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Imagine if VEN had catapaulted after the rebrand, rather than this weak fizzle. Biz would be filled with nothing but shill threads. People would have felt as though they invested in the most promising coin of 2018. $100 EOY

That is called post hoc rationalization and it's why most of you will forever be poor. I read these threads, I read some stuff on Le'ddit and all I can do is laugh.

You'd think some of these sunny grabbed my nuts memes had come to fruition. Or maybe the partnerships were fraudulent. Or Jim Breyer detached himself.

But no, all we've seen this week was another handful of billion dollar partnerships, a pair of extremely illuminating technical AMAs, a unification with Oxford's math lab (crypto is pure mathematics), and a successful rebrand.

And what do we have? A bunch of brooding manchildren whining because the coin didn't pump and grant them financial freedom overnight. The FUD is comically petty. From conspiracy theories to basic worries about the token model which has been described in detail by Sunny himself on the YouTube AMA.

Sometimes the markets are just as irrational and chaotic as they seem anons. Look around you. Is any coin thriving right now?

>> No.7982765

>>7982686
This desu. I should just get a masternode now

>> No.7982769

Agreed anon. If you fags are so unhappy why didn't you sell your bags before the event? You know how sell the news works in this fucky market right? Or you could just live your life normally and sit on your VEN for a year and be 10x more wealthy.

>> No.7982791
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7982791

>>7982686

Fucking piece of shit

>> No.7982795

>>7982686
Not reading all that shit but based on the sheer volume of text, you sound worried.

Just dump like the rest of us did.

>> No.7982817

>>7982686
>But no, all we've seen this week was another handful of billion dollar partnerships, a pair of extremely illuminating technical AMAs, a unification with Oxford's math lab (crypto is pure mathematics), and a successful rebrand.
Cool, Now show me the whitepaper.

>> No.7982834

>>7982686
Pretty much. I got in early and have a decent portion in my long term. No worries.

>> No.7982843

>>7982686
Thank you senpai holy shit /biz/ is so fucking retarded. I am holding my node for 5-10 years earning passive income. You faggots keep trying to time the market and see how that works out for you. Get rekt. VET Top 3 by EOY

>> No.7982866

>>7982817
Show me any Fortune 500 companies whitepaper.

It's being released within 1-2 weeks according to Sunny last month anyways desu

>> No.7982988

I'm not selling but the immaturity of the whole thing worries me. They have amazing partners, yes. However watching that stream and the promo video I have to wonder how they managed to get them. You could see it on Luca criscottis face, it was extremely cringey stuff. Nevermind that the last minute announcement of BMW basically confirms that cck works for them. Which is pretty unironically shady considering his racist 4chan posts.

This has great potential and I won't sell as it'll be fine long term. Some mixture of Breyer/pwc/dnvgl is hooking them up with clients and that's all that's needed.

>> No.7983007

>>7982988
Then again maybe the marketing aspect is lost in translation for me, I'm sure the Chinese love it

>> No.7983070

>>7982988
Sure it was cringey, but seriously, who the fuck really cares? /biz/ makes it seem like that somehow invalidates everything the company already is and the connections they have.

>> No.7983103

>>7982988
Honestly anon I liked the marketing

>> No.7983113

>>7982988
This is exactly the sort of stuff I'm taking about. If the price was mooning you wouldn't be thinking twice about this sort of thing. But instead you're looking for trivial points of failure out of fear.

>> No.7983127

I think people should have noticed when you had who actually works for VW shilling IOTA that the BMW shit wouldn't have done anything.

The thing is everyone is forgetting the most important part and that VeChain already has a token (BitOcean) planning to run on VEN's platform.

BitOcean will be huge too, the first actual financially regulated exchange in Japan,

Now imagine if BitOcean has primarily VEN pairings for most coins.

>> No.7983156

I'd recommend you all watch this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IWoEsBQFozM

>> No.7983318

>>7982686
Did they actually put "The Rumor is True" on their own marketing material?

>> No.7983389

>>7983113
Hey I understand what you mean but I'm not selling anytime soon unless sunny literally rapes someone. As long as the real world uses keep rolling in its okay in my eyes. Still, I do have my concerns about their marketing and I don't think it's nitpicking.

>> No.7983403

>biz is nothing but instant gratification manchildren
That's not a /biz/ exclusive trait. That's more like a 4chan thing. Just look at /v/, /a/, /pol/ and even /ck/.

>> No.7983464

>>7983318
Yeh.
Sunny even said "oh yeh and one more thing" like he's Steve Jobs or something, cringy as fuck.

>> No.7983478

>>7983127

>Now imagine if BitOcean has primarily VEN pairings for most coins.

*cums*

>> No.7983483

>>7983318
Bmw has been a rumor for a while before even CK confirmed it.

>> No.7983495

>>7983156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-SS-R41TZY

i recommend you watch this

>> No.7983502

>>7982686
I'm just upset that i didn't buy more at 1.50
Really don't want to buy more at 5, i feel like i'm losing

>> No.7983517

>>7983464
Do you know what the word cringe means? It's YOUR perception and nothing more. 4chan seems to find anything that isn't racist, misanthropic, or vulgar cringey anyways, so the word becomes meaningless.

Anyways, the BMW partnership was confirmed in early Jan if you watch the AMA

>> No.7983543

>>7982686
LOL Literal chink scam. Closed sourced, centralized. No 500 company wanna trust chinks. BMW and Wine have no problems with fakes. Who every had a fake bmw or part or fake wine? Chinks love fake shit. Everything fake made from china. No company buying ven tokens to put items on blockchain when fakes were never a problem

>> No.7983544

>>7982686
pretty much summed up biz nicely. bunch of fucking kids with 200 bucks in crypto wanting to become a crypto millionaire overnight. stay poor faggots.

>> No.7983550

when are they releasing the winner of the slogan competition?

I'm gonna win it

>> No.7983573

CHHIINNNGGG CHHOOONNGGG VEN GGOOOOONNNE

>> No.7983586

>>7982686
> implying people aren't ironically fudding VEN so they can accumulate until it inevitably blows up

>> No.7983590

>>7983464
It typifies VeChain for me. Amazing announcement, details need to be released but likely to be one of the biggest real world applications of block chain tech so far, they aren't making these partnerships up.

On the other hand you have the ridiculous way it was announced, the very dodgy cck angle (let's be real, he works for them) and just the whole event in general.

It's almost reassuring to me, my guess is their advisors are pulling some serious strings behind the scenes. I can't see how all these partnerships keep happening otherwise. This thing is either gonna fall flat and be remembered as some chink hypecoin with some genuine uses or its going to become absolutely huge.

>> No.7983608

>>7983586
>implying /biz/ has an effect on the market

>> No.7983612

>>7982686
I'm wary of chinkcoins now so not buying this fud or no fud, holding a bag of icx and a bag of dbc

>> No.7983621

Investors want to see working technology, not hyped partnerships and an unnecessary “rebrand” event. I think a lot of people got turned off by VEN’s underwhelming tech demo video, CCK tweets, and the non-stop shilling.

VeChain sets huge expectations for itself and fails to live up to their own hype. That's why everyone's dumping them. Investors want to see VEN's product, not partnerships and marketing promos.

>> No.7983631

>>7982765
Yes, a Walton masternode

>> No.7983643

>>7983621
pasta

>> No.7983648

No tech talk, shitty little tag presser being used commercially, no whitepaper, no talk about token economics aka no one knows what the token value on the blockchain. Inside information being leaked, pay shilling on all cryptoforums.
There is no Github activity
DNL GV cooperated with Deloitte labs to create blockchain.
Vechain tweeted about Vitalik being advisor, later deleted tweet when called out by Vitalik himself.
None of their partnerships has mentioned that they will use RFID.
People saying their blockchain is in use now, so then they dont need your masternodes?

they claimed vitalik was their general manager back in December until January when vitalik made things clear that he never joined their

>> No.7983649

>>7982795
kek

>> No.7983662

>>7983621

how do you think they're getting these partnerships without a working product, you moron
DNVGL are already shilling that the tech is already working on current projects

>> No.7983666

>>7982686
It's all the newfags who are looking at how rich people got last year and going "WAAAAAAHH I WANT THAT NOOOOOWW"

>> No.7983683

>>7983662
it's a copypasta dude. as is >>7983648

>> No.7983690

>>7983612
> not buying chink shitcoins
> holds icx and dbc
LOL

>> No.7983722

>>7983690
That's why I'm not buying anymore, icx and dbc haven't done shit except for approach 0

>> No.7983738

>>7983722
This fucking bear market right

>> No.7983745

>>7983683
It's my own pasta you brainlet. And you still can't refute any of my points.

>> No.7983763

>>7983745
i can i just cbf playing into bait, obviously.

>> No.7983828

>>7983763
This point does worry me actually

>no talk about token economics aka no one knows what the token value on the blockchain.

>> No.7983834

>>7983763
And that sums up the VeChain community right there. Sunny is separating the laowai from their money and y'all can't be bothered into doing anything about it.

>> No.7983866

>>7983648
Do you ever get sick of copy pasting the same bullshit all the time?

>> No.7983878

>>7983834
except I'm already over 100x in profit so, regardless, that makes no sense with respect to me

>> No.7983883

>>7983866
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76IPkJM_Egg

>> No.7983931

>>7983834
https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-apotheosis-part-ii-thor-power-forged-974111a93278

The vitalik FUD was disproven on plebbit months ago. It was not the team who published that. You probably know this as well, but like to be a little shithead. Nice life

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>>7983495

>> No.7983966

>>7983464
https://youtu.be/fj7uJYSQ-CM?t=5m30s

kill me

>> No.7983977

>>7983543
Fakes never a problem? I live in NYC where there used to be the biggest underground counterfeit market.

Now these guys get raided non-stop and have to sell out of trucks and line up customers in a nearby park.

Leave your basement you fucking NEET.

>> No.7984025

>>7983932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76IPkJM_Egg

>> No.7984031

I think Vechain will benefit holders with thor power rewards not pumping VEN's price.

If you don't have a node, there's no point in buying Vechain reminder.

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7984076

>>7982686
>thinking anyone will read this short-story

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7984084

>>7983931
They didn’t disprove shit. VeChain lied and are still lying. Look at the VeChain Development Plan, page 15:

https://cdn.vechain.com/vechain_ico_ideas_of_development_en.pdf

“In the whole process of evolving, our technical team got many supports from lots
of great leaders, like the founder of the Ethereum- Vitalik, the founder of JaxxAnthony and many others. We feel grateful and appreciate of your open mind and the passion to the technology innovation”

Vitalk tweets this:

What's VeChain? (exagerrating a bit, but seriously, I've never talked about it)

https://twitter.com/vitalikbuterin/status/955473335999258624

>> No.7984149

>>7984084
it's because Fenbushi capital invested in Vechain and Vitalik was an advisor at the time. They shouldn't have done it but seriously why are you so obsessed with this? Nobody cares

>> No.7984192

>>7984084
You still left out the fenbushi connection.

Are you doing this for a dopamine hit? Nobody believes that you care about the well being of anyone here. You want attention. Congrats

>> No.7984218

>>7984149
Because it shows a pattern of shady behavior. Sensible investors care about stuff like. And the lambo moon mission kids are too dumb to care.

>> No.7984231

>>7984218
The lambo moon mission kids sold when it didn't immediately moon.

>> No.7984236

>>7984218
There can't be shady without sunny

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7984277

>>7984218
Pic very related

>> No.7984286

>>7984084
Vechain is such shit, anyone investing in this did so because of hype. Put money in vechain and you will lose it.

Only good for pumps, this shit will be dead in a year.

>> No.7984371

>>7984286
Thanks just bought 1000 VEN

>> No.7984381

>>7982988
Lmao CCK has never even heard of this site

>> No.7984464

>>7984381
lol cck started on 4chan lil boy

>> No.7984489

>>7984381
Lol.. in some of his deleted tweets he made fun of pajeets and linked to 4chan.

>> No.7984513

>>7984489
Who doesn't make fun of pajeets? They're piece of shit scammers. They don't bring anything to the tech community.

>> No.7984525

30k VEN reporting in, are we still going to make it VEN brahs?

>> No.7984541

>>7984381
areyou retarded? CCK links direct /biz/ threads on twitter

>> No.7984552

>>7984525
Yeah if you stake it, you should be set for life and you'll get bonus shit from VeChain

>> No.7984570

>>7982988
watch the neo rebranding and tell me that was anybetter.
its just a time to have fun, and make some announcements.
neo dumped hard after its rebranding live stream, im glad we arent dumping too hard but fizzling out. people know now not to dump because of a cringey rebranding event. thats for shits and giggles

>> No.7984601

>>7984525
>tfw you will never have a strength node

>> No.7984664

>>7984525
you will have 30k$ eoy

>> No.7985036

http://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/abgasskandal-regierung-rechnet-bei-bmw-mit-systematischer-manipulation-a-1195437.html

Have fun translating. And good luck with the bmw partnership.