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8702585 No.8702585 [Reply] [Original]

Countach lp400 for me and a huge plot of land in the midwest

>> No.8702605

high end gaming PC, new desk

>> No.8702623

>>8702585
Literally every car journo who gets to drive one of those says It’s horrid

>> No.8702625

>>8702585
My freedom

>> No.8702643
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A hot meal. This bear market has ruined me...

>> No.8702646
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>>8702585
The only car for a proper /biz/tard

>> No.8702668
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>>8702585
>2014 Toyota Corolla Altis
I'm a simple man.

>> No.8702695

>>8702646
>fucking opel vectra assembled by a bunch of italians and styled by someone on meth
It will break down in a week, people will say you're a fucking bandwaggoner that fell for alfa meme and bought ugliest one and you will hate yourself for not buying an actual car with the money you paid for this piece of shit.

>> No.8702706
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Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GPhnKj8t1c

>> No.8702712

im getting myself a kirino dakimakura

>> No.8702729

>>8702605
will never make it

>> No.8702739
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8702739

A 1977 Ferrari 308 GTS

>> No.8702742
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8702742

im really passionate about fishing. I will get so much different fishing equipment if i make it.

>> No.8703036

>>8702585
The midwest? Are you retarded?

>> No.8703054

>>8703036
What's wrong with that?

>> No.8703066

>>8702585
A normal reliable Japanese car and a regular apartment in a decent area. The rest in low risk low management investments.
Then proceed to live like an average middle class guy so I can meet a nice girl without worrying about her being a gold digger.
Then probably mantain that lifestyle forever,.

>> No.8703121
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Reinvesting in some medium sized women only private gym in the rich neighborhood of my city. Enough soccer moms to afford a 100$ membership. Going to be hiring yoga, zumba, boxing and crossfit instructors. Upsell them on wine tasting sessions, spa stays and so on. Once money comes from there I'll franchise into other neighborhoods and buy me a fucking yacht with 20% of my monthly profits.

>> No.8703169
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>>8702585
Old big house with a lot of land in the middle of nowhere and then become a survivalist like Varg. Unironically.

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>>8702585
Every book on my goodreads for less than 10k
Porsche GT3RS
A comfy, isolated cabin where I can go skiing, make music and creampie my aryan wife all day

>> No.8703220

Buy some land in Finland, build a house and live in peace.

>> No.8703232

>>8703169
This. I fucking hate cities.

>> No.8703237

>>8702695
KEK

>> No.8703247
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>>8703220
And marrying a based Finnish girl and raising based children. Almost forgot.

>> No.8703327
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8703327

Vintage windbreakers and white high top sneakers

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>>8702585
God damn that car looks like a giant anteater
why the hell would anyone buy it?

>> No.8703459

>>8703066
Get a nice second hand well looked after lexus. Previously owned by a retired White man who hasnt treated it like shit. Buy a modest apartment as well as numerous other apartments to rent out. Redecorate own apartment with really nice shit but in a tasteful way. Spend money on expanding my whisky collection and learn how to cook.
Spend days going to the gym, managing stock portfolio, reading and playing chess.

>> No.8703487

>>8702729
>not buying retarded depreciating assets like sports cars means you'll never make it
when did /biz/ get infected with normies?

when i make it i will drive a civic like i do now

>> No.8703500

>>8703353
cause it's the only good lambo unless you stuck in 90s and want diablo

>> No.8703528

>>8702585

>some gay sports car and land

What are you gonna do with the land faggot? You're clearly a guido wannabe with no real skills, anyone with self respect and a single good reason to own land would buy a truck.

>> No.8703547

>>8703247

You will never speak fluent Finnish and your kids will have Finnish Heritage Disease.

>> No.8703589

>>8703547
>Finnish Heritage Disease
We just call that autism in the rest of the world

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>ITT: things you'll buy after making it

>> No.8703828
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>>8703220
I am actually from finland. Why would you like to come here?
This is not a good place to live for rich people.
Many wealthy people are moving away from here because government doesn't encourage success.

>> No.8703885
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>>8702668
Nice me too, if I make it big might pick up one of these instead of a civic

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>> No.8703958
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>>8703943
>>8703943

>> No.8703975

>>8702585
My freedom.
The only thing I care about is the day I retire and can do the things I enjoy without worrying about my savings and future.

>> No.8704027

>>8703828
Ah, that's right. Forgot all about hearing about that meme where you get fined on accounts of how much wealth you posses. Still, love your country, plenty of beautiful women and relaxing forests. Or am I wrong?

>> No.8704093

a ranch in Texas with a river going through it, lots of wells, lots of game to hunt.. with barns to fill with mining equipment and a place to build a hicock45-style gun range

>> No.8704116

>>8704027
Yes women and nature are good.
The only bad thing is the too socialist government/politics.
So big taxes for owning a nice car for example. Its very difficult to have a luxury lifestyle in here when government wants everyone to be equal and that means equal to lazy poor jobless neets.

>> No.8704130

>>8703943
where is that???

>> No.8704144

>>8703208
Exactly my plan

>> No.8704148
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8704148

Pic related and a huge mansion in phuket. I'd then proceed to bang hookers on an hourly basis until I become tired of life and off myself.

>> No.8704159

>>8704130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26JQgEEWH5Y

i personally would nevver move to atlante but i would like to rebuild the house in a other location

>> No.8704203

>>8704116
Is it really that bad in Finkand? Are the stereotypes about drinking vodka and stabbing each other true? Tell me Anon, redpill me on Finland.

>> No.8704260
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>>8704144
We're gonna make it brah

>> No.8704278

>>8703943
Fucking snobby shores is always a blood bath.

>> No.8704314
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>>8703208
You will not make it. Girls don't give a shit about a fancy car if your house is a shithole, unless you are Chad (no one here is).

>> No.8704319

>cook all my favorite expensive foods
>fund some game dev
>install my own local fiber network
>buy a lot of drugs

>> No.8704349

>>8704314
This guy has a point. Guys build aesthetic bodies to impress women but mostly end up impressing other dudes, same thing with the car.

>> No.8704362

>>8702643
well la dee da mr frenchman

>> No.8704392

shit-hits-the-fan bunker

>> No.8704428
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>>8703247

>> No.8704493
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>>8704349
FACE

>> No.8704500

>>8702712
>not Felix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh2U1TOOynQ

>> No.8704549
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>>8702585
My first "big" purchases:

I'll fix up my 2000 Buick Regal, it needs a steering rack and some paint work. I'd also like to give it some new suspension.

Maybe also buy a used KTM 990 SMT to replace my current shitbike, accompanied with some new riding gear.

>> No.8704571

>>8703169
sounds comfy if you could get a smart conservative non ugly gf

>> No.8704577
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>>8704203
It really depends in which part of finland you are.
There are cities where everyone is depressed and the only thing you can do in those cities is: Ryyb&Narc which means Drink and use drugs. One of these shithole cities is Oulu, another one is Kouvola.
Summers in Finland are really nice, Not too hot not too cold. Women are the easiest to get laid in whole europe (but finnish men are so passive and shy that many are still virgins)
Forests and nature itself is very beautiful, Finns usually own a small summer house in a forrest where they go on a vacation to relax and catch fish. We have sauna in every building even in the capital city. Making business or getting rich in Finland is very difficult because so much burecrausy and taxes. But life for poor people is reallyeasy and comfortable because of wellfare and other aid.
In capital city many people don't own a car unless they really need it for a job, And bicicles are very popular here in capital. (also driving license costs up to 3000€ in total, cause it has 3 steps)

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>>8704577
this is the beautiful nature that i like

>> No.8704603
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8704603

I don't want a car, i want one of these. And I don't even have to make it to get one. A small rise and I am there, just need to cash out

>> No.8704606

>>8703459
Pretty comfy desu

>> No.8704658

>>8704577
>Women are the easiest to get laid in whole europe
Is this good or bad?

On one hand it's easier to get FWBs and one night stands if you're into that, but on the other, if you want to settle down, would you want to marry a girl who grew up in a culture where it's normal to sleep around?

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>> No.8704689

>>8703487
>$50k in 1980
>400k currently
>Depreciating

>> No.8704717

I like to camp and backpack in my spare time. I would unironically buy thousands of acres near in a triangle between Boise ID, Jackson WY, Missoula MT. Then develop remote areas and build expensive off the grid contemporary homes and sell them to the rich so I only have white neighbors.

>> No.8704729

>>8704577
Thank you brother, it's a good insight for me to think about for how long it'd be worth to stick around. Glad to hear about the women part, for sure, I thought all of them kept to themselves and wouldn't talk to others. I myself am from Denmark, so I feel what you are saying, especially about the drivers license.

>> No.8704743

>having fast cars
>not moving to germany
it's like you don't want to be able to legally drive it at 300km/h on your way to church or something

>> No.8704749

>>8702623
This. Too much money for a meme shitbox.
I'l get an LFA

>> No.8704750

>>8704743
This.

>> No.8704751

>>8704717
>Then develop remote areas and build expensive off the grid contemporary homes and sell them to the rich so I only have white neighbors.
>yfw you end up getting a bunch of rappers and NBA players.

>> No.8704765

>>8702739
That's not a testarossa

>> No.8704800

>>8702585
Only niggers buy depreciating assets like overpriced sports cars. You will never make it with that mindset.

>> No.8704809

>>8703885
holy shit you are boring. at least buy something cheap but high quality and fast like a new Dodge challenger or a new Mazda MX5

>> No.8704826
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>>8704314
>Implying the car was to attract girls
Just lmaoing @ your projection boyo
And you don't need to be Chad to get hot women

>> No.8704963

>>8704743
>driving your lambo to church
you better really not give a fuck because you'll get worked hard for donations and it'll be awkward if you don't give a large amount. also, can a christian even buy a lambo? I know there are those fundamentalist televangelists who drive ferraris and try to angle it as "God provided for us" but really. if you are going to spend $250,000 + on a recreational toy which is an environmental and public safety hazard why are you even wasting your time bothering with church? I'm not judging, btw, I would choose the lambo

>> No.8704993

>>8702668
I thought about it but went for the Mazda 3 GT 2017 instead. This thing is just too boxy. It's not a bad choice by any means, reliable.

>> No.8705023

>>8704314
The car is not to attract hot women, nor is the cabin. You don't attract women by what you possess unless you want absolute thots.

>> No.8705082

>>8704672
>>8704672
>bear's_last_resort.jpg

>> No.8705084

Reinvesting in my own startup tech company (not crypto)
Purchase a home in my home city
And, this anon >>8703885 has the right idea.

>> No.8705101

>>8702605
>being this poor

>> No.8705153

>>8703054
Literally nothing. He's probably an urban rat living in a shitty 600 sqrt apartment for $1500/mo among hordes of minorities.

Meanwhile people are living like kings in Northern Chicago suburbs 15 minutes from downtown Chicago with massive houses and mostly White communities (some Asians, Indians).

>> No.8705171
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I will have a Roman galley built for me and with it Im going to ram and sink refugee boats in the Mediterranean

>> No.8705195

>>8705171
10/10 keep us posted

>> No.8705294

>>8705171
just kickstarter that shit

>> No.8705309

>>8702585
omg dude that car is an absolute beast but I heard it really is as difficult to drive as they say

would definitely mire if I see you driving it though

>> No.8705326

>>8704800
>countach
>depreciating

>> No.8705332

>>8705023
Wrong. A car is used to attract attention. If you are an incel, attention is no benefit to you as you are repulsive to look at, and women want nothing to do with you.

This is why Chad can get a new Camaro or C class Mercedes and get mad pussy meanwhile if you are an incel and buy a high end Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, etc.. you still won't get laid.

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>>8705195

Imagine how these subhumans first think that they will be saved and then notice that the rescue ship does not stop

>> No.8705342

>>8703353
never laughed harder at a /biz/ post

>> No.8705347

>>8703943
Nice desu

>>8704148
Old now but still very good.

>>8704314
True. This is why manlets like myself under 6 feet travel to get a wife in poor countries. They are very much impressed with boring things like wealth, cars, stability.

>>8704603
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

>>8704743
Nice try Ahmed. Germany has so many rapefugees now people are leaving in droves. Autobahn ain't worth it no more

>> No.8705361

>>8702585

A two story brick in the prestigious sector of my big city. And a townhome uptown to use as an Airbnb investment.

>> No.8705367

>>8702605
spotted the /v/irgin

>> No.8705430

>>8703247
Finnish girls are hardly better than the ones you are used to. Get one from the baltics instead

>> No.8705443

>>8702605
>playing games
you ll never make it

>> No.8705457

>>8705332
Learned this the hard way after 35 years. Wish someone would have told me this in my teens. Chad can almost do almost no wrong and gets credited for any success. I think people only figured this out en mass in the last 5-10 years.

Getting rich will get you comfy and that's pretty much all you can expect from it. For getting pussy, or even a wife, expect to spend a ton of money flying overseas to pay some.

>> No.8705535

>>8702585
My peace of mind and a therapist.

>> No.8705971

>>8705457
this

>> No.8706086

>>8703589
KEK

>> No.8706123

Good goy, spend all your money instead of re-investing it in the market.

>> No.8706151

>>8702668
Me too but a Mark X. Muh only 1 dealership in Japan sells them exclusivity

>> No.8706156

>>8706123
Good goy, keep funding (((the market))). You don't need to enjoy your life anyway.

>> No.8706180

>>8702585
You're not going to make it because
>you bought at 19k and crypto is dead.
>You didn't make millions of dollars margin trading because only 5% of people who attempt that actually succeed meaning there's a 95% chance you're a LARPing faggot if that's the angle you're playing.
>If you did own BTC before 2017 it's because you are a fucking sick disgusting darkweb pedophile loser who deserves to die.
>There's an 80% chance all your "USD" is in Tether, and Tether is a scam.
KYS faggot.

>> No.8706195

>>8704963

Does a Lamborghini fit through the eye of the needle gate in Jerusalem?

>> No.8706209

>>8702585
100-200 acres, with a river running through it. Preferably a natural pond and some hot springs.

>> No.8706217
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>>8702585
Guro from AyaSwan

Vore from ForeverNyte

Oh god I find fucking Renaissance of guro/vore art

>> No.8706220

>>8703169
Did that for a while. It's boring and a shitty way to raise kids. We are social creatures.

>> No.8706396
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>>8702585
An Audi Quattro B2 because, rally

>> No.8706434

>>8706396
nice but i would never drive it
reasons :
there are only 200 of them ever made
the price is more than 500k

so get a nice audi s2 replica its a lot cheaper and so much fun to drive offroad

>> No.8706529

>>8706434
I just think it would be nice to have, take out to the occasional auto meet for 'mires, and every once in a blue moon when the stars align take it out on some empty back road and just unleash it the way it was meant to be.

>> No.8706559
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A comfy home next to the nature but not too far from the city, open up a weightlifting gym

>> No.8706617
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>>8702585
KSG
I'm not going to make it.

>1600 invested in stocks back in November
>hodl lmao because of trading fees
>now worth 300
>6000 invested in buttcorns back in November
>now worth 3000
>was actually worth 11k for about 2 sweet glorious days

I've seen the light at the end of the tunnel.
It was but a mirage
It'll never come back in time for summer
I just wanted to go on a vacation and pay off high interest debts.
Haven't taken a day off for an actual vacation in years. All work, no play.

>> No.8706642

I don't even care about getting a new car or house, I just want my freedom back.

>> No.8707005

>>8704809
>Buying a new car
>Not buying lightly used, good quality car for 50% of the price.

>> No.8707080

>>8706642
> midwest
Only for amerifags
I want a villa in Southern France:
> mild climate
> sea nearby
> mountains nerby
> a dozen of national parks nearby
> cheerful ppl (sure, poltards gonna say there are many nignogs, but they are not that bad)
> major opera festivals in pretty much every big town nearby
> a sitting train trip away from Paris

>> No.8707226

>>8705332
You're a retard, you think I'd need a car to attract women when i already sleep with one every night while barely earning minimum wage?

>> No.8707321
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>> No.8707663

>>8702605
I can buy that with my initial investment you poor fuck.

>> No.8707669

>>8705347
lol at having to resort to gooks and manlets

>>8704826
>And you don't need to be Chad to get hot women

Yes you do, unless you want an used up golddigger.

>> No.8707687

Get a nice modern flat in central london, remodel the place to my liking. . A car that's not too expensive but reliable and looks decent enough. The usual electronic shit, doesn't have to be top of the line (PC, Phone, eReader, TV, etc.)

Leave some for traveling, joining clubs to learn new shit, reinvest the rest. My only goal is to have enough money to not worry about paying the bills. I don't really care about fancy shit or being a multi millionaire. I'd be fine with working, because I like what I do. I just hate the idea of being forced to work for the rest of your life just so you can retire "to enjoy the rest of your life". Might as well end it right now.

>> No.8707713

>>8703487
Pretty sure a PC is way more depreciating in value than a lambo.

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>>8703589
Fuggg :DDD

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If it ever goes on sale

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>>8703169
M A X C O M F O R T

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8708083

I'll buy БeлAЗ-75710 and a place to ride on it.

>> No.8708197

I'd just move out of my 3rd world shithole and find a decent mid tier condo somewhere

>> No.8708392

>>8707799
>Angular rustbucket

>> No.8708735

>>8707080

>sure, poltards gonna say there are many nignogs, but they are not that bad

>nignogs

>not that bad

you will never make it with that attitude.

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>>8702585
I'd buy whores. Lots of whores.

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>>8705082

>> No.8709073

>>8709001
nutting every day into some new 10yo thai pussy or asshole. it’s the best when they are not used up yet. also when they get sold and are still very young they scream and cry a lot which makes it even better.

>> No.8709101

tfw you find out that all designs made before 2000 are superior to anything designed after 2010

>> No.8709102

>>8702585
Go towards my wedding and a nice first home potentially.

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>> No.8709199

>>8705171
the hero we need

>> No.8709464

>>8708392
Post something better then faggot

>> No.8709518
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8709518

I want this.

>> No.8709539

>>8702585

the dip

>> No.8709560
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8709560

1981 Pontiac Trans AM FireBird
Anti Air Craft Gun
A lot of land down in alabama

>> No.8709581

>>8709001
Absolutely repulsive

>> No.8709587

>>8705023
>this level of delusion

>> No.8709647
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8709647

>>8703353

>> No.8709689

>>8709581
ok pedo

>> No.8709962

>>8706220
That's why you invite more friends and folks in and create a homestead AC3 style

>> No.8710093

>>8709518
is that the avalon green?

>> No.8710177

>>8710093
Sonoma Green

>> No.8710497

>tfw already made it but can't bring myself to make even slightly unnecessary purchases
must have researched laptops the other day for 3-4 hours but didn't pull the trigger because i already have an older one that still works