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Popular brokers for stock trading:
Robinhood
>commission free and no minimum to open
http://www.robinhood.com

> How is it free?
Robinhood earns revenue by collecting interest on cash/securities and fees from their Robinhood Gold service

> It's been X days, why isn't my account verified yet?
Not being approved in 3 days seems to be the new norm. Nevertheless, call/email their support if you've been waiting more than that.

> When is it coming to my country?
The only "plans" are on an Australian and Chinese beta. Neither of which has gained much traction.

Interactive Brokers
>$1 commission per 100 shares. $10k minimum to open, $3k if 25 or under. Lowest margin interest. Free API access
http://www.interactivebrokers.com

TD Ameritade
>$6.95 commission per trade. No minimum to open. Fantastic data/charting through their free ThinkorSwim service
http://www.tdameritrade.com

Degiro (Cheap broker for Europeans)
http://www.degiro.eu

Free in depth charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Movers:
http://www.nasdaq.com/extended-trading/premarket-mostactive.aspx

Earnings Report Calendar:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com/

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

>> No.7615438

NRZ starting the morning off with a lovely er

>> No.7615468

You fat lazy amerifucks are finally wake up

>> No.7615673

Morning early birds!

>>7615468
I wake up at 4 AM for work

>> No.7615681

Morning all

>> No.7615883
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It worked for me yesterday, post fat cats for fat gains

>> No.7615889 [DELETED] 

Morning! I had a dream that the deep state was going to attack Trump where he's strongest and that's the economy. The FED is going to raise rates every chance they get this year, this means we're going to see 10-yr treasury bonds pass that 3.5% level at some point. With all the boomers' 401k's holding the majority of the equities these fund managers are going to switch from equities into the bonds to protect these retirement accounts. This could cascade into equities taking some serious hits this year. Set some tight stop limits, long volatility every FED meeting. I'm not sure when we're going to see new all time high 27K dow jones industrial. Might have to really start looking at trading vehicles like energy and or metals.

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>>7615883
Sylvester was being shy last night.

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Afternoon, lads.
Germany moving sideways today.

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>>7616014
as is my favorite meme stock. Do I wait for their driling results, which either confirms the "fair valuation" of 30c or makes them tank to zero, or do I run with my 200something% now…
Decisions…decisions

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>>7615883

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>>7615883

>> No.7616108

And a question for the non-fulltime traders:
does it actually help your returns if you can spend more time researching/buying/selling stuff, or does it hurt your bottom line?
I'm mostly a long term investor, that's just occasionally hopping on some trends but mostly not really caring for his portfolio, but currently I am on a very long sick leave, so I'm laying and sitting at home with way too much time on my hands, but not really a motivation to get some "real work" done, and I think my investing starts to get emotional.

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>>7616009
Nice

>>7616053
Nice (2)

>>7616071
Pic related

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>>7616014
Not much happening here neither, my own investments are moving the exact same way.

>> No.7616192

>>7616160
Funny, how the KEK…err CAC and the DAX look like they are very correlated. anyone knows a good site where I can CSV files or something for them? I'd be very interested to get some Pearsson r-coefficients for those.

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Posting a smoking fat cat for Philip Morris gains. Hoping my calls get fatter

>> No.7616232

>>7616108
Keep what you're doing. If you're not full-time, you'll make stupid choices watching the tickers

>> No.7616279

Who else sold at peak yesterday? Ready to watch the market burn.

>> No.7616295
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Prepare the wojaks

>> No.7616300

>>7616279
ready for the tvix gains

>> No.7616308

>>7615292
>keep missing entry points into AMD
i wish this shit woyld crash to 10.50 so I could buy in. People are retarded buying in at 11.2.

>> No.7616320

>>7616308
It will soon enough

>> No.7616333

>>7616320
>namefag
Dammit now I know it wont.

>> No.7616357

>>7616333
AMD going to go higher.

There now you don't know wtf to do.

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>>7616213

>> No.7616359

>>7615438
There are more efficient ways to collect a dividend, but getting money from New Yorkers makes it extra satisfying.

>> No.7616393

Thanks to the name fag who tipped CATB yesterday.

>> No.7616410

>>7616357
Only works if its what a namefag actually believes and not contrarians.

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>>7616308
I remember keeping an eye on this stock a few years back around $2-$3. Was too chicken shit to to buy a few hundred shares.

It never stopped going up since then.

>> No.7616486

>>7616422
>never stopped going up
Dont look at the last year's history mate.

>> No.7616543

>>7616300
when do you guys usually enter on these volatility etfs? just right at the beginning and then hold all day and pray for red?

>> No.7616562

So lets say for shits and giggles the FED does a really dick move and raises interest rates 4 times this year. Can anybody tell me what the people managing all the Boomer's retirement accounts, who are holding all these equities this close to retirement, are going to do?

>> No.7616578

>>7616562
$JUMP

>> No.7616643

wheres that nigga who was gambling on SINA, APRN, UAA

all fuckin winners

>> No.7616684

>>7616578
I don't think you understood the question. Why would the fund managers jump? We've got to anticipate these events and move our shekels into positions that set us up for maximum profit potential.

>> No.7616705

>>7616684
Bum rush financials

>> No.7616720
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I PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MY

>> No.7616726

>>7616422
Somebody on /biz/ shilled it hard like 2 years ago at 3.50 and i bought in :)

>> No.7616742

>>7616705
So every FED meeting short the equities and long volatility. Play it sideways in between or trade something else like energy or metals.

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>>7616393

RREEEEEEEEEE

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Holy shit I'm a winner.

>> No.7616786

>>7616780
very lucky

>> No.7616812

Uh excuse me sweeties but the market is supposed to be going up.

>> No.7616821
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MARKET CRASH IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

>> No.7616837

>>7616821
>as soon as he posts this the rally starts

>> No.7616840

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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7616868

Who /longandstrong/ here?

>> No.7616869

>>7616837
I got too excited and jumped the gun

>> No.7616873

>>7615889
So buy bonds and long VIX ?

>> No.7616913

>>7616108
Don't watch the tickers everday, it is useless for LT investors.

Researching companies before buying their stocks is good. It gives you a price target and won't FUD everytime it drops a few %

>> No.7616924

>holding stocks right now
The absolute state of /biz/

You're gonna go -60% soon

>> No.7616926

>>7616873
>Buying bonds here
>Fighting the trend
>Fighting the Fed
>buying the bags of liquidated institutitons

MADMAN
A
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M
A
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>> No.7616936

>>7616160
How is your 30% "flat tax" is doing you frog fag

>> No.7616942

>>7616924
Stocks are more volatile than crypto right now. More opportunity for profit.

>> No.7616946

>>7616756
wowow good thing i couldnt short, its up another 20% since this

>> No.7616953

Thank god, this bear trap reminded me that I had a beer hibernating in the freezer. I might have left it there too long.

>> No.7616966

>>7616942
If you're a trader yes

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The gains today will be astronomical

Book it boys, it's a bet.

>> No.7617000

>>7616926
If boomers' investment slaves get out of equities because of interest rate hikes, won't their money go to bonds instead ?

>> No.7617017

>>7617000
>Getting out of equities because of interest rate hikes and term premium expansion because of inflation
>Put it in bonds

Do you even understand how the price of bonds works?

>> No.7617050

>missed the ALN dip again
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.7617069

>>7616936
0% tax thanks to my investment plan.

>> No.7617084

>Bullcucks

>> No.7617108

>>7616393

Glad it worked out for you

>> No.7617110

>>7617017
Yes I know
But I also know that there is speculation whether the interest rate hikes will be enough to fight inflation

>>7617069
Oh no you le didn't
You will always pay taxes at the end to subsidize niggers and mudslimes (17.2%)

>> No.7617126

Fucking AMRS looks like it's going to fly again.

Short percentage is maxed out, and the TA is moving into serious territory. And isn't the ER in a few weeks.

>> No.7617131

>>7617126
im not fucking falling for it again

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Give me the DANKEST memes

>> No.7617162

>>7617110
>You will always pay taxes at the end to subsidize niggers and mudslimes
Not if I use the plan to start my own business. Got my shit planned out, don't worry.

>> No.7617178

W-why isn't it doing anything.

>> No.7617203

>>7617162
Good good

Don't get cucked by your (((jewified))) government

I am a bit mad to invest overseas - so profiting from the work of people living less shitty countries - and see my work and my payoff after risks being stolen by those fuckers

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It's the limp dick formation

>> No.7617219

>Bullcucks actually thought we were gonna have permabull market

Lol, get fucked bitches. Hope your portfolio tanks

>> No.7617231

>>7617131
Did you some fucking how lose money on amrs recently?
How in God's name did you manage to do that.

You literally have to just buy and hold, easiest stock in the game

>> No.7617251

>>7617219
I think I found a new fool proof strategy :
Buy VIX on a greenday and sell it on a red day

>> No.7617280

>>7617251
What about when you have 15 green days in a row?

>> No.7617286

>>7617203
The tax I'd have to pay to cash out directly my invest would have gone to the retirement fund, and I don't want to feed boomers.

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>>7615883
No-stock cryptofag but hopefully this fat fuck will bless all our gains

>> No.7617363

Is the market going to crash or do we have another 12-24 months left?

>> No.7617389

>>7617363
I dunno lol

>> No.7617395

>>7617363
You see that Chad graph that goes optimism, new paradigm? Well the market is going to go like that except down for the next 10 months.

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>>7617363
>>7617325


It all depends, can you keep rolling sixes?

>> No.7617427

>>7617280
You double down and you wait for the 16th day of course

>> No.7617431

Dear OP

Interactive Brokers is $1 per 200 shares, but the minimum is $1.

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7617455

A question for the pros: how much should I care about the earnings of a company I want to invest in and/or their P/E ratio?

Some gurus say P/E is everything while others seem to say it is more important to research companies thoroughly and not just go on their "obvious" numbers. Thoughts?

>> No.7617477

>>7617455
all that fundamental shit is useless

just use TA on the charts

>> No.7617485

>>7617431
>Cuck not looking for real action complaining about IB's minimums

If you are looking to make money stick with IB if you are looking for a side game use a chumpchange broker.

>> No.7617496

>>7617363
Since you ask, I non-ironically think than markets will crash 50% from ATH in less than 6 months. But you are dumb if you believe anyone in this place.

>> No.7617502

>>7617477
But I'm not into day trading anon...

>> No.7617555

>>7617502
Everything I learned was during quantitative easing faggotry. You're going to have to find some one that was in this game before me.

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BEAR MARKET AHHH

>> No.7617660

>>7617455
There are companies with great numbers that are going down.
There are companies with shit numbers that are exploding.
But eventually the numbers have to match the price. but that can be several years after hype (or anti hype) dies down.

that's why the stock market is so great. all the great performers are ticking time bombs, just waiting to drop 7% in a day and wipe out 3 months of profits.

>> No.7617673

>>7617455
Researching a company means knowing and understanding their business and how they do it.

Next, you try to forecast and imagine what their business will be like in the next few years and if theu have the potential to improve it (CEO's personality, financial health etc)

Once you have a number in your mind, you compate it to the one of the market : is it being too optimistic ? too pessimistic ? Am I wrong in my forecast ? am I right ? etc

My most recent example is TTWO. They have been on a tear since July 2017 and have calmed down since their last earning report.

To justify their current market cap, I find they have to achieve +20% revenue growth while maintaining margins for the next 5 years... am I right ? if true, is it sustainable ? am I wrong ? what am I missing ? etc

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Strongest candle since yesterday afternoon.

>> No.7617715

>>7617455
>>7617660
Get a link from someone in xaviers school, they have different types of value investors, they'll teach you everything you need.

>> No.7617720

>>7616643
I was in UAA and APRN. Next is GRPN.

>> No.7617773

>accidentally buy a call instead of a put on SPY
>lose 4k in an instant
Fuck, lesson learned

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Market crash and volatility will come but only if you reply to this post with "RISE AND SHINE, MR. BEAR"

>> No.7617826

JUST CRASH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.7617829

>>7617806
Fuck off bear I want to make money without buying weird derivatives

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>>7617806
Shutup loser I'm long $530k of SPX. Fuck you and fuck Mr. Bear.

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>>7617806
RISE AND SHINE, MR BEAR

Also, daily reminder of the state of /smg/

>> No.7617857

>>7617806
The market is going to trade volitile flat for the rest of the year. It's not time for a full on bear market yet. I don't understand people who only play one side.

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>>7617660
Yeah, that's why I was wondering. Some companies I consider to be stalwarts are suddenly dropping crazy for no apparent reason while others are just rising and rising. Or perhaps there is something I don't know, I can never be sure...

>>7617673
I'm still very new to this so I still have to take in all this, but thanks for the insight. There is still much to learn.

>>7617715
Thanks for the tip senpai, I will look into it.

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>>7617806
RISE AND SHINE, MR. BEAR!!!

>> No.7617892

>>7617862
>Yeah, that's why I was wondering. Some companies I consider to be stalwarts are suddenly dropping crazy for no apparent reason while others are just rising and rising. Or perhaps there is something I don't know, I can never be sure...
Movements on the markets these days are near purely monetary.

>> No.7617898

>>7617857
There's a long-term bias to the stock market going up unless you can accurately predict corrections and crashes then being beta-hedged or net-long only makes perfect sense.

>> No.7617923

>>7616422
It was my first ever buy when I had no idea what I was doing. 200 shares at 1.84. Sold at 14.

>> No.7617936

AQMS in a channel only real play atm

buy at 2.75 sell at 3

or

buy at break of 3

>> No.7617980

>>7617806
RISE AND SHINE, MR. BEAR

>> No.7618108

>>7617806
It's not even spring yet you faggot. Why are you trying to wake the bear in the middle of winter? She and her cubs are going to starve!

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>>7617980
>>7617866
>>7617835
>>7617806
Front-line winner! Pay the line! Take the don'ts!

Sorry, Mr. Bear; better luck!

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>>7617806
RISE AND SHINE, MR. BEAR

>> No.7618296

Bearfags have been claiming the market is tanking everyday for 8 years and have never been right. They obviously don't even play the market and are just unemployed leftypol fags.

>> No.7618318

>>7618296
what about when they said it 9 years ago though

>> No.7618336

>>7618296
Jokes on you : I read Zero Hedge

>> No.7618337

>>7618318

bullfags on suicidewatch

>> No.7618348

>>7618318
A broken clock is right twice a day.

>> No.7618381

>>7618348
All it takes is that one time for you to go into suicide watch.

>> No.7618399

>>7618381
Meanwhile we make money while you guys sit on the sideline all day betting against the carry trade ALL THE TIME.

>> No.7618421

>>7618381
That's why you diversify. There will never be a suicide watch.

>> No.7618509

>>7618421
famous last words

>> No.7618544

New ATH in less than a month bearfags will be on suicide watch begging for the next correction

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>>7618421
>Diversifying

>> No.7618583

>>7618544
Bears never go on suicide watch because they never invest in anything. They just shitpost on smg threads.

>> No.7618600

>>7618583
They surely must sometimes ponder how much money they would have if they went the other way.

>> No.7618615

Anybody have that retarded wojak picture where his brain is buying high and selling low?

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>7618615

>> No.7618659
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>>7617806
RISE AND SHINE, MR. BEAR

>> No.7618663

Just saw Bunkerbro in another thread
Goes to show that if you really put your mind to it, one day you too could mine cryptocurrency in a cave in the Scandinavian wilderness.

>> No.7618664

>>7618643
Cheers

>> No.7618677

BEAR BEAR BEAR

>>7618583
I sold all stocks close to the ATH. I'm just waiting to buy back in.
Bought in Friday and sold yesterday but I hate doing that. I want the correction to be over so I can stop worrying about daily trades and go back to my wage slave job in peace.

>> No.7618769

>>7618677
Nothing wrong with wanting the market to dip so you can buy back in, but calling it a bear rally is just senseless.

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is BGFV dun gots to teh mid-tweens yets?

>> No.7618808

>>7618421
Yeah, cause everyone who diversified in 2008 did just fine. Exactly what sector made it through that shit unharmed? Precious metals?

>> No.7618842

>>7618769
It's just in good fun. Anyone with half a brain knows the economy is good enough that the DOW probably won't dip below 22k.

It'd be great if it did though and it's fun to dream.

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>>7618802
Slow and steady wins the race.

>> No.7618925

>>7618808
Sure you can't prevent yourself from losing money if an all out recession happens, but you can minimize risk. I don't know why people are convinced a recession is just around the corner.

>> No.7618985

>>7618925
Honestly me either, all the fundamentals of a strong economy are there. An ETF bubble isn't anything like a real estate or dot com bubble anyways.

>> No.7618993

>>7618842
I have 2 halfs of a brain, and half wants to believe you and the other half is saying you have no idea what is going to happen when interest rates increase to levels we haven't seen in a long time.

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>>7615292
anyone else noticing something weird going on here? TVIX is a 2x leveraged ETN thats tied to the S&Ps VIX. normally, as the S&P rises, it plummets. however today it seems to be rising in spite of it. is this rally a fakeout? is it just a result of the market going sideways? im confus

pic related. could it be that this mild rally is disguising the fact that there is a tremendous amount of selling right now?

>> No.7619197

>>7618993
I would love for it to tank so I don't really care either way. It's inflated as fuck right now.

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I know a lot of people don't think so, but crypto and traditional equity markets are actually correlated. Notice how both Bitcoin and the S&P 500 rallied and crashed at around the same time. Cyrpto is just the "new" market. It front runs the "old" market. If you want to know where stocks are headed, just watch Bitcoin.

>> No.7619208

>>7618914
brick and mortar retail will rise again!

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>>7619186

>(you)

>> No.7619346

>>7618993
There is a recent interview of Ray Dalio explaining the logic behind an economy doing great, the rise in interest rate and inflation, and risk on equities.

btw, Dalio has accumulated a huge short positions on European equities right now

>> No.7619413

>>7617806
RISE AND SHINE, MR. BEAR

>> No.7619537

>>7619226
what is so triggering about my image? ive been watching how this stock reacts all week and i have yet to see it work like this. normally if S&P goes sideways or up, then TVIX goes down. the only thing that makes it move is panic selling, which is why i ask if you guys think that this small rally weve been having is actually hiding a ton of big money who are moving elsewhere

>> No.7619596

>>7619346
Ray Dalio is a piece of shit cult leader whose 'Pure Alpha uncorrelated alpha streams' portfolio was literally 90% correlated with being short the Euro in 2015.

>> No.7619614

>>7619596
meh, he's done better than us...

>> No.7619638

>>7619614
I worked at Bridgewater and the man is insane and suffers from Bill Gross syndrome. He was levered long bonds for 30 years and thinks he's a genius.

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>>7619638
>I worked at Bridgewater

>> No.7619701

>>7619638
Technically if he levered 30 year bonds in 88 he was a genius.

>> No.7619721

>>7619638
they let you browse /biz/ at work?

>> No.7619735

>>7619721
it's probably someone's full time job.

>> No.7619743

>>7619596
>>7619638
I am new to all this investor superstars thing but he seems way richer that me

So he must be doing something right

>> No.7619760

>>7619638
Dalio is a creepy pedo

>> No.7619777

>>7619735
how do I apply for this position

>> No.7619810

>>7619777
>Anon come to my office, I need you to explain this meme to me. What exactly is a "stinky linky"?

>> No.7619830

What’s the most painless way to kms?

>> No.7619867

>>7619830
Investing in CD's

>> No.7619891

>>7619830
You just like wait till your like old and frail and just let your heart stop beating after living a full life.

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>>7619810
>>7619777
I work for a multi billion dollar company.

oh yeah.. what do you do?

draw cartoons all day and post them with some text with no real meaning on a stupid image board all day.

Oh wow, like Disney?

Something like that

>> No.7619926

>>7617936
told yall niggas

easy money right here

watch AQMS for power hour

>> No.7619966

>>7619926
>RSI of 75
selloff incoming

>> No.7619979

>>7619903
If we’re going to get technical then I actually work for a multi trillion dollar international organization that’s been in business for well over a thousand years, but I’m only a maintenance man so...

>> No.7619991

>>7619966
your right

once it hit 3.19 it was smacked hard

>> No.7620000

How do all you stockfags feel knowing i turned 20k into a million dollars this year with crypto?

gg niggers

>> No.7620019

>>7620000
I feel bad for you, because you larp for a living.

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>>7619684
I had to redact a lot because I'm pretty sure these crazy fucks would still try to go after me for the NDA/noncompete.

>>7619721
I don't work there anymore

>>7619760
He admitted that he almost made his son kill himself because he's such a cunt.

>> No.7620049

>>7620000
only 50x? what a moron

>> No.7620057

>>7620000
do you know that most people that trade stocks also trade crypto??

>> No.7620115

>>7620000
wow your cool tell us more about how to make sweet gains

>> No.7620120

>>7620037
What was your daily experience like in BW ?

Also, do you think a 33yo neet has any chance of working in finance if he somehow manages to enroll intp an MBA program ?

>> No.7620132

>>7620000
I go fishing a lot. I don’t have to. I could buy the fish yes, but I just enjoy going. I enjoy fishing. Take from that what you will.

>> No.7620209

>>7620000
>a million dollars
you really have a million dollars in your bank account, after having paid your taxes and all that…
or do you just have
>a million dollars
in unrealized crypto profits?

Anyways:
Fuck off.

Back to topic:
assuming we are going into a recession/correction/whatever you wanna call it, wouldn't some vice stocks be a good idea for a well rounded portfolio? Alcohol, tobacco and such…
I know, there's an app… err ETF for that, but sadly, the vice ETF is not legal to trade in Germany.

>> No.7620217

>>7620000
nice get

>> No.7620235

>>7620120
BW is 50% a social experiment and when you realize they are fucking with people "to learn what people are like and how to build better management machines" you really want to burn the whole place down.

I literally fantasized about burning down the building and I was unmarketable because of the heavy noncompete agreement they make you sign and I literally felt like I was in a prison.

Most people there aren't even top-shelf yet they are completely brainwashed into believing they know secrets to life that only people who follow Ray Dalio could possibly possess.

They had a vol fund that did nothing but buy JPY rate vol for years and they lost a terrible amount of money. They couldn't be bothered to find anyone who actually understood options markets because that wouldn't fit into their worldview.

>> No.7620242

>>7620209
>jeff bezos isn't worth 110 billion because it's just numbers on a computer somewhere maaann

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>>7620019
>>7620049
>>7620057
>>7620115
>>7620132
>>7620209
>>7620217
lmao @ these salty boomers
stay poor

>> No.7620260

>>7620120
As for yourself, I don't know. I'm not the best person to get career advice from.

>> No.7620340

>>7620235
Oh man

That reminds me of my cousin who worked for Renault under the CEO Carlos Ghosn who is a complete psychopath

Do you have to have some kind of mental disorer in order to be great ?

>> No.7620346

>>7620258
you aren't the only one that made money on crypto you retarded faggot.

>>7620209
WM?

>> No.7620372

>>7620260
I am thinking that I might be too old for anyone willing to hire me after the program.

If it is a waste of time or money, I would rather continue shitposting on /smg/

>> No.7620377

>>7620340
Being a psychopath helps when you're part of a business which profits off of screwing over regular people.

>> No.7620397

what are we buying today /smg/?

I sold off my MU this morning at $42.50 when it was looking like it was just going to stagnate today and now I'm not holding anything again. Everything I was wanting to buy on a dip is going up today so I'm just sitting on my hands trying to deal with the FOMO

>> No.7620411

>>7620372
I'm depressed and I feel like I ruined my career at a young age, largely by joining Ray Dalio's fuccboi cult. Don't look to me for inspiration or encouragement. I'm a bitter, bitter man, and I'm not even 30.

>> No.7620427

>>7620397
>what are we buying today /smg/?
this:>>7616049

>> No.7620458

>>7620427
If I wanted to play roulette I'd go to the casino anon

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>>7620372
>If it is a waste of time or money, I would rather continue shitposting on /smg/

>> No.7620466

>>7620397
AUY is going to moon, still plenty of time to get in.

>> No.7620487

>>7620346
Already got some umicore for my recycling needs and might get me some more cobalt recycling memes like AMYZF

>> No.7620502

>>7620466
I'll keep my eye on it, looks like it'll pull back a little bit yet

>> No.7620519

>>7620372
As an aside, even the successful people I know in finance would rather be doing something else. It's essentially the final form of the gambling addiction. There's no real contentment there.

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>>7620458
B…b…but they have some real good geology!
Lithium in the middle of Europe and only 50km away from a huge automobile factory which is already going to build Jaguars new electric car!!!!!!!
So yeah, it's probably a bit better than roulette.

>> No.7620535

>>7620397
DRYS
NAK
GE
BGFV

>> No.7620561

>>7620411
Stay strong anon

Why don't you expatriate and go to other countries that have a strong financial industry ?

I am thinking of Singapore for example

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>>7620535
>BGFV

>> No.7620572

The chad FNGU and the virgin SPXL/TQQQ

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>>7620535
>DRYS
>NAK
>GE
>BGFV

>> No.7620585

>>7620397
anyone not holding at least a little AMRS at this point has no business on the market.

moved my position up to 14k

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>>7620534
Lithium mining is pretty awful for the environment, I can't imagine that they'll be profitable trying to mine lithium in Austria while trying to comply with all the environmental regulations and bullshit.

>> No.7620721

do we buy before 2700?

>> No.7620741

>>7620668
>I can't imagine that they'll be profitable trying to mine lithium in Austria while trying to comply with all the environmental regulations and bullshit.
Me neither, but i think it's worth trying. At least Austria does have some mining history and there's a mining focused university right around the corner, so it COULD work. I'll await their drilling results and then I'm going to reduce my postion.

>> No.7620774

>>7620411
It was video games and rx pills for me.

>> No.7620795

>>7620668
That's not a lithium mine. That's a gold mine called Marvel Loch in Australia.

>> No.7620824

>>7620585
26k gonna make it 27 by EOD

>> No.7620825

>>7620721
Volatility in volatility has continued to fall for the 3rd strait day. The market has stopped having a baby and is returning to business as usual. Just watch your calendar for fed announcements, and adjust hodlings accordingly. I am long SPY and short VIX.

>> No.7620848

>>7620668
>>7620795
Whatever it is it’s depressing

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>>7620795
Ah, you're right, I just pulled one from google images. Here's a picture of a lithium mine in Australia, they look pretty similar. The lithium refinement / purification process is also pretty nasty and leaves a lot of waste products behind that are a pain for a company to deal with.

>> No.7620888

Inflation report tomorrow. Anticipations?

>> No.7620910

>>7620668
I think this looks really pretty. I'm sure they're awful, what with all the waste chemicals but I like the aesthetics.

>> No.7620935

>>7620888
2.2-2.3 Got my steepener on.

>> No.7620952

Bear waking up lads?

>> No.7620956

>>7620825
thanks just bought spy @$264.4359

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>>7620795
However, all open pit mines kinda look the same. (pic related: Iron ore mining in Austria). My planned meme mine is supposed to be subsurface. The waste from them of course depends on the processing.

>> No.7620991

>>7620935
>steepener
what this

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>>7620952
nope

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>>7620862
You basically extract a lithium-rich salty brine from underground and then flood huge areas with the toxic sludge / liquid and let it evaporate for a couple of years then you scrape all the dried shit up with loaders and put them through some more purification processes until you can finally dissolve the shit into water again and use electrolysis to extract lithium ions. If you don't do it in a very arid area then you run the risk of rainfall washing contaminants away and getting into streams, rivers, lakes, etc. You also run the risk of polluting the underground water table as nasty shit leeches back into the ground.

>> No.7621059

>>7620991
Short 10y treasury notes long 2y treasury notes, duration-weighted

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boys

give me some grocery stocks to short

>> No.7621079

>>7621059
expecting higher interest rates?

>> No.7621111

>>7621074
I think this is a good idea but I dont like it emotionally. Getting a government issued nutrition box is such a bleary future.

>> No.7621112

>>7621074
Probably get whored out to amazon.

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>>7621058
That only works in salt flats though (so, south america, and you probably could try it in death valley or the dead sea).
Hard rock is very different. both the actual mining, and the processing of the minerals, like pic related.
But currently, most stuff is indeed done as you say, since this is much, much cheaper.

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>>7621079
Higher long-term relative to short,term which is a consequence of inflation driving up term premium.

>> No.7621136

>>7621111
it does have a soviet bread line feel to it

>> No.7621143

Does anyone use fidelity?

>> No.7621159

>>7621143
here

>> No.7621197

>>7621136
i thought that at first but then i choose to think he is just kicking the people who annoy you in the ass to get to work and stop buying jordans for their kids and parking in the handicap spots.

>> No.7621217

>>7621074
dat Trump trolling niggers

SHORT BUD TAP DEO

>> No.7621229

>lithium
Speaking of that, you guys think Goodenough's onto something here? Could really revitalize the tech industry if true.
https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/goodenough-introduces-new-battery-technology

>>7621111
True. But I guess it cut down on the people who trade stamps for liquor or drugs.

>> No.7621233

>>7621111
In general, welfare shouldn't be comfy. It should be filled with thistles and briars because you're using it as a temporary safety net to get back on your feet and back out into the game. If you're on welfare they should restrict your television usage to the News and internet to Jobsites from 8am to 6pm. Welfare is good. The Dole is evil.

>> No.7621268

>>7621111
Nah it is genius

You can't say he is not helping the poors

And in the same way, they have more control on how the funds are spend. You won't have niggers buying booze or KFC on EBT anymore. And besides, it gives them less reasons to go out and infest inner cities

>> No.7621299

>>7621143
Fidelity is for virgins and old people

>> No.7621310

>>7621124
I guess I'm confused. if you were expecting a higher long term interest rate, wouldn't you be long 10 year notes?

>> No.7621314

>>7621111
if you are on welfare you should get a cup of beans a day, just enough to keep you alive it should be a purposefully horrible experience

>> No.7621318

>>7621111
I think this will reduce costs and save our tax dollars for more important things like the nuclear triad and a great wall of America.

>> No.7621339

>>7620377
Those who lack empathy do succeed. Look at us, have any of you actually thought about the stocks that you buy in a moral sense? Ever invest in fracking? What about AAPL, Foxconn uses forced internships which are basically slavery during peak times and their regular employees don't do much better. In fact they added nets around the complex to stop people from jumping off the roof instead of giving them a better quality of life. Empathy is just another trait that brings us down.

>> No.7621340

>>7621229
Looks like a pretty big step forward in battery technology if all the claims are true and it can be manufactured in a cost-effective manner.

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>>7621233
t.

>> No.7621417

>>7621233
Exactly, no matter how much the democrats want to keep these people from being able to get in a position where they take care of themselves that's what these programs should be. Cut them all down to the bone.

>> No.7621450

>>7621310
oh I think I understand. current 10 year notes prices will go down because new 10 year notes will have higher interest rates. bonds are confusing man

>> No.7621461

>>7621310
price moves inversely to yield

>> No.7621462

>>7621112
This, who's getting the contract? I neeeeddd to know.

>> No.7621469

>>7621268
I used the Favor app (basically something like Uber eats where you order stuff through the app and a driver goes to the store / restaurant to buy it and delivers it to wherever you are) and had a driver cancel a delivery order and put in a request for another driver to complete it because the place I ordered food from didn't accept EBT cards... She was literally using her EBT card to buy fast food and groceries for other people and then getting reimbursed with money deposited directly into her bank account via the app for the money spent on the food plus delivery fees. I was pretty pissed off.

>> No.7621508

>>7621339
>Foxconn
>bad quality of life
Well, most of the workers come from bumfuck nowhere in China
They are way better off in Foxconn dormitories and near big tier-1 cities than in their shitty villages
Besides, if a place is hell, it is mainly because of the people living in them. I don't dare to imagine what already soulless, uneducated, dog and snake eating chinks do at night in their quarters.

>> No.7621538

>>7621469
Wow she managed to leverage her EBT benefits, most people just take $.50 on the dollar for them. Probably had 9 kids or something.

>> No.7621552

>>7621233
What's the point? Employers aren't going to create more openings just because some sap on the street is more motivated. All you'd end up doing is driving down wages as unemployed people become more desperate.

>> No.7621584

>>7621318
if Trump continues to crack down on immigrants and kicking them out, there won't be a need to spend money on a wall because mexicans wouldn't have an incentive to come to america in the first place.

>> No.7621596

>>7621552
You're not understanding how many people are abusing the system for gibs.

>> No.7621606

>>7621508
> he justifies it
Good anon, good. Find a way to be okay with it and profit. But don't lie to yourself, these people are in a prison. Their living costs are deducted from their pay, what's left of their pay typically goes back to their family living in bumfuck no where and women who don't abort their fetuses are routinely kicked out on the street with nothing left when it's done. Are you better off just because you have AC and an actual bed? Me I'd rather work in my families rice fields than do that, poor and free and all.

>> No.7621645

can we stop arguing about foodstamps?

rednecks gonna redneck and libtards gonna libtard.

let's all agree to disagree

>> No.7621647

>>7621538
Yeah, I mean I'd probably do something similar if I was in her shoes, I just think the government should have safeguards in place so that people can't abuse the system so easily. Hell, I've seen plenty of people buying groceries with EBT and splitting up their shopping carts into separate orders and getting 3 or 4 different receipts so they could go deliver the shit to friends / family and get paid cash.

>> No.7621682

>>7621645
well im still shorting kroger

>> No.7621709

>>7621606
Yeah I know, it is unfair.

Chinks are only responsible in creating their own hell hole (working conditions, family relationship, rules in society etc)

>> No.7621763

>>7621136
Yeah exactly. If you want people on welfare to suffer just give them less. If you're annoyed they're buying fast food, don't let ebt be used there. But for the love of humanity, let them go shopping and pick their own meals like a free person should. Don't force them to eat government slop.

>>7621606
I don't need to justify anything. It's the Chinese government who worked so hard to make it so attractive and cheap for Apple to build factories there. It's the Chinese government who devalied their currency to bring in manufacturers from all over the world. This is the future their government chose.

>> No.7621863

>>7621596
You're not understanding how the job market works.
Those people don't have the capital to start their own business, even if they have the intellect. Their choices are to work a job or steal. If there aren't enough jobs to go around, as is currently the case in the US, it's just a question of whom they rip off. I'd rather they rip off the government than try to mug me on the street. I'd have to pay to feed their ass in prison anyway.
When inflation kicks back in gear, great, decrease welfare benefits and force people back into the factories. But there's no sense in forcing them to go somewhere that doesn't exist right now.

>> No.7621868

>>7620340
Ghosn is a pretty well-adjusted individual compared to a lot of CEOs. Orange used to have a CEO actively pushing for suicides to slash employees related costs due to retarded socialist laws.

Ghosn is just midly paranoid.

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Should I sell at break even and cut out for a while or is the bear gone?

>> No.7621916

>>7621895
If you sell with a 30% loss, never reinvest again.

>> No.7621939

>>7621895
>-.3%
Buy some rope

>> No.7621944

>>7621916
Are you retarded my guy

>> No.7621962

>>7621944
Yes i believe I am, I read that as 30%, .3% is absolutely nothing to worry about.

>> No.7621979

Green dow lol

>> No.7622001

>>7621895
anon. do you feel dispair? i want to know if it's real or just a meme?

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IT WAS THE BEARS TURN

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>>7621895
>-0.3%

>> No.7622033

>>7622009
And tomorrow the bears will be out spewing the same shit as today.

>> No.7622039

>>7621763
>let them be free
Why? What benefit does that provide? They should want to get off welfare as fast as possible. Any freedom provides comfort, and comfort provides content.

>> No.7622071

>>7622039
freedom is inherently positive anon

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Theoretically, what would happen if Trump were to announce plans for enacting single payer healthcare? Completely theoretical.

>> No.7622088

why does the vix go up when the dow is hardly doing anything today

>> No.7622104

>>7622001
Despair? Not really. You want to know if what's real or just a meme? I kind of wish I sold when I was +8% but it's really not a big deal. This money I can afford to lose and I'm willing to wait on it. I just have a sneaking suspicion that the correction isn't over.

>> No.7622149

CUT MY CRASH INTO PIECES

>> No.7622150

>>7617455
P/E ratio is a very basic starting point for fundamental analysis. If you don't have infinite amounts of time to do stock research, I would use it as a filter to weed out the stocks I have no interest in. That being said P/E ratio doesn't mean a company is good. For example compare AOBC and RGR, AOBC has a better P/E ratio but they also have a questionable policy of making a shit ton of acquisitions and don't pay dividends. RGR pays a dividend and grows business organically. So you can't say just based off the P/E ratio that AOBC is actually a better value than RGR.

>> No.7622151

>>7619596
hahaha he is my former boss.

Bridgewater is not a cult, its perfectly logical, at actually makes more sense then normal business environment

>> No.7622156

>>7621868
>pushing to suicide to reduce the number of employees

FUCKING GENIUS

Also, I wouldn't feel bad for those who an heroed as one wouldn't imagine how many of these quasi-civil servants feel entitled and won't bear with any sort of discomfort

>> No.7622203

>>7622088
Vix is s+p, and it is dropping lad.

>> No.7622232

Do you think Brexit is priced into european equities or will it all go to shit once they separate?

>> No.7622241

>>7622151
wtf is happening
/smg/ is supposed to be full of neets, pedos and weaboos aiming at moon missions with meme penny stocks

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>>7621895
>that steep drop

Did you fall for the holding XIV long term meme?

>> No.7622282

>>7622076
Everything healthcare related would immediately tank because of uncertainty on how it would be implemented.

>> No.7622295

>>7622241
>full of neets, pedos and weaboos
Haha literally me but I have a job and don't watch pokemans

>> No.7622317

>>7622295
>he doenst watch pokemans

>> No.7622338 [DELETED] 

>>7622295
>haha im a neet pedo

kys yourself

>> No.7622347

>>7622241
i come here to drop advice and hang out, im in xaviers chat mostly.

>> No.7622420

>>7621299
Why?

>> No.7622475

>The only "plans" are on an Australian and Chinese beta. Neither of which has gained much traction.

Does it mean:

a) only Americans can use it
b) there are only American stocks in this app

Essentially I want to know if as a Polish guy living a Poland I can have any hopes of using this service.

>> No.7622477

B-BUT IT WAS THE BEAR'S TURN

>> No.7622495

>>7622475
You can not use Robinhood, you need another broker.

>> No.7622596

THE BULL IS BACK

>> No.7622610

>>7622151
Just because it seems rational doesn't mean it is rational for people to agree to be a part of that situation. Nor does it mean that it is actually rational. Ray says some pretty crazy and indefensible things, it's just that everyone kowtows to him so he's convinced they are perfectly sensible.

>> No.7622620

>>7622475
No, only Americans can use RH. Sorry anon. But there are many other great brokers!

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> THE BULL IS BACK

>> No.7622747

>>7622610
im listening.
what has he said that is crazy?

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>>7622634
Money losing bear detected

>> No.7622788

>>7622771
You'd be mad too if you were wrong every day for 8 years like them.

>> No.7622805

>>7622747
Shilling for China, yelling at people for doing research projects completely out of context like an autist, belittling research people and making the bar for having a valid opinion being as rich as he is, making everyone in the company watch videos about autistic arguments over the catering service

>> No.7622834

>>7622771
Red by EoD or I'll fly you out to my house and suck your dick.

>> No.7622839

DARE is on a discount due to dilution
Should swing back to 2$ this week

>> No.7622902

>no free RH like brokers
>all brokers charge shit loads of commission for US securities
>can't trade local stocks since every company is either tanking or trading sideways
>most don't even pay good divvy
>have to pay bank exchange rate differences
>have to pay capital gains tax on earnings

Fuck I hate being a Britbong so much. Kill me.

>> No.7622910

>>7622747
Openly questioning the worth of people you claim you're trying to motivate to sacrifice much of their lives for you, generally.

>> No.7622986

>>7622747
Telling people how important and valuable it is to think conceptually and critically then forcing compliance with his own foregone conclusions from 1982 because of his insurmountable believability points.

>> No.7622988

>>7622981
>>7622981
>>7622981
>>7622981

new thread before archive

>> No.7623005

>>7622902
London is the FOREX trading capitol of the world anon, just do that.

>> No.7623020

>>7622805
>>7622910
cant speak to the first part.

but "openly questioning the worth"
the employees have been taught to be completely up front and honest with eachother.
"You're messing this part up"
"you're not understanding this"
"you're failing here"
That environment was more productive and helped to cause more growth than anywhere ive ever been.

everyone has a believablilty score on certain issues due to their track record.

>> No.7623077

>>7622280
Literally just held VOO

>> No.7623655

>>7622902
>>all brokers charge shit loads of commission for US securities
>>can't trade local stocks since every company is either tanking or trading sideways
Is london really that shitty?
I'm a German and I can trade all kinds of internationtional shit via Frankfurt, Tradegate, L&S, Xetra, Stuttgart, Berlin and a few other, smaller, german exchanges, without having to pay out of my ass for ordering shit on NYSE or in London for that matter.
I have tons of Canadian Weed, ASX miners and chink shit in my memefolio, all bought at German exchanges.

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>>7616422
Tfw bought chad's IGC bags after they mooned for $1.16

>> No.7623708

>>7616643
It was me! Got really lucky desu

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>>7616720
Eyes... Its the only thing that slowly stops the ache

>> No.7624138

>>7616720
Damn nigga how big is your account?

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