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Currently in Pre-market

>Game
http://www.marketwatch.com/game/biz-game-/
Password: merchant

>Trading Hours
Monday - Friday
0930 - 1600 EST
1430 - 2100 UTC

>Educate yourself
http://www.investopedia.com/university/stocks/

>Previous threads
http://archive.foolz.us/_/search/boards/biz.dev.foolz/text/Password%20%3A%20merchant%20/type/op/

Useful Links:
>Stock Price Charts
https://www.google.com/finance
http://finance.yahoo.com/
>Investing Wiki
http://www.investopedia.com/
>Advanced Graphics, Visuals, etc.
http://finviz.com/
http://finviz.com/map3d.ashx
http://stockcharts.com/
>Twitter mock up for Stocks (It's good)
http://stocktwits.com/

>Joke of the day
Wipe OP's Ranking

>> No.89727

HILARIO WHAT DID YOU TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAADE

>> No.89728

So out of ESRX, HPQ and PCLN which ones look to beat expectations in the upcoming ER?

>> No.89736

Do I use limit or stop when buying to cover on a short?

>> No.89738

>>89728

if you are confident their growth is over, short them

>> No.89741

Arbitrage is now working. Might want to wake up at 10:30 to determine what arbitrage path will pull away on the TVIX. Riding short has been working today.

>> No.89777

>>89728
Got an arbitrage position on HPQ. Once the earnings report comes out I might go with appropriate actions.

>> No.89799

>>89777
>tfw my Twitter short isn't going anywhere....

Damn it's been trading in this 20 cent range for an hour now

>> No.89817

>mfw I scoop up cheap FB June calls

Thank you panic sellers.

>> No.89831

Glad you're a /biz/raeli now Wipe.

Would you long or short Facebook? Do you think the whole startup thing is Dotcom 2.0 and, if so, when will it burst? My theory is the release and failure of Google Glass will cause a major downswing for app startups.

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>>89799


fslr is jerking me around so much, i can't even trade it anymore. I just sit here and watch the meth addled traders go hog wild pushing the price up and down 2% within a few hours.

>> No.89839

>>89817
Me too brah.

Hopefully amd fluctuates again so I can make money.

>> No.89843

what's a good long term investment stock, aside from ETFs. Right now I got DDD making me some money but is it a good long term buy?

>> No.89845

>>89831
In oversold territory for sure.. Wondering if today is forming a hangman. What was the reason for the gap up?

>> No.89846

Fellow biz-nessman, I'd like to prompt a question, is there any way to keep track of the daily economic highlight news so that one may know where to invest next?

Obviously not asking for spoonfeeding on 'EVERYONE BUY X', but rather 'Y company has decided to do Z, etc etc' and then work my strategy from there..

>> No.89857

>>89843
buy defense stocks

war and conflict will never fail you

>> No.89859

>>89846
>keep track of the daily economic highlight news
>so that one may know where to invest next?

News is noise anon.

>> No.89862

>>89846
You could always lurk stocktwits. But it's a lot like 4chan where you have to filter out a lot of shit and noise to get to the good stuff..

http://stocktwits.com/Always_Wipe

This is my profile

>> No.89875

>>89846
I actually use the MW site not just for the game but also for general money news. Just ignore all the CNBC-tier cheerleading. I also keep a couple of twitter feeds going through the day, favorite being ZH. WashPost, Bloomberg, Reuters, etc. Twitter is best for breaking news, which is important to follow.

>> No.89881

>>89845

You didn't hear yet? FB bought WhatsApp for ~$19b.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2014/02/19/whatsapp-founders-become-billionaires-in-19-billion-deal-with-facebook/

>> No.89898

>>89881
Ah I just saw the news but I thought that was today?

>> No.89889

>>89881
but that caused FB to tank.

>> No.89891

>>89857
they all look really high and at their peak, I don't know

>> No.89900

>>89831
>Let me put this into perspective

FB has 1/5 of Google search queries without even trying. FB even has every detail information regarding the "searcher" and can do a kind of target advertisement that google can't come close to replicate.

It has sensitive information of billions of users world wide. Just think what politicians can do with these kind of information. Hell, if allowed countries like China is probably willing to buy FB outright just to feed its communist propaganda.

Now Facebook even knows what you chat or talk with on mobile, they can throw advertisements at you the minute you have money with exactly the type of thing you wanted to buy.

>> No.89908

>>89846
The other anons are right. Tap into the mood more than the news. Emotions drive the stocks. news is after the fact usually. keep in mind who is spoon feeding you the information. Big corporations.

>> No.89916

>>89859
To a point idiot. Trading the news is stupid but keeping track of it makes long term sense.

>> No.89920

>>89916
Why?

>> No.89925

>>89920
buy on the rumor, sell on the news

>> No.89943

>>89839
Already sold the calls for a quick 20% gains. Bring on the volatility please!

>> No.89944

>>89900
Is there a china equivilant of facebook like Baidu to google?

>> No.89957

>>89944
lol yes, several

several twitter imitations too

>> No.89956

>>89944
>Is there a china equivilant of facebook like Baidu to google?

There is, but the name escapes me at the moment. It is heavily government censored and FB is not allowed in China

>> No.89962

>>89900

Not quite right. Google has tons of information that you don't actively share, such as which websites you visit, which FB only has to a certain degree. FB also requires active sharing of such information, which Google can work with passively shared data.

>>89889

Wasn't that basically because FB sold a fuckton of shares in the deal?

>> No.89970

>>89859
>>89862
>>89875
>>89908
Looks like I still got a lot to learn about all of this. Thank you guys.

>> No.89971

Oh, Cass Information Systems, baby, you are making all the right moves.

>> No.89967

>>89944

Closest I can think of is Sina Weibo.

>> No.89976

>>89962
>Wasn't that basically because FB sold a fuckton of shares in the deal?

Well, that and the price of the deal.

>> No.89978

>>89962
What I meant to say is they both have their advantages and disadvantages. FB advertisements can get very personalized

>> No.89985

One question, TSLA's rose in the las hour or so doesn't reflect in my portfolio, anyone else with this same problem?

>> No.89990

>>89978
Not to mention the metadata stored on the site. The CIA couldn't accomplish what FB has done

>> No.89987

>>89962
Just think.. Google is tracking us now on 4chan even not on the facebooks. hell they are probably tracking a lot of facebook's data too.

Facebook will never have super intelligent ai robot army.

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>>89985
I have a bigger problem. My gainz aren't reflecting in my net worth.

>> No.90006
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>>89705
1337 shares in Mariott-BIG GAINS

>> No.90012

So about shorts

Is there a way to buy them at a specific price?

Should I use stop?

>> No.90019

>>89987
get ghostery or something and turn those trackers off

>>89990
>implying FB isn't a CIA accomplishment

>> No.90033

>>90012
When shorting use stop to stop losses in case that the price of the share rises and use limit to set the maximum price you want to pay per share when covering

>> No.90038

tsla almost back at opening price, sitting at 213 and change

>> No.90039

>>89985
No, I have been floating SIRI trades often.

>> No.90035

POST DEM RANKS

>> No.90045

>>90035
211-Made $567.12 return and I've only started 2 minutes ago

>> No.90047

>>90035
I'm currently #4

>> No.90049
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90049

This was posted in last thread. Still laughing about it

>> No.90065

>>90039
No, I mean every other stock reflects fine for me, it's just TSLA

>> No.90059

>>90035
34

>> No.90060

>>90035
123

not joking

>> No.90082

>>90071
Why that many accounts?

>> No.90071

>>90035
I have 4 accounts, all in the top 20, with 3 of them in the top 10.

>> No.90077

349

Just waiting for my NQ audit, any day now...

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>>90019
ALrady did.

>go to yahoo

>see this pic related

>shit pants

they are watching you decide what stocks to buy.. Probably know who is buying what stocks and if they can be shaken out. the mm probably get this proprietary data tied to your id and past trading history and know how to shake you out of a position effectively.


Would explain why so many people constantly buy something and it immediately goes down then they sell at a loss. I hear people complain about this a lot. I wonder if someone is tracking there every move and fucking them over.

>> No.90092

>>90082
so he can buy tsla 4 times

>> No.90093

>>90035
Somewhere in the 400s again.

>> No.90084

>>90071
faggot

>> No.90105

>>90035
189.

Was around 400 yesterday.

Looking to earn modest returns of 1% per day.

>> No.90097

>>90082
Trying out different strategies.

>> No.90100

>>90071
>that level of autism

>> No.90107
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90107

>>90035
#12

6 yesterday..

2 the first day.

Fuck this is not going to be easy to stay top ten

>> No.90108

>>90092
Never touched tsla, 90% of the thread is retarded jumps on hype and misses out on bigger gains

>> No.90112

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/02/20/doug-kass-doubles-down-on-tesla-short/

This guy really must be buttfrustrated as it is rising yet again.

>> No.90116

LET US MINE YOU FOR DATA

>> No.90122

>>90035
370...
and I was top 15 the first day
But I'm recovering I swear

>> No.90123

>>90117
its a game bro, its like bragging about having 4 wowo characters level 999

>> No.90117

>>90100
>that jealousy

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90127

>>90065
>87 players holding Tesla in the game

>> No.90135
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90135

>>90108
Yeah, and mine is more experimenting with arbitrage deals. It's working nicely today playing around with short and long positions. It's on like Dankey Kang!

>>90107
It won't be easy. It's hard for me as I'm falling in rank despite being up over a percent now.

>> No.90136

>>90123
Says the guy taking it seriously and calling people autist lol

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90132

>>90112

In butthurt terms, doug, or anal rape?

>> No.90146

TWTR SHORT GETTING BTFO!!!!

>> No.90138

>>90035
373

Have not been trading today since I've been busy, and my long terms has been doing awful

I was 100 something yesterday...

>> No.90140

>>90123
that and it's unrealistic. use one or two accounts at most, and you'll actually learn something about strategies

going the scatter shot approach won't teach you anything

>> No.90157

>>90045
Update-177th, no brakes on the Tesla train

>> No.90149

>>90127
I only have 2 shares nigger, calm your titties. It's just in case they rise a lot so I can track TSLA easly

>> No.90159

>>90140
Yeah, mine's an experimental setup on one account. I'm trying various strategies and hope to break even.

>> No.90162

>>90132
Anal devastated. He shorted yesterday close to closing time and now is sorting again and it isn't really going down much.

>> No.90163

>>90157
Looking at GNC. What are people opinions

>> No.90166

>>90146
That's alright wipe.. just do the opposite of waht you are doing and you got this, you will be number one by monday

>> No.90172

>>90166
Haha its so hard to take this seriously when Im so far behind now..

>> No.90173

>tfw netapp bagholder

>> No.90175

>>90112
It's great being that rich, at some point TSLA will go down, all he has to do is keep on shorting until he reaches that point.

>> No.90177

>>90146
my hpq short is treating me nicely ;(

>> No.90179

>>90163
Take a look at JACK-my portfolio's shot up

>> No.90182

>>90157
It's easy to move up the ranks once one is within 4% of 100K.

>> No.90184

>>90175

It's still a shitty way to trade.

>> No.90187

>>90035
Rank 7 earlier, now 24. Waited on Tesla.

Don't know where to invest now, hate this Stagnation but don't wanna drop further

>>90108
Tesla took me from 200+ to 7

>> No.90188

>>90179
>JACK
overbought. Missed the gravy train

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>>90172
you know what you should do now that you are so far behind. Try to get as low as possible. I mean seriously try your hardest to loose money an honest effort.

>yfw you start going up

>> No.90194

buy american apparel now

restructuring coming

>http://quotes.wsj.com/APP?mod=DNH_S_cq

>> No.90205

>>90191
Trying to go all in on OSGIQ but it wont let me buy....


>>90194
Supporting shorts and ulta low v-neck styles...

>> No.90201

how do I start trading irl

how much capital would I need to start earning more than a min wage job just off of smart trades?

>> No.90203

>>90191
Current loser is "wipe OP" with an amazing total return of -$36,634.66

>> No.90207

>>90201

$100k min

not joking

>> No.90208

>>90194
>Below $2

>> No.90209

>>90191
That has happened.

>> No.90211

>>90201
more than min wage?

you should be able to pull that weekly with 5k-10k initially

>> No.90212

>>90201

if you cant calculate that number, you are not ready for irl trading

>> No.90213

>>90194
damn the fuck is going on with APP

>> No.90224

>>90212
im certainly not ready for irl trading

I want to get to the point where Im ready

>> No.90218

even tho I'm terrible at stocks I'm still better then wipe

it feels good

>> No.90219

>>90203
What was Wipe in that tanked so hard? Or was he trading options or shorting or some shit?

>> No.90220

>>90207
I'd say it's 50K if one is investing on margin.

>> No.90227

>>90201
>>90191
Nevermind. Buy is apparently delayed on my OSGIQ

>>90213
Who knows. They should be doing well.. They charge out the ass for their computers. Bought the wife a Macbook Pro 15' and the fucker cost 2600

>>90219
Got stuck holding a stock that initially made me 18K on the first day. Didn't know AH wasn't allowed

>>90218
<3

>> No.90232

>>90205
can't beat their t-shirts

so soft :DDD

>> No.90230

>>90208
damn

>> No.90231

>>90219
Shame the portfolios are private

>> No.90243

>not trading home depot

Wow. It saw pretty nice returns today after yesterday's drop.

>> No.90236

when to jump off jack gravy train

im +600 on it atm

>> No.90254

>>90227
app not appl wipehead

>> No.90248

>>90227
whats AH mean?

>> No.90262

>>90248
After hours. I put a limit sell order in that was hit in AH. But it didn't sell. Realized I couldn't change positions. Got stuck bagholding

>>90254
Fucking lol at that loss

>> No.90267

>>90248
after hours

>> No.90259

>trading with 100% of my size
>making money
this is fun.

>> No.90277

>>90272
I bought 3500 JACK, it went up 7 cents, and I got back out.

>> No.90278

>>90236
I'm staying on the ride for now, that depression is scaring me a bit though.

>> No.90272

>>90259

>not buying 3000 of one stock

>> No.90275

>>90262
>>90267
Thank you

>> No.90280

>>90254
Does anyone wear american apparel anymore?

>> No.90283

>>90278
just dropped to +300

>> No.90291

>>90280
i do

good for basics, although not surprised they aren't doing well. most people aren't going to pay 40-50 bucks for a plain tee

>> No.90290

>>90283
Have faith-I'm sure it'll continue to rise

>> No.90305

>>90299

I just lost $2k on APPL

>> No.90298

Ok guys short FB now, it'll go down a few cents, then buy back

QUICK
QUICK
QUICK

>> No.90299

To buy APPL or not to buy APPL

>> No.90301

>>90291
>Good for basics
Why anon? What basics?

>> No.90304

So what's with the hate for triple leveraged ETFs? Seems like a nice way to get leverage without having to muck with options. The decay with the variability comes in to play obviously, but if you get it right and it keeps running, what's the downside?

>> No.90310

>>90299
I bought a few minutes ago and I'm up $150.

>> No.90311

>>90304
usually not good long term

>> No.90312

>>90280
Hipsters...

>> No.90313

>>90301
basic items you build on for outfits

no homo

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>>90305

>> No.90308

>>90291
40-50 sounds like middle class market. Bad area to be in right now imo. you want to be high end or low end.

>> No.90309

>>90304
You buy the wrong side and get stuck bagholding

>> No.90319

>>90290
I hope we bet right friend

>> No.90320

>>90304
nothing

good short-term plays. shit's addicting

>> No.90316

Shorting TWTR ww@

>> No.90317

>>90280
>>90291
The American Apparel Tshirts that Woot uses are pretty nice.

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90329

>>90305
iJustine is pleased.

>> No.90337

>>90316
Nah, too late now. Half an hou ago maybe

>> No.90339

>>90313
I've very much into fashion but I get my basics (like vnecks and such) from Banana Republic and J Crew. American Apparel is going full fag IMO.

Also what do you other professionals wear? Just bought all of the colors of the new Canali pants and a few Burberry suits for England this summer.

>> No.90333

>>90317
yeah, i think a lot of their business comes from wholesales of their printable t-shirts. cozy ass shit

>> No.90345

>>90320
Yeah, good long term if you buy at a record low. Otherwise, it's short-term speculation at it's finest.

>> No.90347

>>90314

Shit happens. This whole game is a joke, I just rose 20 ranks as I typed this. If my stock goes up a dollar, I'm going to get to #1 on the leaderboard.

>> No.90348

Go on, play with your money, I'll win slowly.

>> No.90350

>>90337
I shorted right at their peak, feels good.

Probably getting out around 55.50 or so

>> No.90361

>>90319
I know it looks a bit volatile atm but it will continue in a positive trend

>> No.90362

>>90348
Goyim will not be pleased with this.

>> No.90363

>tfw u finally will stop luking krautchan for this kind of contwent

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>>90361

>> No.90374

>>90304
The problem.. ok. Say you buy it and it goes down or swings wildly and goes down.

You are fucked.

It's not like you can just hold it and wait for it to go back up to the level you bought. Because how percentages work in a leverage. It has to rebalanced every day. it is not a "real short" because your losses are capped. With a pure short you can loose an unlimited amount o money but you get back to where you started easily. In a 3x overeager buy in a stock like way. It goes down 5%. now you need to get back up 5.1% in the index it is tacking to get back your 5% loss. So every time it swings you are sinking further and further. On top of that there is huge fees for management and especially for borrowing that money.

>> No.90375

>>90363
welcome krautfriend

>> No.90390

>>89705
Getting rid of MAR, what are we all currently looking at?

>> No.90395

>>90390
i'm going to buy a trillion shares of app when my funds settle in my irl account

i've been violatin dat T3 rule

>> No.90410

>>90304
It's like buying stuff on margin. If you win... you win big. If you lose, you lose big.

>> No.90405

NFLX - thoughts? Just bought 20 shares. Hopefully 240-245 soon?

>> No.90416

>>90390
Short SIRI...

>> No.90419

US Women's Hockey beating Canada 2-0 in the finals

>canada

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90421

Any reason why the order price and stock price of TSLA are so different? Really screwing over my orders

>> No.90424

>>90419
>women's hockey

They can't even dunk

>> No.90431

>>90419
fuck you, it's 2-1 now nigga

>> No.90428

>>90421
Differences in the actual market when compared to your data.

Always use limit bruh.

>> No.90432

>>90419

>canada scores

dammit

>> No.90434

>>90421

always by with a limit

>> No.90440

>>90421
i see a 20 cent spread on my platform... not that crazy

>> No.90439

>not investing in mvis
it's like you hate free money

>> No.90441

>>89705
Anyone jumping on the PCLN gravy train?

>> No.90442

>>90347
>>90314

Update:

Rose 120 ranks in 3 minutes.

>> No.90448

>>90439

PRAN happening part two

>> No.90443

>>90439
>mvis
wtf

>> No.90460

>>90442

its the first days, small $ difference is big rank difference

>> No.90453

>>90434
>>90428
I have been, but they don't go through since the order price data doesnt seem to be following the real stock price properly.

>> No.90456

>>90443
Sony started using their shit and gave them major plugs, so they skyrocketed

>> No.90459

dump jack at 58? y/n?

>> No.90468

>>90374
>>90374
But why would you hold something that is losing? I mean, set a trailing stop, make sure you don't hold it over night on particularly volatile assets. I don't see what the problem is holding something like TNA or UPRO where the underlying generally goes up in a relatively stable manner. I mean, the 3x shorts you'd be an idiot to hold, because the losses compound, but the longs seem like a good idea if the underlying is solid.

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>>90459
I wouldn't, I think it'll continue at a positive trend

>> No.90476

>>90443
>>90448
There's no way it closes at +103% so we should go short on it, r-right?

>> No.90478

>dat shitty defense

plz

>> No.90480

>>90476
>inb4 massive short squeeze when everyone assumes the same thing but the price keeps rising

>> No.90484

I shorted mvis heavy on my shitty account

>2-2 Canada vs U.S
hue

>> No.90507

>$1200 return from JACK today
>Not getting off the gravy train

>> No.90528

>go long mvis
>make money
>go short mvis
>make money
literally the best.

>> No.90530

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS6-vI70oc0

Post what youre listening to while you make/lose money!

Music will inspire millions to be created for me

>> No.90540

>>90530
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ10Dm5rXEs

my jam

>> No.90541

>>90528
when did you long, and how did you know it would rise

>> No.90537

odds that someone here ends the year with more than $1m in the game?

>> No.90543

>>90468
>TNA

It's actually not bad because it isn't an inverse etf and also you get that sweet ass dividend compound which easily erases the errosion.

but for commodities, especially inverse commodities no it is terrible.

>> No.90549

>>90537
0.01%

>> No.90550

>>90537
people were over that in less time in the /polse/ game

>> No.90544

>>90537

0

>> No.90555

>>90541
I went long at like low 80s, didn't know it would rise, just guessed right.

>> No.90562

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8

On a 10-hour loop when I trade

>> No.90557

>>90550
Because they were cheating.

>>90540
Where do you find shit like this?

>> No.90573

>>90540
This is pretty legit. Reminds me of the outsider art appeal of "my teenage dream ended"

>> No.90584

eevryone short mvis

>> No.90585

>>90543
Fair enough.

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I just listen to eurobeat

>> No.90589

>>90035
8 at the moment. Was 5 this morning.

>> No.90607

>mvis
FREE FUCKING MONEY.

>> No.90615

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jllJ-HeErjU

>> No.90614

>Hewlett-Packard is expected is to report yet another drop in sales after the bell Thursday.

short short short

>> No.90622
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90622

>>90607
th-thanks, anon...

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90635

>>90622
good fucking game, guys.

>> No.90644

>>90635
>>90622
pran 2.0, it will drop by tomorrow's open

>> No.90652

>this fucking hockey game

>> No.90645

>tfw just buying stocks and giving no shits to consequence.

I'm gonna be broke within the week.

>> No.90646

>>90615
>it's a buy the fucking dip scheme, you feel me?

fucking kek

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90648

>>90635
ok then

>> No.90664

>>90648
why not short it, it's up 115%

>> No.90671

>>90615
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j94SgeyCh3M

>> No.90674

>>90648
>not expanding your short as it goes up

It's going to crash harder than a thai hooker after payment in coke

>> No.90697

What is buying and selling short and how do you do it?

>> No.90702
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90702

>>90674
I did, but seriously fuck you.

>> No.90718

>>90702
wait until tomorrow's open, it will be seriously down

>> No.90720

>>90702
Pigs get slaughtered, anon.

>> No.90727

>3-2 Canada
lel

>> No.90739

>>90674
It sure looks that way. It might have an awesome new development, but there's bound to be profit taking soon.

>> No.90765

>>90035
currently #95 which is great since I was 240 yesterday.
>tfw picked up tesla on a whim at 3:55 yesterday. Totally forgot about it and woke up this morning and raised a good hundred ranks like nothing

>> No.90778

S-H-O-R-T-M-V-I-S

>> No.90787

>>90718
Yeah, I have 33,000 shares shorted on MVIS.

>> No.90804

>tfw nobody bought into OSGIQ with you

At least I'm up 3% with it

>> No.90817

>>90804
What good is 3% when I'm up 7% on shorting MVIS!

>> No.90826

mvis right now

>> No.90827

>>90817
Price looks frozen to me.

Is MVIS the new PRAN?

>> No.90859

>>90827
Yes, it's the new PRAN and the price hasn't been frozen yet. It's bouncing around 2.97 a share after being as high as 3.15.

>> No.90889

Back to near break even after my UVXY short fucked me yesterday. It's back in the green though.

>> No.90886

whatever we do, hilario gonzalez g going to end up doubling the second one

>> No.90906

>>90889
shorting uvxy.


That is almost like cheating

>> No.90940

>>90906
Much like buying it on Monday after it slides again tomorrow.

>> No.90933

So, keep FB or sell before market closes?

>> No.90962

>>90906
>>90906
Yeah. Trying to figure out how to pull it off with real money. I'd switch it out if I could find a 2x or 3x short of the VIX.

Closest thing I can find is buying some UVXY puts, but I'd have to brush up on my options.

>> No.90964

>>90933
I sold it, it was on a week high.

>> No.90970

>dat mvis

YUM. Bought it at 2.95.

>> No.90973

>>90940
Well not really m point becasue in the real world this would be impossible for him, so as far as a stock simulation... it is not really simulating what he could do. Second it could possibly blow up and wipe him out in a second if shtf, very small odds it would, but if he keeps compounding it he might as well just snuggle up in the number one spot now. Brokers are not going to let you short that unless you have major dosh.

>> No.90974

>>90964
I sold too got ~$100 profit from it. not terrible.

Are you shorting it now?

>> No.90982

>>90974
Nah, mvis was a much better opportunity since I got to it late.

Shorted it at 2.97.

>> No.90983

>>90970
at 2.75 now

>> No.90988

>>90973
Or a reputation for wise investments. The shit hitting the fan is so unlikely as to be near improbable. Buying it might be safer at the bottom than shorting it ever would be.

>> No.90992

Why is everyone masturbating over UVXY stock falling after a afternoon spike on the price? Am I missing something? Based on the graph what it seems to me is that you're all buying high to sell low, but considering no one is that dumb, I'm going to have to ask what do you people mean by the concept of 'shorting' ?

>> No.90994

>>90962
If you want to pull it off with real money you could either buy SVXY. or you could get a level 2? options account. And buy puts on uvxy and write calls on uvxy at the same in the money strike price. Free puts that way.

you take the risk however that your written call blows the fuck up and you are wiped out. Unlikely, but shit if you have balls of steel and no fear, can compound that and get away with mad dosh.
One wrong move and your life is finished

>> No.90995

>>89705
>tfw made $500 on Jos A Bank alone but I'm still in the red

fucking hell I raped day one and I can't seem to make it back

Thank God I picked up FB before trading closed yesterday when I heard the news with WhatsApp

>> No.91005

Selling calls on UVXY is suicide.

>> No.91008

>>90982
Based on the history of PRAN... it might slide for days more.

>> No.91030

>>91005
Much like waiting on TVIX in a bull run is a sure gainer, but you might be waiting a long time for it to pay off.

>> No.91041

Cover or keep MVIS overnight?

I might not be able to be here when the market opens, so keeping feels a bit risky, but could pay off majorly.

>> No.91044

Apple seems to be on the low, is this a good investment?

>> No.91053

>>91030
tvix .... that bitch never moves

much like svxy

>> No.91055

>>90973
Well I'm not all in as far as the short goes. I was holding SVXY until I realized it was only 1x instead of 2.

>> No.91056

>>90992
You should check some of the links, although it looks like the specifically for this question is missing again. Short selling is borrowing someone else's stocks, selling them, then buying them back later and keeping the difference. It's a way to make profit on a stock's decline.

>> No.91066

>>91041
I'd never leave shorts uncovered overnight, too risky. Markets change moods from day to day

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91068

>Pumped primarily into Tesla about a week ago
>Rank 423 or something
>Tesla goes up
>Top 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC6vcsdd7LY

>> No.91070

oh look at that--- groupon reports earnings after market


short that pos?

>> No.91073

>>91030

>Much like waiting on TVIX in a bull run is a sure gainer

No, the expected value of TVIX is 0.

>> No.91061

>>91041
Could put in a limit or stop call if you want to be safe.

>> No.91064

>>90992
We bought in yesterday for a nice 5-8% gain depending on buy. My holdings hit limit stop so I kept my gains

>> No.91078

>>91056
How do you short on this simulator?

>> No.91094

>>91041
Remember PRAN... this might sink for days.

>> No.91106

>>91078
>trading
>trade
>sell short

>> No.91115

Hey wipe, put a definition of shorting in the OP text so we can refer to something the 15 times a day someone asks "what's shorting?"

>> No.91117

>>91109
>Invested in myself

;_;

>> No.91109

What in gods name did WipeOP invest in... Jesus man get your shit together

>> No.91127

>>91106
Nevermind I'm retarded. thank you. But what will it exactly do in the simulator?

>> No.91137

>>91061
I have a duo order myself. Stop at 2.80 and a limit at 2.00

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>> No.91139

>>91127
pretty much what it would do on on a real account

>> No.91151

>>91109
I guess he shortsold pennystocks.

>> No.91153

>>91073
The volatility index is never zero as stocks don't stay at a fixed value. TVIX is a VIX or Volatility Index based ETF.

>> No.91145

>>91127
gains become losses and losses become gains.

>> No.91154

>>91115
if people would take the time to look at the links already provided, those things are well-covered as it is

might as well skip posting the links, seeing as no one fucking looks at them

>> No.91160

>>91138
Poor Wipe. He was in first place for a while.

>> No.91163

Who was the anon that posted me with a member of the House of Lords yesterday? It's really bugging me...

>> No.91168

>>91160
That was PRAN.

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worried about tsla AH and tomorrow

>> No.91173

>>91163
Wat?

>> No.91177

Which 7 of you are still holding NG? Should we hold overnight? I heard it's a good longterm one with a lot of movement. I made $900 from it today alone.

>> No.91182

>>91173
In one of the /idtg/ threads, someone had a photo of me and a member of British parliament and posted it. I was wondering who it was...

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>>90995

>> No.91191

>>91182
you're the one posting your stocktwits account! did you post the photo there or something?

>> No.91195

>>91153

>TVIX is a VIX or Volatility Index based ETF.

No. TVIX tracks vix futures. Vix futurresd tend to trade at a premium to spot vix, so they lose value over time. Hence why TVIX has lost 99.93% of it's initial value. Close to enough 100% to me.

>> No.91202

>>91191
Lol no. Stocktwits account is a photo of my wife. But there's no photos of anything else there.. I sent that photo to a few anons I know pretty well on Skype.

>> No.91205

>>91005
just write the number of calls you were planning to short deep in the money.... worst case you roll over your puts and double down even bigger.

>> No.91214

>>91188
At least yo got a decent day

MVIS is not falling. SHIT

>> No.91220

>>91070

Is the new CEO any good?

>the last CEO

>> No.91236

>>91220
oh i have no idea. what did the last ceo do?

>> No.91245

>>91195
If that is the case, why is it still allowed to be listed as an ETF?

>> No.91256

>>91214
Are you sure it's not PRAN 2.0?

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>>91236

Be a unprofessional fairy goatfuck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Mason

>On December 18, 2012, Mason was named "Worst CEO of the Year" by Herb Greenberg of CNBC. Greenberg wrote, in part, "Mason's goofball antics, which can come off more like a big kid than company leader, almost make a mockery of corporate leadership – especially for a company with a market value of more than $3 billion. It would be excusable, even endearing, if the company were doing well (think Herb Kelleher of Southwest Airlines) but it's not. Sales growth is through the floor...".[12]

>> No.91271

I have to do some homework... I'm ok with being #5 I'll stop trying to go up today.

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>>91245

Because they warn you in the prospectus.

>> No.91303

>>91256
I don't know, but what I'm sure of is that I'll cover right before closing. Maybe tomorrow falls more, probably, but I'm not gonna risk now that I'm in good position

>> No.91331

>>91287
I think the prospectus should be given as a condition of buying stocks.

>> No.91344

Good run on ONVO. Who else got some good ones today?

>> No.91361

>>91344
MVIS short has yielded 14.3%

>> No.91364

>>91344
made a grand on NUGT

>> No.91365

wow went from 350 to 60 from mvis with my "hype" account

>> No.91356

>>91331

Every public security has a prospectus describing it. But most people don't read it because they are 200 pages of legalese.

Have fun.

http://app.velocitysharesetns.com/files/prospectus/PRICING_SUPPLEMENT_No__VLS_ETN-1_A30_long_form.pdf

>> No.91377

>>91356
Nice... I think that might be a fun read oddly enough.

>> No.91381

>>91364
Nice buy

>>91361
>>91365
How much did you guys go in on?

>> No.91388

>>91365
And I went from 400s to a perch not far from the top 25.

>> No.91397

>>91381
I shorted about 28k or 9000 shares, for some reason it wouldn't let me short more saying shit like "restricted to 3300 shares" or something

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AH funtiem

>> No.91414

still waiting for the FRX drop, it's been 4 fucking days

>> No.91418

>>91381
33,000 shares for most of the day.

>> No.91421

>>91377

>Nice... I think that might be a fun read oddly enough.

Yea volatility etns are an exception. Since they are so complicated to the average trader, they go into real depth explaining the risk factors and showing how the underlying index is calculated and so on. Even with sample graphs.

>> No.91433

>>91397
I did that ten times to make my gains.

>> No.91442

thank you based TSLA and MVIS today

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>>91344
>pic related
ONVO is red because I bought at 10.25 in hopes for a good day tomorrow.
I made (only) 1k with TSLA, 1k with ONVO previously and decent amounts with GDP and MVIS. Almost all my stocks have been on the rise today though, so it may be a lucky strike.

>> No.91462

>>91449
Why didn't you buy yesterday??

>> No.91470

>>91414
I made a fair amount off that today, but then sold it too early and didn't want to buy back in after it just carried on increasing.

>> No.91481

>>91421
Yeah, I might learn a lot by reading one of those. Speaking of which my HPQ short is backfiring.

>> No.91494

>>91462
I did buy yesterday, I'm the anon who was riding the ONVO train early in the morning, I've just been selling and buying around the 10.30$ price since then

>> No.91495

buy back my mvis short at start of market or?

shorted at 3.01

>> No.91497

>>91481
give it time

>> No.91506

>>91495
how many shares did you short? just to see what have you earned

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91512

Based TSLA and ARRS.
I actually sold ARRS yesterday because someone suggested me to but brought back when I saw it kept rising.
I also made a mistake in my last minute short on GRPN as I am getting fucked in AH trading.

>> No.91521

Shorted FB and MVIS, soon...

>> No.91522

>>91506
3k

>> No.91530

>>91521

wierd rise from FB, after the fall at the beginning, i shorted too, but not too much

>> No.91538

hp sinking fast

>> No.91542

>>91522
so you got around 900$, pretty good

>> No.91556

>>91542
made about 2k on it and jack today

>> No.91560

>>91530
Can we hold on to the short untill it starts declining or does it actually have to plummet / plummet the next day?

If not I shall hold on to my stocks untill Jewckeberg is on the slab.

>> No.91597

>>91538
It was more profitable than expected but revenue is in decline. I think I'm back to where I shorted it at now.

>> No.91615

>>91495
Looks like you might need to watch.

>> No.91632

What the fuck happened to FRX at close, same shit happened yesterday

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>>91344
JOSB

>> No.91647

Ukraine incident over apparently..

>> No.91684

>>91647
fairly obvious it wasn't going to go anywhere, let alone affect the market

>> No.91735

NEW THREAD

>>91729
>>91729
>>91729

>> No.91747

>>91735
Nigga the market is closed...

>> No.91824

>>91747
After Hours Market (4:00-8:00 p.m. ET)

>> No.91900

Where do you guys trade when NYSE is closed?

>> No.91917

>>91900
We don't trade but we observe AH and speculate about what's to happen tomorrow

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from 400 to top 50 today

>> No.93268

>>91949
What spiked for you?

>> No.93419

>>90718
You were right, I'm #24 up from #200.

>> No.94702

Short DGLD?