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Robots will replace all jobs eventually. You compsci majors, engineers and trades/wageslave workers will be fucked in the next few decades if not sooner.

>> No.814088

>>814083

While I largely agree I'm in the process of filling out applications to medical school and graduate schools for psychology. Once I become a physician/psychiatrist or fully certified clinical psychologist with a PhD, I won't have to worry about getting a job because medicine and especially psychologists have an extremely low chance of being automated.

You can check and see to find out the chance of different types of jobs being automated here

http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/05/21/408234543/will-your-job-be-done-by-a-machine

Medical doctors have a 0.4% chance of being automated and psychologists have a 0.5% chance of being automated. Being a psychologist has been awarded one of the best jobs http://www.canadianbusiness.com/lists-and-rankings/best-jobs/2014-psychologist/

Many who have their own private practice make between $100,000-$200,000 a year. Those employed by firms, schools and stuff like that make anywhere from perhaps 50k-90k. The mean salary for them is 77k. Psychiatrists on the other hand are medical doctors so they make very good money. Some make as low as 150k, some make over 400k. Depends on where you live, and many other things.

Overall, I am very optimistic about the future. I am in my early 20's, have no debt because my mother is paying for my education and I have around 105k. I don't think I have much to worry about.

>> No.814097

So your argument is that robots will replace all labor and every human will starve or something?

>> No.814102

>>814097

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

>> No.814105

>>814083
>You compsci majors, engineers
Those are the exact fields that are safest, as they are the ones making and maintaining robots.

>> No.814107

>>814105

Millions of people are getting those degrees though. Eventually the field will be like law and will become over saturated.

>> No.814109

>>814107
The US and Australia are starved for engineers and are expected to still be for about 20 years. Governments are pushing primary schools to get children more interested in science, maths, programming etc just to remedy this problem. Our jobs aren't going anywhere, and a sudden boom in robot workers would only give us more clientele.

>> No.814110

>>814088


Nanobots in your blood stream will be better doctors than a team of board certified doctors.

>> No.814111

bitcoin will replace all fiat eventually. I feel bad for anyone not owning bitcoin

>> No.814117

>>814083
>compsci majors

This will keep me employed until the 2040s.

>> No.814132

It's threads like these that make me glad the NWO is being built.

>> No.814198

>>814110

Not any time soon

>> No.814210

>>814110
Nanobots will simply become another medical device for doctors to use.

>> No.814224

>>814210

No they will be the doctors.

Essentially a doctor is going to say " the nanobots said this this and this and they prescribed this this and this, and I agree with it." They will be a glorified confirmer and no one will pay them to do that. At first doctors will still be around because as humans we are more likely to believe something if a human is telling it to us. But evantually doctors will become obsolete as the nanobots will be able to give a complete diagnostic on you and every organ in your body.

>> No.814225

I'll be retired before then, so IDGAF

>> No.814287

>>814083
Nah.

Robots will probably replace a specific subset of *muscle* jobs. That's it. After that, you're talking about AI.

Specifically, AI that can mimic humans ability to be creative, which is an analogous idea of perpetual motion machines in the past. Simply impossible.

In any case, only extremely predictive and repetitive tasks may be in order to be taken on by automation. An those were jobs not fitted for humans in the first place. Most people have absolutely nothing to worry about.

>> No.814305

>>814287

See

>>814102

>> No.814315

>>814305
I had seen that video a couple of months ago.

Robots surely have a place, I'm not denying that. And they can cheapen up some processes a lot (shelf-picking robots Amazon uses is a good example of this).

Sadly, Moore's Law doesn't apply to robotics and thus, that dumb barista-robot which probably costed several hundred thousands in research/develop to follow a limited set of instructions (re-programmable, yeah, but still) will still cost a lot for any other robot of the sort. It's not equivalent to general purpose computers, as the narrator of the video claims.

So, in simple words, any jobs that are not fitted for humans will be automated at some point in the future. And most importantly: robots will aid humans in their jobs but they will not replace them.

>> No.814330

Well designed rules engines will replace tier 1 developers for most major corporations in the next 5-10 years.

>> No.814366

>>814088
>87,9%
kill me

>> No.814371

>>814107
everyone who graduates is a fucking retard

there is plenty of room at the top

>> No.814373

>>814366

lol what are you going for?

>> No.814376
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814376

>>814373
technical surveyor
but it's not in the list, and cartographers and photogrammetrists is the closest to it.
yeah it's a cheap job anyway, but i don't have that much options since pic related.

>> No.814380

>>814376

Aw. Anon, you can do anything if you put your mind to it.

>> No.814384

>>814380
>>hey coworker can you help me at something
>but anon the solution is just right there in front of you already marked
>but i told it to you already 10 times
>you really don't know how to write a proper email/print things/archive something?
>stop asking me something every 3 minutes
>>oh

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814385

>>814083
We will have to invent loose scruples for robots in order to compete with them.

>> No.814467

>muh baxter

Viral scammers pls go.

>> No.814476

>>814111
Aint bitcoin a for of fiat?

>> No.814492

>>814109
keep believing the party line fool.

>> No.814515

>>814287
There is a huge difference between perpetual motion machines, which violate the most basic principles of physics, and AI, which has no known physics preventing it. After all, the human brain is a hunk of meat that can think, so logically some other configuration of matter should be able to think in a similar manner. Unless you think there is some novel physics that only lets brains think.

That said, an AI that can replace most intellectual jobs is probably decades away, and not something to worry about.

>> No.814518

>>814376
get good at it
start your own contracting business
then buy the robots once they come and your business will make lots of money.

>> No.814811

>>814515


Right so those at the top will just keep use parasites who can't work alive, out of compassion?

>> No.815044

>>814083
That's why I've invested in ROBO. Also, art will probably stay a human domain for quite a while, because it's informed by human experience.

>>814476
I'm not sure about the exact definition of fiat, but bitcoin is an unusual form of currency because it's unique. No reason it has to be bitcoin rather than something else though, I think the only reason people would use bitcoin instead of a different cryptocurrency is nostalgia.

>> No.815045

>>815044
>unusual because it's unique
I'm an idiot. I meant to write that there's a limited supply, unlike most currencies in circulation today.

>> No.815084

>>815044

Art is not something that serves any utility or practicality therefore the future has no use for it

>> No.815087

>>814083
Don't forget the doctors and the whole medical industry.

>> No.815090

>>814088
All mental disorders will eventually be detectable using technology. Until that day you might be safe.

>> No.815102

>>814088
Too bad you biologically cannot know how every single drug reacts with every other drug and the misdiagnosises in medicine is fucking scary. I agree that surgeons are a long way away from being automated but physicians are bye bye. Robots are cheaper and more accurate than physicians. You can't tell me you read ALL the new medical articals every year. Medicine is a constantly changing science and robots far outpace humans in keeping up with all of it.

>> No.815120

>>815090
The vast majority of mental 'disorders' aren't.

Due to their extremely subjective nature and diagnosis, it's practically a certainty that future developments won't automate psychiatry or psychology. If only because it's made-up bullshit spouted by jewish crackheads to begin with.

Those two fields will persist for as long as the snake-oil salesman does.

>> No.815126

>>814109
>The US and Australia are starved for engineers and are expec...

>US
>starved for engineers

Stop spewing bullshit you know nothing about. The US is nowhere NEAR "starved" for engineers. There are 20 new engineering grads applying to every single open position, and you're only "guaranteed" a job straight out of college if you know someone or get extremely, extremely lucky.

>> No.815146

>>815090

See

>>815120

It's true. Psychiatry/psychology is a reliable field that will be free from automation for decades.


>>815102

Psychiatry is the exception. And robots won't be replacing physicians anytime this century. It's still a safe bet for a career.

>> No.815162

>>814105
Nope safest are writers, producers, or anything relating to art. Art is probably the best way to go. Glad I am :D

>> No.815182

If an AI is created which mimic human behavior/intelligence then we're fucked. It will do all the jobs we can do.

>> No.815185

Job automation may just create more valuable jobs for humans. There's no point in machines making millions of things, building things, harvesting things, etc if no one has any money to buy the product.

>> No.815202

>>815182
You don't even need to go that far. A "doctor bot" doesn't need to be able to hold a convincing conversation with you, or act like Data from Star Trek. It just needs to be able to accurately collect information on your symptoms and be able to cross reference that information with a medical database and be able to deliver a diagnosis and treatment for your condition. It also doesn't have to be perfect, it only needs to be as good (or better) on average as a human doctor (which isn't necessarily that difficult a target to meet).

>> No.815230

>>815084
Autism personified

>> No.815266

>>814083
What are we supposed to do when robots take our jobs?

>> No.815277

>>815266


Die

The occult elite will no longer need you.

>> No.815299

Not comp sci majors. Maybe blunt labor, etc.

>> No.815326

>>815277
There is no occult leadership, you tard. Stay off pol.

>> No.815329

Robot driven economy, basic income combined with population control

Thats the future boys

>> No.815333

>>815326


You ought to look at more pop music videos

>> No.815334

>>815329

If you do it on corporate/financial level mass culling is a lot easier on the system in the long run.

Basic income is literally implying that those at the very top have compassion for the rest of us.

>> No.815529

>>814088
>Medical doctors have a 0.4% chance of being automated

You could not be more wrong.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-02/11/ibm-watson-medical-doctor

Watson's diagnostic capabilities are far superior to any shitty human doctor, not only this, but the system is far better at analysing drug efficacy in addition to knowing how drugs interract.

Human doctors will be worth absolutely fuck all within 20 years. Totally, absolutely useless.

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>>814083
>CSE majors will be boxed out by robots
Literally what

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815547

>Securities Commodities and Financial Services Sales Agents have a 1.6% chance of being automated.

>> No.815552

>>814088
Did someone just sit and pull these numbers out of their ass?

>> No.815555

>>815529
Something like Watson will assist, not replace, human doctors.

I places them at no real risk that in the next 30 years.

>> No.815951

>>815120
*tips fedora*

>> No.815961

>>814083
Good thing I got that English degree! Robots will never be able to write.

>> No.816209

You'll never get anything related to forensics completely automatized. Sure a robot might have an easier time surveying a crime scene or analyzing evidence in a lab, but unless we create a socially accepted form of AI their testimonies will never be completely trusted in courts.

>> No.816229

>>814330
Look at your typical college graduate from compsci. They can't reason themselves out of a paper bag. You expect a business manager to be able to figure out the "rules engine" in specific enough ways to have it do what he wants? Programming is a difficult problem. There's only so many ways to simplify things.

>> No.816247

>>814109
I got a degree in mechanical engineering in Australia. Unemployed like a motherfucker. Every position gets hundreds of apps.

>> No.816254

>>814315
Hey bud, I'm guessing English isn't your first language.

Its 'cost' not 'costed', and 'fit' not 'fitted'.

>> No.816259
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816259

Fact: In a couple of decades 80% of humans will be obsolete. They will literally be unhire-able.

This leaves 3 options

>Mass Culling
>Mass Segregation
>Basic Income

Mass culling will only work if those freemasons conspiracy theories regarding the NWO is true.

Mass segregation seems the most likely. ALA elysium.

The problem with basic income is that it implies that those at the top of the food chain have compassion and are willing to waste finite resources so that all 7 billion of us can live in the future paradise.


It's going to be a very very very beautiful future.

However

>The transition will be equally as ugly.

Enjoy.

>> No.816279

>>816259
>7 billion
>decades from now.

The world population literally doubled from 1965 to 2010. In a couple decades we're looking at 10 billion.

>> No.816298

>>814515
That's true. I made a bad analogy. An AI such as the one OP is talking about is certainly possible with neural networks and such. But like you said, it's probably decades away, if not more, unlike what OP claims.

And one that can reach the power of a human brain is even further away.

>> No.816308

>>816254
You're right, it isn't. Thanks.

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816688

Joke's on you, I'm a musician and will never have a job anyway.

>> No.816711

>>814083

People have been predicting this for decades. It's always 'just around the corner'

It won't replace the jobs of the people who need to maintain the robots. And there will always be need for engineers.

>> No.816750

>>816688
Emily Howell disagrees.

>> No.816762

>>815531
>CSE
Indian or Chinese international student at the UW detected.

>> No.816788

>electrical engineers
>replaced by robots
>ever

kek

>> No.816830

>>816750
>What is reading comprehenson?
I obviously meant that I'm not worried about being replaced by robots because I'll never make money anyway, so even if I was replaced it would have no effect on me.

That program will never replace musicians anyway, since there need to be different ones for different styles and tastes, and there will always be many musicians that are preferred by the public. That program will just be another option to the listener and that's it.

>> No.817241

>>816711
what about a robot that maintains the other robots