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Anyone in on dropshipping? You won't lose money like you will on shitcoins.

>> No.8858967

How does it work and can you get in trouble for selling someone else products?

>> No.8859275

>>8858967
Basically set up a shopify store> list items you find on AliExpress > advertise > people buy the item > store then buys item from AliExpress and sends it to buyer

No you can't get in trouble, AliExpress allows it

>> No.8859422

How much money we talking

>> No.8859429

anyone dropshipping in 2018 is retarded and is better off wageslaving

>> No.8859465

>>8859422
Could be a few hundred or a few thousand based on how much time you put into it. It's definitely not a get rich quick scheme but it is a way to try and build something to sustain you and get good at

>>8859429
t. Badholder

>> No.8859489

>>8858925
I tried but didn't manage to sell anything.....

>> No.8859583

I've been thinking about it for few months. Busy doing affiliate marketing. I'll get my first few shopify stores up by the end of the month then either buy influencers or fb ads for traffic if they don't get gimped by congress by then.
Seen lots of noobs with under 1 year experience reaching a $100/day milestone in their first month. Plus it's a lot more legit/sustainable biz than most aff marketing schemes. Been on the scene for 10+ years and my methods last 3-4 years tops. But I guess shopify niches will last about that long too.
>>8859489
What was your traffic strategy & volume?

>> No.8859593

>>8858925
You will most definitely lose money dropshipping

>> No.8859665

>>8859593
You literally will lose only what you put into ads if you don't sell anything, which is less than $100 a month if you are smart with it.

You don't hold any inventory.

>>8859583
What are the advantages/ disadvantages to affiliate marketing? One of the reasons i think dropshipping hasn't been saturated yet is because it's actually quite a barrier to entry and most people just want to do something in an hour and get rich

>> No.8859708

Dropshipping is over and it's a brainlet meme

>> No.8859724

>>8859708
this. Everyone is doing it so The margins are shit now.

>> No.8859773

>>8859708
>>8859724
Meme to keep out new stores

There are 375,000 Shopify stores, compared to ~3 billion people with internet access. 90% of the US uses internet. There's plenty of opportunity if you don't sell just finger spinners or typical shit. You have to be unique

>> No.8859813

>>8859665
it's just another avenue to take to make money online. minus the e-commerce aspect.
instead of designing an e-commerce store you have to design a landing page which sends people to the offer. user may not have to buy anything for you to get your paid commission. can be as simple as a free signup or free app download and you will get $1-5 depending on the offer. paid offers exist in the scene too which are, as you guessed, more lucrative.
>>8859708
some people say this to keep people out.
some people say this because they have no clue.
which pool do you belong to?

>> No.8859847

>tfw dropshipping
>tfw 2 hrs of work per day (work=ordering from aliexpress and no I will not get a VA, I'm not jewish)
>tfw I net ~10k$ per month doing this
>tfw I also have some bitcoin
>tfw comfy

>> No.8859867

>>8859773
only way i can see anyone making money is if you brand your self like youtube faggots do. So

>> No.8859869

>>8859847
What do you sell anon?

>> No.8859888

>>8859813
>>8859708

if he's refering to dropshipping the "how I went from 0 to 1 gorillion $ in a second" youtube way ... yeah ... that might of worked about 3 years ago when fb ads were still cheap.

>> No.8859904

>>8859869
vape stuff and sex toys mostly.

>> No.8859929

>>8859867
Not the only way but certainly is a good way.

>>8859813
Is it in you to come up with cool and innovative splash pages?

>>8859888
Yeah I agree with that, which like I said it isn't a get rich in a day plan like a shitcoin mooning. But doing research and just putting some time into it will reap rewards. I think we would be surprised at how stupid and lazy people are

>> No.8859931

>>8859583
I was going after the conservative boomers.
I think that was my issue, non of those lazy fucks are willing to give up a dime.

>> No.8859943

>>8859904
Vape stuff? How does that work when fasttech exists?

I given dropshipping much consideration, but i can't for the life of me find a niche. Seems like every product already has a go-to website people buy it from.
I need some form of passive income

>> No.8859942

>>8858925
what are you selling non ?

>> No.8860016

>>8859943
>he thinks all people are neets like us.
>he thinks you can easily sell anything with enough reach.
>non, the internet is bigger than you think
>imagine how dumb and missinformed the average joe is and then realize that half of them are dumber and more missinformed.
also aliexpress is cheaper thank fasttech on most items if you know how to search and know secrets like ... for example you realize that 50% of sellers ON ALIEXPRESS are dropshippers.

>> No.8860030

>>8859943
>Vape stuff? How does that work when fasttech exists?
hes lying. The problem these guys dont get is that the manufacturers are hip to this shit now. They actively try to cut out the middleman. I used to do this with vape stuff when it was just getting big. you have to find a market that just starting.

Amazon is a good example. It used to be profitable to do it on there. Now amazon has an algorithm that find things that are big sellers. Then goes to china and buy straight from the manufacture and labels it as a basic item.

>> No.8860048

>>8858925
drop shipping doesn't work if you are an autistic neet op nad if you don't already realize this then you already lost

>> No.8860050

>>8860016
>ON ALIEXPRESS are dropshippers.
this i kinda didnt know. What do they buy their shit from taiwan /malaysia and list on there?

>> No.8860054

>>8859888
so you have no clue what you're talking about.
you just saw some guru's shilling a course on youtube and painted the whole world of dropshipping with a broad brush.
can you make $10mm a year in e-commerce? yeah. there are people who do.
will average person? 99% won't. 95% won't break $1k a month. many people are simply not cut out for putting in the effort that's required.
end of they day those guru's are just exploring another revenue source: selling courses.
>>8859929
yes but most people just steal competitors and tweak few things. it's been a while since i created something really original.

>> No.8860087

>>8859943
It's all about where you advertise anon. You'd be surprised how much stuff will catch people's eye. Most people who fail dropshipping probably didn't buy a theme and had a super shopify store, which turns off a ton of people.

>> No.8860089
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>>8860030
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>> No.8860109

>>8860054
click on my id asshat. reread everything and realize I said no such thing. I only said that what gurus are selling on yt right now stopped working long ago, or at least stopped being VERY profitable.

>> No.8860118

>>8860089
cope with what? good for you, you found a way to do it. Grats

>> No.8860150

>>8860089
actually a little jelly again grats. I couldnt figure it out and ran out of money

>> No.8860154

>>8860089
Nice anon. How long have you been in the game?

>> No.8860163

>>8860118
You said I was lying. Cope with your false statement.
Vape&sex works well because it's EXTREMELY hard to advertise on low hanging fruit platforms like fb or ig so if you manage to reach a big audience you will sell big.
I gain nothing from bragging to cryptoneets as I also am a cryptoneet but a highly functional one.

>> No.8860180

>>8860163
>Cope with your false statement.
theres nothing to cope. I was wrong, gj. I can admit it and not kill my self

>> No.8860188

>>8860154
Started last summer. Kept failing until OCT and after OCT I finally made it work. I still run into problems like suppliers or bad customers or other nuisances but nothing fatal.

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8860204

I warned you, and you didn't listen...

>> No.8860216

>>8860109
sad you really think that. again you are painting with a broad brush.
not that i buy courses anyway, 99% of their info is free online.
its a cost benefit analysis. do you want to research these things yourself over timespan of weeks/months. or have someone who already did it successfully spoon feed you a lesson plan.
several people in my circle are selling courses. the info is current and not outdated.
selling shit that doesn't work is best for those internet marketing forums like warriorforum & hackerforum. people are really desperate there.
fryi big percentage of people who buy courses, take no action, and say it doesn't work. that's why it's so rampant. people these days expect to be handed the keys to the castle without doing any work. big money in profiting off laziness like that.

>> No.8860218

>>8860180
Kudoes for admiting that. Sorry the /biz/raely language has rubbed off on me probably.
Cheers then.

>> No.8860224

>>8860188
Nice, with the sex stuff how do you primarily reach an audience?

>> No.8860226

How the fuck do I find a niche?

>> No.8860245

>>8860226
niche is not as important as you think when starting out. don't get hung up about it. just pick anything you personally have an interest in (like a hobby) and take action in setting up a store and getting traffic. or go to a site like aliexpress & sort by best selling and scroll until something catches your eye.

>> No.8860260

>>8860226
There's a bunch of autistic niches
My little pony, brats, old school video games...

>> No.8860265

>>8860218
now you have me wanted to give this shit a shot again. I thought about dildoes before. I just wasn't sure people would put hazardous silicone up their ass and gash.
>i mean chink shit comes from a place with no regulations and was concerned people would be worried about hazardous materials used

>> No.8860285

>>8860216
My man. Do you have a learning disability. I said the gurus that sell those how to make 1MM in 1ms are selling BS. Not all yt'ers that post dropshipping stuff are BS actually knowledge from them has helped me a lot.
I recommend NO BS DROPSHIPPING and The Hustle Husbands.

Sorry /pol/tards it's a nigger and a gay couple but they are genuine dropshippers and do a decent job at it. Also the free info they give out is very useful and enough to get you started in dropshipping. They also have courses and shit but I've never bought one so I have no idea how good they are.
Like oldfriend I quoted above said 99% of the info you need and is sold you can find online for free you just need to dyor and work until it works.

>> No.8860319

>>8860265
There are genuinely quality products on aliexpress. I mostly sell products from Top Brand stores (look for that yellow badge near the name of the store on product listing) or products that have processing 3 days or less to ensure I'm not getting them from resellers.

>> No.8860329

It's shit.

Facebook is just filled with these shit items and shipping is +2-4 weeks ,

If you want to get into ecom do Amazon , Dropshipping is dead since end 2016

>> No.8860349

>>8860224
Sorry I won't disclose any specific details on how I do my sales but it involves my programing skills and other not marketing related stuff (nothing blackhat tho). :)

>> No.8860353

>>8860285
thanks for these youtube links.

>>8860319
do you have any more info/point me in the right direction? would be appreciated.

>> No.8860365

>>8860329
Amazon you actually have to buy shit though and send it to Amazon fulfillment.

>>8860349
That's fair, don't expect you to feet into details on a Taiwanese stone throwing forum

>> No.8860372

>>8860365
>That's fair, don't expect you to feet into details on a Taiwanese stone throwing forum
he wouldnt tell you face to face either. Its how he makes his money.

>> No.8860397

>>8860329
sure it is newfriend and sure they are.
but wait you mean to tell me there isn't a single sellable product that has free DHL shipping or is shipped from us warehouses ?
nonononono
>32809319044 sold over 100 of those in the past months
>30-50% profit (depends on model)
>comfy

>> No.8860409

>>8860365
anon I already told you what I sell. that's 50% of the whole scheme. telling you how I do it would be going full retard.

>> No.8860423

>>8860365
>Amazon you actually have to buy shit though and send it to Amazon fulfillment.
higher barrier of entry keeps many out.
it's similar on shopify: when a customer orders, you have to buy their product with your own money. you won't get the customers money until a week+ later when starting out. later you can enable 2 day rolling payouts from Stripe assuming that's the payment gateway you go with.

>> No.8860428

>>8860409
do you get hits on the genreal sex shit? or the weirder the kinkeir the better? like sounding stuff seems good for weirdos. I also saw this gay mask for faggots that use poppers

>> No.8860478

>>8860353
I tried dropshipping on amazon (w/ stealth account*). It works but I got suspended for being greedy and listing too many items some of which were brand infringements and I didn't know so my account got taken down in a few days. Still managed to sell about 1000$ worth in those few days. So if you're from the US you could give that a try.
Etsy also works pretty good but your items need to look handmade or vintage because they'll close you down they don't.

My advice is to follow Mark from the NO BS group because he's for real and you will make money if you keep at it.
Primary advice would be to start selling on platforms then once you get the hang of it go into solo with shopify or wordpress/alidropship.

*I'm eastern european and have a lot of problems getting accounts on selling platforms.
I really wanted to try ebay but I created the account tried to list 1 item. Suspended. Fuck you ebay!

>> No.8860512

>>8860478
>Fuck you ebay!
ebay is shit. they rape the seller with fees. I have an amazon account already. I just dont have enough money to risk buying something thats going to sit in my garage again

>> No.8860520

>>8860478
With Amazon don't you need to actually hold inventory though?

>> No.8860538

>>8860520
yes. you do. I still have some shit that wouldn't sell.

>> No.8860544

>>8860428
the majority of sales are vibrators&dildos so yeah classic stuff works best, then comes ass stuff then fetishes (I've sold whips, urethra plugs and other weird stuff too) but they also sell pretty well too. Hell I've even sold sex dolls but they're a hassle because if they're faulty or the customer is shady you could get fucked for 100 up to 3-400 $ so I stay clear of those now.

>> No.8860569

>>8860512
dropship then. the no bs dropshipping guy has a friend that he features in a few of his videos that makes a shitton dropshipping on amazon but out of all selling platforms it's the hardest to work on. their shipping times and performance scrutiny are off the charts so you better be on fleek if you wanna dropship on their platform.

>> No.8860578

>>8860538
I'm in a Manhattan apartment so I want to avoid that if possible

>> No.8860600

>>8860520
no you don't lol. you can dropship and if you do it successfully and have a product that sells well you can go into fba and make $ on autopilot. amazon is top notch in terms of sales, I literally had an order within hours of listing my first item but VERY HARD to dropship on because of high standards.

>> No.8860631

>>8860600
wow thats twice in a thread that im wrong. Kudos.
I know that they have srs restrictions on selling stuff.

>> No.8860633

Here's another freebie for those of you who are already dropshipping.
LoL Surprise Dolls (high sales, hard to find good supplier)

>> No.8860653

>>8860600
>>8860631
What are the restrictions? Basically no counterfeit brand shit or sex stuff?

>> No.8860660

>>8860631
they have but if you manage to stay withing their guidelines (most important is to have item shipped within 3 days) they won't bother you.
also it's best to stay away from big ass worldwide brands` products like oral-b(which got me suspended)

>> No.8860668

>>8860633
haha people really buy this shit?

I can never find a good product. Does the guy youtube guy delve into it.

>>8860653
from my understanding they want to keep amazons brand good. So you gotta work your way up and be in good standing with them

>> No.8860687

>>8860653
sex stuff is accepted on amazon. vapes aren't.
yes about the fakes but the most important one I wrote above.

>> No.8860720

>>8860668
Yeah I understand why Amazon does what it does and why because of this their sales rate is off the charts compared to other platforms.
The yt guy doesn't give many tips on "winning" products but does show how to dyor and shit like that. Even after I started to be successfull at it I still listen to him in the background when I work because it's good to learn from others' experience.

>> No.8860728

>>8860668
>>8860687
Weird that vapes aren't, but I'll look into it. Being in the us the shorter shipping times are a huge plus

>> No.8860737

>>8860728
they are anti smokeing or some shit. Acutally it had to do with it not being fda approved

>> No.8860787

>>8860737
Prolly has something to do with minors being able to buy off Amazon.

>> No.8860802

How do people handle competition? Do you just not worry about it and focus on ads and SEO?

>> No.8860806

>>8860787
or that. its this alidrop a plugin? or their actual site?

>> No.8860833

>>8860787
Sorry for all these questions, watched a few of no bs videos and he's good, I like how genuine he feels, but with Amazon I'm still confused a bit how you actually dropship with it. What's the process?

>> No.8861102

>>8860802
what competition ? if you avoid major brand there's always room in the market.
>>8860806
it's a woocommerce plugin. My first store was using it. it's actually pretty good and Oberlo is a great time saver.
>>8860833
>get amazon account
>find items to sell (suppliers)
>list items on amazon
>sell

But amazon is a bit more complicated than just the basics listed above. You have to take into account stuff like funds being held for 2 weeks before release. You have to make sure you can use said suppliers to dropship (some of them strictly forbid it, you can go around this but its not recommended until you're experienced enough) you also have to make sure said suppliers ship within 72 hrs or your sale will be canceled.
The low hanging fruit of dropshipping are ebay and etsy from my experience. But all sales platforms have their own +&-s.

>> No.8861128

>>8861102
>Oberlo
wait I mixed up the info oberlo is for shopify but alidropship has the same features as oberlo. sorry it's been a year since I used alidropship.

>> No.8861175

>>8861102
The competition of there being other online sex shops for example. Most people will just buy from the first result on Google.

>> No.8861178

>>8861128
Do you sell all your stuff in the same website or do you create themed sites?

>> No.8861212

put 20+ hours into starting up a store and social media and have got zero sales lmao. about to give up but I guess i'll keep this pathetic attempt up until I know it's RIP

>> No.8861215

>>8861128
>sorry it's been a year since I used alidropship.
why?

>> No.8861220

>>8861175
google ads then :)
a good site is a big plus but seo is slow so relying on google search to bring customers is stupid. search will bring you customers after a while (a long while) if your website is relevant and have alots of visits to it (if you make it successful through ads or any other way you want to bring traffic to it).
Again: if you don't have solid experience I REALLY recommend you start selling on platforms not on your own store so you get accustomed to the work and problems.

>> No.8861227

>>8860050
No, they buy from alibaba, and you should too.

>> No.8861243

>>8861178
Both options are valid but if you get into really specific niches a niche site will be better. If you don't and will try different products just make something general and when you think you have a good product promote it directly your target audience will not care it's on a niche site or general site but they WILL CARE if your site looks scammy or thrown together crap.

>> No.8861246

>>8861102
That seems pretty risky. It's almost for a quick few bucks instead of trying to start a legitimate business

>> No.8861276

>>8861215
well we're going back to what I said. it's ok to go and learn from gurus but if you stick to that you'll only have a moderate chance at moderate success. If you want to be (((comfy))) you need to upgrade and do your own thing. No money making method is dead or obsolete on the internet but if they're overused you need to add a twist or something unique to it to make it.

>> No.8861299

>>8861227
TRUE. If you do it long enough you'll notice that when a product goes out of stock it goes from all stores or at least most and the remaning few will up the prices too fucking high for profits. So it only makes sense to conclude that they all either dropship or source from the same supplier from alibaba taobao or other shit like that.

>> No.8861310

>>8861276
no i mean. is it a shit tool?

>> No.8861323

>>8861246
this is a legitimate business if you make it legitimate and do accounting and pay taxes.

>> No.8861340

>>8861323
Amazon dropshipping is risky I meant. Amazon fba, AliExpress dropshipping, etc is definitely legitimate.

>> No.8861405

>>8861310
it has some shortcomings like colliding with some other plugins but you can get around them with ease. If you don't want a big hassle go with shopify+oberlo use https://www shopify com/lifehacker to get 21d instead of 14d trial and go nuts. but before you do read. I would recommend at least a 1m research period to find out what +&- come with shopify and then some time researching products.

>> No.8861411

>>8858925
I have 10,000 tshirt source files for Shopify + Teespring in a Dropbox if anyone wants to buy them with crypto.

I get 1-2 sales a week but its hands off.

>> No.8861419

>>8861340
Yeah. Amazon expressly forbids dropshipping on their platform but it's not like you're risking jail time.

>> No.8861440

>>8861411
did the teespring amazon integration fail eventually ?

>> No.8861457

>>8859429
Yeah, I have to agree and I've been doing this shit since 2011. It becomes more miserable with each year that passes though and I've scaled back a fair bit so it's less demanding.
Good luck to the OP though, I'm no fan of the shopify, aliexpress and social media ad combo, but it's still better than being a worthless neet.

>> No.8861566

>>8861457
What do you sell?

>> No.8861579

>>8861566
by the way he's speaking I'd bet it's fad items. whatever's trending right now.

>> No.8861808

>>8859904
how do you advertise such things since social media ads are out of the question? i wanted to get into smoking paraphernelia but i don't know how to market it (other than face to face, or cold calling/emails)

>> No.8861887

>>8861579
do you sell the cheaper shit more or higher quality?

>> No.8861910

Cheers for the info anons, really appreciate it!

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>>8860089
only turned traffic back on yesterday. had to pause for a bit to get some pajeets trained up

>> No.8862451

>>8861910
It's good to have a thread that's not all pinkies and shitcoins

>> No.8862476

>>8861566
I'd prefer not to say as the competition is low and I've cornered the market pretty much. The majority of my competition is utterly clueless and I'd like to keep it that way. I used dropshipping to bulk up the product lines and so when I silo'd the ecommerce sites, it had a good number of products to make it more effective. Also helped with the ebay/amazon stores too.
The dropshipping side of it has just got more miserable as time goes on. Quality levels have dropped since then, ebay and amazon still hate sellers and general public are mostly retarded. Maybe I've just been doing it too long? I've made my fortune out of this shit, but just know what you're getting into, especially if you intend to do this properly.
>>8861579
Lol, you'd definitely lose that bet.