/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.7679741]

Last chance to get in.

[Anonymous No.7679762]

>>7679741
but I'm already in anon. Sunny will free us from our chains.

[Anonymous No.7679776]

In at 6.7, just excited to finally be back into the green haha.

[Anonymous No.7679938]

>>7679776
I got in with 50% of my stack at 5.6, rest at 7.2

[Anonymous No.7679953]

Someone post the paragraph showing how this coin is a scam. Deluded plebbit bagholders

[Anonymous No.7680025]

>>7679953
You know that’s a joke right

We were just posting it to pass time until this started going up again

[Anonymous No.7680050]

>>7679953
Yeah man, Sunny fucks hookers in back alleyways and clotheslines reporters during official conferences.

[Anonymous No.7680057]

2k VEN reporting in. Will I make it?

[Anonymous No.7680075]

>>7679953
I got pic related for the 'airdrop'.

Please are so deluded....

[Anonymous No.7680090]

All in at 29 cents. We have a bright future

[Anonymous No.7680107]

All in at $1.87.

Still fucking amazed how this has less 4chan exposure than antshares did. Although also equally as surprised a scam coin like link is the new 4chan baby, those fucking pools deluded everyone.

[Anonymous No.7680111]

>>7680075
*People*
sry for reddit spacin kek will forgive me

[Anonymous No.7680161]

Big VeChain fan here but temper your expectations. This will takes decades to reach $100. Ethereum, BTC and Tron all shot up 25+ due to intense speculation. With VeChain everything is realistic and priced in. VeChain mass adoption will take years to come to fruition, and nobody is going to be launching ICO's anytime soon. I expect Vechain to be around 2-4 billion market cap for the rest of the year.

[Anonymous No.7680177]

all in since the crash

[Anonymous No.7680215]

>>7680161
not a chance it stays that low. you should just focus on learning how to tie your shoelaces.

[Anonymous No.7680266]

>>7679953
Sunny is too busy fondling people in an elevator

[Anonymous No.7680284]

>>7680161
hahahah. With a crypto market expected to be 2-3 tril?

[Anonymous No.7680290]

Already in at 4$, didnt sell at 9$. Now we 5.50$.

[Anonymous No.7680297]

Bought a strength node at 2. So comfy. Jump on the Thor train you broke cunts and get comfy.

[Anonymous No.7680391]

I am the number 1 hater of vechain, but my VERY conservative estimation is $200 EOY

[Anonymous No.7680452]

>>7680161
Kys

[Anonymous No.7680521]

Last chance was Dec 7-possibly 17th. The fuck OP talking bout?

[Anonymous No.7680534]

>>7680297
Strength node bros, bought in at 2.90.
What do you think the price of Thor will be? I think it's going to have to be worth cents for it to be commercially useable. But that also depends on how much one Thor can actually achieve. If it costs one Thor to scan a chip, it's got to be cheap. But if it costs one Thor to scan thousands of chips, then it can be worth more. And as far as I know they haven't said what one Thor will actually be able to accomplish.

[Anonymous No.7680538]

went all in yesterday. was totally drunk and couldnt remember. i should drink regularly

[Anonymous No.7680568]

have you heard of . walben coine

[Anonymous No.7681453]

>>7680534

Not a clue. Whatever it is I just plan on stacking it. I plan on holding for years. That is unless something unexpected happens, Vet hits 1000 and then I just cash out and retire.

[Anonymous No.7681511]

>>7681453
If VET hits 1000 I can't retire but I can sure as hell start a business, put the rest into something else and retire sooner.

[Anonymous No.7681533]

Can we get some more FUD in here? It is good to have something to laugh at on our way to the top.

[Anonymous No.7681547]

>>7680391
I own vechain but come on now, it's possible but defo not conservative.
Part of me doesn't believe it can reach those levels because I'd be rich at 21 and god knows I don't deserve it

[Anonymous No.7681618]

>>7681511
Dude. There’s a 870million supply.
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.7681657]

>>7680521
Last chance was Feb 5th when it was $3 again. It will never be that low again.

[Anonymous No.7681750]

>>7681618

Half of that will be locked in nodes.

[Anonymous No.7681751]

>yfw baught in cheap and are super comfy now, whilest others spread pink wojaks

[Anonymous No.7681752]

>>7681618
Dude. The vast majority of VET will be locked up in nodes generating Thor, taking them out of the circulating supply. Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.7681786]

>>7681657
LOL I'm all for the FOMO, but even /biz was shilling VEN <1 USD.

But feel free to start the rockets!

[Anonymous No.7681886]

>>7681786
Technically biz shill everything at some point. They also shilled wtc and tron. Look how that worked out.
>>7681752
You expect autists that didn’t buy ven when it was cheaper and sit here fudding against the number coin of 2018 to understand this?

[Anonymous No.7681918]

>>7681750
That didn’t stop dash from dropping over 50% LOL. next.

[Anonymous No.7681934]

>>7679741
>buying at the top

BTC will correct back to 9k over the next few hours. You've been warned.

[Anonymous No.7681971]

>>7681752
They will still be a part of the total supply you jack Ass.
Plus like I said, that theory didn’t stop dash from dropping over 50% huh faggot.

[Anonymous No.7681988]

>>7681886
God I feel sad about people who bought WTC. What a terrible decision.

If you can prove me you have a substantial holding of WTC post your ethereum address and I will send 0.05 ETH.

[Anonymous No.7681996]

>>7680057
If 300k eoy is making it.

[Anonymous No.7682088]

>>7681886
That was the whole point. The only thing project I've seen /biz shill early that turned out to be solid (if you bothered to read up on it) was VEN. Pretty funny, because I hadn't seen it anywhere else. SO /biz didn't soy for once.

With that in mind, anything above 1 USD was late. That said, FOMO the shit out of VEN on reddit and anywhere else you can!

[Anonymous No.7682114]

>>7681988
Wtc is a far better project than ven, it’s easy to see this unless you’re a low IQ brainlet driven purely by emotion.

[Anonymous No.7682153]

>>7682114
Listen dude, I'm not making fun of you guys. I am genuinely sympathetic. When we've made it I'll share some of my profits with WTC holders. We're all in this together and unfortunately this time you made a terrible mistake...

[Anonymous No.7682171]

I sold yesterday to buy LTC.
LTC dropped and now VEN moons?

GTFO

[Anonymous No.7682213]

>>7682153
Unfortunately for you, wtc releases their mainnet and masternodes before ven.
Also, I have heard that ven’s blockchain isn’t even scalable. Not that I’d expect you brainlets to understand that.

[Anonymous No.7682226]

>>7681918

Salty walty doesn't understand supply and demand. Nothing was going to save Dash. To even compare Vet to Dash just shines a spotlight on your idiocy. Die poor, waltcuck.

[Anonymous No.7682229]

>>7682171
Whoa you're saying LITECOIN dropped and didn't keep mooning despite the whole moon ocurring because of a scam fork? Who'd have thunk!?

[Anonymous No.7682239]

I sold at 0.00594 ETH because I wanted to buy back in lower, but right after that it started going up and now it's at .00628. :(

I don't want to buy back at a loss, /biz/. :(

[Anonymous No.7682266]

>>7682213
The essential difference between Vechain and Walton is the layer at which the blockchain is implemented. Vechain has patents on the txID-reading RFID chips with memory, which allows the blockchain to be implemented in the foundational level through the RFIDs. They are world leaders in chip technology, and make their own chips. Walton does not make their own chips. They outsource the hardware, and have the hardware made compatible with their blockchain via API. So their blockchain is implemented several layers up in the application layer, through business-centralized control. So, Walton is inherently less decentralized and less secure.

This is the essential difference, and it's not a deal-breaker for Walton, but it is a fact, and it does matter. Vechain is somewhat ironically better at authentication than Walton for this reason, despite Walton's original main use-case as an anti-counterfeiting product (they've since expanded their use-case into cold logistics and other areas).

But there are other advantages to making your own chips. Walton is using someone else's hardware and then repurposing it for their blockchain. Vechain has built the chip from the ground up to be compatible with the blockchain and improved the standard chip to be much more advanced, with encryption, fine minute movement detection, anti-collision logic to prevent skipping, low voltage technology so the chips can last more than 20 years, and other advancements over standard chips. Making their own chips also makes them cheaper. Standard RFIDs are 15 to 20 cents. Vechain's are less than 5.

[Anonymous No.7682311]

>>7682266
Literally none of that is true and you’ve just switched the names of Walton and Vechain around.
I’d expect nothing less from vencucks.

[Anonymous No.7682325]

>>7682239
Thanks for braking downward trend.

[Anonymous No.7682404]

>>7682266
Holy shit this is big. Seriously considering dumping wtc for ven

[Anonymous No.7682580]

>>7682311

[Anonymous No.7682654]

>>7682239
Same here... first time in weeks I decide to daytrade... then this happens. WTF>

[Anonymous No.7682658]

>>7682088
I mean you could buy ven now and make money so it isn’t too late... it’s getting too late to be a ven millionaire perhaps but if you can make 2x-10x gains, was it really that late? I’d say no. I bought at a little over $1 and I’m pretty satisfied right now

[Anonymous No.7682686]

The essential difference between Vechain and Walton is the layer at which the blockchain is implemented. Walton has patents on the txID-reading RFID chips with memory, which allows the blockchain to be implemented in the foundational level through the RFIDs. They are world leaders in chip technology, and make their own chips. Vechain does not make their own chips. They outsource the hardware, and have the hardware made compatible with their blockchain via API. So their blockchain is implemented several layers up in the application layer, through business-centralized control. So, Vechain is inherently less decentralized and less secure.

This is the essential difference, and it's not a deal-breaker for Vechain, but it is a fact, and it does matter. Walton is somewhat ironically better at authentication than Vechain for this reason, despite Vechain's original main use-case as an anti-counterfeiting product (they've since expanded their use-case into cold logistics and other areas).

But there are other advantages to making your own chips. Vechain is using someone else's hardware and then repurposing it for their blockchain. Walton has built the chip from the ground up to be compatible with the blockchain and improved the standard chip to be much more advanced, with encryption, fine minute movement detection, anti-collision logic to prevent skipping, low voltage technology so the chips can last more than 20 years, and other advancements over standard chips. Making their own chips also makes them cheaper. Standard RFIDs are 15 to 20 cents. Walton's are less than 5.

[Anonymous No.7682691]

>>7682654
You sold the bottom of a correction. Look at the one day chart.

[Anonymous No.7682779]

>>7682686
Nice one salty walty changing order of vechain and walton

[Anonymous No.7682787]

>>7682229
It's not a scam + Litepay.

[Anonymous No.7682807]

FOMOED IN AT 59400

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[Anonymous No.7682843]

>>7682779
It’s funny that you rely on outright lies to push your product.

[Anonymous No.7682864]

>>7682807

it'll get back there, and then drop a little after they release whatever news they have coming up

[Anonymous No.7682939]

>>7682843
Now you. Dont be jelly

[Anonymous No.7682957]

>>7682686
so WTC are the sole manufacturer of the chip and this somehow makes it more decentralized? Single point of failure right there. Also, how do walton chips write data to the blockchain if not via an API? Magic and wizardry?

[Anonymous No.7683179]

sold at the last high expecting a dip and got left behind

[Anonymous No.7683220]

>>7682939

[Anonymous No.7683257]

[Bearfag No.7683265]

>>7680161
agreed

[Anonymous No.7683326]

>>7683257
Kek

Provinciale =\= national. Big difference boi

[Anonymous No.7683371]

>>7683326
Difference is Walton can actually deliver.

[Anonymous No.7683402]

>>7682957
By patented tech, they are world leading in RFID and chip manufacturing.


If we're comparing hardware and implementation, Walton has the clear advantage here. As for software, we can't compare yet because we don't know about what technology VeChain has for their blockchain. We do however know that Walton is scalable, due to their dual-chain + child chain structure, which also gives companies the option of keeping proprietary and other information private on their child chain, while only broadcasting needed public information to the parent chains.

Lastly, you can compare partnerships and adoption. VeChain has some large partnerships and even national govt support to build a smart city as a pilot for quick expansion into larger scale implementation. I don't want to take anything away from that. It's impressive. Compared to other crypto projects, this should be a dream. Vechain should be much higher market cap due to these large partnerships.

But Walton is no slacker, and while many people seem to just universally think that vechain is far ahead in partnerships, I simply disagree. I won't say who has better partnerships, but I will elaborate on Walton's. They have multiple provincial govt contracts to build smart cities, smart oceans, and smart air purification solutions, and they have won multiple awards from the National govt of China for their tech. They've received govt subsidies for mass production of their RFIDs as well. They have many multi-billion dollar partnerships with many different supply chains that are using their product right now in a testing phase, and with as many companies using their product, they are actually China's most adopted blockchain currently

[Anonymous No.7683542]

instead of being a bunch of fucken retards arguing about whose dick is bigger buy both and be twice as comfy.

[Anonymous No.7683674]

>>7679741
PBC CAOLL IS VECHAIN IN 28 MINUTES ITS OFFICIAL. MY FRIEND BOUGHT NEWLETTER HINT WAS SENT IT WITH CHINESE NEW YEAR ESOTERIC INNUENDO.

[Anonymous No.7683724]

>>7683674
huge if big

[Anonymous No.7683790]

>>7682266
did you just switch vechain with walton lmao

[Anonymous No.7683818]

>>7683257
imagine being so desperate that you list "attended a trade show" as an accomplishment.

[Anonymous No.7683832]

>>7683402

[Anonymous No.7683901]

There is so little FUD for ven that pajeets have to try and shill garb like WTC to get in. Stay poor.

[Anonymous No.7684007]

>>7681618
It was a response to a "what-if" comment, never said it was realistic. Why is having basic reading comprehension so much to ask for?

[Anonymous No.7684013]

>>7683901
I own ven and wtc nodes. You are the poor retard im afraid..

[Anonymous No.7684067]

>>7683220
>PricewaterhouseCoopers
>DNV-GL
>Guggenheim
VS
>semen
>wewuzkangs furniture
>lalabobo
KEK

[Anonymous No.7684133]

>>7683901

Vechain does not have a whitepaper
No info on how to scale.
There is no Github activity.
Lied about Vitalik being advisor, deleted tweet after Vitalik called them out.
They mention on their website the release of a so-called Clou(n)d platform in Q4 2017. I started a Reddit post to ask what a clouNd platform is. Nobody could answer me. I tried to ask the Vechain devs in discord, nobody was able to contact me since they were working on their main net.
The coca cola kid is clearly a sign of insiders trading.
Low-quality partnerships brought as HUGE partnerships. For example the DNL GV partnership, there is clearly a partnership, but DNL GV gave an official press release that DNL GV cooperated with Deloitte labs to create blockchain, so I would like to know how exclusive this is. The PWC partnership is a partnership as a third-party provider, the partnership with Liaoning Academy of Agricultural Sciences is brought as something big, while Liaoning Academy of Agricultural Sciences only published one article in the whole of 2016-2017. In short: Any partnership has some way or another some flaws.
Some advisors of Vechain have still Lorem ipsum on their website.
Huge size Rfid tags compared to competitor.
Banned on reddit cryptocurrency for paid shilling.

And the list goes on and on and on.......

[Anonymous No.7684195]

can anyone give me a quick rundown of this sunny character? i heard he's real shady

[Anonymous No.7684377]

>>7684067
Waltonchain partners/clients
China Mobile IoT Alliance

Zhangzhou Branch of China Telecom Corporation Limited

"Smart Oceans" blockchain R&D project with Fujian Provincial Government

Air purification and smart monitoring project with Jinhu Provincial Government

Building "Blockchain Silicon Valley" with Taiwan Cloud and Fujian Provincial Government

Loci

Shenzhen Card Cube Smart Technology co., Ltd

NIDS Sensor Technology

Mobius

Kaltendin

Yunnan Yunshanghuaxia Trading co., Ltd.

JU&KE Creative Design

ArtCrypto

Fanfangxiang Culture & Media co., Ltd.

Shenzhen M&A Association of Listed Companies

Septwolves

Fuguiniao

SMEN

Kehua

Lipson Plastic

Xiangyu Group

TANYU

JoeOne

Guangdong Original Clothing Trading Center

Lalabobo

Direct delivery

Fujian Soonbox Logistics Park

KISA and Korean IoT research centre

Korea University engineering department

Sungkyun Technologies

NanKang City Furniture industry

Taiwan Cloud Association

Fuyao Glass Industry Group co., Ltd

Babbitt

Kediheng

Silictec

Sinolink Securites

Coinlink

Coinnest

SwftCoin

Jiangsu Zhongke Internet of Things Technology Venture Capital Co., Ltd.

Fujian ST Electronics co., Ltd.

Foshan Haichen Technology co., Ltd.

Xiamen Aerolite Technology co., Ltd.

[Anonymous No.7684382]

>>7684133
Do you want to keep posting all those words or do you want to make money bro.

Buy VEN low then sell VEN high.

[Anonymous No.7684767]

are we all dumping or holding b4 the 26th rebrand. whats the plays boys

[Anonymous No.7684802]

>>7684767
im probably selling day of and buying back in 1 - 2 days later after inevitable dip

[Anonymous No.7684864]

>>7679741
>One of the only coins that's been able to do +25% climbs in a 24 hour period
>People still don't think it's legit

We will be the ones laughing when this shit 100x.

[Anonymous No.7684877]

>>7684377
ching ching chang chung

[Anonymous No.7684914]

Just another 20% and i'll break even!

[Anonymous No.7685042]

Look at all this shitty salty walty fud. You losers will NEVER overtake our marketcap. Do you hear me you deluded little fucks? NEVER!

[Anonymous No.7685666]

>>7685042
stay poor

[Anonymous No.7685698]

>>7684864
Link did that yesterday..... You call that shitcoin legit?

[Anonymous No.7685754]

>>7684377
Double space next time so the list looks even bigger!

[Anonymous No.7685826]

>>7679741
Can somebody explain why VEN is outpacing BTC for a stupid supply chain Walton Modum cone?

[Anonymous No.7685858]

>>7685826
Bitcoin wannabe vechain coin

[Anonymous No.7685907]

>>7681618
How many coins did ripple have at 100m Mc i can’t remember, close?

[Anonymous No.7686069]

>>7679741
Ven entry 26 cents. Comfy you plebs

[Anonymous No.7686113]

could i become a millionaire if i buy 10000 ven?

[Anonymous No.7686254]

>>7686113
Yeah easily

[Anonymous No.7686280]

>>7686113
if you're prepared to hold it for a minimum of 1 year, yes.

[Anonymous No.7686300]

Jim Breyer literally said he doesn't own any VeChain lol he's just an advisor.

[Anonymous No.7686308]

When will this coin break $30, /biz/? By the end of the quarter?

[Anonymous No.7686354]

>>7686300
>he's just an advisor

[Anonymous No.7686380]

>>7686280
>>7686308
>>7686113
With an 870 million supply?


You’re a Brainlet.

>>7686300
He was paid to be an advisor at that. He doesn’t give a shit about ven.

[Anonymous No.7686418]

>>7686380
being this retarded.

[Anonymous No.7686455]

>>7684873

[Anonymous No.7687378]

>>7686380
just by some, then you would have to shitpost on biz about it. Stop being a nigger and just accept that you have to pay almost 6$ per unit.

[Anonymous No.7687698]

>>7679953
>he fell for the meme

[Anonymous No.7687734]

>>7687378
Got in neo back when it was ans at $6.
I probably have collected more in GAS than you hold ven.
Got in wtc at $3 , have node.
Don’t want to get into this shitcoin that has yet to prove it can actually produce anything other than promises.

[Anonymous No.7688360]

Wow, that is one salty walty!

[Anonymous No.7688454]

>>7684377
Li Te Ra Le Hu

[Anonymous No.7688637]

I attended a conference last month on a business trip. Things were going alright until we stopped for lunch. Over my ham sandwich I noticed a struggle going on at a neighboring table; a man I later learned to be Sunny Lu had tackled a small portly italian man and was forcefully tearing off his pants, screaming "UNDERWEAR ON THE BLOCKCHAIN". As he ripped off the mans briefs to a horrified crowd, he stepped over the crying man and climbed onto my table. Brandishing the garments label, he tried to reveal that they were a knock off of fruit of the loom (written there as "Froot of the lume"), but I think I was the only one who noticed, because he was mostly just muttering about being able to smell it, and the crowd had backed up against the wall by then. Security had to remove him, but he had already stepped on my sandwich. It was pretty scary. Sold my 100k stack

[Anonymous No.7688769]

>>7687734
You’re not fucking smart for fucking buy antshares at $6 you stupid cunt. Every other post on biz was ans before it broke $4. Fucking kys, my average buy in for ans was under $4 and I started not long before then.

[Anonymous No.7689688]

The fud on this coin reminds me of all the fud on NEO before it went 3-4x haha. cant wait for rebranding on the 26th. just went all-in

[Anonymous No.7690362]

>reminds me of antshares
>not done accumulating
>no actual discussion of what it does, only price targets
surely not a paid shill group