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Holy fuck this is HUGE

https://medium.com/linkpool/becoming-trust-less-and-deploying-the-alpha-node-efca5823580a

>> No.8165182

WTF!!! MY LINK!!!

>> No.8165252

>>8165149
Thanks unironically bought 100k

>> No.8165359

>>8165149
please, ive sent 1000€ to kraken , i'll only recieve it tommorrow, so, could you please fud a little bit more
tx

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My body is ready

>> No.8165442

aaaaaaaaand its nothing
congrats stinky linkes

>> No.8165459

no anon its medium

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>>8165442
this is the solution to the stinky problem, nolink fudder in the back of the pic

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>>8165149
40k link holder checking in, lambo land here we come!

>> No.8165590

>>8165555
CHECKEDD

>> No.8165621

If someone stakes LINK, how much monthly income are we looking at?

>> No.8165670 [DELETED] 

Its literally nothing
A pool for smartcontract token goes from a private wallet to using a smartcontract... like why wasn't that the original plan? What a joke. Almost as bad as the chainlink ico not using a smart contract and having to manually refund every single person who went over the 2m crowdsale cap

>> No.8165677

>>8165442
You are being naive, this actually solves everyones worries about collective staking, because you don't have to trust them with your links anymore.

I was actually thinking of just selling my links and not staking them because of this problem, but this makes me more at ease.

>> No.8165697

>>8165621
At the start 0.1-1% monthly, 5% is their long-term target

>> No.8165700

Sirs we Go to mars Bitch Lasagna

>> No.8165707

>>8165697
0.1-1% of what?

>> No.8165711

>>8165670
It tells you at the end of the article why they didn't want to do it at first.

>> No.8165714

>>8165707
Roi

>> No.8165723

>>8165149

So this basically means my tokens will be safe on a linkpool node? Thank god, I was worried about that

>>8165555
KHEQKED

>>8165621
No one knows, Linkpool devs said 0.1-1% returns on tokens a month initially, upwards of 5% in the future with adoption (years from now)

>> No.8165741

>>8165707
of $10

>> No.8165748

>>8165723
>No one knows, Linkpool devs said 0.1-1% returns on tokens a month initially, upwards of 5% in the future with adoption (years from now)
I see, thank you.

>> No.8165773

so could anyone paint me a picture of how staking would occur under this new approach?

>> No.8165775

>>8165723
5% of what though, token price?

>> No.8165789

>>8165775
All of your tokens

>> No.8165814

>>8165773
>paint me a picture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLWEXRAnQd0

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>>8165149
nice
I guess there's no reason to fear staking your LINK there now. Looks like we're gonna be fighting for spots on the first nodes, boys.

>> No.8165857

>>8165775
Number of token staked, returns on a monthlt basis:
https://medium.com/linkpool/linkpool-economics-ac8642a75801

>> No.8165870

>>8165814
its beautiful....thank you anon

>> No.8165875

Why would someone stake vs selling LINK tokens? It's like choosing the monthly return vs the lumpsum of a lottery

>> No.8165888

GUYS IVE MADE MY OWN NODE
SEND ME ALL YOUR LINK AND I WILL CHARGE YOU LESS THAN LINKPOOL!

>> No.8165904

>>8165815

I'm actually going to run a node but also going to stake with LinkPool because my personal node rep, uptime and data access will be shit tier compared to theirs.

50k linklet here since October. Wish the /nubiz/ memes would calm down a bit though (all caps fags and fiverr vids)

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all of you will get btfo'd once linkpool's node gets attacked and fed with bad data resulting in losing your tokens as a penalty payment
>mfw

>> No.8165923

>>8165555
czeched

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>>8165555
fucking checked

>> No.8165962

>>8165697
It's actually the opposite, if I remember correctly. It will be 5% in the beginning, but as adoption increases and more contracts get executed using link, they speculate about 0,1-1% will already be an interesting rate of return.

We will see.

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>linkies defend this

NICE STICK MEN FAGGOTS AHAHA

>> No.8166003

>>8165905
good thing penalty tokens get moved to an escrow smart contract for 30 days during the investigation.

>> No.8166016

>>8165875
im wondering what i should do. its not like my stack is huge, its sub 10k but i will have to see closer to the time whether to stake or cash out and put it into a regular bank account that pays similar interest. i guess with staking you might be able to tumble the coins and all that and you still own the link. if its still going up its a nice way to keep your stack but still get an income

>> No.8166027

>>8165870
they basically promise to aggregate all the link tokens staked within one pool inside their chainlink node to have some form of reputation so that they wouldn't have any financial incentive of deviating from providing correct, real-word data that hasn't been tampered with. doing the opposite would result in losing the tokens, once it was discovered (=meaning that your node's provided values are bs)

>> No.8166068

>>8166003
if you're not talking out of your ass, that's amazing.
still: waiting up to 30 days for an investigation
>opportunity cost

>> No.8166085

>>8166016

You pay income tax on interest - you don't pay taxes on cryptos until you realise your capital gains (at least in my country).

Staking and having that income stream in crypto means you can defer any taxes until you want to realise gains, or just constantly cash out just below whatever your capital gains threshold is.

>> No.8166129

>>8165905
Linkpool say they are so confident in their nodes that the smart contracts eill specify that they will end up paying the penalties, if they occur. Not sure if that's how it's gonna go down though.

>> No.8166146

>>8165905
LINKPOOL have already said any penalties will come out of their "hot wallet" and they will never penalise stakers

>> No.8166151

IT dudes, would it be possible to run multiple nodes from the one computer? will something like a CL node be very resource intensive for the computer? im a linux noob and ive been reading about running X-sessions and shit like that. can you run many different virtual machines at once and run the software a few times simultaneously? im guessing the limiting factor would be internet connection in that case. what if you ran many virtual servers at once, or whatever the fuck theyre called, when you pay a company for their internet connection. pls no bully

>> No.8166156

What about the penalty though?
They stated earlier that the penalty would be paid from their own wallet, since it would be their fault if their node fail to deliver for whatever reason
This nee article seems to imply that oneself has to pay tor the penalty
Or am i wrong?

>> No.8166175

>>8165875

Because Link won't rise exponentially in price overnight... don't you want to earn a return on yor investment? If you're earning as little as 0.5% on 10,000 LINK, that's 50 LINK a month. Don't touch it till Link is $100, and you will have effectively made an extra $5,000 a month doing absolutley nothing

>> No.8166181

>>8166085
>>8166016
Have in mind that link price will go up with adoption so the roi might be low but you will be raking linkies that in the long run will be worth a lot.

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>>8165555
You're going to make it

>> No.8166191

>>8165527
MOMMY

>> No.8166229

>>8166068
i am but i imagine there will be some sort of token purgatory during a penalty payout over X amount. if someone attacks the network are you just supposed to eat that cost?

>> No.8166246

>>8166085
my countrys laws will no doubt be different and ill have to figure out a scheme like that, but it will be similar. imagine if this bitch moons and the board is filled with "how the fuck do i evade the law on my gainz" threads, filled with nolinkers getting all abusive and jelly saying we "ruined crypto"

>> No.8166273

My only doubt is if theres compound interest in staked links or not.

>> No.8166280

is this worth if I only end up with like 1k-2k link?

>> No.8166281

>>8166181
yeah thats pretty much what i was considering as the reason not to cash out in the long run. i just hope i have the balls to hold once it starts hitting big numbers

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>>8165149
I swear I signed up on the linkpool site a couple months ago but never got an email. Now their site says the beta is closed. Will I be able to use my 50k linkies with these guys or what??

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>>8165555
>>8165677
>>8165700
>>8165711
>>8165888

We need more digits.

>> No.8166397

Pre Sibos 50k linkies going to make me stinky rich in 2018 boys

>> No.8166432

>>8165459
underrated

>> No.8166461

Wow, functioning alpha node on ethereum test net is massive. Just a few weeks ago one of the devs was saying the functionality isn't "there" yet, but Jonny and the community's overwhelming involvement with the go release is making shit move at an incredible rate.

I hope that when I'm finished writing this and check binance, LINK will still be dumping so I can buy more. Unironic post.

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>>8165987
>redditor has never heard of UML diagrams
calm down, child

>> No.8166479

>>8165904
>fiverr vids
holy fuck that stinky linky vid was fiverr? i genuinely thought we had literal 12 year olds among us

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>>8165555

>> No.8166535

>>8166346
58k linkies here....see y'all in lambo land soon!

>> No.8166554

>>8165555
fucking checked my man

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>>8165875
have you been struck in the head recently m8? i ask out of genuine concern

>> No.8166649

Hey Jonny I know you are here lurking. Can you please start capitalizing ChainLink properly. Note the capital L

>> No.8166665

>>8165723
>No one knows, Linkpool devs said 0.1-1% returns on tokens a month initially, upwards of 5% in the future with adoption (years from now)
>>8165857
>Number of token staked, returns on a monthlt basis:
If the price of a Link token would be, lets say, 100usd, wouldn't be the cost of the contract too high? Wouldn't companies seek for another solution then?

>> No.8166702

>>8166665
>>8166666

>> No.8166750

>>8165670
did you see the quads a few posts above you though? suck on that

>> No.8166768

>>8166665
LINK is divisible to 18 decimals. If the market price of linking a contract is $0.50 and tokens are $100 each, they would pay 0.005 Link. This is why you want to start staking ASAP.

If it's still $0.50, and Link is $1, you'd earn 0.5 Link.

That being said, the more network usage, the more we will earn volume-wise.

>> No.8166773 [DELETED] 

fuck, just tried to verify new card and now fucking coinbase froze me out. fuck chase. fuck coinbase.

0x38575761f7281febd11b1ec47d027c8cc7284b61

poorfag here

>> No.8166790

>>8166151
>would it be possible to run multiple nodes from the one computer?
it should be ran from virtual private server for internet connection and hardware stability

>> No.8166915

>>8166461
requesting QRD on johnny.

>> No.8166954

>>8166790
thanks anon

>> No.8166983

>>8166773
Fucking pathetic

>> No.8167047

>>8166768
So the higher the price for token is, the lower is monthly token income.
So >>8165962 is right, 5% in the beginning, 0,1-1% later. It means devs calculate about 5000% long term increase of price from the launch of first nodes.

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>>8165149
Those nodes will be alpha as fuck.

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>>8165555
Checked

>> No.8167388

>>8166915

Very talented dev ops career, smart contract programmer and auditor with a great mindset for security. Lead developer on the Linkpool.io project as well as a major contributor to the primary chainlink code

He's a real gem

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Kek loves Link memes

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>>8165555

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>>8165555
uh uhh LINKies uh uh find a way

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So /biz/, we trust Johnny with our money?

>> No.8167568

>>8167533
It’s looking that way

>> No.8167622

>>8167047

No, he's wrong. I remember Mat Beale discussing it on the Telegram chat. He's just using a constant price of Link in his calculations.

Think about it, your monthly income in $ will esentially either be the same, or increase as the network is adopted. Assuming the amount of Linked contracts doubles (in USD):

If you earn 50 Link @ $1 Link, you made $50.
If you earn 5 Link @ $20 Link, you made $100.

My point is to maximize the amount of Link you receive initially because it will increase in price and have a multiplying effect. Those 50 Link you earned in the example above is now worth $1,000 @ $20/Link, and even more at $100, $200, etc.

You want to leave your tokens in the node as long as possible because older, more reliable nodes will receive more transactions. Plus, if anyone removes their link, your Link in proportion to the total Link in the node will increase, yielding an even higher return. Read Linkpool's articles on Medium for more clarification.

>> No.8167726

>>8166649
Let Jonny do Jonny man.

>> No.8167754

>>8165442
You are an idiot if you don't think this is huge. This clears up a lot of worries a lot of people had about linkpool security. You retarded holders wouldn't care about it anyway because you're planning on selling once it hits a dollar. For the rest of us this is going to be passive income and a shitload of free link.

>> No.8167822

>>8165149
30k link checking in. Goal is 50k. This is fucking huge because it's true

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>>8167533
Anyone will be able to just look at the smart contract code and confirm with 100% certainty if it's safe or not.
That's the beauty of smart contracts. Even if Johnny wanted to fuck us up he would have absolutely no way to if the code has no holes in it.

>> No.8167911

>>8167622
Doesnt this also tie up some circulation of Link which in turn increases its value as well due to a reduction of supply vs demand?

>> No.8167994

>>8167726
I'd rather he stylize it correctly actually. I would think the SmartContract team would prefer it as well. He doesn't type Linkpool, its LinkPool, same deal...

>> No.8168243

>>8167911
Yup. That's why we believe in Singularity. It's not some bullshit concept. It makes sense. Everyone will be staking so the amount of LINKs you'll be able to purchase will be very minimal which will sky rocket the price high enough for a lot of us to become rich and sell. That's exactly how singularity works.

>> No.8168333

>>8166305
yeah i got fucked on this too desu...think it's a sign for me to run my own node..idk. We'll see how things unfold.

>> No.8168344

>>8167994
agreed

>> No.8168350

Would Smart Contracts have any effect on the gambling industry?

Surely smart contracts could use BBC, ESPN, etc to decide a bet between two people on opposite sides of the world who have differing opinions on the outcome of a game.

It would just be like you betting with your mates in the pub.(No Middleman)

>> No.8168372

>>8168350
there's only LINK in the future (and ETH)

>> No.8168382

>>8167853
>if the code has no holes in it
Because software doesn't have bugs or anything.

>> No.8168393

>>8168243
Thanks for clarification, makes sense. Singularity, I dig it.

>> No.8168402

>>8168350
Yes m8. There are so many possibilities.

>> No.8168413

>>8168382
Read my post again, you dumb tripfaggot
filtered btw

>> No.8168414

>>8168393
Hi dad

>> No.8168476

>>8168350
Whats the point in running this through a smart contract incurring additional costs for something that a betting company already does fine without these fees

>> No.8168485

>see chainLINK getting shilled 24/7
>always disregard it
>FINALLY check the price

HAHAHAHHHAHAHAH

whst the FUCK dude its less thna handfull of NICKELS.

im fucking done...how is this trash worthwhile?

>> No.8168549

>>8168476

Because the person placing the bet (issuing the contract) could give better odds. Or maybe Gambling is banned in a region but smart contracts aren't.

>> No.8168561

>>8168476
Because not everyone wants to go through a betting company especially if it's just between a couple of dudes making a friendly bet.

>> No.8168574

>>8168485
>hahaha no way im buying low. I'll wait

>> No.8168576

>>8168485
the fuck are you saying, people should buy coins that dont have room to grow?
absolute state

>> No.8168626

>>8168574
>>8168576
Bitcoin, litecoin, and ETH all moved out of the single dollar zone by now.

>> No.8168703

>>8168626
Are you braindead?

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>>8168485
>>FINALLY check the price
everything is down right now retard
>.how is this trash worthwhile?
dyor retard BUT YOU WONT, so stay poor xd

>> No.8168732

>>8167388
so linkpool is a goer? i hope they do well, i think ill park my bags with them when the time comes

>> No.8168775

>>8168382
what do you mean? why the fuck would you worry about insects nigga its digital HAHAHAHA wtf are you talking about just turn your computer off when you arent using your LINKs you fucktard

>> No.8168804

>>8168476
because bookies are retarded scumbags who freeze your accounts when you win and shit. they also dont allow arbitrage traders and all sorts of things. you really need to stop saying "why do this when theres already somebody doing it" - THATS THE POINT - to replace those faggot third parties

>> No.8168819

>>8168485
buy high, sell low. good plan anon

>> No.8168835

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4hR4rDbJPM4

vid of Sergey discussing link on livestream, huge if big

>> No.8168845

>>8168382
this nigga thinking cockroaches gon eat his CDs and shit

>> No.8168910

>>8165149
That is not huge at all.

Huge would be things like partnerships announced, mainnet released, etc. This is just LinkPool making an announcement about what they'll do with the tokens they get.

Stop giving these linktards false hope ;)

>> No.8168942

>>8168835
fiverr request
its some good shit lad

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8168993

So everyone keeps saying price singularity because staking but ummmmmmm... Ark's had staking for a long time?

>> No.8169015

>>8168993
read the whitepaper anon. this isnt some coin its a network. CL is a token that allows use of the network

>> No.8169165

>>8168993
Think system or platform to support new technology rather than some replacement service.

>> No.8169394

>>8168910

Partnerships are a meme
Trustless linkpool is real

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>>8165555
Good job Major. Soon!

>> No.8169642

>>8166768
How are we gonna do this. The registry is down for now

>> No.8169903

>>8168993
You have to be trolling

>> No.8170000

>>8169642
That was for the beta, you can’t actually earn any Link for running a node until the full implementation is released

>>8167911
Yes, a good number of tokens will be stashed away for years.

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>>8165149
How am I supposed to know whether their smart contract is going to scam me or not. They can just say that they dont have them but add code in the smart contract that gives them a back door. Not gonna fall for this scam.

>> No.8170268

>>8170146
how do you know your neighbour isnt going to break down your door and rape you to death? everything is a risk, assess each risk as you go. whoever storms the castle wins the loot, but also runs the greatest risk of catching an arrow. just how it goes. there are ways to check though. i want to learn to read these APIs just so i can be like a "smartcontract advisor"

>> No.8170278

Someone post Jason Parser images

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>>8170268
Another thing though is that the medium article explicitly states that they have to be coding as they go in a fast-changing environment. So who's to say that some malicious code couldnt make its way in there after a lot of people hop on board that have reviewed it?

>> No.8170731

>>8170416
im not familiar enough with how it really works unfortunately. but i would assume that any changes to a smartcontract are done on some kind of blockchain so there is a record of what exactly was changed or something. to be sure, pooling with a company like this adds a type of centralization and with that comes the need to trust them i guess and theres the risk. you could just run a node for yourself i guess but i dont think i will. i like the idea of a pool but im also like you and im wary of the risk. we will probably know more later on

>> No.8170794

>>8170416
They will be coding adapters to make the oracle side of things work better. They won't need to change the staking contract

>> No.8170855

>>8168243
If you stake LINK is it possible to take it back?

>> No.8171147

>>8167622

I would have to remove all my LINK from a node in order to lose my spot correct?

>> No.8172152

Does anyone have that we're all in this together positive vibes mantra shit?

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>>8172152

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>>8172274

>> No.8172458

>>8170855
Yes, and checked

>> No.8172601

>>8171147

Correct. Just bear in mind that it’s all based on percentages. If a nodes capacity is 50,000 LINK and you have 5 people with 10,000 staked, earning 0.5% a month, which will add 250 LINK to the node, 50 per user. If you withdrawal your 50 LINK each month, you’ll have less than 20% of the total Link in the node, and will earn less LINK over time.

It’s a bit confusing. Read their articles on Medium for clarification.

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>>8165149
IF YOU INVEST IN CHAINLINK YOU INVEST IN THE USURPATION OF THE WEST

>> No.8172661

>>8172601
10k split among the 5 or 10k each? like how does node capacity work? gonna read the medium article later, but im software brainlet

>> No.8172687 [DELETED] 

>>8172458
love it

>> No.8172706

>>8172628
No one cares.

>> No.8172714

>>8172397
love it

>> No.8172723

>>8172601
Its more like a node capacity is say 50k and 5 people each have 10K in. After some time, no one has removed any link and they're all at an even 15K. 3 guys decide to sell 5K each. Right after, one guy decides to leave with all of his


>Guy 1: 15K
>Guy 2: 10K
>Guy 3: 10K
>Guy 4: 10K
>Guy 5: 0K

Well the node capacity is still 50K, so before anyone new can join, the current stakers will automatically backfill with whatever earnings they left on the node. In this case, guy 2-4 will have the same 20% stake, but guy 1 will move from 20% to 30% stake. Once the capacity has been reached you only earn link from your contribution to the capacity but if/when people leave you have the opportunity to backfill to increase that. Basically it'll turn into a game of staking enough to capture an increase when people leave and selling enough to pay for hookers and blow

>> No.8172757

>>8172706
No surprises that the chainlink cult is going down with the ship

just letting prospective new investors know

IF YOU INVEST IN CHAINLINK YOU INVEST IN THE USURPATION OF THE WEST

>> No.8172760
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>> No.8172767

An anon from another thread said that LINK would never reach adoption because of the constant maintenance required to re-task the oracles, can someone unfud this?

>> No.8172811

>>8172757
Here's a (You)

>> No.8172877

>>8172757
IF YOU USE FIAT YOU ARE INSTRUMENTAL IN THE USURPATION OF THE WEST

>> No.8172985

>>8170146
Stop. Posting. Memes. Of. Spongebob. In. Chainlink. Threads