest of your argument but it just makes no sense. It's like your implying merchants are deciding consensus now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 05:21:10 2018 No.9052280 File: 165 KB, 1600x1068, 837B77EF-C97F-4C64-BD4D-603760A8C91A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when 1 company headquartered in Beijing China has complete control over your crypto bcash >who gives a fuck about that riiiiiiight

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 05:21:54 2018 No.9052288 >>9052015 Copy paste my reply then, someone else could do it better but it's definitely good enough.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 05:22:40 2018 No.9052299

>>9052069
>>9052072
>>9052100
Bcashie projection levels off the fucking charts
If bcash is going to implement a tx malleability fix for lightening and adopt lightening whats even the fucking point of the fork faggots. Segwit did increase blocksize and the team has even stated 8mb is not out of the question. If your going to fork steal the bitcoin name and copy all of its innovations what is the point besides a straight cash grab by jihan and co?

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 05:28:00 2018 No.9052355

>>9052195
>As a merchant it's only desired at the moment if you take 0conf so you can broadcast the transaction asap.
No it's not. If you're not running a full node, you're receiving information that you can't validate from some third-party. The third party may not tell you the truth. Running a full node is the way you can verify a payment has been received without relying on third parties.

>nullifying the value of the chain, in reality the block would be rejected by the other miners. You fail to realize btc is already a miner only system, it's pow.
As I said, miners could collude to include "invalid" blocks, via some miner-activated-hard-fork. If you have no other users validating blocks, this will happen without anyone even noticing, as long as their wallet software isn't affected.

>Merchants run nodes on bch and will continue to do so as long as it's profitable which isn't changing anytime soon thanks to moores law.
At 8mb, it's not a problem. You're not going to reach global scale because Moore's law will get in your way.

>It's like your implying merchants are deciding consensus now.
A merchant decides what is the right consensus for himself. He isn't verifying on for or on behalf of others. He verifies the network his payments are paid over, so as to make sure he's actually receiving funds, and not just being told by someone else that he has received them.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 05:43:06 2018 No.9052500

>>9052355
If the the third party is giving you false information then the entire network is compromised. This is a 0 conf problem, your stance implies everyone has to run their own node. Merchants choose to run nodes and it is smart for them to do so, I don't disagree.
>miners colluding
You can watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpWt2RKTTjQ your stance seems to be anti pow not anti bch.

I'm interested to see how far moores law can go but we know onchain scaling really hasn't been explored before. We know btc and bch nodes aren't even multi core cpu compatible and things like xthin and possibly sharding can be introduced. https://news.bitcoin.com/7-million-transactions-a-second-research-paper-declares-1tb-blocks-feasible/

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 05:46:40 2018 No.9052521 >>9052355 Why does anyone need a full node when SPV nodes exist

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 06:42:44 2018 No.9052989
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>>9051883
stop posting this outdated image from december

the site from which it was generated is not even online anymore. because the image was probably not even accurate in december

it is most certainly completely false right now and its sad that people are still posting it. if anything you it goes to show those people refuse to listen to reason

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 07:15:04 2018 No.9053305 Just a reminder that Binance a leading altcoin exchange has a lot of BCH pairs next exchanges will follow ther lead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 07:21:34 2018 No.9053371 File: 17 KB, 453x604, 1475603478001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9052079 Do you even follow BCH development? It'll have chain commitment this year which will mean you could verify your own tx's using your mobile phone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 07:22:11 2018 No.9053379 File: 647 KB, 4096x4096, IMG_20180419_193314.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9051084 Are you mentally challenged

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 07:25:36 2018 No.9053404 >>9051249 I think OP might be posting this ironically to make the exact case you did out loud in a subtle way. If so, well played OP, I'll be expecting my "Shut up, dumb core shill." in the mail.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 07:29:17 2018 No.9053435

>>9051792
Makes you think about all those concern trolls talking about "the confusion between BCH and BTC and how people are buying the wrong coin!". Fuckin A right they are, just mostly in the opposite way than that which the concern troll is attempting to persuade you.

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