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leftypol honeypot edition

Popular brokers for stock trading:
Robinhood
>commission free and no minimum to open
http://www.robinhood.com

> How is it free?
Robinhood earns revenue by collecting interest on cash/securities and fees from their Robinhood Gold service

> It's been X days, why isn't my account verified yet?
Not being approved in 3 days seems to be the new norm. Nevertheless, call/email their support if you've been waiting more than that.

> When is it coming to my country?
The only "plans" are on an Australian and Chinese beta. Neither of which has gained much traction.

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>$1 commission per 100 shares. $10k minimum to open, $3k if 25 or under. Lowest margin interest. Free API access
http://www.interactivebrokers.com

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Degiro (Cheap broker for Europeans)
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Premarket Movers:
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S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

Previous thread >>8436234

>> No.8440404

first bitches

>> No.8440407
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JUST

>> No.8440414

>>8440404
no me.

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>mid-teens

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>>8440414
u mad fag?

>> No.8440446

buy ONTX
buy AUPH
buy KERX

>> No.8440474
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8440474

Current state of the /smg/ fund
FUG YOU BUFFET

>> No.8440482

>>8440446
BPMX?

>> No.8440486

>>8440474
you seriously bought an AMRS $10 call?

>> No.8440497

>>8440482
dont know it sorry cant comment

>> No.8440498

>>8440474
How will Buffett-sama ever recover

>> No.8440501

Will S&P find support at 27k?

>> No.8440503

>>8440474
CWCO Is a small cap utility stock I was holding separately from the fund. To make it easier I just put it in so my entire portfolio in. It's a small part, so just ignore it

>> No.8440508

>>8440427
no u

>> No.8440515

>>8440474
brkb did so poorly today
wtf is buffet doing? hes supposed to beat the sp

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>>8440498

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>>8440501
hope so

>> No.8440530

>>8440501
impossible to say
all thats certain is that will eventually go back to all time highs, probably next month or the month after

>> No.8440533

>>8440515
>wtf is buffet doing?

dying slowly

>> No.8440554

The best part is the real sale hasn't even started yet, we still have another 48 hours of red candles.

>> No.8440558

>>8440533
buffet-sama will live forever!

>> No.8440582

>>8440516
top jej

>> No.8440583

>>8440558
Go long BOMN
Its grand nephew is one of the founder

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>>8440533
>>8440558
>>8440515
This Thursday when we update the fund, we should buy puts on BRK.B and hope buffet dies in the next year

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>>8440533
could a dying man do THIS?

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>>8440601

>> No.8440627

>>8440613
What kind of sick bastard would want to see a warren buffet ping pong show?

>> No.8440630

Sell uvxy?

>> No.8440659

>>8440630
Was just wondering this. What do you bearfags think?

>> No.8440672

>>8440659
I'm sticking to my plan. Holding 48 more hours.

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>>8440627
I want to see Soros rip off his testicles and play ping pong with those

>> No.8440694

>>8440516
What happened to Goatse Electric?

>> No.8440701
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Whoiooaa BASED citigroup
back in green

>> No.8440703

>bought btc at near ath in December
>finally gave up with the hodl meme last month and moved everything into stocks
>today happens
Fuck, should I liquidate what remains of my investment and just buy an air tight bag and a bottle of helium instead?

>> No.8440710

>>8440694
it is the original version

>> No.8440717

>>8440703
you are just terrible

>> No.8440722

>>8440672
You did name yourself bagholder extraordinaire for a reason, right?

>>8440659
I'm the Bear fag and I say sell as I believe we are at/near bottom of the dip. This market is not going to crash recession status for another 9 years

>> No.8440736

>>8440703
>just buy an air tight bag and a bottle of helium instead?
That would probably be your best investment yet.

>>8440710
Then Goatse Electric should be added

>> No.8440741

>>8440659
im a bear tard and I'm continuing to hodl SPX

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>>8440722
Forget my trip

>> No.8440764

>>8440722
>calls himself THE bear
>thinks the market will suddenly now do a 2x longer bull run than it ever has before

>> No.8440769
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is this the Legendary Golden Bull run

>> No.8440781

>>8440764
to be fair he said we could stop listening if his KTOS call went wrong

>> No.8440789

>>8440781
oh lordy lord

>> No.8440794
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8440794

>Gold isn't a hedge against the market
Brainlets, show yourselves.

>> No.8440803

>>8440501
strong support at 27k

>> No.8440823

>>8440474
>>8440486
Amrs is definitely gonna hit 10 a few times by fucking september.

Never got into options though, can someone give me an over view on how it works.

Say i believe amrs is gonna hit 10 by september..
What am i risking and what is my reward?
And what are the time frames?

>> No.8440869

>>8440823
Its like placing inside bets on a craps table. Fucking awesome.

>> No.8440881

>>8440823
Options are contracts (derivitives) that give you the right to buy a certain amount of a certain equity within a given window of time. Kind of like pre-ordering. People rarely use options in this way. They usually just trade the contracts. Using the to hedge and bet on or against specific equities.

>> No.8440898

>>8440623
I'm trying to buy BRK.B $135 puts 06/15 but in won't go through >:(

>> No.8440902

>>8440823
lets say you buy a call option for $1 on ARMS with a strike price of $10 and an expiration of December. then, when the option expires in december, you have the option to buy a share of AMRS for $10. So if AMRS goes to $15, you made $4 and if it goes to $9.99, you lost $1.

put options are the reverse. you have the option to sell 1 share of AMRS for $10.

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Buy citigroup its going back to 500

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>>8440927
NEVER
FUCKING
WRONG

>> No.8440958

>>8440946
thats how the AMD monthly is looking desu senpai

>> No.8440970

Down to a third cash after buying the dip ir can’t go any lower right?

>> No.8440976

>>8440898
>people actually think Buffett-sama can't beat the bogs

Am I interpreting this correctly since you can't find a put seller ?

>> No.8440987

I'm glad my stocks are being corrected. I was worried about the prices being wrong

>> No.8440991

>>8440474
post web address

>> No.8440999

>>8440987
are you a masochist

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>>8440946
unless you are most other stocks

>> No.8441009

>>8440970
y-yeah haha

>> No.8441034

>>8440991
autismincorporated dot org

>>8440976
No robinhood is retarded and doesn't represent the limit price correctly at any given time, so trying to get it for a low limit price is impossible

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>>8441000
>NEW PARADIGM

>> No.8441043

Burgers stahp selling pls. I'm getting some of your blowback up here in the hat.

>> No.8441054

what to pick up during this sale?

>> No.8441060
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8441060

They all just bought in, dump it!

>> No.8441063

>>8441000
>>8441039
SHORT SHORT SHORT

>> No.8441064

>>8441054
BGFV

>> No.8441086

>>8441054
TSLA dropped below my 315 target, but that was before the stability of the market changed....

>> No.8441157

when moon

>> No.8441181

AVGR earnings AH

>> No.8441189

>>8440764
It is going to keep going until Trump is out of office.

>> No.8441225

>>8441086
I thin I remember you swing trading TSLA
conditions changed
The CFO gtfo
And Goldman Sachs turned bearish on the stock
I would wait a little before playing the swing trade

>> No.8441245

>>8441189
yes yes puppets matter

>> No.8441246

>>8441189
Market will be volatile but I don’t think it will crash because nearly everything Trump did is favorable to companies

>> No.8441268

We're going to need another round of tax cuts to keep this market up.

>> No.8441282

>>8441245
>MSM on both sides of the aisle rampaged against Trump for the entire election cycle
>everyone is a puppet

>> No.8441284

>>8440498
the same way he always does. by holding
>8440823
agreed. and the 10 calls are cheap as shit. right behind ya
>>8440601
/mu/ killed lemmy. why cant /biz/ kill buffett?
>>8440678
thats pretty tame. i want to see him literally flayed alive.
>>8440927
>citi
do they have any bonds for sale? id buy those
>>8441189
yeah the media will keep telling everyone that trumps gonna break everything, but wall street loves the guy. just look at the bull run that started as SOON as they figured out which direction the election was going. im fucking praying that the FANG meme will fucking die though. every single one of those shit companies is intensely overvalued and i want all their money.

all i can say is, i fucking hope this volatility sticks around. this shit is a fucking blast

>> No.8441297

>/leftypol/
>thread asking if Nazis are anti-imperialist for fighting the USA and UK
>guy saying big business is crashing the stock market to keep down the working class

These people are retarded

>> No.8441307

>Have $10K Buy order for ANY @ 1.80
>Wait 4 hours, didn't trigger
>Right when I cancel it drooped to 1.80 and pops to 1.92

MOTHER FUCKERS ARE BAITING ME

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THE NIKKEI AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.8441332
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Does anyone else """invest""" in """political futures"""?

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>>8441307
the stock market is full of master baiters

>> No.8441355

thoughts on btg? B2Gold? looks like its hovering near support

>> No.8441400
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Should I buy more AMRS??

>> No.8441426

CRIS finally hit bottom, buy in now for cheap.

>> No.8441434

>>8441400
I'm not liking the lack of volume Waiting for a major dip.

>> No.8441435

>>8441400
Charge your phone

>> No.8441466

>>8441225
Yea, that was me. Im out on them for a bit until I can see a good pattern

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>when Amyris keeps you in the green
Based.
Tech genocide when?

>> No.8441478
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Where my bears at?

>> No.8441495

>>8441297
its no use anon. they are all so fucked in the head. this is what happens to anyone who gobbles up brainwashing philosophies and their propaganda indiscriminately. they are completely out of touch with reality and believe that everything is a "spook" or a conspiracy by the 1% to keep the proles down. the proles are down because they are retarded, and dont give two fucks about hedging their fucking money against all the crazy shit going down. these are the people who put their life savings in a savings account.

the exact fucking thing that happened to /pol/ really, just in the opposite direction. the fucking retards actually believe that no one is going to stop them when they try to gas the kikes and establish a white ethnostate. i miss when /pol/acks were just a bunch of lolbergs desu. there was more in depth discussion about the hows and whys of every scenario. now its just the jews, even when its in regards to things that the jews are more or less irrelevant in. for fucks sake, i saw a post on cripplechan a couple days ago that was saying that the fucking clarinet (the instrument) was invented by jews to make music more ugly. i mean, really?

fucking retards, all of them. everyones a fucking extremist nowadays. its a side effect of the times. frankly, the only people that are thinking clearly are the people that are here trying to learn how to take advantage of the most action in the markets in years.

WE are going to be the ones who come out ahead here, not right or left wing political dissidents. we will take advantage of the situation, and 10 years from now /leftypol/ will be screeching about how we are all "porkies" or "1%ers", while /pol/ will be kvetching about how were all fucking kikes. and neither of them will have any money.

>> No.8441511

MICT
Get in before the earnings report

>> No.8441520

So I sold my UVXY today for a comfy profit but I think wanna play the Fed Shitposting, suggestions?

>> No.8441525

>>8441495
So you mean we're going to make it?

>> No.8441530
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>>8441495
filthy centrist

>> No.8441540

>>8441332
>political futures
how the fuck do you do that? i would fucking crush at that. can you actually play futures on this shit, or is it just a game?

>> No.8441550

>>8441495
>tfw you live in an actual white ethnostate
Extremely overrated desu, you can't even get a gook.

>> No.8441564

Do you guys report your stocks on Robinhood to the tax man?

>> No.8441580

>>8441564
seeing as how i only make about 20 dollars a year, nah

>> No.8441601

>>8441189
>Trump
>ever out of office
1000 years m8

>> No.8441604

>>8441564
Yes. I'm respectable citizen who always does everything above board. I know that sounds sarcastic but it's true.

>> No.8441614

>>8441297
to be fair /pol/ is equally deluded
/pol/ thinks da jews are crashing the market to make T look bad.

>> No.8441627

>>8441614
But Trump IS the Jews.

>> No.8441635

Do you guys think we're going to have nice meltdown or will this just be a couple of years of getting cucked by a flat market seesawing back and forth?

>> No.8441641

>>8441614
Most of /pol/ thinks Trump is serving the jews. Support for Trump is pretty split in /pol/ these days.

>> No.8441654

>>8441604
taxation is slavery

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>>8441627
>patient makes frequent reference to an external all powerful group that he blames all problems are
>diagnosis: paranoid schizophrenia

>> No.8441664

Power hour soon I wonder what’s gonna happen I can’t get anymore red

>> No.8441669

>>8441614
I don't even care why this market is crashing, but the memefolio is up 20% today while the market is shredding hundreds of billions of dollars in value.

>> No.8441672

>>8440391
>People blaming politicians
>Not blaming Facebook for being run by retards that actively drive people away from the platform

>> No.8441678

>>8441660
Hey I'm not one of those Jewish conspiracy people, I'm just saying that for those who are, Trump's name might as well be Goldberg.

>> No.8441679

>>8441525
of fucking course. did you really think /pol/ was going to ever succeed in GTKRWN? we are the ones taking advantage of this shit and learning about how to survive a bear market. fuck, youre killing it, ive mostly just been watching you and picking up tips here and there. if this shit keeps collapsing, this is going to be the best fucking year ever. all we have to do is keep on bearing everything up

>>8441530
go sieg heil in a fucking corner. your ideology is a dead one. if anywhere needs fascism its the third world. but a country like the US? fuck the fuck off. not to mention command economies are fucking retarded. as far as im concerned, hitler couldve stopped at the destruction of the central bank, and establishment of the reichsmark and shit wouldve been fine for him and the rest of the germans. now look at them. being too radical is always a bad idea. things like this always snap back.

>>8441550
where? poland? i heard theres plenty of chinese tourists there.

>> No.8441709

BURN F*CEBOOK
CRASH BURN DIE SINK ROT ON THE FLOOR

>> No.8441715

>>8441540
/www.predictit.org
You use real money to buy "political futures"
Let's be honest, it's just gambling on upcoming events, but it's pretty fun

>> No.8441716

>>8441679
>>8441495
>>8441284
tl;dr

>> No.8441719

>>8441660
people don't delude themselves because they're crazy. it happens more often because they feel powerless and making stuff up is a common way for them to feel a sense of control
ie. I'm poor but crypto / day trading is my ticket to a comfortable life.

>> No.8441725

>>8441679
Fascists only step up to violence when the marxist threat is on red alert, you'll be thanking us later centristfag. And I dont use /pol/ by the way, its all controlled opposition, maybe youve been tricked

>> No.8441740

I just bought Brahm's Hungarian Dances CD on Amazon

Buy the AMZN dip :^)

>> No.8441752

>>8441709
Their books are clean, the won't die m8

>> No.8441756

>>8441740
but the hungarian dances are plebeian shit

>> No.8441760

>>8441716
TL;DR: Long DRYS

>> No.8441769

>>8441679
>where? poland?
Yep.
> i heard theres plenty of chinese tourists there
That's true.
Plenty of Chinese housing development too, the area I work in is basically a sprawl of gated communities that are like 90% Chinese.
And they're not exactly big on integration.
Also can you please stop typing like a 12-year-old?

>> No.8441787

>>8441760
Theyre going broke tho

>> No.8441796

>>8441756
guess I like gypsy shit

>> No.8441827

>>8441725
>Fascists only step up to violence when the marxist threat is on red alert, you'll be thanking us later centristfag.

Spin makes a good point. With out the right the left would just see to it to tax everybody at 100% and we'd have to resort to underground black markets to capitalize and make a better future for our selves.

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8441845

Some of you guys are alright. Don't come to the global equity markets tomorrow.

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>>8441000
Nice trips

>> No.8441879

>>8441845
>Volatility: HIGH
>Buying Power: $1.50
what did they mean by this

>> No.8441927

>>8441669
its a fucking wonderful feeling, isnt it? i fucking love being a bear

>>8441678
i agree. him and bibi fucking love each other. its my least favorite thing about the don. honestly, 90% of our problems and us getting dragged into shit desert wars is a direct result of our blind alliance with israel. i disagree strongly with /pol/ on many things, but i DO despise AIPAC. but that doesnt mean i hate jews. im sure plenty of jews would like to see me circumcised for saying that, but i also know there are a lot of jews that tacitly agree with me.

>>8441725
i triple fucking dog dare you to go take militant action against marxists. ill be here laughing, shorting everything, and shitposting, while you end up with a free ride to gitmo. if there is a violent revolution actually on the way, i will have LONG ago left for south america.
also
>its all controlled opposition, maybe youve been tricked
no shit. fucking all of them are. end, wiz, cripple etc to say absolutely nothing about how completely psyopped half/pol/ is

>>8441769
out of all people to let into your country, the chinese are probably the most economically parasitic.
>Also can you please stop typing like a 12-year-old?
how do you mean?

>> No.8441967

ALT ER today? Y/N?

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>loaded up on INTC calls for $55 in May this morning
>already down 10%

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>mfw somebody near me says AMRS is just a meme

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>>8441967
im in it, my fingers are crossed, on both fucking hands

>> No.8442005

>>8440902
No shit.
Lets say im really bullish on AMRS, and want it long term, and have 20k or so holding it.

would it still be smarter to use options?
What are the negatives?

>> No.8442006

NASDAQ is getting rekt. why?

>> No.8442017

Did the retard that bought NFLX at ATH off himself yet?

>> No.8442032

>>8442005
go long and buy a few puts to cover you ass if the trade goes south imo

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>>8441927
Typical centrist. Fleeing in fear
I will gladly fight to the death against the red army, 100%

>> No.8442055

>>8441927
>out of all people to let into your country, the chinese are probably the most economically parasitic.
The fact they generally keep to themselves (gated communities) gives the false impression they are not a bother. The contrary of mudslimes and nigs for example. Plus the fact their culture doesn't praise violence and destruction.

But generally, chinks thrive when they can break the rules and customs of the indigeneous people.
For example : in Christian countries, nobody works on sunday. But the chinks don't care and as a result, the native people can't compete.

And you can generalize this fact on a whole country and you understand why Trump got angry with his trade tariff and shit.

>> No.8442068

>>8442006
Have you been sleeping?

>> No.8442074

>>8442032
What are puts and how do they work? Newfag question of the day. Are they in Robinhood?

>> No.8442076

anybody else here good enough to short NFLX at 15x leverage at 320 last week and is already rocketed towards for 45% profit?

>> No.8442082

I just had my first experience with stocks. I bought 4,500 shares of a stock that cost .21 cents. It sat mostly still for a few days. Then this morning it jumped up to .24, My mom goes, hey you gotta sell your stocks now before it goes back down. I'm like.. well Okay il follow your advice, but don't influence me because I thought it was going to shoot up. Its at .40 now. DONT LISTEN TO MOM FUCKKKKK AHHHHHH

>> No.8442090

stop with the /pol/ tier posts about chinese and jews

just shut the fuck up already

>> No.8442104

>>8442005
And so Im clear.

lets say I buy a call option for 10 dollars expiring in Dec, for 1 dollar.

1. are they usually really 1 dollar per option?
2. What are the different time frames are they very restricted, and whats strategic?
3. If im understanding right - once the option is bought that money is Gone.
-if it goes to 15, I can but as many shares as I have options for 10 dollars a piece.
-if it doesn't hit 10, I lose it all
-if it hits 10.01 im still basically losing money even though I was right?

>> No.8442109

>>8442068
don't answer questions with questions.

>> No.8442115

>>8442090
>Chinese Jew detected
Nah I kid, I kid. I hate when /biz/ gets political too.

>> No.8442125

>>8442090
agreed

>>8442074
when you are buying a put you someone is saying they will buy the shares from you at a set price at a later date even if that price is higher than current market price

>> No.8442129

do you guys consider 1broker where you can leverage trade using BTC to be legit? why isnt it in the OP?

>> No.8442137

>>8442109
Look at any news source and read about Facebook. Then you'll understand.

>> No.8442142
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8442142

>>8442090
What's the matter shlomo? Don't want anyone to analyze your baby penis cut and suck ethnic cult?

>> No.8442158

>>8442129
This. 1 broker is the shit.

>> No.8442159
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8442159

> i wonder if contract expiration will help my vol short on monday
>market opens
>immediately margin called

>> No.8442163

>>8442137
yea i am up on that. i'm listening to some guy rip zuck apart on cnbc right now.

>> No.8442164

>>8442125
Makes sense, so I guess you need a "normal" broker for that, huh?

>> No.8442168

>>8441976
you got until atleast april till theta decay starts REALLY fucking you. just wait a little and sell em when it pops.

>>8441995
aye good to see a friendly face anon. green lady is our fucking mascot.

>>8442005
hedge against your long term hold by buying puts before you think itll pullback.

>>8442040
>I will gladly fight to the death against the red army, 100%
and im not going to stop you. but im not here to throw myself into a fucking meatgrinder for some ideological war. im here to make fucking money. politics can get fucked. i will never live nor die for a politician. its a waste of life.

>>8442055
yeah, they actually work, so it beats having a bunch of eritreans moving in. but they will do every sleazy trick in the book to suck the wealth out of the country. and then they will buy up your whole country when no one is looking. look at san fransisco and vancouver.

>> No.8442178

>>8442142
Jesus man no need to escalate that shit.

>> No.8442190

>>8442090
just fucking hide me then nigger. its why im using a trip in the first place. lrn2imageboard faggot

>> No.8442196

>>8442104
Options are in multiples of 100.
Buy ITM ATH puts, buy OTM calls on dips and corrections.

>> No.8442210

>>8442164
robinhood has it now, i actually like how robinhood options are set up more then my thinkorswim

>> No.8442223

>>8442190
Let's stop talking about his subject and let's go back to stocks

Do you guys think it is worthwhile to study the salmon industries ? I heard you guys luv sushis and shit

>> No.8442249

>>8442129
>1Broker.com is operated by 1pool Ltd., a corporation registered in the Republic of the Marshall Islands.
lmao

>> No.8442276

>>8442168
>"im here to make fucking money. politics can get fucked."

>proceeds to shit up the thread with talk about AIPAC wars and how the Chinese are economic parasites

wew lad
I think I will filter you after all

>> No.8442293
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8442293

Powerhour
we /greenday/ now

>> No.8442299
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8442299

I love when this bread gets salty as /pol/
10/10

>> No.8442302

>>8442249
Sounds safe

>> No.8442314

yo yo OPNT is popping

death penalty to drug dealers

>> No.8442322

>>8442190
Don't stop, they're just jewish.

>> No.8442334

>>8442196
just trying to grasp the process.. were my assumptions correct?

and how much does it cost to buy a call on 100 shares of say AMRS.
And what are the date ranges and how do they effect price of the option?

and like I asked, once you buy the option, the money is gone basically.
If it doesn't hit my call price, its basically valueless (using he contract to buy at a price higher than current, is useless)

But if I buy a 100 calls at 10 dollars for a dollar apiece, and the price goes past my 10 dollar call - but only to say 10.50
I was right, but i'm still not making money... correct?

>> No.8442345

>>8442249
>>8442302
Its good. Really good

>> No.8442356
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8442356

Guess i'm gonna start drinking early today

>> No.8442361

>>8442314
why? not the death to drug dealers part. is OPNT somehow gaining on trump's statements on the opium crisis?

>> No.8442364

yeah sorry for pulling on the threads of /pol/s autism guys, i just cant help myself. ill chill
>>8442276
fuck you though
>>8442322
i aint even against jews though. he just misread it

>> No.8442373

>>8442361
yeah its risky though halted 3 times

>> No.8442384

>>8442334
If you wait till the strike date yes, but you can just trade the contract before it expires.

>> No.8442385

this guy

>> No.8442415

Long AMRS till the end of the month?

>> No.8442430

any recovery in power hour is a bull trap
do not fall for it
we are going down all week

>> No.8442432

>>8442345
>advertising an unlicensed, unregulated, untraceable meme broker
Don't you have memecoins to shill, Pajeet?

>> No.8442440

>safety driver in the car
>pedestrian (deceased) was not using a crosswalk

what is really going on here

>> No.8442447

>>8442415
long AMRS 2020

>> No.8442454

>>8442334
Call strike is 10, you buy at 10 while the market price is 10.5. You have .5*100 profit. Basically.

>> No.8442457

enrj went mad today, sold way too early.
>>8442364
Oh well you should be.

>> No.8442470

>>8442384
how does that work..?
you would only trade the contract if you're winning, no?
Or are people going to buy my gamble cause they have more belief than me?

>> No.8442483

>>8442432
no you stupid faggot, I play on that website all the time for a year, its a social trading site, theres tons of users. Most legit bucket site around

>> No.8442523

Up .37% on a red day. Life is good.

>> No.8442524

>>8442470
i think you are making it more complicated than it really is desu

>> No.8442541

>>8442454
Yes but, if I bought 1 call for 1 dollar, and then the stock at 10... I spent 11 dollars, right?

>> No.8442555

Ive had nothing but losses since springbreak began, what do I do?

>> No.8442563

>>8442524
hmm can you answer my question?
when does one trade their options..?

>> No.8442572

>>8442555
>Spring break

You must be 18 or older to use this site

>> No.8442576

>>8442470
Well you pay a premium for the rights to the contract, as time goes on that premium the greek Theta decays until it's pretty much just the strike price plus difference in value. I mean people could buy your contract for any reason, the people who sold the contracts are going to be on the short end of the contract may be buying it back to cover for numerous different reasons.

>> No.8442577

>>8442555
AMRS

>> No.8442587

>>8442563
Learn the greeks.

>> No.8442598

>>8442572
>college students dont have springbreak
Im 21
>>8442577
I know I shouldve bought in earlier.

>> No.8442605

>>8442572
Or Robinhood for that matter.

>> No.8442627

Buy NVCN!


Thank me later!

>> No.8442635

>>8441654
I disagree.

>> No.8442641
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8442641

>>8442598
>He fell for the college jew

>> No.8442653

>>8442627
Can you tell us why?

>> No.8442656

>>8442470
>Or are people going to buy my gamble cause they have more belief than me?
yes.
the reason intelligent investors buy options isnt to gamble though it's to hedge other investments.

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>>8442635
can't disagree with fact my guy

>> No.8442675

>>8442627
Sell it to me and I will.

>> No.8442686

>>8442598
no worries mate. itll dip again. get yourself a good entry, dont just take my advice blindly. but long term, that shit is going to go way up. its suddenly a very profitable company, and its massively undervalued

>> No.8442687

>>8442598
AMRS is at least a MID-TEENS stock m8

No joke

>> No.8442697

>>8442576
can you give me a few imaginary numbers to visualize?

Lets say stock XYZ is at 5. I expect it to be 10 in Dec.

I buy 100 options for 100 shares for 100 dollars (is this right, around $1/option?)

this contract was at 100 dollars and in the months ahead starts going down to $75 dollars if the price isn't looking great.. but if the stock is doing well.. maybe the contract has gone up to $125?
am I thinking about this right?

>> No.8442698

>>8442641
>he didn't into the STEM jew

>> No.8442709

>>8442687
Literally, unironically.
PS: it's true

>> No.8442711

>>8442627
arent they supposedly getting bought up by RKDA? someone was telling me about them earlier

>> No.8442720

> Ctrl+F
> "Dividend"
> Phrase not found

Days like this are PERFECT for buying long term dividend growth stocks


>>8442698
I didn't even finish high school broski, and here we are in the same spot.

>> No.8442724

>>8442656
so you typically have buyers ready whether its doing bad or good..
Im guessing that's where the changing contract price for trading options comes in..

>> No.8442740
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>In process of making account with new broker
>If I go long today current broker will rob me 1% when I sell.
Who Third World Trading here?

>> No.8442745

>>8442697
Yeah pretty much. Like I paid $1.75 for these UVXY contracts on Friday, and now they're worth about $4 give or take.

>> No.8442753

>>8442720
>long term dividend growth stocks
such as?

>> No.8442767

>>8442745
excellent, makes sense actually.

if you're really bullish on a company do you only buy options anyways, or just buy the stock?

>> No.8442789

>>8442753
UNIT EPD NRZ OHI PEGI

Actually, PEGI is green today so ignore that one at this moment.

>> No.8442791

>>8442745
seriously cant believe i never even checked if you could play options on those. i wish i had back all the money that ive put into that thing, and instead bought options on em

>> No.8442805

>>8442598
My spring break just ended, it feels weird because I'm 30 and didn't decide to go to college until later. Before anyone mentions the college meme, i'm going to school for accounting, I didn't pick a nonsense degree.

>> No.8442824

Just got options today. Which penny stock should I throw puts/calls at? (besides BGFV)

>> No.8442840

>>8442789
Needs more CNSL NLY FOF EXG CXW
Don’t sleep on CEFs.

>> No.8442850

>>8442767
if youre super bullish on something longterm, what you could do is own the stock, hold it, and then make more macro guesses on the price action with calls and puts. this way, the price fluctuation of the underlying is almost of no consequence to you, you dont have to constantly sell to lock in profits and get taxed on short term gains, and options are pretty fucking cheap.

TL;DR trade both

>> No.8442867

>>8442840
You missed the growth part of dividend growth broski

>> No.8442868

>>8442686
Yeah sold my twitter holdings the profit was unexpected and I dont think itll stay that way. What do you thinks a realistic price for it to dip down into?

>> No.8442870

>ANY back to 1.80

FuckYouTexas.mp3

>> No.8442892

>>8442767
both, you can do credit spreads where you sell an out of the money option and buy a further out of the money option to hedge it. So if you were bullish on something sell an out of the money put and buy a further out of the money put. Your risk is equal to the difference in the strikes, and you just get a credit for the premium. Then when they expire out of the money you just keep the premium.

>> No.8442897

Oh boy another big buy coming through.
Primary thruster is go for launch.

>> No.8442948

RSII strong as fuck, hope you all got in at .008 when i told you guys.

>> No.8442957

>>8442892
you da man bagholder

>> No.8442965
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8442965

What did he mean by this?

>> No.8442981
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>>8442965
You're rich bro! Infinity percent gains!! Drinks on you right?

>> No.8442983
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8442983

>he fell for the crash meme

>> No.8442995

COME ON GO UP GO UP GO UP!

>> No.8443040

Got some Oracle before close, hope it beats earnings

>> No.8443046

POWER
MINUTE

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8443048

>>8442983
>he is gonna buy the dead cat bounce again

>> No.8443051
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8443051

Baaased

>> No.8443053

>>8441654
Yea I hate having functioning roads and Bridges to drive on
If only our military was made up entirely if mentally deranged retards with hope made sticks

>> No.8443065

>>8442868
the dirt hopefully
but on the realistic side, first it needs to break below its 20SMA at 34. the next major resistance will be 30. if that fails, it will fall into the teens no problem. twitter simply is not profitable in the long term, and most of its "users" are bots

>> No.8443076

Meme molecules are a hell of a drug.

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>>8443053
Yeah, me too.

>> No.8443100

>>8442957
Back in February I had sold a UVXY call and bought further out of the money calls. Then when I saw the volatility spike wasn't actually over and the short option was getting close to being in the money, I ended up paying quite a bit to cover the short option and let the long option ride. Made bunch of money even though the market acted in the opposite way I anticipated.

>> No.8443101

>>8443065
Oh no I meant what do you think AMRS will dip down to?

>> No.8443112

Who here /AVGR earnings call/?

>> No.8443117

I'm gonna test this "power hour" meme bullshit this week. Today, we gained 101pts on the dow. Let's see what that means for tomorrow.

>> No.8443124

>>8443088
>Florida

They aren't even a real State, just a Gayer Texas.

>> No.8443135

>>8443101
provided it doesnt run away right now, i would look for a buy in at around 6.50 in the morning. that seems to be a very strong support

>> No.8443137

>>8443112
rip

>> No.8443153

>>8443124
this

>> No.8443154

>>8443100
So in a way you can pay 100 for puts and 100 for calls and make money either way as long as theres decent volatility?

>> No.8443170

>60% miss
F

>> No.8443185

>>8443154
yes its called a straddle
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/straddle.asp

>> No.8443187

>>8442334
You dont have to exercise the contract, meaning you dont ever need to buy or sell shares of anything. You just sell the options contracts to make money, since they are leveraged 100 to 1 you can make good swing gains selling options contracts. You can always exercise a put for example if you think the stock will eventually go up to buy a good stock for cheap.

>> No.8443188

>>8443112

never get in before earnings

>> No.8443193

>>8443154
Yeah that's a straddle. So as long as the price moves a decent amount you don't even care the direction.

>> No.8443197

If you had AVGR, up almost 18% today, and didn't sell, you get what you deserve on earnings

>> No.8443206

>>8443154
theoreticly yes but since you will be all alone doing this on most stocks (wall street makes okex fake volume look invisible) hymie and his chicago friends will book your trade as THEIR profit and pin the price where you lose on both sides if they can

>> No.8443212

>>8443193
Incredible.
Is this the center of your strategy with options? Buy both

>> No.8443216

>>8443040
Uh oh, it's way down in after hours

>> No.8443224

>>8443154
I've never used one, but I've considered using them around earnings since that's when you usually get some decent volatility.

>> No.8443226

>>8443135
Alright ill make a note.

Also look into GERN its gone up 85% in the past month and ive made a 45.11% percent return since I bought in.

>> No.8443237

>>8443154
>>8443185
>>8443193

This is how I made my cash stack on Nadex. Straddling volatile currency pairs for cheap. It also helps you get into the feeling of "losing" some trades without panicking.

>> No.8443258

>>8443237
Nadex 5 minute forex trading can break a man in about 30 minutes.

>> No.8443259

>>8443197
Still, it's not like it matters, they will live or die by their next FDA trial.

>> No.8443273

>>8443170
ouch. poor guy.
>>8443117
rally in the morning and then flush

anyways, seeing that tech is on fire now, is anyone interested in shorting semis with me? going to by SOXS on a SOXX rally tomorrow and then hold for a while

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>>8443273
pic related

>> No.8443299

>>8443258
I traded Nadex 5min for about 10 months and made a giant stack to dividend invest with. It's not a good long term strategy, but dam its quick cash. I used a customized parabolic SAR strategy.

>> No.8443320

>>8443299
I've had good days, and REALLY bad days. Decided to stop trading those types of options entirely because it felt to much like straight up gambling. Longer time frame options I think are a better strategy.

>> No.8443330
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8443330

>UVXY tanking after hours

>> No.8443349

>>8443330
>holding meme assets overnight
What were you expecting to happen, exactly?

>> No.8443350

>>8443330
It's just a dead cat bounce, market has at least -2% more down side.

>> No.8443351

>>8443320
It's absolutely gambling, but if you can count cards, may as well gamble right? Ya, I decided to run far, I could tell I wasn't gonna last 5yrs with that strategy. But then again, I came from binary options which is extreme gambling, so I guess it wasn't too bad haha.

>> No.8443354

>>8443330
well of course vol would lighten up in AH. FED is still going to shitpost this week. youll be ok

>> No.8443364

>>8443100
if you don't mind indulging me further..
>sold your call and "further out of the money call"
you just rebought for a further our price and further out date? in essence bought a new call?
>short option was getting close
your prediction of it going down was wrong and it rose a shit load, and got close you your hedged call..?
>paying quite a bit to cover the short option.
you basically traded away your puts and lost money on those

>> No.8443376

Why do we have so many tripfags? This shit is disgusting.

>> No.8443394

>>8443330
Volatility ETNs all rebalance after hours, you aren't supposed to hold them overnight. Wasn't anyone paying attention to what happened with XIV?

>> No.8443399

>>8443351
youre the guy who told me about 30days to market mastery right? good fucking book. do you know any books off hand that i can read to learn more about bonds?

>> No.8443411

>>8443376
You can always hide them, I don't get the appeal of them but they don't bother me.

>> No.8443424

>>8443376
Welcome to a General thread newfriend

>> No.8443457

>>8443040
Hahahahahahahaha hahaha haha no

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck you Larry Ellison

>> No.8443464

>>8443394
i think they keep tracking until the end of AH. thats when they rebalance. but youre right, those things arent really good for long term holds. ive definitely done ok on it before, like in the beginning of feb. but its rare

>>8443376
i fucking hate trips too, but this board is saturated with pajeets and bots trying to fuck you over. it makes it a lot easier to take a mans advice at face value if you can identify him.

>> No.8443471

>>8443354
>FED is still going to shitpost this week.
What does this mean exactly?

>> No.8443486

>>8443364
Say the underlying assest was like 10 bucks, I was thinking it would go down so I sold a call with an 11 dollar strike and bought a call with a 12 dollar strike. Say I collected 20 cents for the 11 dollar one I sold and paid 5 cents for the 12 dollar one I bought. So I was going to make like 15 cents per contract as long as the price stayed below 11 before they expired. When I saw it was going up and was like $10.50 I ended up paying quite a bit to just cover the short option, thing shot up like crazy so the long options ended up being deep in the money when I ended up selling them closing the position entirely prior to the expiration date.

>> No.8443509

>>8443399
to be honest, I haven't checked out many books on bonds. A lot of my investment knowledge is just experience based really

>> No.8443520

>>8443040
Oracle needs to die, the sooner the better.
t. Enterprise IT pro

>> No.8443537

>>8443197
>-9% After-hours
*inhales*

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>>8443464
>It makes it a lot easier to take a mans advice at face value if you can identify him
>Implying a tripcode is identification
>Implying you have information worth sharing
There is literally no reason to trip. You guys only do it for attention. Here's your (You). Don't spend it all in one place.

>> No.8443561

>>8443540
to be fair, we told teh profit to tripfag. He got like a quad 7's get or something a couple weeks ago.

>> No.8443578

>>8443486
alright a little confusion.
if you thought it would go down wouldn't that be a put?
why would you sell an 11 dollar and buy a 12 dollar strike if you think its going under 10?

or am I misunderstanding the term Strike?

>> No.8443595

>>8443578
Buying (longing) calls is bullish.
Selling (shorting) calls is bearish.

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>>8443578

>> No.8443600

>>8443540
General threads attract trips like flies to shit, nobody is forcing you to see them or be here dude.

>> No.8443604

>>8443578
someone put this guy out of his misery

>> No.8443606

>>8443595
yes I know that.

but if xyz is at 10 and you expect 11, aren't you buying a call, not a put.

>> No.8443609

>>8443520
I mean you're not wrong, but I still thought it was gonna beat earnings.

>> No.8443614

>>8443578
I was short the $11 call options. So I had negative how ever many call contracts I sold. Worst case is I would use the $12 call contracts to buy the stock then sell it for $11 and lose $1 per contract.

>> No.8443637

>>8443614
hmmm you can short a call...?
that isn't the same thing as buying a put?

>> No.8443638

I'm surprised at how patient some of you are with the newfags, months ago you would have said fuck you, google it.

>> No.8443642

>>8443606
Does the confusion lie between the buying of calls and the selling of puts?

>> No.8443649

>>8443638
options are important to understand to get to that next level

>> No.8443662

>>8443578
I wanted all the options to expire out of the money so I could just take my 15% and have a nice day.

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8443668

I shouldn't have listened to the 2 posts that were talking about CRMD

>> No.8443670

>>8443642
once again, no nothing about options except the last 20 min convo.

isn't a call = a contract higher than the current (bullish contract)
and a put = a lower than current price (almost shorting- bearish contract)
?

>> No.8443672

>>8443509
me too, but youve clearly had a shit ton more experience. im just trying to improve my bear market game before we really get into it. this is all turning out to be very good practice.

the way i see it, with interest rates being hiked from all time low, as well as inflation, there is no fucking hope of bonds doing anything but crashing. junk bonds more so. im in TMV trying to give myself some leverage because they move so slow, but i wish i could play options on them.
>>8443540
not gonna get in a pissing match about it m8, im done shitposting for the day
>>8443561
exactly. i didnt want to be teh profit. i had no choice
>>8443600
and again, if i piss you off, then you can hide me easily and efficiently from every /smg/ thread from here on out. not gonna ruin my day
>>8443638
in contrast to most crypto threads here. theres actually a good amount of experienced people who frequent this general. i see no reason why we have to just call everyone newfags relentlessly. im certain we all have tricks one another could use

>> No.8443680

>>8440769
Does that mean swing for tomorrow. It worked last week but today it didn't even start green

>> No.8443684

>>8443637
If you sell a covered call you're raking in the premium but you're giving away the right to be exercised at any time.
Opposite when buying puts.

>> No.8443686

>>8443670
sorry know nothing*

>> No.8443687

>>8443649
Took me forever to learn options, not the concept of it, but the user interface of trading them is the worst part. Unless you are using RH.
>>8443672
Being called a newfag is part of the process, don't turn this board into reddit faggot. This is still 4chan and some of us like to keep it that way.

>> No.8443709

friendly reminder to never give out your strategy and dont help anyone but your conglomerate organization

>> No.8443711

>>8443637
It's similar, but you don't have the right to exercise the option prior to the strike date if you're on the short side.

>> No.8443715

>>8443672
Nah I like you tripfags

>> No.8443721

>>8443680
impossible to say

>> No.8443723

>>8443670
More or less, yes.
Buy Call: if you expect stock price to rise
Buy Put: if you expect stock price to fall

>> No.8443727

>>8443709
>your conglomerate organization
You mean, like, gravel mining?

>> No.8443731

>>8443684
ah alright, that's where my confusion is coming from.
"Covered" call

a covered call is trading the contract itself right..?

>> No.8443744

>>8441478
What exactly did you buy?

>> No.8443750

>>8443731
A covered call is when you own the stock (the lot of 100 stocks actually, but that is besides the point) that the contract pertains to.
Naked calls are when you don't own it and have to buy the stock at market price when you get exercised.

>> No.8443755

>>8443727
womens sandles, lending, Xray equipment

>> No.8443770

>>8443731
A covered call is when you sell a call and you own the underlying stock. It's pretty safe.

A naked call is when you sell a call without owning the underlying, those will fuck you right up

>> No.8443777

>>8443731
a covered call is when you have 100 shares of something, and sell a call contract. So you're short a call, but because you have the stock it's covered. Otherwise you could be in a position with infinite risk.

>> No.8443821

>>8443711
interesting.
so with regular calls and puts, you can exercise the option at anytime pre strike date.

but you're talking about shorting a call contract..
how the hell does that work..? you're shorting the trading price of that stocks current Call contract price?
isn't every Call and put contract unique?

>> No.8443829

>buy spy calls too early
>still going to make money buy not as much
Woe is me

>> No.8443841
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8443841

/smg/ really educational today.
I'm also required to remind you once a month, i created the name /smg/. Happy March guys.

>> No.8443858

>>8443750
>>8443770
>>8443777
Ah alright.
that makes sense

so that kind of answers my question here
>>8443821
when youre shorting a call, you're shorting your own call contract that you already own.

>> No.8443870

>>8443687
the fact that you still have pride in this fucking site is the pathetic part. reddit came in in like 2010 and never fucking left. almost everyone of real value migrated out of here years ago. i came back here because its the only chan with an active biz board. the one on cripple used to be great but it died after the whole sunshine fiasco that happened last april.

the sad part that you dont realize, is that 4chan used to be full of helpful autists who, while they may fuck with you, were generally quite intelligent, helpful, and sympathetic to other fellow neckbeards, so long as you could see beyond the keyboard courage. the shitposty idiot bullshit (as well as the site being notorious for CP) came as a result of goons. fuck goons. redditors came here and then played monkey see monkey do, and now, over 10 years fucking later, here we are.
>>8443715
<3
my favorites bagholder. dude knows his shit

>> No.8443897

>>8443777
and this covering is mostly only useful for Shorting

no need for covered calls if you're long

>> No.8443904

>>8443471
>The FOMC holds eight regularly scheduled meetings per year. At these meetings, the Committee reviews economic and financial conditions, determines the appropriate stance of monetary policy, and assesses the risks to its long-run goals of price stability and sustainable economic growth.

they're going to raise interest rates

>> No.8443914

>>8443858
Every time you buy a call or put contract, who ever sold you the contract is short that same contract.

>> No.8443917

>>8443897
you can still hedge against your shorts with protective puts, which is essentially the same thing as covered calls but in reverse

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8443918

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8443931

>>8443870

>> No.8443970

>>8443931
hey man, i wish it wasnt so, but this site is fucked. theres no denying it. the only thing we CAN do is to keep the few gems we have

>> No.8443978

>>8443897
Covered calls is something you can take advantage of when you have a lot of stock, and want to make some extra money when the market is kinda moving sideways. I mean the worst thing that happens is the option expires in the money and your stock gets called away and sold for what ever price. You still end up with the pile of cash you got from the strike plus the premium from when you sold the contract.

>> No.8443993

>>8443870
Some originalfags are still around, this is the only board I post in. fastbread.

>> No.8444024

>>8443993
its like were becoming yetis. like were some sort of myth.