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9002611 No.9002611 [Reply] [Original]

who /depression/ here?
It's basically dominating every aspect of life. the reason I have some money to put into crypto as I barely go out, but also the reason I didn't put any money in / mine bitcoin or dogecoin when they were shillled on 4chan a couple of years ago.
The only reason I want to make it is so I can drink myself to death without worrying about finances desu

>> No.9002714

I’m Russian and I’ve wanted to kill myself since I was born.

>> No.9002725

youre fucked. go outside there is more to life than money

>> No.9002753

>>9002725

B-But the outside world costs money

>> No.9002758

If you have money and you still can't figure out how to make something of your life you're a fucking pathetic loser equivalent to a hobo who won the lottery and immediately blew it all on crack.
KYS

>> No.9002790

>tfw started getting weird skin rashes all over your body
>start thinking maybe its cancer
>feel relief

>> No.9002794

I feel you anon
but I'm poor

>> No.9002802

Tianeptine sulfate 25mg
Healthy sleep schedule
Gym 5 days/week, even something minor

>> No.9002805

>>9002753
This. Everything costs money to have fun nowadays.
Joining a club? Costs money. Starting a new hobby? Costs money. Travelling to another country? Costs money. Even to have internet costs money. The only way to afford all that is to live with your parents if you are still young or be a wagecuck which might worsen the depression

>> No.9002807

>>9002714
I'm also of russian origin. seems like it's in russian genes to be miserable

>> No.9002853

I went and got my testosterone checked and it was practically zero. The very first testosterone shot made me go from suicidal 24/7 to the happiest person in the universe.

I thought I was dying. Got heart workup, perfectly normal heart. Thought I might have some kind of liver disease, nope. Diabetes? Yeah right. No. "It must be my thyroid!" No, thyroid is perfect.

I feel sheer joy and happiness bursting from every atom in my body. It's funny to think that as little as two weeks ago, I was considering offing myself, but I simply can't because my kids need a father. It was all just a dream - all the suffering. It wasn't real, from my new perspective.

Swallow your pride and get tested. It has nothing to do with "lol I love to fuck, pretty sure testosterone is just fine buddy, fuck out of here"

Get tested or do not. It makes no difference to me. It feels like I'm cumming 24/7. I actually ENJOY going to my fucked up job now. I actually can't get upset about anything.

>> No.9002855

>>9002611
Go out, go for a walk, whatever, turn off your computer and don't turn it back on ever. Go see a psychiatrist.
I was like you a few years ago. It can get better but only you can make things better.

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>>9002853
I'll have what that gentleman's having.

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9002922

LINK is intrinsically worthless. Node operators can be paid in existing cryptocurrencies. Just look at the testnet right now, it only accepts ETH instead of LINK lmao. It means that ETH can easily be substituted for it, that is, if someone wants to fork the token to accept ETH (an established cryptocurrency instead of some fucking ERC20 token made with a two-man team), LINK is basically useless. That is besides the fact that everything LINK aims to do can be easily done by cryptographically signing the data from the API source.
>muh next ETH

Uh oh, pissed stinker incoming HAHA...

>> No.9002932

>>9002714
>>9002807
пoчeмy гpycтный? Pyccкиe дeвyшки кpacивы ))

>> No.9002939

>>9002853
Can you post your numbers?

I've been wanting my dad to get checked.

>> No.9002942

Ketamine 1 or 2 times a week, microdose lsd 1 or 2 times a week, proper supplements b complex, vit d, magnesium. Do this anon

>> No.9002958

>>9002853
get my blood test results back in 2 days, im unironically hoping that my test is low as fuck so that i can get prescribed trt

>> No.9002964

OP----- no joke..... do a 3day cold pressed juice cleanse. No food. And you'll feel like a brand new person by day 3.

You have toxins built up in your body... and your body spends so much energy digesting food each day that it doesn't have the energy to fix other things ailing.

Just do it and trust me and you'll feel incredible after 3 days and will totally change your mood.

>> No.9002975

>>9002958
Read my post above. Don't take Jew drugs.

>> No.9002989

>>9002611
my last hope is making it with crypto, killing myself if it doesn't work out

>> No.9003017

>>9002611
Also if you want to die. Don't kill yourself. Go out and sexually assault some roasties get thrown in jail and then let some black person kill you in there instead. That would be the 4chan way to go

>> No.9003023

>>9002611
>put any money in / mine bitcoin or dogecoin when they were shillled on 4chan a couple of years ago.

iktf, i knew about btc in 2012 when i was in high school buying things off the silk road from time to time but never cared about btc because of all of the "this shits a bubble, it'll be gone soon, it'll never succeed, people will never see it as worth anything" etc. etc. and i remember checking one day and seeing my ~$8-10 worth of btc going to like $80 bucks in the space of a week or a month and being like "holy fuck, now i can buy more drugs hehe" broke high school kid who was more into drugs than money. stopped messing around with dark net markets after silk road got fucked and mt gox got fucked, didnt know how haywire it had gone until the end of last year when all of the normie media started going nuts

i also clicked on /biz/ a year or two back seeing eth being shilled and looking ethereum up and being like "huh that looks cool" but not investing because i was scared to lose any money. i feel like normies still feel that way.

now im fucking obsessed with crypto. from what i can tell we're still in a phase where big money is just getting in. if you're investing right now, you're getting in the next big run up. this market still has years until it matures and big institutional money is investing in the same type of shit we're investing in now which is insanely exciting.

we still have a chance to make a lot of money OP.

>> No.9003034

>>9002975
>says not to take testosterone
>says to instead drink juice
hard pass

>> No.9003093

I'm glad I didn't get into bitcoin back in the day when at 8$---20$---- or 50$.

If I threw 5k in when it was 8 bucks I would have surely sold at like 100$... nice gains? Sure. But then to see it go to 20k? Then I'd really off myself... cuz then I would have realized that I threw away lottery tickets...

Now that would really make me want to off myself

>> No.9003125

>>9003034
Listen dude... when you do a juice cleanse for 3 days... by the end of day 2 you feel like a million bucks. You literally wake up in the morning and it's like it's the middle of the day. You don't know the power of the body healing itself when you give it stuff meant for it to have.

And I'm not some faggot hippy either. I've done like 7 of them in the last 3 years. You go from meh to literally super happy when you do them

>> No.9003144

>>9003093
I uh, I... bought back in 2011 at $1 and sold at $20...

>> No.9003163

>>9002853
this is what I felt like when I went on a 2 months nofap streak

>> No.9003173

>>9002853
>I went and got my testosterone checked and it was practically zero. The very first testosterone shot made me go from suicidal 24/7 to the happiest person in the universe.
Were you a squishy pussy with no muscle or did you have a normal build?

>> No.9003176

>>9002989
How would that help? Didn't help me.

>> No.9003207

>>9003144
at least you made some money. when did you buy back in lad

>> No.9003231

>>9002611
Get you shit together ASAP stop being weak minded zombie don't you get it this is what (((they))) want

>> No.9003250

>>9002802
>Tianeptine sulfate 25mg
Hell fucking no. Stay away from that shit. Extremely addictive. There's a reason it was discontinued as a medication.

>> No.9003260

>>9003250
>Hell fucking no. Stay away from that shit. Extremely addictive. There's a reason it was discontinued as a medication.
it wasn't discontinued lol, and it's not particularly addictive, no more so than a cup of coffee unless you start taking it like candy

babby's first drug?

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>>9002611
I'm so depressed i can't even express my situation in this thread it's so fucking complicated...

>> No.9003266

>>9002611
depression doesn't exist, it's all laziness, by the way this was scientifically proven

>> No.9003283

>>9002989
>>9003176
>>9002725
>>9002853

everything mentioned in this thread is part of the puzzle of making it.

get healthy physically -> get healthy financially -> use that physical energy to meet fun people (qt grils) -> use your wealth to do fun things with fun people -> reinvest modest % of that wealth back into self improvement (take a certification, pick up a new skill or hobby that can make you more money in the long run, etc. get on the cutting edge of your field/hobbies and get purpose in your life)


it's all there to do lads its like the nike commercials

>> No.9003285

I have been depressed and suicidal pretty much on and off my entire fucking life. I have never truly lived. I'm 25 and unresolved childhood traumas, truly psychologically cucked.

>> No.9003288

>>9002805
Get a job like the rest of us you snivelling little shit

Love, mom

>> No.9003292

>>9003231
nah <<<they>>> won't get any shekel from me. I've sworn never to marry, spend any money on consumerism, pay to a doctor etc.
another reason I hope crypto takes off so those fat wallet pig bankers get blown out

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>>9002964
>juice fast
>not a hard dry fast
SOYBOY
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>> No.9003366

Guys its easy, ketamine will rip u out of even the darkest depression. It helps alot to remind yourself what its like to feel good/normal

>> No.9003368

>>9002989
Same here

>> No.9003370

>>9003266
depression is so common in modern society because people don't have close relationships, don't get outside and get natural light, don't sleep enough or when they do sleep the quality isn't there, they bombard their brains+bodies with junk food and bombard their brains with smartphones and computers and get distracted and obsessed with overstimulation. plus stressors we don't see that can add to brain disorders like heavy metal toxicity, polluted air, food, and water causing biological stress and not letting our bodies heal from the entire stress picture.

its a perfect storm of getting JUSted, thats why its so common to be a lazy depressed millennial with a sad outlook on life. this generational cohort has so much going against it biologically and spiritually.

>> No.9003374

>>9003285
>I have never truly lived
I feel you there man. I try to stay happy, but looking over my life it's pretty fucking boring. I'm just a neet who lives at home working minimum wage, never had a gf. Don't really have any fond high school memories. Turning 24 in half a year. That's why I've gone all in on crypto, I have nothing to lose. I only ever had 1k in my bank account before this shit anyways. Might as well put every penny I make in and pray for a change. Make it or break it. I'll see you on the other side.

>> No.9003389

>>9003283
Achievement don't do anything to me, I don't understand people who can find meaning in this. I don't enjoy meeting people and rarely connect to people as well. To be completely honest, I did some (quite a lot, actually) mushrooms some time ago and my past system of values doesn't make any sense to me anymore. Although I want to do something good for people in general, probably the only thing that may have some meaning right now, but it's pretty hard to figure out what exactly to do.

>> No.9003446

>>9003389
>and my past system of values doesn't make any sense to me anymore

what's your new system of values?

>Although I want to do something good for people in general

got to get yourself in order long before you can do things for the people around you 2bh

>> No.9003478

>>9003250
>>9003260
To be clear, I am recommending tianeptine sulfate, which is a slow release form. Tianeptine sodium is harder to come by now precisely because it was addictive to weak-minded retards. Sulfate is quite safe and will change your life if you use it sensibly. 25mg daily.

>> No.9003528

ive been suicidal for as long as i can remember. i dont think it ever goes away especially now so many people i knew have killed themselves. feels like its just a matter of time.

i have a fat LINK and WAN stack though so maybe good things will come

>> No.9003542

>>9003263
your problems are probably mostly in your head

>> No.9003552

>>9003446
>what's your new system of values?
I wish I knew. I'm not that depressed, more confused and lost, like what is even going on?

>got to get yourself in order long before you can do things for the people around you 2bh
Staying fit, eating healthy, meditating, all that stuff, have some good friends, although we're drifting away, but probably will stay in touch for the rest of our lives.

>> No.9003553

>>9003366
>ketamine
isn't that for horses?

>> No.9003569

Eat a fruit based diet and u wont be depressed. Its impossible to be depressed if youre living on fruit

>> No.9003580

>>9003569
OP isn't a fruit bat
this thread is full of retarded bullshit

>> No.9003631

>>9002714
Same here

>> No.9003648

>>9003553
Yes. Don't listen to the ketamine shill, that shit shrinks your bladder and fucks you up, look forward to needing a piss every 5 minutes after a few years of use. Since this thread is about depression I'll chime in. The best ways to alleviate depression are:
Raise you test levels (as another anon said)
Cold showers
Fasting
Fresh air and sunlight
Nofap/noporn
Avoid junk food and excessive internet browsing
Meditation
Pranayama

>> No.9003691

>>9003552
yeah just try to define what you think a "good life" would be and try to go after that, think thats all anyone can do unless they're singularly driven and autistic honestly. at least you're keeping yourself healthy and trying to keep yourself financially healthy which is more than most can say

>> No.9003699

>>9003648
ketamine is one of the safest drugs they literally use it on children. U will only get bladder issues if u are a fiend with high tolerance doing it everyday forong periods of time. Practice harm reduction, never do it two days in a row, if u start building tolerance stop for abit, takr supplments to prevent bladder issues like cranberrys

>> No.9003745

>>9003125
Just do a 3 day water fast. The euphoria you feel is norepinephrine, and is part of the process of ketosis. Juice diets are a meme and the only thing you need to keep in check while fasting are, unironically, electrolytes.


As for low t, hit the gym and change your diet first before you start supplementing. Lack of activity and a shitty diet naturally mean low as fuck t. Nothing wrong with supplements, but your body might be fucked without it if you stopped and never fixed the underlying problem.

>> No.9003765

>>9003648
>Cold showers

cold showers are underrated, ive been doing them before bed and when you're under that cold water you feel insanely motivated and charged up/alive. then a bit after you're done you feel like getting to sleep. great pre bed habit that i like.

>> No.9003787

>>9003374
I'm not rich so I'm no great source of information but everything I've heard is always that money does that buy happiness. I mean that's pretty obvious. So if you do make it from crypto, I wouldn't expect life fulfillment from your gains. But then do try to find something that makes you happy or do things for others if that makes you happy as well. I hope you make it in all aspects, anon.

Same for everyone else in this thread. I'm dealing with some shit right now I just can't get figured out health wise. It's probably just me needing to take a good hard look at my eating habits and change that shit up. Gl all

>> No.9003788

>>9003288
>get job
>doesn't have time to do all the things I mentioned above

Anyway, I wasn't complaining and I don't need to wagecuck in order to earn money

>> No.9003798

>>9003691
Thanks

>> No.9003806

>>9003765
I do them every morning, it gets me ready for the day. I always feel weak and tired after taking a hot shower but after a cold one I feel energetic and alive

>> No.9003897

>>9002611

Work out you fucking faggot.

If you literally want to die then work out until your so exhausted you think you might.

If you work hard enough you'll be too tired to feel depressed.

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>>9002611
Depression fucks with your dopamine levels. Dopamine is needed to be both happy and motivated.
Like with any addiction, you can recover by depriving yourself of whatever it is you are addicted to. Depression is often low dopamine sensitivity caused by too much 'un-natural' dopamine stimulation: porn (thousands of different nude women at your fingertips), alcohol, social media, gaming, weed, gambling (yes, cryptos will cause depression), ...
The thing is, if you deprive yourself of this, it will get worse for a while until it starts to get better. Very hard to get through this phase. It is the same with nofap. After few weeks/months it will suddenly get better and better until life is fucking amazing again. So amazing that you will have a smile on your face most of the time and you are actually interested in your hobbies again.

>> No.9004255

After a series of failed projects I concluded hard work is a meme, in order for something to work out / succeed (most of the time it's about social success i/e a lot of people buying / using your junk) something has to 'click' in reality. in other words you must have lady luck on your side. most people don't and therefore live a life of frustration and mediocrity

>> No.9004344

>>9004255

You're a loser. This is a loser attitude. Enjoy amounting to nothing, loser.

>> No.9004384

>>9002611
I am 24 and depressed but can cope. If I dont make it ill kms

>> No.9004457

>>9004344
I certainly am. maybe one day I'll get lucky (remember what board we're on), and rich.
also this board is 18+ kid

>> No.9004504

>>9004457

Luck has very little to do with drive. Luck will put whatever ambitions you have into the stratosphere. It's not going to do anything to a loser who doesn't even have ambitions.

>> No.9004531

>>9004344
Wow, what a positive force. Truly, a shining beacon, and a great example for us to live up to. Do you know what survivorship bias is?

>> No.9004567

>>9004531

I know you're a loser. Losers lose without even trying. This is the definition of loser mentality.

>> No.9004576

>>9003250
Not if taken as usually perscribed.
Sodium salt(the more addictive one if you will) helped me during a real deep depression period a couple of months ago and is the reason why I'm still alive but I wasn't taking it like some retard @ 1 gram a day, but regular 12.5mg 3x a day.
It even tasted good to me and I had no euphoria or any other freaking high type symptoms, I haven't even noticed that it was helping me for a week or so. I no longer take it and I just stopped taking it with no adverse effects.
Everything can be addictive to people who don't have self control

>> No.9004580

>>9004255
there are plenty of hard workers who have tried to make things happen, we have a built in bias because we see all of these "hard workers" succeed but even every successful person has a mountain of failures in their past and probably in their future. not everything gets knocked out of the park.

theres an order of operations in the chances of succeeding at anything and luck can definitely be an x-factor that is hard to quantify that can make a huge difference in either direction of success or failure... there are also things that will always work like good ideas and the ability to execute on good ideas. not every idea is a great idea and not everyone has the mentality or the tools to execute on the ideas which sucks.

>> No.9004618

>>9004567
Whatever man. I have a Master's, work out 5 days a week, eat low-carb, own a startup, a plethora of different investment vehicles, my own apartment for 6 years, and a low maintenance girlfriend.

Yeah. Totally no drive and ambition. If only I was just like you bro ;)

>> No.9004659

>>9002611
I'm also depressed.

>> No.9004678

>>9004255
As much as I don't want to, I have to agree with your statement anon.

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>>9002611
I've battled depression for 10+ years and am largely over it except for some of the lingering physical aspects, so I'm entitled to say what I'm about to say, which is; embrace the suffering and overcome it rather than trying to escape it. Take refuge in the word of the Lord Jesus Christ, have faith, and you will make it.

http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/page5.html

>> No.9004771

>>9004618

Literally none of that matters if you have a self-defeatist attitude like that.

You come into this world with nothing and you leave with nothing. When you're lying down trying to sleep and you're left with your thoughts; that's you. That's who you are.


A loser.

>> No.9004884

>>9004771
So much projection.

>> No.9004935

>>9004884

>Being this delusional

Whatever you say man. Here's some easy reading material that might act as a wake up call.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Loser+mentality

>> No.9004973

>>9003949
>provides pasta with reasonable advice for hard-rebooting one's habits, both mentally and physically
>it's not trolling or an easy answer, so no replies
Typical day on 4chan. Speaking from experience, this approach to changing your habits and behavior works.
Of course, my experience involved several years in prison. Still, there's something to be said for no longer caring about shitting, showering, or sleeping around total strangers.

>> No.9004974

>>9004935
Let go. Kill that ego.

>> No.9005009

>>9003283
The thing is you don't need money to do those things and many of the people are using crypto as a getaway from reality that they themselves are in control of what they do in life and not the money itself. I guarantee you will still feel the same after you have made it with crypto maybe even worse as you goal of "making it" in life is complete and there is no other goals for you to compete.

>> No.9005081

>>9004973
desu there's another level of depression where you see everything is meaningless, "self-improvment" is a meme (basically you're trying to get social approval which itself is bullshit), that kind of advice doesn't work there, that's more for "stuck in a rot" situations

>> No.9005114

>>9004974

No u.

>> No.9005406

>>9005081
the "everything is meaningless" and hopelessness is 120% what I was talking about. this is the brain not responding to dopamine correctly. not wanting to get out of bed, not really wanting to eat much, not wanting to go out of home, not wanting to talk to people, even stuff like 100+ steam games turning boring, no hope for future, sense of smell at 20% (smell doesn't ever evoke memories or feelings),...

this is very well reversible, does take time, effort and patience though. it really doesn't feel like its possible to get your old self back anymore, but that is just your depressed brain fucking lying to you

for those who really don't believe me or pussies who can't get themselves to endure dopamine deprived hell for 2-3 months, there is also an easier (but maybe riskier) way with ketamine/LSD/mushrooms. for some, these have helped to cure depression in just one trip. reddit has a lot of info/stories on this

>> No.9005431

>>9002611
depression is the nature of capitalism

the issue with crapitalism is the crapitalist is preoccupied with offloading the burden of enslavement onto the next goy. the entire society is built on a pyramid of offloading enslavement onto someone else.

instead of having stable shelter with no risk, the crapitalist allocates risk into living necessities (shelter, food, etc) that is burdened onto the renter. the entire system is preoccupied by transferring risk to others.

the communist model does not allocate risk into living necessities (shelter etc..) and guarantees a stable shelter, food, and frees the population from preoccupation of risk and fear.

with the emancipation from preoccupation of risk allocation of the crapitalist system, the communist population focuses on solving space colonisation and real world issues, instead of the basic shelter issues

>> No.9005543

>>9005081
i am a country salesman. i am offering you two countries to choose from:

Option A:
>expensive (shit quality) housing at risk of bubbles
>expensive (poojeet quality) medical care
>expensive (yiddish quality) education
>unstable jobs that are hard to come by where you will be replaced by poojeet and pablo
>retirement at 75 that barely covers costs
>unstable speculative-bubble based economy
>houses that you never own cos mortgage/property taxes
>anti-family social system that produces broken families and declining population
>open immigration to replace you

Option B:
>free quality housing
>free quality education
>free quality medical care
>guaranteed jobs
>guaranteed pension at 50 that covers all costs and allows you to live comfortably
>traditional family-oriented society that promotes family and reproduction
>closed immigration (Iron Curtain) not allowing foreigners to replace you


so which will you move to?