/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.856524]

eBay General:

[Anonymous No.856548]

>>856524
I can boost to platinum in less then 2 days in league of legends, but I have no idea how to sell on ebay.

[Anonymous No.856602]

I shipped a $130 item early this month. Didn't use Ebay's shipping thing since it was a custom package but entered the tracking number USPS provided me at the post office. The tracking status never updated, I re entered it and still hasn't changed. The buyer has never contacted me asking where it's at but afraid to ask if he received it because he then could probably say no and fuck me. What do? Is there a time period where I will be immune from this transaction?

[Anonymous No.856624]

>>856602
I am that buyer and I have contacted the police. You better watch out, bucko.

[Anonymous No.856627]

>made a paypal back in 2008 but never used it
>went to buy some shit off ebay recently
>try to use my credit card with paypal
>they want my bank account information and photo ID
>now they won't let me delete my account

FUCK paypal

[Anonymous No.856640]

>>856524
Quick question, I have a bunch of stuff I wanna list. I have 10 positive reviews from years ago (old account, used it only a couple times). What's my listing limit??

[Anonymous No.857207]

Ebay sucks. Short Sell

[Anonymous No.857533]

People been bitching a lot lately.

>sold 80 of these things all year
>not a single complaint
>get some smartass who thinks he knows everything bitching

I always have to deal with one jackass, no matter what.

Will be adding him to the block list.

[Anonymous No.857961]

>>856602

Call eBay.

>>856640
Probably more than a brand new seller.

>>857533
>Sell item.
>Buyer says it's missing a piece that was never pictured, described to be included.
>Starts INAD case.

ffs

[Anonymous No.858175]

>tfw sold neighbour's cabinet that they were throwing out for $30

Also, does anyone know of a good supplier for padded envelopes and other mailing materials?

[Anonymous No.858193]

>>858175

Seeing that standard now costs a few cents more than priority I would suggest getting usps boxes for free

[Anonymous No.858716]

>>858175
USPS, I don't even buy bubble wrap, just order their free padded envelopes and use those, then cover them up with a poly bag. Or use them as packing material.

Pretty sure you're not supposed to do that though.

[Anonymous No.858785]

Guys, I'm at a loss. How do you ship things that are more than 13 oz or can't fit in a small flat rate box without biting the bullet on shipping prices?

Are medium flat rate boxes the only other option?

[Anonymous No.858825]

>>858785

I'd check on the regional rate boxes. You will have to order them ahead of time since the PO doesn't stock them.

>>858175
Lot of people that use Uline. There are also some vendors on ebay that sell packaging stuff in bulk.

[Anonymous No.858919]

>>858716

You're not but fucking everyone does it. Well, I don't, because it's just easier for me to order the shit than wait on USPS to deliver in my area.

I get all of my bulk packaging on eBay. Poly mailers, bubble lined, have worked fine for years. The vaniller ones just look tacky.

[Anonymous No.858973]

>>858193
What even?

>$2.04 for 1-3 ounces + $0.25-30 for padded envelope.
>Priority Mail $5.05 for Flat Rate envelope (cheapest option)
>eBay gives me 150 extra listings as I have a basic store.
>Suddenly they've all been used today, even though I should have a bunch left..

also pic related, this shit is pissing me off.

[Anonymous No.859068]

So what's the catch with the *FREE* USPS padded envelopes?

I have a bunch of books to sell and they would be great! BUT if the catch is that I have to pay like, 5 dollars to ship in the FREE envelopes than that's kind of a fucking rip off!

[Anonymous No.859071]

>>859068

Ship books with media mail.

[Anonymous No.859074]

>>859071
>media mail.
I have never shipped anything in my life. Do I just take the book bare and all to the post office and they pad it up and ship it for me? Or do I have to buy some bullshit envelope and then take it to them unsealed so that they can see it's a book inside?

[Anonymous No.859096]

>>856548
i dont believe you , are you one of those fags that use bots feeding every game till level 30? how the fuck do you get to platinum ????? even if u used some sort of script or hack how do you avoid being paired with fucking noobs?

[Anonymous No.859124]

>>859074
>Do I just take the book bare and all to the post office and they pad it up and ship it for me?


No. You do all of that. Post office prices are higher, eBay prices are commercial base. Get a padded envelope/box and use Media Mail with eBay's shipping service.

[Anonymous No.859158]

>Buy item.
>Not as described.
>Seller approves return, but doesn't supply label.
>eBay won't provide one either, because shitty glitched returns system.
>Seller has 7 days to provide label, which can only be done by email.
>eBay has no way of seeing this, as it's outside of eBay.
>If buyer doesn't receive label from seller, buyer contacts eBay CS after than 7 days and receives refund, and gets to keep item.


Hmmmm...

[Anonymous No.859327]

Is there any point trying to sell shit on ebay if one does not have trusted chinese supplier?

[Anonymous No.859389]

>>858825
Uline is OK but their freight charge is rape. They ship to me from a warehouse in state but I've never seen a shipping charge less than $40. I suggest ordering at least 100 boxes to make it even halfway worthwhile, but experiment with different combinations because the rates are all over. If you're ordering foam peanuts, it's cheaper to order 2 12lb bags than 1 20lb bag.

[Anonymous No.859391]

>>859389
Actually I think it's cheaper to order 4 12lb bags than 1 20lb bag just because of how rapey the minimum shipping charge is on larger items.

[Anonymous No.859645]

>>859327

Yes. None of my shit comes from China. Everything comes from pawn shops thirft stores antique malls flea markets yard sales

Usually $3k a month after expenses

>that feeling when you sell a $500-1000 item in one day

[Anonymous No.859787]

>>859645

What kinda stuff sells pretty well?

[Anonymous No.859801]

>>859787
It varies a lot. Spend some time at some thrift stores and use the ebay app to find what products are going for.

There is no magic item that every garage sale has that is worth millions of dollars.

If you can't make at least 50% profit over what you pay, leave it on the shelf. Ebay and paypal eat up about 14% in fees.

Find some unique venues for profit. I used to buy storage lockers before it became a TV show and made hundreds to thousands on a locker. How you hardly get shit.

It also helps to know people who collect a certain thing. I have a buddy who fixes and flips cars, so I know he'll buy just about any car part from me that I come buy because he, or someone he knows will need it eventually. I don't get top dollar from him, but I turn a profit still and the item is my ownership for usually a few hours. Same goes with construction materials. A family friend owns a construction company and will give me cash in hand for any new/like new materials. Plus it's no questions asked on it since they have a very high turn over rate on materials (a lot of materials you buy at a good price were stolen from job sites or hardware stores, esp electrical and plumbing).

[Anonymous No.859837]

>>858175

You can actually buy them straight off of Ebay or Amazon. You might find something cheaper straight off of their own websites (because they don't get docked the 10-15% commission fee).

I prefer poly bubble mailers. Keeps water off and they look more professional although I do use the vanilla ones for some things.

>>858973

He was probably referring to the parcel shipping option. It's only cheaper if the box is huge else priority is usually cheaper regardless of weight.

>>859158

I've had to deal with shitty sellers that took forever to get me a fucking label for a mistake they made, all the while holding my money. Then they act surprised if I leave a negative... like I reached out to them, didn't open a case, and was patient but fuck me.

>>859327

You can sell virtually anything on there.

[Anonymous No.859844]

>>859801
>50% over what you paid
This. Seriously, you might think a 25% margin works but it doesn't. For as slowly as stuff might move online, you need every salevel to really count.

Source: a fool who tried selling new toys/collectibles online and would've fucking drowned without local conventions to prop up revenue

[Anonymous No.859845]

>>858785

What is it that you're trying to ship? I sell backpacks that weigh just a hair under two pounds. It's more economical for me to ship them in a big ass poly mailer instead of a medium flat rate box

[Anonymous No.859861]

>>859844
No worries, I did the same thing when I started.

>buy shit for $10
>Items sell for $13 consistently on ebay
>hold on to item for a month for 1-2$ profit

>>859845
The trick is to order all of USPS' supplies to try out different boxes. Also their flat rate bubble mailer is a godsend. 50 cents more than the flat rate small, but easily twice as big, plus fits unusual sizes.

Another one is the large flat rate game board box. I was getting raped in the ass on shipping a very heavy item, too big to fit into the large flat rate. The skinny rectangle medium and large flat rate boxes hold more volume than the square ones. Another really great one I found is their tyvek mailers. You have to send them priority by weight, but tyvek is strong as fuck. Plus free.

[Anonymous No.859931]

>>859844

I personally will buy something on a low margin IF I know it sells fast. Like the other month I picked up a Wii remote for $4. I put it up for 11 or 12 or something. It sold within an hour. Cost me around $4 in shipping and fees. So I probably made 3-4 but that was made real quick and went out with a bunch of other orders, so I just consider it free money.

[Anonymous No.859935]

>>859931
I'll do quick turn around items if they value is high enough or if I can get them in bulk.

[Anonymous No.859936]

Word to wise, Paypal can decide to take 1-4% and its basically how they fell that day... not happy with fees.

[Anonymous No.859940]

>>859861

Actually the other trick is the try to use Tyvek Bags as mailers. You can put anything in it and still only costs $5-6.

[Anonymous No.859965]

>>856602

Do not email him. I made that mistake once, and it became very obvious that he indeed did get the time. Sometimes the tracking fails.

[Anonymous No.860151]

>>859845
I'm trying to sell 3 amiibo. They're pretty bulky so they can't fit into any envelope and they way more than 13 oz. The only options I see are medium flat rate and regional boxes. I may just take it to Craigslist though. I'm netting almost nothing on eBay.

Just out of curiosity, how much would it cost for you to send out a back pack in a polybag? What option would you choose when buying a shipping label?

[Anonymous No.860223]

>>859965

This. I never email people. It's up to you if something happens. And I'm usually good with words to cuck people.

>2012
>someone bought some playstation joystick
>waited like 40 days to complain asking for a refund
>delayed back and forth
>they finally threaten to file claim
>go lol 45 days
>never hear from them again

Or how someone bitches about an item but I work words with them and they end up just leaving positive feedback and stop sending me messages. I've done this on many occasions over the years.

[Anonymous No.860229]

>>859787

[Anonymous No.860364]

>>859936
???

wtf are you smoking?

>3% + $0.30 per transaction.

[Anonymous No.860413]

>>859935
>>859931

Small fast profits ended up making you earn more per hour theoretically. If it takes you 15 minutes to make $20 on an item then that's like making $80 a hour.

Also it's not a bad idea to take on thinner margins if it means making a lot of money at once on a fast selling item. I'll take $1000 off of a $10000 investment if it only takes a week max instead of waiting for at least $2500 and possibly a month or longer.

[Anonymous No.860420]

>>859965
>>860223

No news is good news. There is 0 reason to reach out to that buyer unless you know there was an issue with an order and you need to inform them asap so you don't get a case opened up.

For cases Ebay will pretty much always side with the buyer. The only time they side on you is if you provided tracking and it says delivered, the buyer threatens negative feedback to extort you, or you get them to admit fault some sneaky way but that has to be pretty on point or they probably won't take it.

If the item was cheap Ebay will usually reimburse both parties just to shut everyone up. The highest I ever saw that was for something I had sold for $22.

[Anonymous No.860449]

>>859844
>25%
It can if you have a Private Label, I know a lot of Amazon people that really stick with at least a 40% ROI.

[Anonymous No.860458]

>>859787
Anything and everything, a big thing I say when scouting for inventory is ''Just because you wouldn't buy it, doesn't mean somebody else wont'' I bought a bunch of deer piss at my Walmart for filthy cheap, like a quarter a piece and a month later I'm all sold out. There were a bunch of price stickers on them until it finally reached that low, you could really fucking smell the ammonia in the store though and could tell the manager did not want them there, I myself had to keep it outside in a shed.

In a Facebook group I'm in someone sold a digital answering machine for like $150 or something, and this one other dude was super perplexed as to why someone would pay that much when a newer model was half the price. He didn't get that there was probably that one person out there with the exact same model that had probably broken and didn't want to learn a new one that would shell out a good chunk of change for it.

[Anonymous No.860554]

>>860364
Paypal wil actually take 4% if the buyer has a foreign Paypal account. For all the years they were part of eBay, there never was a way to stop a foreigner with a US proxy address from bidding and fucking you out of extra fees and hitting you with a SNAD if the item got lost overseas.

[Anonymous No.860557]

>>860413
But that assumes you're moving stuff at those thinner margins. If you aren't, you're giving stuff away for no reason. Collectibles may be different but there was zero interest in what I was selling when it was priced reasonably. But then it would go out of print and people were falling over themselves to pay 2-3 times as much. I was still able to charge reasonably at shows, however, because overhead wasn't killing my margins. It's still bizarre to me how I have more revenue from 6 days on the road than 359 days on eBay.

[Anonymous No.860638]

poorfag here

How can I avoid an incomming ebay invoice?

I sold two items and the ebay fee essentially negates the price of the second item so I sold it for free. I lost the item and the money for it because of the fee.

The fee is due on the 1st of september but my fund s in paypal will only be avaliable from the 3rd

Anyway way I can avoid this and not pay this ridiculous invoice??

[Anonymous No.860649]

can i sell animals on ebay?
how about foodstuffs?
if so, is it as horribly regulated and restricted as i imagine it'd be?
pig unrelated.

[Anonymous No.860702]

ok heres the deal , guy ordered something from me, i sent with tracking , tracking shows insufficient address , google maps can find the street but not the house number , buyer sends message after a month of being afk where is item and that their postman makes alot of mistakes on their delivery.
i received the item back but tracking shows item still in route towards me. buyer wants full refund or for me to send it back to same address :facepalm:

buyer smells like a scammer. what do i do ? can i keep the money and not refund , or just refund the cost of the item minus shipping , tracking shows item still somewhere else even though i got it back . can i avoid a negative feedback ??

[Anonymous No.860963]

>Send item by courier
>Courier attempts delivery three times without success
>Item is sent back to me
I'm assuming I'll have to give a refund but does that include the postage costs too?
What if they want another delivery? Do I make them pay for postage again?

[Anonymous No.861044]

>sell chinese watch (obviously dont mention that it is)

>some guy with no feedback (0.0%) and with a Nigerian last name who lives in NYC bought a watch

>got the money from an echeck

Should I bite and ship the watch or immediately cancel the transaction?

[Anonymous No.861050]

>>860702
Well for one, what the fuck are you selling?

[Anonymous No.861167]

>still waiting for retarded cunt to give me payment after 5 days

[Anonymous No.861187]

>>861044
If you got the money into your account then obviously ship the the watch ( maybe with tracking?)
Who gives a fuck if a customer is some nigerian scammer who probably used some stolen cc to pay you. Its not your problem, let ebay deal with it.

[Anonymous No.861369]

How do you deal with merchandise that went down in value. Thank god I only bought a sample, but it's makes me so paranoid.

[Anonymous No.861448]

>>861369

You sell it for what you got it for and move on...

[Anonymous No.861450]

>>861167


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU

[Anonymous No.861456]

>>861450
is there just no repercussions for not paying? from reading the resolution shit it seems like ebay just goes oh well I guess you aren't getting it after 4 days.. the person who bid before this bitch might have actually paid me so now I just get dick

[Anonymous No.861463]

>>861456

Nope :^)

>What's that? You're saying the buyer is wrong? You're a racist against every buyer! We're closing your account anon!

[Anonymous No.861465]

>>860702
>>860963
since tracking still shows item en route, can i stall in refunding ?

[Anonymous No.861489]

>>856524
Anyone here flip shit from Craigslist?

Any tips, typical items, etc?

[Anonymous No.861604]

>>861450
>mfw I have two buyers who haven't paid this week.
>mfw I have had multiple in the last month.

what even.
>mfw USPS is damaging my buyer's items.
>mfw items I receive are also being damaged.
>mfw 3 insurance claims this month already.

[Anonymous No.861964]

Some people will never understand

>Mfw she works 3 jobs and sleeps only 4hours a day

[Anonymous No.862001]

>>861964
>"ebay is a real job"
lol fag nice compensating.

[Anonymous No.862116]

Unrelated. But my delivery came earlier but pic related is its status. Will I get another next Friday?

[Anonymous No.862128]

k, so here's my question: what is keeping eBay so dominant? Basically, everyone agrees that eBay sucks, right? Its fees are obscene and it doesn't offer a ton of added value.

My feeling is that you need to somehow:
1. create a reputation system
2. break the network-effect cycle and somehow bootstrap an initial userbase of buyers and sellers

I think you could at least cheat 2 by convincing a bunch of eBay buy-it-now powersellers to join by offering them no fees and then passing on some of that discount to buyers, and manually importing feedback to cheat 1.

Everyone knows targeting a niche doesn't really work, as this has been attempted multiple times and only Etsy has ever really caught on.

I'm still bouncing around the idea in my head.

I think of all the 'big' Internet companies (Amazon, Google, Netflix, Twitter, Facebook, Paypal) that eBay is by far the most vulnerable to an upstart challenger.

[Anonymous No.862132]

>>862128
I forgot about Abebooks/Alibris. And there's Amazon Marketplace, of course. But you see my point.

[Anonymous No.862147]

>sold 14 items
>only three people have left feedback

[Anonymous No.862267]

>>862128
More people than you imagine have asked this question.

Awhile back, some guy on a big TF board (sorry, I run in toy collecting circles) started spamming about his new sales platform. No lie, he wanted a registration fee and something like 15% of every sale. I don't think he really didn't grasped why nobody was interested until I pointed it out.

But, see, this really common. Places you never heard of (and don't shop at) want registration/monthly fees. Places don't offer calculated shipping. Places don't support alternatives to Paypal. And so on.

I mean, sellers are mad about getting ripped off on shipping, hate Paypal, are upset about paying for zero exposure, etc...and these dummies won't even lift a finger to provide an alternative. To paraphrase John Wayne, overcoming the network effect is hard but it's even harder when you're stupid.

[Anonymous No.862276]

>>860702
Call eBay first, let them take notes on this matter. Then tell the buyer the address needs revising or they need another way of being able to receive the package as the address provided by them is undeliverable. Providing a confirmed address is the buyers responsibility, if you send it back again they are responsible for the return shipping. I don't believe it is a scammer just a really fucking dumb retard. And yes you can avoid a negative feedback, just don't explode on the buyer or anything and make sure to call eBay first. You may just want to issue the refund without taking out the shipping cost. Dumb retards like to think they are right and can be aggravated if they think they were wronged in the slightest way.

[Anonymous No.862278]

>>860963
You can take out your shipping cost if you want to, I generally don't do it as it's only around 2.50 and it's not worth having some retard give me a negative over it. Like i told the other anon it's the buyers responsibility to provided a sufficient address.

[Anonymous No.862281]

>>862267
The reality is that somebody's going to have to invest a little time building some functional pages, a few hundred bucks for hosting, more time pitching it on forums or something, and be satisfied with something like 2% per sale for awhile until it grows big enough to fuck the daylights out of people like eBay and Amazon did.

[Anonymous No.862285]

>>861456
Unpaid item strikes going on the buyers account if they fail to take action, that's about it. You can block people that have more than 3 or something in the past few months though, I remember not really liking the leeway I saw there.

[Anonymous No.862296]

>>861964
Hell I work at most 2-3 hours a day and I'm making $500 a week. It is a job, I just found one that fits my lazy lifestyle and it works for me.

The amount of work you put into this equals what you get out of it. When I bust my ass though I really fucking work hard.

You're an entrepreneur and she isn't and probably never will be.

[Anonymous No.862308]

>>862128
It's an online platform that can become a main or side stream of income. Fees are only outrageous if you think they are. Where else are you going to get the FUCK HUGE buyer pool of millions and not pay out the ass, if you're being raped by fees then you're doing it wrong.
I can list something on Craigslist in my local town and reach maybe a few thousand people, and hope that one of them is interested in the item and is willing to call, maybe haggle, meet up and buy. OR I can list it on eBay in 3 minutes and pay a few dollars in fees and shipping to reach millions with thousands of possible buyers and not have to shell out tons of $$$ to advertise the item everywhere. Even Amazon takes more fees out of a sale than eBay.

[Anonymous No.862337]

>mfw looking in PayPal, and seeing the total amount I've spent on USPS shipping in the last few months.

[Anonymous No.862449]

>>862267
I'm pretty sure people have done given that eBay makes fucking billions.

The big problem is figuring out how to get enough buyers and sellers to give a shit to be a viable alternative. You need to find an angle to make the site useful without a ton of users. I don't think no fees isn't enough.

The problem is, you can't really compete on auctions without the users, and you can't really compete on BIN when a small site inevitably ends up full of uncompetitively priced shit without the internal competition that eBay has. You need it to be relatively busy but not filled with utter shit, especially expensive shit.

I know how you'd start such a site if you have a shitload of capital to get it started but I don't have that.

[Anonymous No.862458]

>>861489
I do this, but with flea markets and thrift stores

The most important thing is to know what you're buying and selling. If you know what stuff is worth, you'll be able to find good deals and not get ripped off when selling things.

[Anonymous No.862498]

>>862337

>Using Paypal/eBay to ship
>Not being part of Stamps.com masterrace

>>862128
eBay is a monopoly, Bonanza has potential to take over but normies still see eBay as a safer place to shop since they think they're more protected because "everyone knows about eBay".

>>862296
They'll understand when they mistakenly buy from me :^ )

[Anonymous No.862500]

>>862449
That's why people start niche sites, where you have something of a built in base. Problem is they are stupid. They provide shitty tools missing obvious functionality, do zero advertising whatsoever, and think they can compete with similar fees to established players. It's the equivalent of a neckbeard staying in the basement and complaining about how there are no good women anywhere.

I remember how eBay started. How they pulled toy sales away from Usenet and Yahoo groups. They offered a search engine, a more standardized listing format, automated contact between parties, and charged a very nominal fee. If eBay had sicker it's dick and not done that or charged 10% off the bat, it never would've gone anywhere. Just like these dummies that don't deliver half the value and can't figure out why they can't dethrone eBay.

[Anonymous No.862501]

>>862500
>sicker
sucked, I mean

[Anonymous No.862529]

>>861044
You cancel and refund, or you wait for payment to clear and ship and hope for the best. I can't even ship when it's an eCheck because Stamps won't pull the address from eBay unless payment clears.

>>861187
It's an eCheck, so it's coming from the buyer's bank not his cc. Even if it was a cc, the real owner would just call their bank to cancel the payment. CC is easier to cancel/reverse payment than a debit card. So either way the seller is fucked. Paypal would hold the money for 20+ days, your acc would be detected until they made a decision to refund the both of you. Because either way the cc owner still gets their money back.

[Anonymous No.862811]

So I sold an old exercise bike, but the buyer hasn't made any contact about organising a pick up time. He's already paid, but I just want to get rid of it. How long do I have to wait until it's appropriate to cancel the transaction? It's already been a week.

[Anonymous No.862987]

The internet has evolved since the beginnings of ebay, so you won't see any more ebay copycats. They had a unique concept at the time, and there was no easy way to search the entire internet to find stuff.

Amazon, Yahoo, and many others also had successful auctions back in the 90's. The auction fad is over, people just want to buy it and not wait to see if they "win".

[Anonymous No.863095]

Explain to me why buying things from auctions on ebay at 3 in the morning on a weeknight when they are cheaper and then reselling them at high activity times will not net me a good profit.

[Anonymous No.863297]

>>862987
I argue this point with a friend on a regular basis. Human nature doesn't change. Stupid, suicidal decisions have killed more markets than "evolving" customers.

>>863095
This assumes a steady flow of people stupid enough to A) run a cheap auction on traffic-less eBay and B) do so at a time that was dead as a doornail even when there _was_ traffic.

[Anonymous No.863622]

>Buyer gives an offer.
>Send them a counter offer.
>They don't do anything.
>Offer expires.

EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME WHY

[Anonymous No.863885]

On the phone getting negative removed, cs approves to remove.

Start refreshing page to see if it's gone yet

>pic related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdh0TeGNsTw

[Anonymous No.865298]

>>863885

Took me 15+ calls just to get this POS feedback removed. Turns out I could've just used my other methods but I kept using the same one thinking it would work sooner or later.

[Anonymous No.865742]

>>862498
How exactly is stamps.com cheaper than buying usps through ebay?

[Anonymous No.865755]

>>863622
1)cancer
2)they find it cheaper
3)compulsive ebay shopper?

[Anonymous No.865758]

>>863885
>>865298
why the fuck do they keep removing your negative feedbacks? i understand if this was once or twice but every time i scroll past this shit thread i see you bragging about negative feedback removal.

[Anonymous No.865768]

>>865298
its easier to not get negative feedback to start with

[Anonymous No.865840]

So for a couple years now I've been going to various thrift stores in my area to buy clothes, books, and other miscellaneous things. But now I've accumulated a pretty big collection of stuff and I realized that I could be selling a lot of it to make some money.

So my questions are:

-If I already have an eBay account (on which I've sold about 30 items, all positive feedback), can I just use that? Or do I need to make it a "store"? And what exactly is the distinction of an eBay store vs. a regular seller?

-What's the best way to ship clothes (mainly shirts)?

-Any advice from those of you involved in something similar (buying stuff at thrift stores and reselling it online)? I did read some posts earlier in the thread about making sure your margins are worthwhile, that was good info.

I think I could make a pretty good run of it, my college friends are always complimenting my shirts so I think I have a decent eye for it. Plus I live in a nice area so we get a lot of high quality clothes just sitting in Salvation Army. Stuff like Banana Republic or Ralph Lauren in perfect condition.

Any advice would be appreciated

[Anonymous No.865851]

>>859096
id changed but I've played over 5k games

Everything in that game is easy although occasionally I get such a retarded team I can't win

[Anonymous No.865856]

Guys how do I grow when I reach the point when I can't ship all the shit by myself ? Do I hire someone?

[Anonymous No.865872]

>>865856
Is there any other option? HIre some highschool kid with a driver's license

[Anonymous No.865892]

Just had two orders... one from Bermuda, and one from Azerbaijan

>Azerbaijan

what the fuck is that even. Some muslim ex russian country that borders Iran

Yeah I canceled both of those orders.

[Anonymous No.865939]

>>865840
A store is like a subscription. You can use your regular account to subscribe to a store. They charge $20 per month for the lowest tier. It has 150 "free" fixed price listings, a friendly URL, very limited tools (old stores had way more customization), and a slightly lower final value fee. Remember, you pay the $20 whether or not you sell anything.

Personally, the store only became attractive when they cut the listings alloted to regular accounts. And even then, you need to be selling quite a bit for the math to work out. Was your 30 sales in 1 month? What did it work out to dollar-wise? Depending on the answer, opening a store for certain periods, if you open one at all, may be better than running one year-round.

[Anonymous No.865947]

>>865939
Thanks for the response, that clears up a lot for me. I think I'll probably just go with a regular account for a bit and gauge what my needs are.

Oh and the things I sold before were mostly just Magic the Gathering cards and blu-rays, it was over several months. Basically just getting rid of old stuff.

[Anonymous No.866213]

>>865758

Because it's for one item I sell alot of, let's put it this way.

>Angry Buyer got scammed on Craigslist
>Already anxious/infuriated they were dumb enough to be scammed
>Have to use eBay now to buy something that can help them fix their device

Instead of knowing how to use my product before buying, these idiots buy it then start asking me for instructions (which I don't offer). I'm not going to waste my time for $6.

So I set them up basically :^)

1. If they contact me before leaving negative
>Lose
2. If they contact me after leaving negative
>Lose
3. If they don't contact me
>"Omg it's a competitor, see he's not even replying to me trying to help" *puppy face*

etc..

My description is so vague that CS helps me everytime.

>>865768
You must not sell on eBay then

[Anonymous No.866252]

>Buyer claims item is missing parts.
>It's not.
>CS says I must accept return, and then I can call in and get refunded, and defect removed.
>Call in today.
>Sorry we can't do anything since you accepted return!

FUCK

[Anonymous No.866297]

>eBay sends me an email notifying me that SEVEN of my FUCKING listings have been ended.
>Doesn't really tell me why.

Welp, I guess not providing MPNs/ UPCs, and ISBNs along with selling parts worth $3 causes eBay to randomly throw a bitch fit and remove shit.

[Anonymous No.866414]

>>862337

>a blu blu blu

And not using a credit card to pay for shipping to get free rewards bux

[Anonymous No.866416]

>>862811

>mfw he probably thinks you're going to ship it to him

And no, people don't read listings. Wait until he files a claim because he hasn't received it in the mail lol.

Almost as bad as someone who offers $3 on something they know will cost more than $3 to ship.

[Anonymous No.866430]

>>865742

Not cheaper, more easier to use.

eBay
>Go through like 3 steps just to print 1 label

Stamps
>Put weight (or set the weight if you sell the same item alot), print.

Also eBay says you can use your label printer on their site but in reality you can't (well I can't).

>>866416
>Wait until he files a claim because he hasn't received it in the mail

Or worse, wait til he claims he had to click "View description" and could not find the button. So eBay makes it the seller's fault.

[Anonymous No.866435]

>just started out on eBay
>all these horror stories

[Anonymous No.866456]

>Buy something on eBay.
>Shakes around in box, because seller is a fucking moron and didn't package it properly.
>Seller says "Return request refused. I cannot be responsible for packaged damage in shipping"

mfw telling them multiple times that it was damaged because they didn't use any packaging other than a tiny bit of brown paper in the box.

mfw they claimed they would commit USPS insurance fraud, and would only refund me for the item, not shipping and return shipping if I sent it back.

[Anonymous No.866463]

>>866435

We're just fucking around, just don't sell anything and you'll be okay.

Better yet, gib me all your goodies to sell for you. We'll split the profits 1/2, after I'm done selling of course. :^ )

[Anonymous No.866470]

>>866456
I just sold a motherboard to a dude, and it arrived to him all sorts of fucked up, bent and shit, and so I said mybad and instantly refunded him the money.

Is there a way I can claim USPS insurance, I purchased it through paypal.

I just lost 100bux. I told him to keep the stuff, cause its straight fucked.

[Anonymous No.866483]

I forgot to share this, shilling Reddit sure is fun.
Made a lot of sales that day.

100k+ Views in 12 hours, so much traffic we might need a stop light.

>>866470
If you shipped with First Class without insurance, you;re fucked. Seeing it's a mobo I'm guessing you used priority. So you should be covered for $50.

[Anonymous No.866489]

>>866483
>So you should be covered for $50.
aww yea nigga.

question, how the fuck did you get 100k views in 12 hours...?

[Anonymous No.866500]

>>866489

I know my market, I know my people :^ )

I should've held off until I finished my personal site, but my dumb ass wanted to do it asap. Now I know it works, I know the next one will be even better.

Think of all those ad clicks though, eBay must've made at least $200 just in views from me.


Anyways, yea you'll have to fill out a form with USPS to get your $50 back.

[Anonymous No.866509]

>>866500
>dubz

what do you sell? I have my own personal site and my own ebay gig, I have to discount my item to shit on fleabay. Cause of china undercutters

[Anonymous No.866514]

>>866509


Mouse pads/idevice shit.

I'm the same guy >>866430

I'm thinking of doing the same, have my own site/ebay. But have my ebay name be my site, so people can just add .com to it. Leave notes in the packages telling them they can get the item 3/4 off at my site instead :^)

I'm expanding everyday, even moved into my own place few days ago.
Landlord even lets me use his attic for storage. $500/m with everything incl.

[Anonymous No.866520]

So I recently sold a softmodded xbox and Ebay removed the listing for copyright issues or whatever. But I already got the money... and shipped it... And removing the listing basically changes nothing at all. Obviously Ebay could have just removed it the moment I listed it, do they just do it like this so they can still get the money from the sale while still following the law?

[Anonymous No.866524]

>>866470

https://www.usps.com/help/claims.htm

>>866520

Yep.

[Anonymous No.866525]

>>866520

Oh they knew

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/r-rex-parris-law-firm-181626864.html;_ylt=AwrC1zFToddVI1oAdP3QtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBybGY3bmpvBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg

They just let you slide because you're a one timer.

[Anonymous No.866535]

y'all should look into Mercari

It's basically a slow eBay, for people trying to sell their old phones/etc.
Signed up yesterday and sold something the next hour.

Only annoying part is that you have to relist over...and over, write everything back again. It won't let you put x2/x4 inventory.

It's an App, no website. *cough cough* BNXPZK :^ )

Some chick sold me her iPhone 6+ for $400 the other day on here. eBay it's $500+.
She sold it for $360 few hours earlier but I told her to sell to me for $400 instead :^)

[Anonymous No.866540]

>>866524
Thanks m8

>>866514
Ethopian / Nigerian dude?
Nice man, congrats. You were the one who got me selling on ebay, 18 sales since june which is nice, 12 in aug, so its going up and up.

[Anonymous No.866553]

>>866540

Ayy lmao Nigerian, 18 sales is still something. Look into Mercari, decent place to sell imo.

>mfw I thought there was only cancer

[Anonymous No.866557]

>>866463
Sure, you can have the sub 10 dollar stuff at my dad's junkyard if you want. We need to clear some room. Otherwise, I've sold about 1400 bucks in various items that really don't have much market at home, like parts off a Mercedes he has in the yard, or a side view mirror for a Cadillac that his accountant wanted but changed her mind on.

[Anonymous No.866638]

>>866489
He posted a GabeN boob mousepad.

[Anonymous No.866764]

Just hit 1500 feedback!
Still waiting on my only neutral to fall off.

[Anonymous No.866836]

>>866764

Fell asleep when I was at 663, woke up at 667...

[Anonymous No.867062]

What do you do when a competitor is selling a inferior product for way less then you can sell it?

[Anonymous No.867080]

I dislike eBay once I found out their fee is 10%, while PayPal's is 3%, making it a total of 13% for selling an item.

I simply don't understand how anyone can make a profit.

[Anonymous No.867083]

>>867080
by adding 13% to your actual goal price

[Anonymous No.867087]

>>859801

> 14% in fees
> 2015
> dealing with this

How do people actually continually sell on eBay and why? You're saying 50%, yet if eBay didn't rape you, you could easily raise it to 60%. I mean what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.867100]

>>867083

How does one stay competitive? Doesn't this over-inflate prices as well?

> want to buy $500 broken lappy on eBay
> Amazon has same lappy used for $580
> could resell on eBay for $580 and make $80 profit
> instead have to factor in 13% ($75.4 of $580)
> mfw eBay is making $75.4 on me fixing a lappy
> mfw I get only $5

[Anonymous No.867108]

>>867100

> selling $5 Amazon gift cards for $8
> sell many gift cards
> make much money

> start selling $100 Walmart gift cards for $125
> sell many Amazon and Walmart gift cards
> make much profits

> end of the month comes
> eBay takes their cut

> mfw when I break even
> mfw when I have to explain profits to PayPal rep

Sold 8 Amazon gift cards and 2 Walmart gift cards.

8 * 5 = $40
8 * 8 = $64

Profit: $24

2 * 100 = $200
2 * 125 = $250

Profit: $50

Total Profit: $74

eBay Rape Deduction: $40.82

Real Profit: $9.18

Great way to get rep on eBay though, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.867112]

>>867100
it does. if I sell something on ebay I have to sell it higher than I might on a forum in order to get the same price. The only thing good about ebay is the visibility you get. I put the same items on multiple sites/forums/etc. You have to factor in all the bullshit (don't forget shipping costs!) to see just where your profits lie.

[Anonymous No.867115]

>>867080
Invest in paypal/ebay, get dividends from idiots paying the huge middle-man fees.

[Anonymous No.867117]

>>867087
It's all about visibility and reaching customers. If you can get reliable buyers or a source of realiable buyers like that guy then you skip ebay completely. If you're daring you can even do an out of ebay transaction (you cancel the transaction with the buyer, buyer pays you, you save on that 10%) but ebay frowns upon that heavily and will warn/shut you down if they see what you're doing. They even go so far as to prevent you from sending messages to people through ebay that include your email address so you have to format it in just the right manner that it gets past the word scanning.

[Anonymous No.867120]

>>867115
ebay's trading pretty low get in there!

[Anonymous No.867125]

>>867100

> selling $5 Amazon gift cards for $8
> sell many gift cards
> make much money

> start selling $100 Walmart gift cards for $125
> sell many Amazon and Walmart gift cards
> make much profits

> end of the month comes
> eBay takes their cut

> mfw when I break even
> mfw when I have to explain profits to PayPal rep

Sold 8 Amazon gift cards and 2 Walmart gift cards.

8 * 5 = $40
8 * 8 = $64

Profit: $24

2 * 100 = $200
2 * 125 = $250

Profit: $50

Include Shipping: $2

Total Actual Profit: $74 - (10 * $2) = $54
eBay Sees: $314 ($64 + $250)

eBay Rape Deduction: $40.82 ($314 * 0.13 = $40.82)

Real Profit: $13.18 ($54 - $40.82)

That was for a months work. I didn't include my time buying, shipping, and driving. I can tell you now that it sure as hell is not worth $13.18.

Great way to get rep on eBay though, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.867133]

>>867112

I agree completely, the point I'm trying to make is that it's not 1999 anymore and selling things isn't as hard as it once was. I wish there was an actual site out there that functioned as well as eBay does, without the overkill on fees is all.

I mean 13%? That's more than the APR on credit cards or a financed car.

[Anonymous No.867141]

>>867133
https://openbazaar.org/

[Anonymous No.867149]

I accidentally listed a cheap phone as "unlocked" when it was not. The buyer caught the error and messaged me about it, saying "You made a mistake. Someone will buy this and then report you for 'item not described'".

Then he proceeded to do the "buy it now".

I went and voided the transaction and refunded him. He was somehow still able to leave me negative feedback, saying he did not want to be refunded and that I relisted the item to get a higher price. I really don't give a fuck about one neg as I'm not a huge seller and my enthusiasm with eBay went fast when I saw the huge amount of profit I was losing to them.

[Anonymous No.867182]

>Buy broken Macbook off Facebook yard sale page for 80 bucks
>Sell on eBay for 325

[Anonymous No.867247]

>>867125
But why would anyone buy the cards I don't follow the logic behind this?

[Anonymous No.867314]

>>867133
in a weird way you can sometimes get more on ebay even after fees than you could elsewhere because more savvy people on other sites want lower prices.

like when i sell anime figures i can get more on ebay after fees because people there don't know where else to look for them/didn't know how to get them in the first place

[Anonymous No.867317]

>>867247

Nigs and other folk like that.

>>867125

I hope your buying all of these with a credit card to get rewards points.

[Anonymous No.867320]

>>867317

I'm drunk so sorry, to elaborate.

Money laundering. Basically, it's easier for Juan to bring a couple of gift cards across the border than it is for him to bring thousands of dollars.

No one knows how much money is on that card, so you can carry it around and move your money around accordingly.

And, also, some hipsters collect the actual cards.

[Anonymous No.867353]

anyone here selling rare pepe?

how can you make a living off of this?

[Anonymous No.867359]

>>867353
lmao

[Anonymous No.867493]

Okay guys how fucked am i ?
Ebay buyer protection will save me if i get nothing r-right ?

[Anonymous No.867494]

How do you all set up your descriptions? I'm seeing a lot of fancy descriptions on other listings. Is there a template or something on some other site for this?

[Anonymous No.867502]

>>867493

You really bought something from someone with a negative feedback score...

[Anonymous No.867505]

>>867502
The negative feedback wasnt there when i bought it

[Anonymous No.867508]

>>867505
Still, you bought from someone with no feedbacks...


I don't trust anyone with a name that has the current year in it.

[Anonymous No.867634]

>>867493
You can chargeback easily if you went through paypal. Credit card might be trickier not too versed on that.

Source: Fuck greedy counterfeiting chinks through paypal any time they annoy me

[Anonymous No.867673]

>>867494
I wrote a templater that I eventually want to connect to my inventory database. As it stands now, it just presents a few fields I have to type in and it generates HTML from the template.

[Anonymous No.867778]

>>867634
Thats what i wanted to hear

[Anonymous No.867951]

>>867062
Mention that detail in your own item description maybe?

[Anonymous No.867961]

>>867080
>don't understand how anyone can make a profit.
Then you're not doing it right.

>>867087
14% is only rape if you let it be and don't understand the deductions per sale before investing into an item.

>>867100
You would not make pure profit...You're forgetting shipping and TAXES. YES TAXES. If you think investing $500 to only make $80 is a good decision in the first place then I really think reselling isn't for you.

>>867112
>visibility
THIS, you won't reach near the same amount of people on any other platform besides Amazon. And Amazon takes out more fees than eBay.

[Anonymous No.867972]

>>867125
>explain profits
NIGGA...eBay doesn't factor in a sellers profit fucking christ, if everyone did this they'd mark down a 1 cent profit and pay virtually no fees. Again, it's on you for jumping the shark and not learning your damn numbers beforehand. They take into account your GROSS sales not the actual profit you make from a sale.
>>867133
13% is a decent fee to reach a buyer pool of millions. Again it's only rape if you don't understand your numbers.

>>867149
Call eBay and explain to them how he's lying, direct them to the messages he sent you before purchasing.

>>867494
I just have some standard filler after my items own description. No fancy template or HTML layouts or anything, I'm about listing quickly rather than having a fancy listing.

[Anonymous No.868119]

>Buyer doesn't know how to use item
>Messages me saying it doesn't work
>Ask him what he's done so far

Turns out he hasn't even done the 1st step so I stop replying. He keeps asking me to reply, sees I have no negative and tries to leave one in a way that might stick. lol called eBay telling them he made a mistake.

[Anonymous No.868126]

>>867247

Transferring PayPal to Amazon/Walmart.

[Anonymous No.868130]

>>867317

> credit card for reward points

Of course.

[Anonymous No.868148]

>>868119

Got one of those today.

>guy leaves a positive
>says I didn't deliver his product in comment
>look at his tracking number
>"Notice Left (No Secure Location Available)"

Did I mention that the buyer hasn't sent me a single message? In today's internet age I'm still surprised that people don't understand that we can't control what US fucking PS does after we drop the parcels off. I mailed it the day after he bought it. What else can I do?

And it's always on inexpensive shit. I never have problems with people who buy expensive things and have unforeseeable issues. Never.

[Anonymous No.868164]

If you have something that was stolen in say Texas and you sell it on ebay listing the item as located in New York, aside from offering free shipping to avoid distance/price issue, if there any reason you couldn't do this? I mean can you list an item as located in a different state than the one it actually is to avoid someone thinking its their stolen item?

[Anonymous No.868170]

>>868164

The Chinese companies do it all the time.

But stolen shit largely depends on having serial numbers or other identifying marks.

[Anonymous No.868336]

How do I use Priority Mail EXPRESS padded flat rate envelopes?

Do I just select Priority Mail Express Flat Rate Envelope, or are they different? eBay isn't showing express padded flat rate envelope, just flat rate envelope...

[Anonymous No.868344]

>>868336
Looks like USPS shows the same price, so I assume eBay just merged the two?

[Anonymous No.868546]

>>868336
>>868344


>mfw this buyer wanted the item ASAP.
>mfw I have messaged them, and sent them 2 emails.
>mfw I even requested the money for Priority Mail Express via PayPal, and hours later still no response.
>mfw the item will be delayed now.

[Anonymous No.868629]

>>868546
buyer's fault then

[Anonymous No.868885]

>>868148

I'm still surprised eBay lets them leave negative feedbacks without contacting first. I think they used to have a system in place to stop buyers, but since Don-Da-Hoe came in, well..you know the rest.

Anyways
>Get home from forever alone $5 movie Tuesdays
>Check my acc
>Pic related
>Have to go all the way to 7th page to find buyer

He bought from me a month ago, it was delivered a month ago. Guy never contacted me, I know he's just trying to get something out of me. eBay already took care of it.

[Anonymous No.868963]

>>867080

Easy. I buy thing from redneck for $10, he doesn't realize it's worth $400, I pay eBay, PayPal, and pay to ship it, I make several hundred dollars.

[Anonymous No.869126]

>eBay reverting to old version of Bulk Label Printing Tool.

http://www.ecommercebytes.com/cab/abn/y15/m08/i17/s01


What exactly does this mean? Will it be a huge pain in the ass to print labels now? I really liked the tool, and I've used it for months now.

[Anonymous No.869132]

>>868546
>buy something on ebay
>pay for EMS shipping
>immediately send a separate message telling seller I need this now, time sensitive
>he confirms
>he doesn't send it out for four business days
>end up having to overnight it from my home to my hotel
it was a Spice and Wolf artbook
I did get it signed which was the objective in the first place but still

[Anonymous No.869162]

>>869126

read this a while back, it means ebay is basically telling you to get your own shipping program.

[Anonymous No.869707]

>>868119

How do you get rid of a negative feedback from buyers saying an item "doesn't work"?

[Anonymous No.869796]

post your stats

[Anonymous No.869825]

>>869707

1. Make sure your description isn't short, so it confuses the eBay rep.

2. Ask the buyer indirect questions and not the actual question you're meaning to ask.

3. Wait for them to spill the beans on how they're lying

Buyer just claimed he received empty mail, already baited. Now ignoring till he opens a case :^ )

[Anonymous No.869834]

My idea:

GO to thrift stores such as Gaywill and buy books for 2 dollars.

Sell on ebay for 5-10 dollars.

Possible flaws in plan: Shipping for big books will be like $5? (including packaging) So I'll make fuck all in the end,,,

[Anonymous No.869837]

>>869834

> So I'll make fuck all in the end,,,

I don't understand this metaphor so I'll just assume you understand you'll be losing more money than you're making.

Though there is "media" mail. Which is only for books/etc. Could save alot using that slow USPS shipping service.

[Anonymous No.869844]

>>869837

WEll it's just a figure of speech to reflect that I won't be making as much as I'd hope.. I'll be making about 2 bucks per book. I was also wondering, do you think I should accept returns on books? Since it's 14 days I assume people can read them and just return them...

[Anonymous No.869846]

lol I should really check my screenshots before posting

[Anonymous No.869852]

>>869844

Well yea, I mean around this time would be great since you'll be selling to students. Just know that they might return since of course the professor didn't really need them to buy the book anymore..etc.


Either way, people are going to use you as their personal online public library.

[Anonymous No.869882]

Just made my first eBay listing.

>post book that is averaging at $8.00
>set my price to 7.00 plus free shipping
>suddenly some mother fucker posts his at $6.86 plus free shipping

FUGG

[Anonymous No.869917]

So do you all set your posts as buy it now with best offer or auctions?

[Anonymous No.869928]

>>869917
buy it now w/ best offer. I don't think I've ever listed an auction.

[Anonymous No.870119]

>>869825
Thanks for your reply. Do you deal mostly with American or Indian reps? Do you state on your listing description that it's not the seller's responsibility to explain how the item works? I see tracking is a must for disputing "not received" lies.

[Anonymous No.870355]

>>870119

Yea pretty much if you don't have tracking or an affidavit of delivery, you're not going to win anything.

If you're dealing with cases that are straight forward

1. Item not as described
>It was too red
2. Return request
>I don't want it anymore
3. Item not received
>But says delivered

Then you should talk to an American cs

If anything other than simple straight forward things that is confusing, talk to an Indian rep. Seems Americans don't like to listen about how a product works...

My listing says somewhere that I won't help them use the product. But it's hidden where buyers stop reading after a while. Also, if the item has been tampered with ("Sorry I threw away the box") my description protects me :^ )