/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.7558585]

Hi friends :)

Just letting you know to do buying of Bitcoin Cash soon. It is literally the real bitcoin. Very good coin that is ready to MOON !

Kindly be sure not to fall for the corecuck scams. They are lying , Bitcoin cash is the REAL bitcoin and will make many moons soon !

Regards,
R

[Anonymous No.7558619]

>>7558585
>R
etard

[Anonymous No.7558635]

>>7558585

fuck off pajeet noone wants your scamcoin

[Anonymous No.7558641]

>>7558585
nice arguments and sage & hide

[Anonymous No.7558655]

Bitcoin Cash is the retarded young brother.
Good in person but he'll never make it in life.

[Anonymous No.7558685]

>>7558585
great arguments, im sold!

[Anonymous No.7558726]

>>7558685
Stop, anon, I just CAN'T.

[Anonymous No.7558798]

Stop pumping bch just before the stock market crashes everything, you don't help bch at all.

[Anonymous No.7558802]

>>7558585
I agree my friend bitcoin cash is great. It is going moon. I love Roger Ver, I think he is Satoshi but just cant say so.

[Anonymous No.7559136]

>>7558802
sir i think Mr. Craig Wright is real SOtashi, he just cant say.

[Anonymous No.7559560]

>>7559136
Can confirm Craig is Satoshi I am the only person that seen Craig signed using the very first genesis block beside Gavin.

[Anonymous No.7559607]

>>7559560
The stupidity on this board... just wow

[Anonymous No.7559634]

>>7558585

[Anonymous No.7559658]

>>7558585
rick owns?

[Anonymous No.7559661]

>>7558585
roger ver confirmed

[Anonymous No.7559685]

>>7558585
Indeed very true Rashneed, indeed!

Big blocks do scale: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbD0kiTddEs

2nd layer shit is ok ////as a minor part of the network//// aka a channel between bittrex/binance/coinbase etc but not for every day use. Aka you use it for super high volume, persistant transactions but when the fucking blocks are full then EVERYONE is forced to use it. Its fucking RETARDED because its literally just the internet style connectinos as a second layer. You plan on running a lightning node? Cute, now whats it gonna connect to? You ahve to have a super fucking well connected node to actually reach the place you want to go. So what does that mean? You're gonna pay a fucking monthly fee the BlockstreamTM supernode service or ComcastTM supernode service or AT&T supernode service so they can reroute your payments with high channel liquidity and highly connect nodes. You really think this is the future? Wake the fuck up core cucks. You've been fucking hijacked and you're letting politics blind you like rabid dogs. Its honestly reminiscent of liberals in the 2016 election screaming muh racism muh bigotry muh nazis like headless sheep

Make no mistake, the true OG ancap and libertarians that were the early crypto adopters are all anti BTC core cuckoldry

[Anonymous No.7559737]

>>7559685
>>/biz/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=aka+a+channel+between+bittrex%2Fbinance%2Fcoinbase+etc+but+not+for+every+day+use.+Aka+you+use+it+for+super+high+volume%2C+persistant+transactions+but+when+the+fucking+blocks+are+full+then+EVERYONE+is+forced+to+

[Anonymous No.7559739]

>>7558585
OP stop posting, you're a massive faggot.
Bitcoin Cash however is awesome.

[Anonymous No.7559743]

>>7558585
Dump it hard

[Anonymous No.7559815]

Yes, Roger helps many people for the good

[Anonymous No.7559855]

>>7559815
Stop posting Ver, and saying Ver this Ver that, he didn't invent BCH and he isn't important to it other than advocating it on YT.

[Anonymous No.7559870]

>>7559737
Yup, and not a single valid argument was brought forth to counter this delicious pasta.

[Anonymous No.7559945]

>>7558585
>i changed 2 lines of code mommy that makes our shitcoin the real bitcoin!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>7559136
pajeet detected.

[Anonymous No.7559953]

>>7559685
i agree sir , bitcoin core is no more ! bitcoin cash is coin of future !

all early adopters in bitcoin cash ... why ? they know is best coin for PROSPER and MOON ... roger ver is GOOD man who leads big team to BIG MONEY ... many dumb mans say core is future but NOT TRUE

[Anonymous No.7560039]

>>7559945
>capable of scaling NOW as opposed to after LN completes which is uncertain
>All the major BTC companies have already signalled support for BCH (Coinbase, Bitpay, Bitmain, Blockchain.info)
>smart contracts coming in 2018 (OPcodes will be activated this May)
>32 MB blocks in May
>graphene blocks
>extension blocks

BCH innovation will slaughter most coins in existence

[Anonymous No.7560090]

>>7560039
wow never heard of this BCH thing. Sounds like a pretty good coin. Why is no one talking about this?

[Anonymous No.7560128]

>>7560039
agreed sir , those core cuckers do not know that bitcoin cash is have microsoft partnership in 2018

[Anonymous No.7560143]

>>7560039
>I WANT IT NOW MOMMY WAHHHHH
>wow amazing that companies holding billions of other people's money are giving those people their money and supporting the coin while they're at it
>bcash smart contracts are totally not vaporware, I promise
>32 mb blocks because 8mb blocks with 130 transactions in it weren't empty enough
>graphene blocks totally not vaporware
>extension blocks totally not vaporware
>BCH "innovation" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.7560162]

>>7560090
the jews are trying to hide this pasta from you anon:

btc merchant adoption is shrinking bch adoption is growing
there is not a single reason to cap blocks at 1mb (non mining nodes do nothing)
segwit destroys the mining nash equilibrium incentivising the collusion of miners to change the UTXO without owners signatures. You can only trust jihan and roger to not be doing this right now.
why introduce segwit before a blocksize increase when lightning network requires 133mb as specified in the lightning network whitepaper
why introduce segwit at all when it is not necessary for second layer solutions
lightning network will not be decentralized because to solve the routing problem is NP hard
why would anyone want lightning network when it is not a decentralised ledger? the whole point of bitcoin is to scale on chain as that is what makes decentralised uncensorable money which can free all the people in the world from the financial repression of central banks

[Anonymous No.7560173]

>>7560090
Hello sir. Our BCH pleases to have the most big blocks. Core tries to tell bad about the bitcoins but they have no facts.

[Anonymous No.7560196]

>>7560143
>>7560128
The arguments are flowing I see. Yet another Bcore BTFO thread. Its all so tiresome

[Anonymous No.7560226]

>>7560196
I am pro bitcoin cash friend :)

[Anonymous No.7560227]

>>7559855
What do you mean he didnt invent BCH, he is the main man behind it. Very charismatic I wouldnt have bought bch if it werent for him. This coin going to moon stay mad corecucks.

[Anonymous No.7560228]

- John McAfee here
- You wanna suck this 8 mb block?

[Anonymous No.7560239]

>>7558585
i honestly don't get it. do you all just like korean dick? that's the only thing that's going to happen with this coin. korean pnds that leave you slurping their semen.

just stick with the real bitcoin, you'll come out ahead.

[Anonymous No.7560256]

>>7560162
Hello Sir! I agree. Why have low size blocks? No reason. The real bitcoins can have many blocks. Even up to 32423232322MB blocks. Scaling is no problem my man.

[Anonymous No.7560267]

>>7560196
If smart contracts, graphene and extension blocks aren't vaporware, where can I follow the development of the code?

[Anonymous No.7560297]

>>7560227
Soyboys don't like based BCH chads because they are successful. Cultural marxists cant deal with people that are obviously superior to them in every way.

[Anonymous No.7560395]

>>7560297
>cririquing appearances
That isn't an argument.

[Anonymous No.7560439]

>>7558585
Bitcoin Crap is a chinese counterfeit.

[Anonymous No.7560480]

>>7560395
Look at this prime specimen creationist.
He will drive this paradigm shift!!!

[Anonymous No.7560499]

>>7560395

[Anonymous No.7560503]

>>7560395
Nice argument.

[Anonymous No.7560727]

>>7560297
I agree we are chads because we came into crypto just months ago and have already identified the best crypto. BCH is great for currency that you can actually spend, and that is why it will moon and everyone shud just hodl it and not spend any. We have the best memes to shill like Roger and merchant adoption. Other cryptocurrincies dont come close we will moon this year so hard. Corecuck kikes just shill biz so hard but they dont take the time to consider the greatness of bitcoincash. Buy buy buy dont spend just hodl it is like digital heroin.

[Anonymous No.7560756]

[Anonymous No.7560781]

>>7560297
>>7560480
>>7560499
No answer for this?-
>>7560267
No code to follow?

[Anonymous No.7560822]

>>7560297
ahh bra like totally so much better to have chad in charge of your software project rather than those nerd developers

[Anonymous No.7560831]

>>7560781
sir development is going on private repos , you will be sorry when coin is moon !

[Anonymous No.7560846]

>>7560727
argument density: 0

Try harder corecuck. I just bought myself some camwhores with BCH today and a VPN the other day.

[Anonymous No.7560869]

>>7560822
Chad CEOs tell virgin code-monkey what to do.
Know your place, NERDS

[Anonymous No.7560898]

>>7560846
>thinks people hate cashies because they care about bitcoin

[Anonymous No.7560905]

>>7560822
Who would you prefer on your coin team

Good looking man who talk smooth and convince merchants to adopt?

or

ugly looking man who scare women but can program?

choice is clear for smart people....

[Anonymous No.7560946]

>>7560297
Luke Jr. is a badass traditional catholic that has 7 white kids and lives in the woods. Roger and Craig are degenerates that spend their time trying to keep their loneliness away by fucking japanese hookers and snorting coke.
Luke is literally /ourguy/ unless you came here straight from plebbit (which you obviously did).

[Anonymous No.7560954]

[Anonymous No.7560994]

>>7560946
>7560946
Sir look jr is not good looking enough to run coin.... i only trust coin devlopers who look chad and alpha... this is only safe way to invest friend

[Anonymous No.7561021]

>>7560846
?????? Why though its going to moon! You will be like that one corecuck who bought pizza with a million corecuck bucks. At least wait until it flippens bitcoin next month. Those merchants will just dump it on an exchange and if enuff people do that it will never flippen. Just hodl.

[Anonymous No.7561025]

>>7560954


>>7560994
>lets admit BTC defs are subhuman betas. This will surely convince them

[Anonymous No.7561082]

>>7561025
Agreed... BTC core defs are sbuhumans...

Only trust good looking man with coin... never betas. This is sound investment strategy..

[Anonymous No.7561099]

>>7561021
>>7561021
I want to see my bitcoin cashes moon just hodl. Roger will make us millionaires.

[Anonymous No.7561116]

>>7561021
who is this

[Anonymous No.7561127]

>>7561082
youtu.be/QbvtAlmfYQI?t=2m14s


It's astonishing how people ITT will still defend Blockstream/Bitcoin Core even when they continue to stifle any innovation for Bitcoin. Counterparty (XCP) was ready to implement smart contract functionality and Blockstream did everything they can to block them for attaining this because XCP required on-chain scaling. Luke-jr even blacklisted Counterparty transactions in one of the previous Bitcoin Core releases. Vitalik Buterin was ready to develop smart contract functionality for Bitcoin but he saw how bad XCP was treated and instead opted to make his own altcoin - Ethereum. Yes, that same altcoin that now has the second largest marketcap and is slowly eclipsing Bitcoin was completely unncessary if Blockstream weren't a bunch of kikes and allowed for on-chain scaling.

Now Blockstream has done fuck all to make improvements to Bitcoin since 2013 yet the delusion among Blockstream fanboys stays strong with the supposed implementation of the Lightning Network. LN is vaporware and will never see mainstream adoption, because adoption is stifled by default thanks to the 1MB block size limit and low tp/s. It'll take decades to get a billion people on the Lightning Network. And what does LN boil down to? Essentially swapping IOUs that still need to be settled on-chain. With a 1MB block size limit. Oh, and your Bitcoins can get stolen too if your node loses connection for whatever reason.

Bitcoin could sit mighty on his throne with >90% market dominance if it weren't for Blockstream stifling innovation. As of today Bitcoin sits at a measly 35% market dominance.

[Anonymous No.7561153]

>>7561099
This... Rgoer take the real bitcoin to the moon ! Roger Ver is a very early bitcoin enthusiast and looks alpha... youd be IDIOT not to trust !

[Anonymous No.7561229]

>>7561025
love how this triggers cashies every time

[Anonymous No.7561244]

>>7561127
agreed. Bitcoin core devs only ad hominem like subhumans they are... look at this guy with big neckbeard !

not suitable to develop big coin.... everyone knows neckbeard = bad programmer.....

[Anonymous No.7561282]

>>7561153
>>7561082
>>7560994
>>7560905
>>7560831
>>7560226
>>7560128
>>7559953
>>7559136
>>7558585
mfw corecucks adapted the false flag shill method after they got BTFO in every cash thread for weeks. Too late faggots. Only arguments, which you dont have, can save BTC the slow expensive shitcoin.

[Anonymous No.7561307]

it wont moon until may when they upgrade their shit

[Anonymous No.7561365]

>>7561282
Why you quote me many times ??? I support bcash because its FUTURE of coins. I am on your side man...

[Anonymous No.7561378]

>>7561282
>>7561127
still no answer for this eh?
>>7560267
Just more pasta and lies from the cashcunts

[Anonymous No.7561382]

>>7561127
go back to your cuckshed on reddit faggot

[Anonymous No.7561431]

>>7561378
>>7561378
Development going on in private repos.... not github... only soyboys care about github

[Anonymous No.7561503]

>>7561431
RRRRRIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHTTT.

[Anonymous No.7561555]

>>7561378
DYOR
https://github.com/BitcoinUnlimited/BitcoinUnlimited
https://github.com/Bitcoin-ABC/bitcoin-abc

And a few more.
Bitcoin Cash, unlike core, does not rely on a single client implementation. Its decentralized peer to peer cash, sweetie.

[Anonymous No.7561593]

>>7560727
They don't care about privacy, like at all.

[Anonymous No.7561685]

>>7561593
https://cashshuffle.com/

try shuffling on BTC and get raped by fees lmao

[Anonymous No.7561800]

>>7561685
That's using a trusted 3rd party, some coins do it without a 3rd party

[Anonymous No.7561818]

>>7561555
Dude, you need to stop. I want Bitcoin Cash to succeed too, but when you post links to dead fucking repos it makes BCH look like a huge scam.

[Anonymous No.7561826]

>>7561555
What the hell is Bitcoin Core? A new fork?

[Anonymous No.7561827]

>>7561555
No cunt, where is the development of the smart contracts, graphene blocks, extension blocks, etc.
When you cunts claim LN is vaporware, I can link this -
https://github.com/lightningnetwork
where there is actual code you can review, actual working wallets for it, actual development of LN that you can follow.

Where is the code or anything about the bcash vaporware?? Where is the testing happening? WHO is working on it? Have they even started?

[Anonymous No.7561900]

>>7561827
> https://github.com/lightningnetwork
>actual development of LN that you can follow.
Shit's not going to be better than on-chain, people aren't going to use this 24/7 online nonsense. Also see >>7561647
You were scammed, /biz/rael.

[Anonymous No.7561945]

It's shit compare to Gen3 and 4 cryptocurrencies.

XRB shits all over BCash.

[Anonymous No.7561977]

>>7561900
P.S. you Bitcoiners are so fucking entitled, you cite a project which didn't accomplish almost anything yet like it MUST be some magic at work. No wonder everyone hates BTC "hodlers". When you'll have something to show for your precious coin will be more than vaporware, but currently it doesn't have anything.

[Anonymous No.7562054]

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[Anonymous No.7562070]

>>7561900
people are already using it lmfao wtf are you on about?
>you cite a project which didn't accomplish almost anything
its literally fucking working right now you retarded nigger, on both the testnet and mainnet
hahahahah

[Anonymous No.7562100]

>>7562054

[Anonymous No.7562113]

>>7561818
>last commits days ago
>dead

>>7561800
>trusted
the server in cashshuffle is trustless, it cant steal coins.

>>7561827
First step is reactivating the needed Opcodes, which they are doing: https://www.bitcoinabc.org/bitcoin-abc-medium-term-development

Heres a few words from bitcoinABC lead dev on the matter:
https://www.yours.org/content/creating-an-extensible-blockchain-protocol-46dc105c8cfd

Also of course this is all medium to long term. Why are you pretending LN is working ?
https://twitter.com/starkness/status/953434418948927488

LN has been in dev since fucking 2013 and isnt functional yet.

[Anonymous No.7562180]

bitcoin cash is going to be 50k eoy. screencap this

[Anonymous No.7562201]

>>7562070
> its literally fucking working right now you retarded nigger, on both the testnet and mainnet
I'm not going to refute, this is too ignorant.

[Anonymous No.7562300]

>>7562180
probably 200k my brother, I might take out a loan for some more.

[Anonymous No.7562382]

>>7558585
Kek fucking kys

[Anonymous No.7562529]

No, Roger and Craig have to hide their families cause Luke and his kind threaten to kill them if they dont stop.

[Anonymous No.7562550]

>>7562113
That's what you call vaporware. Zero code to look at. No development you can follow. ALL talk.

>LN has been in dev since fucking 2013 and isnt functional yet.
Cash cunts just can't stop lying, and they actually wonder why nobody likes their shitcoin. It's clearly functional you liar. Here, try it yourself http://dev.lightning.community/lapps/

As for the mainnet LN, sure the devs don't want it on the mainnet yet, but you can make it work on the mainnet.
The fact is it actually works. Whether it is ready for prime time or not is another question.

[Anonymous No.7562702]

>>7562550
Devs still losing money in it = NOT FUNCTIONAL
the CEO of the biggest LN developing company says so herself goddamn you are dense:
https://twitter.com/starkness/status/953434418948927488

>That's what you call vaporware. Zero code to look at. No development you can follow. ALL talk.
Laying the groundwork in the actual software in the repos posted ITT is development brainlet. And you can look at it.

[Anonymous No.7563011]

>>7562702
>calls actual code in development vaporware
>says writing down what you want to do someday in the future maybe if possible is "laying the groundwork and is development!!!", but not vaporware
Bcash smart contracts, graphene blocks, and extension blocks are the defition of vaporware... There is ZERO code for them. NONE. That shit is years out if it ever comes.

>oh fuck something went wrong during software development, that must mean its vaporware and doesn't work at all!!!
Oh fugg bro a few retards lost some real money for being stupid, lets abandon the whole thing it doesn't work, lets give up.
I guess that also means we can claim that it doesn't function at all, right?
Bugs =/= non-functional

[Anonymous No.7563297]

>>7563011
LN simply cant be trusted with real money yet. That means it is not functional for actual adoption yet. Thats a fact no matter how hard you shill it.
Also you just called people retarded for using LN in mainnet, I agree.

And nobody claims Bitcoin cash will have extension blocks and contracts tomorrow.

Thats the difference, corecucks have been shilling "LN is X months out" for literally years now. You would be tired of that like me if you weren't a newfag.

All BCH is promising short term is fast tx with small fees, 0-conf and on-chain scaling. All of those are verifyably working TODAY while the groundwork for more is being done as we speak with the hardfork this may.
Funny enough Core decided to have neither of those essential characteristics of a successful coin for an unknown amount of time until LN atually works AND gets adopted.

Its a nobrainer which coin gets adopted in actual e-commerce.

[Anonymous No.7563374]

someone help me understand what these patents are. I made a thread but no one cares
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160330034A1/en

[Anonymous No.7563611]

>real Bitcoin
CDY is the real Bitcoin

[Anonymous No.7563696]

bumping after core shills abandoned thread once again

[Anonymous No.7563806]

>>7563297
>LN simply cant be trusted with real money yet. That means it is not functional for actual adoption yet.
Nobody said it can or should be trusted yet. It's in development. You're calling it vaporware, I'm refuting that claim, and raise you the fact that bcash's shit is literally the definition of vaporware.

>he thinks bcash development won't be exactly the same if it ever even happens.
It's already started for bcash shit too.
>"oh we're going to do this, this, that yea it'll be great"
>when?
>oh, uh, someday maybe? after we write some stuff down and

The fact is LN is functioning now. Functioning exactly correctly? Nope, and nobody said it does yet.
You're saying it doesn't function at all, when it clearly does.
You and I could open a channel right now and send money to each other instantly right now on LN.
Yea, the "LN is 18 months out" meme got old fast, but that doesn't mean it isn't being worked on or will never come out. Some things shouldn't be rushed.

[Anonymous No.7563855]

>>7563696
lmao you cashcunts are something else...

[Anonymous No.7563956]

>>7563806
>You're saying it doesn't function at all, when it clearly does.
Im saying it cant be used with real money yet unless youre retarded. Thats the same as being NON FUNCTIONAL for real adoption.
It cant be adopted yet, simple fact. I didnt even call it vaporware by the way. It will work at some undefined point in the future but you know what? it will work even better on a chain where it costs 1 cent to open a channel LMAO

Therefore the usual corecuck answer to bitcoin cashes fast and cheap tx cannot be LN

>we have fast, cheap tx
>JUST USE LN BRO, but its "Functioning exactly correctly? Nope"

[Anonymous No.7564196]

>>7561800
>That's using a trusted 3rd party, some coins do it without a 3rd party
No its not, if only you mouthbreathers would do your research. Things like Bitcoin Mixers involve trusted 3rd parties because you give the mixers your coins. With these you always keep your coins.

[Anonymous No.7564223]

>>7558585
bcash is shitcoin

[Anonymous No.7564306]

>>7564223
I can't believe someone was so triggered as to make that image. Lol

[Anonymous No.7564339]

>>7558585
Long term bcash is like pumping your money under pressure into a sewer. Has the pre-Jeff-Berwick conference pump started yet? Don't fall for it and let Ver and his friends swill their ill gotten gains down the toilet.

[Anonymous No.7564344]

>>7564306
they were paid to make it

[Anonymous No.7564388]

>>7559855
When he started getting angry Ver called it "my project" on that interview when he gave the camera the finger.

[Anonymous No.7564393]

>>7564306
yes roger get triggered much

[Anonymous No.7564395]

>>7563956
quoted driectly from you-
>LN has been in dev since fucking 2013 and isnt functional yet.

hahaha you say in those exact words that it "isn't functional yet"
Non functional means IT DOESN'T FUNCTION AT ALL.
I prove that it clearly is functional, though admittedly with bugs.

You change now to "NON FUNCTIONAL for real adoption."
OK, fair enough, I agree, but the fact is it is functional.
The devs have also already said they will up the block size when needed you liar cashcunt.

>Im saying it cant be used with real money yet unless youre retarded.
Me to retard, don't you remember?

>I didnt even call it vaporware by the way.
quoted directly from you -
>LN is vaporware and will never see mainstream adoption
You fags lie so much you can't keep track

[Anonymous No.7564437]

>>7564395

i guess they didn't get the memo their chink overlord told them to stop shilling against LN, bcash would need to use it to scale as well.

[Anonymous No.7564461]

>>7564395
>Non functional means IT DOESN'T FUNCTION AT ALL.
>I prove that it clearly is functional, though admittedly with bugs.
If it is meant to send payments but sometimes fails and your money disappears it isn't functional enough yet to matter, friendo. That's like saying if I break my arm it is functional after two weeks because i can move slightly flex my forearm, even though if I try to use it naturally I will break it again.

[Anonymous No.7564495]

>>7564395
>NON FUNCTIONAL for real adoption.
EQUALS
>NON FUNCTIONAL

It will be FUNCTIONAL when its in a state where normies can use it (like they can with bitcoin cash today).

[Anonymous No.7564511]

>>7564437
>i guess they didn't get the memo their chink overlord told them to stop shilling against LN, bcash would need to use it to scale as well.
BCH doesn't use lightning to scale, it uses it to reduce fees between people with whom you transact regularly in order to lower fees. Its a method of lowering fees, the blockchain scales on its own. For example banks sometimes have millions of transactions per day, and high volume traders can have thousands. If they open lightning channels for these they can lower their fees tremendously. But because every version of lightning requires trust and counterparty risk these channels should only be opened with people you trust, unlike Bitcoin Segwit which requires these channels to even function.

[Anonymous No.7564580]

>>7564511

>blabber, debate me

nah just not using your shitcoin, peace

[Anonymous No.7564678]

>>7564580
> debate me
> hurr durr bcash is a scam because roger ver sold firecrackers and jihan wu is chinese

corecucks, the post

[Anonymous No.7564746]

[Anonymous No.7564829]

[Anonymous No.7564854]

Blockstream holds patents in sidechaining coins and various other 2nd layer methods/protocols.

[Anonymous No.7564925]

>>7564461
2 people out of hundreds potentially lost money on a bug, and apparently they will be able to get it back anyway.
It clearly is functioning, and you can see it function with your own eyes and use it yourself right now if you wanted to.

>>7564495
Again if you want to clarify it with "non functional for real adoption" then fine, nobody at all is arguing that it is ready for adoption, you lying fucking cashcunt.
Jesus fucking christ the point is LN isn't vaporware, while your bcash "innovation" is the definition of vaporware.

[Anonymous No.7565056]

>>7564925

>>7564461 already says it all mate.
This is a protocol for transferring money. Bugs that lose users money = not ready, non functional.

[Anonymous No.7565085]

>>7565056
haha k

[Anonymous No.7565170]

>>7564925
This is pointless but I"ll bite:
1. the LN promises extraordinary functionality, you can't have both have decentralization security and scalability. In reality it won't deliver more scalability than the blockchain, you can read in the LN whitepaper it caps around 100,000 users.
2. 'LN ready' coins at Blockstream's initiative (inc. Segwit), will join BTC in the pool of LN settlement tokens: From 21 million to 24 BILLION coins, all INDISTINGUISHABLE as 'LN store of value tokens'. Impact on price?..
3. The Lightning will completely eliminate the Blockchain. BTC's end game is to slowly transition from BTC to BTC 2.0 which will be PoS, without hard-forking, ever (that way Blockstream will have full control), such that the only thing that will remain the same is the ledger - users'll get their old coins just like in a fork except BTC will not have to fork. That's fucking brilliant on BS's side.
3. >>7561977

[Anonymous No.7565177]

>>7565085
>adopt it

[Anonymous No.7565232]

>>7564461
1. The LN was only meant to pump the price short term with LN news
2. long term it will be used by custodians who will do the actual handling of the tx's for them. Users will have accounts like in paypal but won't run the client with the LN.

[Anonymous No.7565403]

>>7560297
>be millionare
>Throw few thousand on a magical internet money, because why not
>become the biggest shill of it, people starts calling you a bitcoin jesus
>??
>Profit

seriously anon, if someone heard bitcoin back in 2009-2010 and never mined or bought at least few hundred $ worth are completely morons.

[Anonymous No.7565408]

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7dbeni/breaking_dr_craig_wright_bitcoin_cash_already_won/

Click the link in the title to jump to the exact minute he explains it. 1h 17 minutes and 5 seconds (1:17:05)

Watch Dr. Craig Wright explain that Bitcoin Cash will provide up to 50,000 transactions per second on Bitcoin Cash within a year.

He then hints at what's coming and says that the battle is already won by Bitcoin Cash, and most people do not realize it yet.

[Anonymous No.7565447]

>>7558585
are you really the Rakeesh Ver?

[Anonymous No.7565454]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jctc85X_PCI

[Anonymous No.7565462]

>>7565408
I don't care if he'll show 50Ktps, the guy lied about being SN.

[Anonymous No.7565483]

>>7558585
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
BCASH IS BITCOIN

[Anonymous No.7565494]

The better solution is already fully implemented. It's running now. It's complete and it's been proven publicly to work to 1GB blocks now. They are releasing findings on 320GB blocks using Graphene for fast block propagation shortly. We're talking millions of transactions per second for less than a 1/10th of a cent each.

My guess is that he worked out the consequences for DAA (smooth curved difficulty adjustments) and what will happen when other exchanges and partners start offering 'BCH' as the base currency for all the other altcoins.
It will be game over once we can trade other altcoins in base BCH, mining power shifts over, effective and powerful DAA, and BTC gets strangled with $100USD+ fees with a backlog of 1 million pending transactions that will not get cleared for WEEKS or months (if ever).

[Anonymous No.7565551]

>>7565232
>nightmareGoggles.jpg

[Anonymous No.7565582]

>>7565403
easy to say in hindsight
Ver thew millions at it when it was at dollars in value. Almost everybody laughed their ass of at that at the time.

[Anonymous No.7565647]

>>7565582
Did Ver also cry like a little baby as Richard Schuler did when the BTC price crashed?

[Anonymous No.7565709]

>>7565647
Heart is such a little cuck. Its weird though he gets why BTC is shit now but cant see that BCH is the answer.
I think he went long on margin on the "dip" to 12k or something.
The podcast seemed like it

[Anonymous No.7565858]

REMINDER

On august the 1. 2017 two bitcoin forks happened, one hard fork and one soft fork.

The soft fork added "replace by fee" which fucked up 0-conf transactions and segregated witness for scaling.

The hard fork increased the block size from 1 MB to 8 MB.

One of these forks radically changed the bitcoin described in the whitepaper written by satoshi nakamoto, the other stayed true to satoshi's vision.

Bitcoin legacy is the real fork because of radical changes to the protocol. They kept the name and ticker because they issued the change with a soft fork.

BItcoin cash is LITERALLY the REAL bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.7566067]

>>7565858

>27 posts by this ID

[Anonymous No.7566122]

>>7565858
The real redpill

[Anonymous No.7566356]

Bitcoin Cash Resources


http://derekmagill.com/bitcoin/

[Anonymous No.7566416]

>>7566067
28*

[Anonymous No.7566434]

>>7565709
> e gets why BTC is shit now but cant see that BCH is the answer.
It's actually quite simple. He hates bch because it has far less pump potential. It's not like bch will be used for 1000tps tomorrow, so it has nothing to use to pump the price with.
>I think he went long on margin on the "dip" to 12k or something.
Didn't he buy it when it was like $1? Why would he even trade it? That's so dumb.

[Anonymous No.7566607]

>>7566434
>Why would he even trade it? That's so dumb.
I dunno man but the podcast really sounds like he did that

I disagree on pump potential. Imagine how high BTC would have gone on this last pump if the mempool had stayed empty and the TX fast

[Anonymous No.7566622]

>>7564925
>2 people out of hundreds potentially lost money on a bug, and apparently they will be able to get it back anyway.
I'm looking for proof that they will get their funds back and can't find any. Post proof.

[Anonymous No.7566684]

>>7565403
>seriously anon, if someone heard bitcoin back in 2009-2010 and never mined or bought at least few hundred $ worth are completely morons.
Lol. The amount of shit you got for investing in it in even 2013 was ridiculous and this guy invested his millions into it. My relationship with my parents was forever changed when I told them I invested a lot in Bitcoin in 2013 and it almost shattered. This guy literally took the millions he painstakingly earned and invested in something no one had heard about, understood, and that everyone laughed about you for being a part of. They are doing the same thing with Bitcoin Cash now, really makes you think doesn't it.

[Anonymous No.7566748]

>>7566434
>It's not like bch will be used for 1000tps tomorrow, so it has nothing to use to pump the price with.
Bitcoin Cash hit it big at the iGaming conferences where they simply said you can build your internet gambling sites on top of Bitcoin Cash and have zero-confirmation transactions that are secure and relayed to your site in a few seconds at fees of less than 1 cent. Internet gambling will move the transaction count at first and that alone could get it to hundreds if not thousands of transactions per second this year. I'm not saying it will, but it could. Especially considering the gambling sites don't really have to do much since all the work is done by the BCH blockchain.

[Anonymous No.7566759]

>>7566684
I admit I had self-doubts after going all in but I see it as a long term investment. No one will use crap like IOTA and xrp in 3 years but bch is here to stay.

[Anonymous No.7566769]

>>7558585
This is clearly some chhinq

[Anonymous No.7566809]

>>7558585
very good suggestion if i can say this
do the needful and buy BCH = true bitcoins

[Anonymous No.7566853]

>>7566748
Most tx's in ETH isn't gambling, it's tokens. BCH missed that train, it could do it for cheap using colored coins.