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8195947 No.8195947 [Reply] [Original]

Can someone here explain to me why the hell restaurants need servers?

When i go to a restaurant all i care about is the food i could not care less about the service or any of that trash, i would be happy to go to the front order my food and then pick it up when it is done, why should i pay a guy a tip just for the sake of having someone give me "good service " that i could not care less about?

>> No.8195981

If you want to pick it up yourself, go to McDonalds, anon.

>> No.8195989

>>8195947
you eat at pleb restaurants

>> No.8196006

>>8195947
Go to a cafeteria if that's what you want. Or order the food to go and then sit down to eat it.

>> No.8196012

>>8195947
it's called counter service, just choose the restaurant you go to.

>> No.8196024

If you don't want service eat at home or go to some dank salmonella pit when nobody gives a fuck about you. Do you basement dwelling autists seriously need a walkthrough of every aspect of life?

>> No.8196045

>>8195947
don't worry, you're not alone, although there are a couple vocal restaurateurfags on this board who act all entitled to the benefits they get out of this retarded backwards tipping culture. They act like it's either fast food or the fucking Dorsia. No in-between. Guess what fags, there is a big huge niche in-between and it's going to get filled and eat up your business the moment the economy is in a slump (ps don't look at the DOW and don't long the american markets on Friday March the 16th)

>> No.8196050

>>8196024
ok since i like to go to restaurants i will just not tip since i do not need the service

>> No.8196052

U live in a world where even in the lower middle class you can have people literally serve you food and drinks. It’s awesome, and tipping isn’t even mandatory it’s just a thank you to your fellow man / woman

>> No.8196059

>>8196052
test

>> No.8196078

>>8195947
My hypothesis: Restaurants and tipping used to be for the rich. The middle class got richer, and many cheaper restaurants emerged. Rich people traditions remained.

>> No.8196079

tipping is virtue signaling. thats all it is.

>> No.8196083

>>8196045
there's nothing special about the 16th. the market will probably go up.

>> No.8196111
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8196111

>>8196083
Just be careful anon.

>> No.8196116

>>8196006
>Or order the food to go and then sit down to eat it.
Can you do that?

>> No.8196128

You wouldn't need to tip all the time if you had a proper minimum wage. Tipping is pretty much a Seppo thing.

>> No.8196143

>>8196111
so spooky and mysterious. definitely taking your advice because you went out of your way to upload a meme also.

>> No.8196160

>>8196079
This. And it can end right, all we need to do is stop tipping

Come on faggets let's start a movement, we can do this
Enough with the fucking tipping

>> No.8196171

What else do we do with single moms

>> No.8196192

>>8196050
Go right ahead! Just be aware that every time you go back there's a risk that word spread about you and there's a chance that you'll be eating something someone smeared with a finger they touched their asshole with.

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>>8196143
*BELL TOLLS IN THE DISTANCE*

>> No.8196206

>>8195947
In some states the waiters/waitresses are not actually paid salaries. So you woukd just end up paying more for your food.

>> No.8196211

>>8195947
pix of Carlita B. please

>> No.8196225

It's like welfare for women and gay dudes...sort of like HR departments

>> No.8196229

There are restaurants like this, it’s called counter service. Just go to those anon. It’s a free world - you can go the restaurant you enjoy

>> No.8196289

>>8195947
what the fuck, why tip $446? he should have tipped 444.03 so the total was $450 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.8196361

>>8195947
What's the context for that $446 tip? Probably some blue pilled white knight cuck tipping some roastie waitress. If you are tipping a waitress $446, she better be letting you hit that raw in the back. Fucking idiot vagina worshipers. Go MGTOW

>> No.8196475

Move to Australia. No tips required

>> No.8196561

>>8195947
> i would be happy to go to the front order my food and then pick it up when it is done,

They're called fast-food places anon. You should try them.

>> No.8196590

>>8196561
Exactly. It's called "takeout" or "pickup". You don't have to get wait service.

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>>8196160
lol poorfag. I live well within my means and don't mind giving money to losers. As long as it is my choice to do so

>> No.8196739

>>8196590
And I think in the UK they're called take-aways.

>> No.8196745

now i it seems personally to me that you non-tippers aren't truely doing it as righteous crusaders for a liveable regular wage for servers, in reality they are just cheap and/or they are jealous that servers make a lot of money in a relatively short amount of time. i myself believe instead of tipping we should just have better wages but i tip cause im not an autistic weirdo. even if you are cheap just give them a couple bucks for fucks sake.

>> No.8196768

>>8195947
Why wouldn't he add 3 cents to even it out

>> No.8196774

>>8196745
this.

>> No.8196792

>>8196745
not singling you out but youre the only one who said it so far, please explain what happens if tomorrow every restaurant pays its servers the exact same wages they make from tipping. how much do you think that would increase the cost of food/bev? better believe one way or the other the customer is going to pay the servers wages, tipping is the better way for everyone. servers make more, can work more flexible hours, restaurants can attract better staff without massive overhead.

>> No.8196831

>>8196200
no seriously what are you hinting at faggot, just say it
why would you know that mueller is announcing stuff on that friday? it will be on a monday when it happens

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>>8196831
That's why I said to cease longs on Friday.

>> No.8196870

>>8196116
Yes you didn't know that?

>> No.8196901

>>8196078
Nah, tipping ensures better service. In Europe most restaurants that aren't super expensive have servers that are rude, uninterested in your meal, and act like petty tyrants if you get them angry. Think DMV workers but with food. Heaven forbid you ask your server for a few extra minutes to read your menu or you want to ask questions about your food... you'll be waiting half an hour until the waiter feels you've "learned your lesson".

Even with it's faults, even cheap hole-in-the-wall places in the US have servers that actually care that you get fed, American tipping culture is great.

>> No.8196919

>>8196050
holy fuck you are an entitled cunt
enjoy getting bodily fluids in your food

>> No.8196922

>>8196859
is there anything else you can post with more information? your frequent use of memes and having them readily available to you makes me think you're just a trolling, larping 4channer.

>> No.8196958

>>8196922
Just Cliff High tier autism, sorry. My data points to it, so it's meaningless. Feel free to take any position you want.

>> No.8196978

>>8196958
"data" makes it sound like you're going off TA, but you have news data that points to a specific day for political happenings?

>> No.8196988

>>8196192
Then I'll sue the restaurant and collect some very easy money

>> No.8197007

>>8196988
better have randomly decided to save that meal as evidence, otherwise fucking lol

>> No.8197011

>>8196225
Voluntary welfare. If you don't want to pay the 15%+ to tip the waitress, there is something called takeout/takeaways. I haven't had wait service in 1 1/2 years because I'm a literal NEET hikikomori (I trade crypto for income) who doesn't hang out with friends or anything like that. It would look awkward for me to go to a sit-down restaurant on my own I always order takeout. No tip. No delivery fee. No bullshit. If you don't own a car, the delivery fee and tip is offset by not having to pay for auto insurance, gas, maintenance, etc. Cars are a money pit.

Wait service is not even really worth it anyways so as long as the place has takeout. I would rather order my meal to eat at my own convenience at home away from all the normalfags. And hit up at liquor store to get the drinks that I like. Alcohol is far cheaper at the liquor store than at the bar too.

>> No.8197026

>>8197011
so because you're a fucking autist people shouldnt tip? ok then friendo, good luck with the rest of your life with logic like that you're going to fucking need it

>> No.8197068

>>8197026
I never said people shouldn't tip. I was arguing the exact opposite. If you don't want to tip the waitress, then don't go for wait service. I don't want to tip so I don't get wait staff or delivery, I get takeout. If I didn't own a car, I'd do delivery and you are supposed to tip for that as well. You normalfag cucks lack reading comprehension

>> No.8197103

>>8196792
Food and beverage costs go up 10-15% at minimum and you will get shittier service as the server has less incentive to be attentive. Go to San Francisco sometime and tell me about your experience. Auto gratuity plus a state surcharge and you won't even be greeted at your table in under 5 mins.

>> No.8197179

>>8197103
ding ding ding, ask europe how their service industry is. anything below a 4 star restaurant and woo boy...good luck.

>> No.8197222

>>8195947
Just order from Uber Eats. Tipping your delivery driver is optional and there's no awkwardness if you stiff the driver since you'll never see or have to deal with that person ever again.

>> No.8197256

ITT: poorfags

>> No.8197388

>>8197103
In most jobs they don't even pay people for performance, let alone "tips". They're paid a wage/salary and expected to just do their fucking job. I'm not a fan of the practice of tipping. But liquor servers have a lower minimum wage than everyone else in my province. So I have no choice but to tip if I don't want them to spit/jack off in my food. And since they earn less than minimum wage, they deserve at least a little something extra anyways (15+% is excessive though IMO. But that is what they are used to and I'm not going to fuck with the people who handle my food).

Ideally liquor servers should have the same minimum wage as everyone else. And restaurants/bars/etc. should voluntarily pay the staff more seeing as how servers are used to making far more than minimum wage

>>8197256
Exactly. Wait service is a luxury. You are not entitled to wait service. If you want to eat on a budget, learn how to cook and prepare your own meals. That is how you will get the best bang for your buck. If you are on food stamps, you probably won't even be able to afford TV dinners ffs. The budget they give you for food stamps is very small.

Wait service is a classist thing. You are having the help prepare and serve food to you because your time is more valuable than theirs. If your time isn't more valuable than theirs, then you shouldn't be getting wait service.

>> No.8197413

>>8197388
so what you're saying, is that they should be paid more on top of tipping? just trying to get that straight. and also every job pays for performance, its called raises, and bonuses.

>> No.8197626

>>8197413
Ideally I think restaurant staff should be paid more in lieu of tipping. Since I don't like the practice of tipping. We are forced into it by social convention and because liquor servers have a lower minimum wage

When I was a wage cuck, I was working temp contract after temp contract. Feeling absolutely no motivation. I never felt appreciated working for Mr. Shekelstein. Getting into crypto trading was the best thing that has ever happened to me. I feel like my effort actually matters in the crypto world. The days of being with one company for your whole life are over. That's a boomer thing.

>> No.8198196

>>8196901
Sounds great. Suck it up you entitled snob

>> No.8198287

>>8197388
I don't think you realize the kind of people who work in restaurants. These typically aren't very qualified individuals, nor do they have higher education; some of whom have not even finished primary schooling. It's incredibly difficult for them to just "do their fucking job" unless the tipping carrot is dangled in front of them. Even with the tipping culture, the turnover rate for servers in most restaurants is astoundingly high.

It's either formally tip and cultivate an environment where you get good service, or pay that anyways on the bill for higher operational costs/wages and go hit or miss with lackluster service.

>> No.8198319

Literally paying protection money so people don't spit in your food and then defending the practice. Is there anyone more cucked than Americans?

>> No.8198355

>>8198287
Also, as far as liquor servers go, good tippers eventually get taken care of as far as rounds/shots go. Bartenders have comp tabs and are given a freedom to give out drinks here and there. So there is that benefit as well.