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JAPAN'S NIKKEI 225 FALLS 2% TO 18,171.66 AT MARKET OPEN

It begins.

>> No.866571
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>> No.866574

Asian markets open in the red; Japan still getting hit bad..
Nikkei -2.8%
Topix -3%
ASX 200 -0.6%
KOSPI -0.1%

>> No.866578
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Nikkei coming off strong.

>> No.866581
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HOLD STRONG LADS

>> No.866584
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More red as expected.

>> No.866587

I have the biggest doom boner right now.

>> No.866589

>>866564
Yet S&P futures traders have pushed the price of US stocks up 1.73%
emini S&P trading at 1903.50

>> No.866591
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-3,5%

>> No.866595
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You know what we need?????

MORE FUCKING Q.E. THAT'LL FIX EVERYTHING SHINZO ABE WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU?

>> No.866598

Sooo when does shanghai open?

>> No.866599

>-4%

Yeah we're fucked

>> No.866600

What really freaks me out is that gold really hasn't moved much at all in the past 24 hours.

Every single stock market around the world is falling and gold prices are stagnant.

This crash isn't following the script.

>> No.866603

>>866598
40 minutes? I could be wrong

>> No.866608

>>866600
I think most would agree its a correction not a crash

>> No.866609

>just started investing
>have never seen any market in the green
this is getting depressing

>> No.866614

>>866609
dca over the next few months friend, you'll see those green figures soon

>> No.866618

BUY ILMN ON THE LOW BUY ILMN ON THE LOW BUY ILMN ON THE LOW BUY ILMN ON THE LOW BUY ILMN ON THE LOW BUY ILMN ON THE LOW BUY ILMN ON THE LOW BUY ILMN ON THE LOW BUY ILMN ON THE LOW BUY ILMN ON THE LOW BUY ILMN ON THE LOW

>> No.866619

>>866614
that's the plan, just couldn't have picked a much worse time to start

>> No.866620

>>866619
iktfb, a-all about the long term r-right

>> No.866627

>>866595
>tfw japan's already doing 100 bln per month of qe :^)

we've finally hit the point of no return

>> No.866635

>>866619
Are you kidding me, there's more money in a crisis than peacetime, I've made more money Friday and today than I have the whole rest of the year combined

>> No.866637

AUSSIES IN THE GREEN

GOD BLESS YOU ALCOHOLICS

>> No.866640

>>866637
Wait until trading day is over before you start celebrating ya cunt.

>> No.866645

>>866627
They are obviously not printing the money fast enough. Abe needs to step it up a notch and unveil unlimited Q.E. x3 as a finalfantasy-like limit breaker.

>> No.866647

>>866600
People are selling gold to cover margin calls.

>> No.866651

>>866587
Me too man! Humanity has (for the most part) become a disgrace and needs a nice reset :)

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>> No.866656

This is going to be brutal in a few weeks or months, market recovery will take 10+ years.

Probably best to pull out for at least 12-24 months.

I think we will end up with a major crash, at least 2008 levels but most likley much much greater.

Economic stagnation for years to come, the new investment return of 1.5% per a year......

Also I love how there were initial signs of major investors pulling out from US markets, and yet media/government keep telling people not to panic and not to do anything drastic.

>> No.866657

>>866656
can I try out your time machine anon?

>> No.866658

>>866656
I'm expecting the crash to end wednesday or thursday. There are just too many good companies to pick up on the low.

I think Asia is fucked though.

>> No.866663

>>866656
>Also I love how there were initial signs of major investors pulling out from US markets, and yet media/government keep telling people not to panic and not to do anything drastic.

Obviously.

If they didn't then the DOW wouldn't even exist by tomorrow lmao.

>> No.866674

>>866600
>past performance is not an indicator of future performance
There was one gold bubble in 2008, where prices rose to obscene levels. It's been on a slow slide ever since.

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Backwardation of TVIX when

>> No.866699

>>866688
it already did today, anyone who bought in the morning got fucked

>> No.866700

>>866699
>>866688

boys im holding TVIX right now. I got in at 11.67 . what is your predictions?

>> No.866711

>>866635

Bullshit

>> No.866720

This is 1929 again. China fucked up by pumping their market and preventing selling back in June. Europe has a credit and liqudity problem. The US has debt problem which was kept at ease with taxes, investors and market confidence. China was just a pump and dump market. Japan debt is a major issue and the current market downturn will force them to Banzai through it.

>> No.866734

CHINA CSI 300 STOCK-INDEX FUTURES FALL 4.3%

>> No.866742

who /leveragedcfds/ here

$500 deposit two hours ago and a few trades on the asx200 later I'm at $4500

>> No.866743

CHINA SHANGHAI COMPOSITE SET TO OPEN DOWN 6.4% TO 3,004.13

>> No.866748

and dow futures are in the green

>> No.866749

>>866743
I called this days ago, money from China would just flow into the American market

>> No.866755

>>866608
RIght, right ... like a $1,089 swing in the dow over an hour is just like normal shit? Like it's ever happened before? It was bigger than the flash crash of 2010. Something is not right.

>> No.866775

>>866720
>the current market downturn will force them to Banzai through it

More like "Kamikazee right into it". I don't see them recovering from this ever. (Also, don't forget that demographically Japan is one of the most fucked countries in the world).

>> No.866782

As an Australian, can someone tell me how this crash is going to impact me please.

>> No.866784
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>stock sinks
>Japan hit with another recession
>party hardliners demand war is the only answer
>public disapproval skyrockets
>Abe and his party are kicked out of power
>self defense clause stays intact
>anime and manga is saved

literally the only positive

>> No.866791

>>866755
He's just making the distinction that the market hasn't dropped a % level that would be considered a "major crash"... but I feel ya man. I see no problem with calling what happened thursday thru today a crash. Especially with those VIX numbers and that DOW swing.

>>866711
I'm in the same boat as >>866635
Friday was great but today was incredible. If you know what you're doing, this typa market is so fucking fun. I haven't been long anything since the end of July. It's been a good few days for those of us that are short oil and S&P. I entered my first long position last night when I bought some gold futures, but that shit has been going absolutely nowhere.

>> No.866799

>>866775
They're old as fuck, just like China; which is the oldest country in the world, demographically.
>>866782
Prepare for a the good times to end. China was your golden goose because they mined a lot of your resources.

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>>866782
You will have to take your shirt off and use it like a makeshift rag on your head while you scavenge the Great Sandy Desert for food so that you won't have to whore your sister out so not to starve to death.

>>866784
>Abe and his party are kicked out of power

You obviously don't understand Japanese society. NOBODY questions the Royal blood gold clan. Nobody.

>> No.866806

>>866782
You will be unemployed soon.

>> No.866807

>>866801

Abe has already lost his seat once. Society's problem isn't that they don't question it. Its that they don't vote unless the ultimate shitstorm is raining down upon them.

>> No.866818

HERE WE GO STEELERS

>> No.866819

>>866807
The shitstorm has been raining on them since the 90s. The Japanese people are very resilient, adaptive but most of all compliant, which has been their greatest strength and curse should idiots like Abe come to power. If the American or Australian people had to live the lives of the average Japanese person they would have revolted a long long time ago.

>> No.866853

>>866819

The "shitstorm" of recession affects all nations differently. Japan has mostly weathered its recessions to the point where normal life continues. Life under a Japanese recession would be considered great financial success in most of the world. The real problem is that they ultimately allow the conditions to linger for a critical and dramatic happening. In other words, normal life for them must come to a grinding halt before they are convinced that voting power converts into meaningful change.

>> No.866888

the nikkei is doing good now though

why is the yen getting weaker?

>> No.866892

Should I buy a Chinese market index? I mean it dropped what, like 90% in the past few months? T-there has to be something of value in China, right guys? It can't all be a government pyramid scheme.

>> No.866914

>>866892
nope

>> No.866936

If shanghai ends on a loss ~ 4% or so will US index drop also?

>> No.866943

>>866936
I wouldn't say that Shanghai has any bearing on how US markets will do tomorrow.
S&P futures are up 2% right now, but seem to be hitting serious resistance around the 1915-1920 levels.

>> No.867034

>>866564
Hope china markets take another huge dump today.

>> No.867042

>>867034
Just went through 5 enduring business days of adding 40k to my TD ameritrade. I'm ready to pounce. Need the Dow at 14000 though

>> No.867052

>>867042
Dow 5000! Early 2017.... would be nice.
I'm down 20K so just looking to break even lulz.

>> No.867057

>>866943
fuck, if S&P futures are up 2% should i sell my tvix?

>> No.867058

>>867052
Lol yeah just found out I still have 2k on my share builder. Have I been charged interest for having it siting there?

>> No.867061

>>867057
My best advice is markets might recover and your tvix could test 10$ but things should get shaky around fed rate time. Your call

>> No.867072

It is not that serious. Stop freaking out people. Everything is going to be okay.

>> No.867076

>>867061
you think the bleeding has ended this week?

>> No.867078

>>866658
>>866618
Really I work with niggaz at illumina and they are poised for growth with the X10
>>866618
>>866658

>> No.867082

Looks like everything is rallying nearing lunch time?

>> No.867361 [DELETED] 

Kramer losing his mind on CNBC

>> No.867362

Noob here

Is the SMI +2.64% strong because everyone is dumping there money there?

>> No.867367

European stocks looking good, seems like most are just letting China crash and burn

>> No.867370

DEAD CAT OR NAW

>> No.867394

>>867370
DED
E
D

>> No.867404

abenomics is dead

>> No.867486

>>867061
bull trap

>> No.867496
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Could have been a lot better, bought into FMG at 1.66, sold it an hour later for 1.73 right before it blew the fuck up to 1.86

>> No.867528

>>866574
Asx all ords up 2.5%

Immediate dead cat bounce of a sign of investor confidence growing after a lot of media encouragement ??????

>> No.867530

>>867496
You did good anon

You cut when you made a significant profit and you stuck to your strategy (by the sounds of it )

>> No.867546

>>867496
Profit is profit friend.

>> No.867565

>>866943
We'll definitely retest the lower levels soon enough, but we've gone down a lot very quickly. Positions need to consolidate for the next leg of the shake down.

>> No.867577

DJI in the green... How boring

>> No.867616

The way I see it... Knowing how manipulative this stock market is. We will go green for about 6-7 days to kill all those millions that did shorts or bought puts not even worried if the premium was too high. Now all those people are going to get fucked.

>> No.867639

>>867082
Food always rallies people.

>> No.867649

>>867577
bulltrap.

>> No.867732

>>867649
So when will it snap...

...Do bulltraps snap?

>> No.867766

>>867732
>>867649
sonn nugga

>> No.867876

This bulltrap will last a week then everyone will go back to "holy shit everything is still fucked up"