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Jesus fucking Christ, if you read this assholes twitter he literally acts like an immature retard over him getting replaced. Its like sorry bro technology takes jobs work at fucking Singapore McDonald or something you gook fucking idiot.

>> No.8912864

>>8912855
What an unlikeable face.

>> No.8912865

>>8912855
who taht?

>> No.8912870

literally who

>> No.8912882

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MONEY IS

>> No.8912906
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>>8912882
>Let me funds your hedges

Fucking retarded mother fucking piece of shit wants to move your money around for a fee and gets ass mad when others can move money around with out him taking his cut.

Index funds which are just buying the market with out even moving money around out perform him and his assholes he hires. Which would be like a much better investment yet this retard wants to cry over crypto.

>> No.8912909

do you expect us to know who this random faggot is? please kys op

>> No.8912911

>>8912855
just a jealous nocoiner, sad

>> No.8912912

>>8912865
>>8912870
He used to work as a trader for some big banks, he made bank and now gives lectures on trading to whoever wants to listen.

Btw OP, he already quit his job.

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>>8912870
Anton kreil.

He was a big boy banker at goldman sacs back in the day and now he set up his own investment/trading body/ education group where people pay like £15k for a course and learn to trade their own money. He has a few good lectures online and has opened the curtains to how a lot of the financial business operates.

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>>8912914
>he set up his own investment/trading body/ education group where people pay like £15k for a course

Well obviously he can't be making people that much money when he spends most of his time fucking with people not using his shit investment strategy on twatter. Nothing says WOW, I need to buy a mother fucking over price course then some asshole on twitter harping on others investments right? Who does that other then ass mad brats?

>> No.8912966

really strange to see someone like that get so buttblasted and be so shortsighted. you'd think a supposedly successful trader would be open minded about crypto and at least realise new things come and change the game once and a while. sad

>> No.8912969

>>8912914
His lecture about how margin platforms operate is pretty good. If they're stooping so low in conventional markets with regs, they're definitely barting the market in crypto, it's not even an option, it's certain. And wonder what else they're doing...

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>>8912948
I think it goes something along the lines of that the money you pay for courses is not taken away from the money you use to trade as long as you trade the markets using their platform. He had a video up about how stockbrokers make a large proportion of their money via getting norm is to use their platform and leverage the shit out of their positions after being influenced by fake 'professional investors' with fake flashy instagram pages. The stockbrokers platforms them give a kickback to people who get others using the platform.

Apparently if you have some good returns on your account through his system then hell get you to manage other people's money. It seems he has some good people on board his team in terms of their experience in industry and some of his videos are decent about the industry however I wouldn't necessarily depart £15k on it

>>8912969
I'm interested to know what returns they are making at his company any ideas?

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>>8913060
Look at his fucking face. He is fat ugly as fuck and sits on twitter insulting people. If I want to give a dime to a person I would want them to get there ass off twitter and fucking work instead of bitching and moaning over shit while being a part time political pundit. If this asshole worked for me I would fire him.

>> No.8913153

Actual professional trader here.

I doubt his course works. If you have a successful trading strategy, you don’t want to give it away. And if everybody knows about a strategy,
It doesn’t work.

>> No.8913185

>>8913141
He's retired

>> No.8913202

>>8912855
Guy who had a job at a bank sells trading courses for a living instead of trading for a living.

To be honest it seems like he has alot of knowledge about the finance industry but isn't a particulatly skilled trader.

Some of the guys he interviews seem to know what they're talking about though.

>> No.8913203

>>8913185
>He's retired
>Sells shit

Please, You be this stupid.

>> No.8913210

Has anyone taken his courses online? I consider buying a 1 year access.

>> No.8913239

>>8913210
I very much doubt it will improve your trading 1 iota.

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>>8913141
No disrespect but you seem a little bitter towards the guy. Why is that? The guy has put in his work in the industry and has managed multi million dollar funds at some of the biggest investment banks out there. I'm not going to put money into his training regime but still he knows what he is on about and wouldn't have reached where he is if he was a fraud getting buttmad over cryptocurrency. You shouldn't be annoyed at him for having an opinion that differs from yours. If your that easily influenced or emotionally effected by someone shitting on your investment ideas then maybe investing in financial markets and currencies isn't for you.

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>>8913255
>has managed multi million dollar funds

Just because he moved money around once at a job he probably was about to get fired from then "retired" to sell over priced courses does not mean shit anon. Index funds out perform money managers and I am sure his fat ugly ass will never tell you that because he needs dollars for a face lift that is badly needed.

>OH LOOK I HAD A GOOD JOB ONCE AT AN INDUSTRY, NOW I JUST BITCH AND MOAN ON TWITTER BECAUSE NO ONE BUYS MY FUCKING COURSE.

>> No.8913385

>>8913153
>And if everybody knows about a strategy,
>It doesn’t work.

Depends on the strategy boyo.

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>>8913293
Yeah because working a combined seven years at lehmann brothers and Jp Morgan "does not mean shit" in your eyes. Thanks for that brilliant bit of information I bet you have secured a much more illustrious job yourself no? It seems you are a bit arrogant to how hard it can be to get into such a role in the first place let alone be head of pan European investing portfolios. Still doesn't take away from the fact you are the one getting salty because he is on twitter dissing your cryptocurrency portfolio. Get a grip dude and if you don't like him that much then stop checking on his twitter then.

>> No.8913493

>>8913060
>I think it goes something along the lines of that the money you pay for courses is not taken away from the money you use to trade as long as you trade the markets using their platform
sounds jewish af

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>> No.8913505

>>8913441
The biggest surprise here was finding out funny junk still existed.

>> No.8913506

>>8913153
>And if everybody knows about a strategy,
It doesn’t work.
you can backtest a strategy, a lot of them work

the hard part is actually implementing it to perfection without slippage, fees, etc

>> No.8913526

>>8913210
youll probably learn more just joining a brokerage and trading with a little bit of money with your own research

all the fundamentals are free online

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>>8913480
>working a combined seven years at lehmann brothers and Jp Morgan

Jack Bogle controls $2.2 trillion 9/10 of every USD go that ever gets invested runs through his company. He has been doing this since fucking money was invented almost. And all he does is buy the market and lets the money sit.

YEAH, THAT IS RIGHT TRILLION DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THAT IS?

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I know you got triggered by him in regards to crypto, but in other regards the fact that he can openly support Trump, and also make jokes about feminism, preferred gender pronouns, and so on, and not be tarred and feathered suggests in some sense he has made it and has fuck you money.
Contrast that with there was a prominent member of a board of directors in my state he made a mildly disparaging comment about the gender stuff and after that there was a mob of protesters and his career was ruined.

>> No.8913637

>>8913586
Why are you telling us this? What has this got to do with anton kreil at all?

I'm not disagreeing that index funds are good investments long term?

You still haven't addressed the issue that you are getting emotional over anton dissing your crypto.

>> No.8913665

>>8913637
>dissing your crypto.

I don't give a fuck about anyone's investments. I just see a fucking charlatan giving out shitty advice.

>> No.8913711

>>8912855
isnt this the guy who did a reality tv show about taking some random people and getting them to trade?

>> No.8913724

>>8913665
Given that you are probably the most emotionally charged individuals in this thread I disagree ghat you 'don't give a shit about anyone's investments'

Get a grip dude you are obsessed. If you really didn't give a shit then don't involve yourself in a thread after getting butt hurt over his opinions on twitter. It just shows you are an over emotional sad individual get a grip and stop behaving like a immature child. Jeeze

>> No.8913745

>>8913480
You trust anyone who works at Lehmann brothers and JP morgan automatically, you are a grade A chump!

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>>8913711

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>>8913724
>TRILLION x 2


1,000,000,000,000,000,000
1,000,000,000,000,000,000

Stay poor sucking this fake investment guro's ass

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>>8913747

>> No.8913795

>>8913745
When have I said anywhere in the thread that I trust them just because they work at a bank? I even said I wouldn't personally invest in his education scheme. However I would take his advice over some random nut on 4chan who gets emotional over twitter posts any day.

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How desperate is this? This is not how someone capable of making money in the markets acts -- they do not beg people to pay money for their courses.

>> No.8913847

>>8913795
>However I would take his advice
ergo you trust him because of where he worked.

Congratulations on being a chump, all it takes to impress you is a title on a resume and you will trust them.

>> No.8913870

>>8913847
So you are saying that in terms of banking and investments that you would take the advice of some random person on 4chan who has no valid background of employment or skills in the industry.

Dear me senpai get your shit sorted that's embarrassing.

>> No.8913876

>>8913870
>So you are saying that in terms of banking and investments that you would take the advice of some random person on 4chan
Please point out where I said this.

>> No.8914040

>>8913876
The whole premise of the argument was whether I would take his advice over a person from 4chan. The clear answer is yes I would give the two. If you want to pick and chose what I said go back to post
>>8913847

And revisit what I said and where you got your quote from you mong. I said : "I personally wouldn't invest in his education scheme. However I would take his advice over some random nut on 4chan"

>> No.8914044

I like him. Learnt quite abit from him on youtube, he talks shit on crypto but I think, like others (jamie dimon ect) he's accumulating. He's not stupid, just dosn't care what people think.

>> No.8914058

>>8914040
>The whole premise of the argument was whether I would take his advice over a person from 4chan
I wouldn't take advice from either of them. Congrats on being a chump who trusts anyone with GS on their resume.

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>>8912912

Self-proclaimed Walstreet trader (he could have been a secretary for all we know) who now makes a living selling himself as a financial guru, doing the speaker circuit.

I know that wealthy people don't do paid seminars on the regular. So his story stinks.

>> No.8914133

>>8912865
The god trader, Anton Kreil

>> No.8914169

>>8914086
He was in fact a trader at Goldman Sachs, this stuff is public knowledge. Lying about being a professional trader is a criminal offense.

>> No.8914199

>>8912855
https://twitter.com/AntonKreil/status/981051139830370304

>> No.8914230

>>8912906
His guys are only hired when they outperform the Market by a clear margin.

>> No.8914275

>>8913202
>Guy who had a job at a bank sells trading courses for a living instead of trading for a living.
that's all you have to know

it's like the guys getting paid to teach other people how to play poker

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>>8914230
>outperform the Market

I DID SOMETHING GOOD THIS ONE TIME

NO ONE OUT PERFORMS THE MARKET OVER TIME

NO ONE.

WHY YOU THINK ALL THESE GOD DAMN TRADERS HAVE SOME GIMMICK ATTACHED TO THERE BULLSHIT.

BUY MUH COARSE JOIN MUH SECRET STRATEGY GROUP FOR ONLY A MEASLY SUM OF X

GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKERS ARE ABOUT AS VALUABLE AS TELEMARKETERS SELLING FAT LOSS PILLS.

>> No.8914309

>>8913590
The man is clearly a net positive. He just needs to take his own advice and Allow some diversification in his portfolio.

>> No.8914318

>>8912855
I bet he is salty that some early adopters now have more money than him while doing absolutely nothing

>> No.8914342

Didn't know it was this easy to work coiners, seem like an overly sensitive bunch

>> No.8914344

>>8914295
>noone outperforms the market
This is a fairy tale that people use to justify settling for mediocrity.

>> No.8914386

>>8914295
You unbelievable faggot. Some hedge fund managers outperform the market for over a decade. Blackstone outperformed the market for 18 out of 20 years, iirc. And you will winng much efficient market hypothesis.

>> No.8914411

>>8914275
Yeah, if he was so good, why would he need to charge $3000 or whatever for a course. Why wouldn't he just trade for a living?

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>>8914344
Long term investors billionaires that casually do talks to listen to them fart in public.

Traders selling some bullshit course barely holding on to money.

>Except this one retard who bought a fucking lottery ticket and got mad lucky yeah, eventually some downie is going to hit the power ball. That does not mean it is a statistical fact that the odds are in your favor no matter the amount of meme lines

>> No.8914437

>>8914416
If you can't beat the market you're a complete moron, the market is completely inefficient.

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>>8914386
>Blackstone

ONE FUCKING HEDGE FUND OUT OF HOW MANY? SO WHAT 999% OF PROFESSIONALS FAIL

LITERALLY JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP SENPAI,

THE ONLY THING KEEPING THE FUCKING LIGHTS ON IN THESE HEDGE FUNDS ARE THE FUCKING FEES THEY CHARGE.

>> No.8914445

>>8914416
Learn about the Grossman-Stiglitz paradox pleb.

>> No.8914465

>>8914058
You're such a moron. Kek. You gotta be one of the traders making me rich.

>> No.8914481

>>8914465
You trust someone automatically with GS on their resume just because. That makes you the moron, not me.

>> No.8914522

>>8914318
top kek, this is literally the only reason

>> No.8914721

>>8914446

"Over the last decade, these high-tech operators have become sort of a shadow Wall Street — from New Jersey to Kansas City, from Texas to Chicago. Depending on whose estimates you believe, high-frequency traders account for 40 to 70 percent of all trading on every stock market in the country. Some of the biggest players trade more than a billion shares a day.

These are short-term bets. Very short. The founder of Tradebot, in Kansas City, Mo., told students in 2008 that his firm typically held stocks for 11 seconds. Tradebot, one of the biggest high-frequency traders around, had not had a losing day in four years, he said."

There are plenty. If no one was suceeding that would mean that everyone was breaking even, since there people that go bankrupt and lose shit ton of money that automatically implies that anyone who's stayed solvent for an extended duration of time is likely making sick profits.

>> No.8914816

>>8913834
Yeah I like him in his youtube videos but that second tweet just sounds so butt hurt.
I dont understand why so many OG traders shy away from crypto.
Scared for change probably. . .