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BLOCKSTREAM IS TURNING THE FRIGGEN CURRENCY GAY!

Watch: https://www.infowars.com/watch-alex-jones-show/

Listen: http://xml.nfowars.net/Alex.rss

Roger Ver will be on in 30 minutes.

>> No.7382547

core cucks on suicide watch

>> No.7382573

Lel dis gunna b gud

>> No.7382587
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>>7382175
here comes the dip to 3k

>> No.7382603

Cmon Roger we need a good relief pitcher to come in and clean house.

>> No.7382631

thank god atleast now we know its really a dead meme now


just sold 100k

>> No.7382641
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7382641

if this doesn't indicate to anyone here that BCH is fucking bullshit i dont know what will.

>> No.7382649

>>7382175
did i miss him yet?

>> No.7382673

>>7382175
alex jones started shilling bitcoin at 15k after talking shit about it for 7 years as le cia psyop

fuck that jewish shill

listen to rense

>> No.7382678

>>7382175
It got pushed to thursday

>> No.7382720

>this will make me seem reputable!

What an idiot

>> No.7382732

>>7382175
bumping for potential

My cash bags are getting HEAVY. The shittiest part about this crash is that fees (in USD) are lower so it isn't forcing people to consider other options atm.

>> No.7382739

>>7382641
Don't be such a simple minded liberal cuck. You people are literally the lowest IQ group on planet So narrow-minded and dumb.

>> No.7382780

>>7382641
Reminder that Trump did an interview with Alex during the campaign and he's the president now.

>> No.7382848

>>7382673
Stop fucking lying you stupid faggot. The humble water filter salesman was accepting bitcoin on his store since at least 2016 when btc was still only $700.

I know this because I bet bitcoin on Trump winning the election and told my friends I'd buy Super Male Vitality if Trump won.

>> No.7382850

>>7382175
Fuck so much for crypto if Alex the frogs are gaY Jones is promoting crypto

>> No.7382857

>>7382175
How is this fucking neonazi fanatism propaganda still not a banned link on 4chan?
Same for fucking breitbart.

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>>7382175
Nigga plz

>> No.7382981

hahaha

fucking bcash sjw coin

>> No.7382991

>>7382780
bingo

>> No.7383029

axpire fags will actually think he'll mention axpire
lul

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>>7382857
>neonazi
lmao I hate neonazis and alex jones is a fucking joke but you're so fucking ignorant that you're even more of one

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>>7382175
thanks for telling us about this OP

it's like a crossover episode of two TV shows I like

>> No.7383070

>>7382850
This is fantastic. Did you place a wager on Nitrogen also? If I remember correctly it was +500.

>> No.7383073

>>7382175

Even Normiebase is capitulating and supporting SegWit. Network effects will kick in and Bcash is finished. Good luck trying to short BTC and pump BCH in these conditions, you'll go broke in a day.

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>>7382175
Alex Jones is a prime time pure bred american retard.

>> No.7383110

>>7382175
Jesus christ alex jones is such a piece of shit

>> No.7383114

>>7382649
starts in 2 minutes

>>7382641
cuck

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>>7382857

>> No.7383127

>>7382848

>calls someone a faggot

>isnt already fully saturated in Super Male Vitality™

>> No.7383137

Rescheduled till Thursday I heard

>> No.7383139

>>7382175
big if true

>> No.7383154

>>7383073
also this,
with LN Bitcoin trash is totally useless.
keep trying trashies.

>> No.7383163

>>7382720
It's about the size of Alex's audience and their willingness to invest in Bitcoin Cash. This is a marketing play. And it just shows that you Segwit Soyboys are still a bunch of censoring blowhards who don't like free speech. If you don't like Alex, don't watch, but his audience is massive so this is a very smart marketing play.

>> No.7383162

>>7383110
lol and now they sell you dubious health pills hahaahhahahah

>> No.7383182

>>7382857
>How is this fucking neonazi fanatism propaganda still not a banned link on 4chan?
>Same for fucking breitbart.
The same reason faggot niggers like yourself aren't banned. Everyone gets a voice here, even dumbfucks like you.

>> No.7383186

>>7383110
cool story cuck

>> No.7383190

bcash is ruining the entire cryptocurrency scene. They FUD everything and in the end every crypto, including them, will be deeply fucked in the ass.

>> No.7383210

>>7383127
>he was legitimately a lying faggot
>implying I didn't buy to support InfoWars because their shilling for Trump which helped me win a fuck load of money

B-BUT IT W-WAS HER TURN!

>> No.7383219

>>7383137
rogers tweetfeed says today

>> No.7383226

>>7382547
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>>7383210
>>7383219
bcash

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>>7383226

>> No.7383244

>>7383190
Yes, because Blockstream has been SO great for merchant adoption.

>> No.7383276

>>7383186
nice edge m8
keep listening to this retard
you might actually end up as retarded as him

>> No.7383277

Any anons going to ring in with bcash trolls?>>7383226

>> No.7383292

>>7383226
btrash

>> No.7383304
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7383304

BUY AXPIRE
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>> No.7383357

Roger concentrating on the dysfunctional Segwit coin inaccurately calling itself Bitcoin are partially to blame for market dip. Get on the correct chain...Bitcoin BCH. The correct tech will be the one that survives this the strongest:

>> No.7383405

>>7382857
gud bait, I almost take you seriously.

>> No.7383417

>>7383242
LoL nice pic m8

>> No.7383462

>>7383417
thanks
tip me for sharing with some 0confirmation useable bcash

>> No.7383494

>>7383462
tip a stranger? rather kill myself fgt

>> No.7383501

>>7382175
Roger's a moron and Alex is too (though Alex is likeable enough in a demented way) but this could be awesome viewing desu.

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7383506

Who pays you, bcashes? If you tell me, I want to work with you. I need money, you know.

>> No.7383515

>>7383137
Source?

>> No.7383517

Roger Ver did anounce the move, but didn't see fit to tell us here first

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7vogv3/the_bitcoin_bch_interview_on_infowars_radio_has/

>> No.7383529

You can send bitcoin cash offline now with sms, pretty cool! Introducing into Africa now and SE asia now

>> No.7383552

>>7383506
>people couldn't possibly be shilling coins they already own
>sanic poster

checks out.

>> No.7383569

why isnt he on?

>> No.7383596

>>7383569
>why isnt he on?
alex jones wanted to hold a speech about the trump speech I guess

>> No.7383602

>>7383552
bcash is a special case and you know it very well.

>> No.7383606

>>7383357
lul
bitcoin = shitcoin, doesn't matter what fork

>> No.7383640

>>7383569
>>7383596
Apparently it was moved to thursday

>> No.7383644

>>7383569
see >>7383517

>> No.7383649

>/biz/ and infowars


my 2 favorite ways to pass the time at work combined into one meme


/comfy/ as fuk

>> No.7383711

>>7383602
proofs

>> No.7383714

Feck it's moved to thursday.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7vogv3/the_bitcoin_bch_interview_on_infowars_radio_has/

>> No.7383761

We should have daily alex jones threads, he is a great businessman.

>> No.7383773

>>7383711
Read this thread, go to their subreddit... It is all there, its clear as water they are all lunatics.
But you will keep asking for proofs and saying this is a "nice argument" because this is the default behaviour of bcash shills.

>> No.7383815

You guys do know this is a scamcoin right? The kind the US regulators were discussing how to stop. Simply calling itself Bitcoin is false disclosure aka fraud.

>> No.7383839

>>7383773
>people are arguing in favor of shit they hold

Bcash shills at least make technical arguments, so idk wtf your point is. You're literally making the claim anyone favoring bcash is being paid. Evidence of fuck off.

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>>7383839
And there it is, he did it again.

>> No.7383902

>>7383815
boomer you have to go back

>> No.7383931

Why do you need to watch instead of read credible information?

Crypto scares the merchant. It even scares the Commies in Bejing. Roll your profits into mining and enjoy selling your used vidcards after quadrupling your investment or whatever metric make purchase cost irrelevant. Electricity is so cheap in most of US it's hard to lose. Undervolt and run them cool.

Remember to sell cards individually for best return. The gaymerfags (who play instead of making a nice retirement fund) will outbid each other for your old hardware.

>> No.7383939

>>7383887
>unable to substantiate his claim
>victory

Thanks for proving my point entirely, nitwit.

>> No.7383960

Roger lives in all the corekeks heads rent free. Must be nice

>> No.7384109

>>7383761
invest in patriot point coins BUY BUY BUY

>> No.7384191

>>7383902
I don't want any regulations but if you hold bcash the boomers are right, you need some protection from yourself.

>>7383960
The single biggest source of FUD in the crypto community is his army of braindead retards spamming the same youtube videos that only appeal to people that don't understand the basics of crypto. If bcash never existed btc price would be higher, more stable and the markets would be generally less confused. Bcash doesn't do anything other cryptos don't already do so all it has added is pure FUD.

>> No.7384207

This shit is crazy lel

>> No.7384288

>>7384191
That's such horse shit and you know it. You sound like a communist blaming capitalist for their shitty system not working.

Bitcoin dominance and market adoption was falling before this communal split and Blockstream changed bitcoin into Segwit. Don't blame Bcash for following the whitepaper and attracting merchants where Segwit failed.

>> No.7384325

>>7384191
bcrash is just a vehicle for BTC whales to fuck with the normies and we get caught in the crossfire

fuck ver

>> No.7384487

>>7384288
All your claims are based on bcash memes that don't reflect reality. You're informed by the exact same youtube videos I mentioned, completely deluded. If it was really just about tech bcash wouldn't try to market itself as Bitcoin, it could use its own name and marketing. Everything about it is a scam.

>> No.7384666

us gov has already weighed in and declared bcash the real bitcoin, not even kidding

also bcash seems to be working on smart contracts and privacy? seems they have active updates and expansion in mind

aj didn't hurt trumps numbers. he's got a pretty massive audience. this is a good move for roger ver. aj has more credibility with more people then you might think

>> No.7384674

>>7384191
>I don't want any regulations but if you hold bcash the boomers are right, you need some protection from yourself.
Youre a fucking moron who don't understand trademarks, or free software, or the history of bitcoin. You're just a bugman cuckold moonkid, you have no understanding of crypto.

>> No.7384688

>>7384487
Its marketed as bitcoin because it is. Its Segwit that is co-opting the name, dude. Segwit was the change in protocol, not Bcash. In what world is removing signatures from transactions bitcoin?

>> No.7384914

>>7383029
>axpire fags will actually think he'll mention axpire
>lul

Mwahaha like he is an actual advisor and didnt just sell the right fo use his name.

>> No.7385008

REMINDER:

There was no interview and Roger Ver is DUMPING on YOU

>> No.7385025

>>7383773
>But you will keep asking for proofs and saying this is a "nice argument" because this is the default behaviour of bcash shills.
That's true, the default argument of Bitcoin (BCH) holders is to argue during arguments. We don't make baseless assertions like you are doing now.

>> No.7385035

>>7384688
>more repeating of memes
All the other early cryptos are also just forks of bitcoin, none of the reputable ones called themselves bitcoin because that would only cause confusion, like bcash did. Hard forks have been proven to be close to impossible without an incredibly pressing reason that forces consensus. Segwit moves forward instead of settling for 2009 tech and needing a hard fork like cashies want. Signatures are still there, all your memes are wrong.

>> No.7385088

>>7384191
>Bcash doesn't do anything other cryptos don't already do so all it has added is pure FUD.
Bitcoin (BCH) is literally the only coin planning on using industrial computers as nodes rather than desktop computers and laptops. Industrial computers are literally 1,000x to 100,000x more powerful than desktops and laptops. So the Bitcoin (BCH) blockchain will be capable of 1,000x to 100,000x more than every other blockchain. But keep telling yourself it does nothing new.

>> No.7385098

>>7384914
What would be the point of that though? How much could they actually pay him? It was a 10M ICO and he's worth 52M.

>> No.7385115

Oh what a day it will be when Core liberal cucks find out their precious LN is a series of nodes that must go through centralized hubs for transactions to go through. Remember LN is prefunded so those with the most funding become hubs and can open and close payment channels at will. Even sell your transaction data if they wanted. That’s what happens when banks back Blockstream and you’re fooled into thinking a offchain solution is safe. Bitcoin Cash provides on chain scaling, .01 cent fee, and instant transactions. If you are buying BTC you are not the “smart money” entering the market you are buying a dying coin. Smart money is moving to BCH so are merchants and businesses. Don’t be stupid biz you’ve done a lot for me time for me to give back. If you choose to not believe or not even check what I’m saying is true then you’re a dumbass or a paid shill.

>> No.7385131

>>7385035
>Signatures are still there

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+does+Segwit+work

Also, your ignorance is showing. Hardforks are a fact of life in crypto, they are normal upgrades. Before Blockstream literally blocked all development on bitcoin they occurred fairly often, just like they do on solid coins like Monero, hell Bitcoin Cash HF'd a couple months ago.

>> No.7385236

Do you guys believe in these nutjobs?
Fluoride free toothpaste? The only working ingredient in toothpaste is fluoride........

>> No.7385354

>>7385088
>intending to devote a lot of resources to keep running outdated tech is progress
Cashies are so deluded they thing if I spend a hundred million dollars making sure dogecoin has the infrastructure needed to handle a bunch of transactions that makes dogecoin a good solution to the problem.

>>7385131
You aren't living in the real world, deluded into thinking you have a handle on things you don't understand the basics of. There are too many different groups invested in bitcoin in different ways for a hard fork anymore. Miners don't accept what users want and vice versa and yes the fucking signatures are still there, google it yourself.

>> No.7385381

>>7383210
BUT BUT HER EMAILS!

>> No.7385413

>>7385098
>What would be the point of that though? How much could they actually pay him? It was a 10M ICO and he's worth 52M.

1M at a time I guess. He did a tweet and the Markhams are putting his name next to their cash grab. I'm worth half a million Eur (non crypto) and still doing stuff for 1k at a time. It adds up.

>> No.7385426

>>7382739
>comes from the ideology thats based around being narrow minded

kek

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>>7385025
So bcashies indeed have an army of people defending the coin!

>> No.7385492

>>7385354
>literally incapable of following the link "Let me Google that for you" showing how Segwit works and removes signatures from transactions
>tells me to google

You haven't refuted anything, all you've done is appeal to authority at best and stick your fingers in your ears saying "lalalala" at worst.

>> No.7385516

Peter Schiff haha

>> No.7385628

>>7385354
>intending to devote a lot of resources to keep running outdated tech is progress
Are you retarded? You're telling me that because I want to use the best computers available with current technology that means I want outdated technology? That's literally the exact opposite of what I said. You should check out this link and learn to read https://www.hookedonphonics.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkvySy_iR2QIVCLjACh1vRgsZEAAYASAAEgJUqvD_BwE

>> No.7385670

>>7385488
>So bcashies indeed have an army of people defending the coin!
Yes, we have a group of people who aren't mouth breathing retards. So much so that by saying that Bitcoin (BCH) holders can make arguments you think that is somehow evidence of behind the scenes dirty work. All because our side can make arguments. Lol.

>> No.7385764 [DELETED] 

they said bcash was trash
that i would crash
leave the buyer with a rash
but that was too brash
now sell walls will smash
because the real bitcoin
is bcash

>> No.7385791

they said bcash was trash
that it would crash
leave the buyer with a rash
but that was too brash
now sell walls will smash
because the real bitcoin
is bcash

>> No.7385845

>>7385516
hes a regular on the show

>> No.7385863

>>7385492
You haven't made a new claim just presented your memes as truth. Right now signature data is kept but there's no enforcement on nodes to keep it. In the real world they still do and if this becomes an actual problem there are many ways to solve it including the cashies favourite solution, naively throwing hardware at it.

>>7385628
You present a central authority needing to shovel hardware into running your coin as a positive. Ignoring all the positives of crypto, if you just want a central payment processor Visa is doing a great job.

>> No.7385879

>>7385492
>You haven't refuted anything, all you've done is appeal to authority at best and stick your fingers in your ears saying "lalalala" at worst.
Signatures exist only for miners while trying to validate transactions. It does not necessarily exist if you try to look it up on the blockchain unless the miners keep that data (which they have no incentive to do so). Miners can mine blocks without signatures and receive the full block reward, but this block won't be accepted by other miners. The problem is if a mining cartel uses a Selfish Mining attack they can publish a block without publishing the witness data (meaning Segwit supporting miners will not accept it) but as soon as another miner finds a block the cartel releases the witness data thus orphaning the block. If the mining cartel has more than 33% of network hashrate they will always win with this strategy. Through this attack if other miners want to compete they will have to accept blocks from the cartel without accepting signatures because they know the cartel will simply release the signatures late. If the cartel trains 51% of miners (including the cartel) to mine on blocks without signature data then the cartel can forge transactions and steal any Bitcoin that were sent in that block and send them to their own address.

>> No.7385941

>>7382857
hi blueshare <3
cucked extra hard this morning by your wife when tyrone came over to drain his balls into her?

>> No.7386020

>>7385863
>You present a central authority needing to shovel hardware into running your coin as a positive
No, it is the free market adoption of the coin that requires that hardware. You can try to run a raspberry pi on the Bitcoin (BCH) network in five years, it just won't be able to handle the load. Just like if you try to buy a pickaxe to become a gold miner it won't work. That's not what a central authority is. A central authority is someone who tells you that even though your hardware is better, you will not be allowed to help the network. Which is exactly what Blockstream did with small blocks. There are people ready and willing to make Bitcoin (Segwit) scale to much larger sizes but they aren't allowed by Bitcoin (Segwit) Core Developers. I'm not sure how you don't understand.

>> No.7386068

>>7385670
NICE ARGUMENTS!

>> No.7386106

>>7382175
Guys dont you realise how bad bcash is for the blockchain?
why do you support him you stupid niggers
rover ver is an fuckface

>> No.7386111

When roger?

>> No.7386127

>>7386111
A dude with a lot of nice arguments.

>> No.7386198

>>7386106
unironically this.

>> No.7386213

>>7386106
>how bad bcash is for the blockchain
lel blockstream is literally replacing blockstream technology with a retarded mesh network

>>7386111
it got moved to thursday

>> No.7386221

>>7386106
Can you explain why bcash is bad for the blockchain? Post it for prosperity. I know nothing about bcash and also have zero interest in buying any, but I still want to know.

>> No.7386282

>>7386020
We can rush to implement an awful payment processor that Visa will crush easily or we can actually deliver the promise of crypto with global, free nanotransactions and make obsolete all other payment processors. Eventually this renders all payment channels, bureaucracy and brokers like lawyers, real estate agents, car salesmen etc obsolete. I'm not sure how you don't understand.

>> No.7386285

>>7385426
adolf hitler and musolinni has more bipartisan support than anyone in the world

a large plurality of the NSDAP were previously registered as communists.

>> No.7386307

>>7386068
>NICE ARGUMENTS!
If no argument is presented to begin with it can't be countered with a counter argument. You require an argument first to respond with a counter argument. Do you understand?

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>>7385879
>forge transactions and steal any Bitcoin that were sent in that block
This is related to "anyone can spend" correct? IIRC the incentive to form up and attack Segwit grows overtime as the pot grows larger with adoption and unlike Bitcoin collusion is encouraged in this scenario.

>>7385863
>natively throwing hardware at it
Agreed, we should all be using Apple II series computers from 80's...

Dude, if we wanted to scale to Visa tier TODAY it would cost mining operations roughly $2,000 for a year of storage. If you think that is cost prohibitive to contemporary mining operations, you don't know dick about mining. At any rate, we are no where near that level of adoption and hardware costs go down overtime.

>> No.7386341

>>7386213
Rip

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7386358

He often has Max Keiser on the show, he will call out BCash out and Roger will once again end up looking like an autistic cuck.

>> No.7386364

>>7386221
Because its not.

>> No.7386372

>>7386221
We all know the scaling drama has caused a huge rift, resulting in bitcoin forking into the soon to be "Bitcoin Cash".

I know many have large holdings and savings in bitcoin, and are 'hodlers' and will never sell, so when the selling starts, you may lose everything if you don't also sell.

Gentlemen, this is certaintly not going to be gentlemen.

Certain information has come to light from back room channels, sources i cannot disclose ~ even writing this post will probably reveal my source - but i feel by gods will, I must warn you all.

Selling is coming. Selling the likes of which hasn't been seen since MtGox era.
Already as i type this, battleships of bitcoin are being shorted on all major exchanges.

Gentlemen, The enemy, the big blockers, have colluded and joined forces. The chinese, Jihan & co have put together a plan to replace bitcoin with bitcoin cash.

The plan goes like this:
Chinese miners (f2pool, antpool etc etc) have organised with major exchanges (via/huobi/okcoin etc) to support and launch bitcoin cash.
Initially they will let everyone who wants to sell, sell.
Once the coin has bottomed out, and everyone who wanted to sell has sold, they [chinese miners/jihad/chinese exchanges] will begin accumulating lots and lots of bitcoin cash.
They will then begin to pump the price to around 0.1 BCC/BTC - 10%
The big pools won't mine it ~ they will let the smaller pools see the returns from mining this expensive, but low difficulty coin and start mining it.
Later, the larger pools will join, and as we know, jihad has ALOT of hashing power, their plan is for bitcoin cash to have more hashing power than bitcoin ~ and lets be honest, once t he chinese move over, that is pretty much it.
Around this time, the 'hard fork' section of segwit 2x is not going to happen ~ it never was - Bitcoin cash will then be seen as the original NYA coin..

>> No.7386400

>>7386323
>>7385879
/r/btc Rizun tier copypasta

>> No.7386416
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>>7386106
>Guys dont you realise how bad bcash is for the blockchain?
It's the complete opposite you dumb nigger, bcash is actually pushing for adoption and getting more and more every single day. They have a working product that will only become more functional. This is what gives a currency value. It's the
>muh store of value
mentality which created this bubble in the first place.

>> No.7386419

>>7386372
At that point in time, Bitcoin cash will be on all major chinese exchanges, possibly some western exchanges aswell, and have majority hashing power. Western companies & other merchant providers (BitPay - @Spair) etc - paid off by bitmain etc will go along with the new bitcoin cash narrative and will push for the 'bitcoin cash' to be called 'bitcoin' on all their platforms, leaving only coinbase et all which will then be the odd ones out..

Now comes the scary part, The old bitcoin, the bitcoin we know and love, is going to get DESTROYED.
What determines a coins success ? It's market cap.
Big old school blockers and miners are going to dump bitcoin back to the bottom, they will take literally billions and billions of dollars out of bitcoin. They will use the money to fund the marketing, and development, or 'bitcoin cash' - Think, Bitcoin core - FIRED. Think - forbes article, "why bitcoin miners and companies are moving to bitcoin cash" - think - "Why the market is chosing bitcoin cash as bitcoin not bitcoin core" - They wil lsay the market has spoken, that people have voted with their money.

Right now, massive huge shorts are being built, already on finex, shorts are at 32k - not seen since $200 these kinds of numbers of shorts, and its climbing, all the t ime, consistently, they have ALOT of coins to short.

The most painful kind of selling, is where it never bounces and if you remember MtGox from $1000 to $70, you'll remember what no bounces feels like ~ and I can tell you. This won't be any better.

Good luck all, remember - fair warning.

>> No.7386428

>>7386282
I'm so glad that you changed the subject. Right on schedule. Lose an argument change the subject. That's the mantra of Segwit soyboys. You realize that you can build computers today for around $1500 that handle the average capacity of VISA (2000 tx/s). You can do that today. This isn't even on industrial level computers, just high grade desktops. Bitcoin (BCH) is far better at scaling globally than VISA.

>> No.7386451

>>7386400
Lets say it is copypasta for sake of argument, refute it with your own.

>> No.7386471

>>7386372
How many times do you doubting fucktards need to be proven wrong?

Gavincoin has already been defeated. It can be reharshed a million times, the outcome will always be the same: Bitcoin holders getting richer, forktards getting poorer.

>> No.7386517

>>7386451
The attack isn't hypothetical, it's impossible.

>> No.7386540

>>7386221
In simple
Bcash is a one man/company's coin (Jihan/Bitmain).
Jihan/Bitmain have done AsicBoost (a cheat) and AntBleed (a backdoor).
AsicBoost is why Bcash came to exist.
Bcash uses a method that any five-year-old can come up with (and blames the best minds in cryptocurrency for incompetency).

>> No.7386599

>>7386517
>it's impossible
how?

>> No.7386603
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When the fuck is this guy done scamming
At this point he is just trolling everyone
I feel like all the people who own Bcash have atleast a tiny increment of Roger Vers bags, like a fucked up anarcho-capitalistic genghis khan of the 21st century

>> No.7386614

>>7386471
but but but gavin met with the cia and convinced us all craig is satoshi
bcash is real bitcoin don't you see!

>> No.7386619
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>>7386419
>Big old school blockers and miners are going to dump bitcoin back to the bottom, they will take literally billions and billions of dollars out of bitcoin. They will use the money to fund the marketing, and development, or 'bitcoin cash' -

>> No.7386654

>>7386599
The part that relies on everyone in the world not running a full node.

>> No.7386729

Remember guys, BTrash is gonna be the Bitconnect of 2018!
Just a warning, the king will kill the peasant

>> No.7386731

>>7386428
I didn't change the subject, you just don't grasp the subject being discussed.
>Bitcoin (BCH) is far better at scaling globally than VISA.
If you think a decentralized blockchain can beat VISA in scaling tx/s why are you talking about things you have no experience or knowledge of? The VISA tx/s only represents the current demand not any technical limitation, there's no limit except how much hardware they invest.

Scaling to 100x visa is useless. It would still be crushed, no one ever bought crypto because it's so convenient to buy coffee with it. What do you base the claim on that things are different now, that now suddenly it's all about buying coffee?

>> No.7386743

>>7386654
jfc man

Full nodes without hashpower don't validate or secure transactions. All full nodes are capable of is verifying consensus rules. This means if you are running a full node without hashpower, you can see fuckery on the network, but you can literally do nothing about it as you do nothing to validate transactions.

>> No.7386762

>>7386428
dude do you even know Visa tech?

>> No.7386768
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LINK turns frogs gay.

>> No.7386849

>>7386731
>confirmed never spent crypto in his life

Bitcoin use to be extremely convenient to spend and Bitcoin Cash still is, I know because I spend it.

>no need to identify yourself
>payments are instant
>orders of magnitude more secure than using credit cards (seriously this is the most undervalued aspect of crypto)

There are more reasons, but since all you're here for is speculation not adoption, why bother?

>> No.7387083

>>7386849
We can rush to implement an awful payment processor that Visa will crush easily or we can actually deliver the promise of crypto with global, free nanotransactions and make obsolete all other payment processors.
>this is changing the subject according to this retard

>Bitcoin use to be extremely convenient to spend
I used it online in 2013-2014 and wasn't any better. My best experience has been with dogecoin, active and trusted for years. Dogecoin is everything bcash wants to be. If Roger was honest he would have shilled dogecoin instead of jumping on something pretending to be the original bitcoin and spreading FUD about people doing actual development.

>> No.7387268

>>7387083
RENT FREE

>> No.7387299

>>7386731
>If you think a decentralized blockchain can beat VISA in scaling tx/s why are you talking about things you have no experience or knowledge of?
Except Bitcoin (BCH) has no overhead. So VISA has tens of thousands of employees to pay, BCH runs itself. Also Bitcoin (BCH) uses less of basically every resource related to computing than VISA (Bandwidth, Processing Requirements, Memory, etc.). I don't think you understand.
>I didn't change the subject, you just don't grasp the subject being discussed.
That's funny because this discussion was first about centralization and you still haven't responded to my point that Bitcoin (Segwit)'s Core developers aren't allowing those with powerful hardware to help the network to the full extent they are possible. Instead blockstream is centralizing the network for small nodes only. Will you respond to that point now or will you change the subject again?

>> No.7387323

>>7387083
There is absolutely no way you used Bitcoin back then and consistently had bad experiences. BIP-0125 that implemented RBF and removed 0-conf didn't exist then nor were the blocks full. You're full of shit, my dude.

>> No.7387420

>>7386743
>you can see fuckery on the network, but you can literally do nothing about it as you do nothing to validate transactions.
Except running a full node isn't enough, you have to be watching the transactions yourself. That's why that one time when two transactions created 92 billion BTC out of thin air none of the full nodes knew until two blocks later when someone personally watching the blockchain saw it. Running a full node doesn't protect shit unless you know how to dig into the blockchain data itself. Running a full node just means the data is available, nothing more.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822.0

>> No.7387479

>>7387083
>this is changing the subject according to this retard
We were talking about centralization of nodes you tard. Is competing with Visa related to centralization of nodes?

>> No.7387533

>>7387299
How is it centralisation when it only allows small nodes? All this does is increase the amount of nodes, which is the opposite of centralisation.

Not trying to be smart or anything, but I genuinely don't understand your argument.

>> No.7387602

>>7387323
I didn't have bad experiences then just like I don't do now, I transferred a few btc in a couple of minutes the other day, just like it was in 2013. 0-conf was not implemented on any of the online services I tried like the many gambling sites etc and dogecoin was always faster, cheaper and easier than btc. Dogecoin still today has wider adoption in those kind of services than bcash.

>>7387479
Bigger blocks centralize nodes by requiring more investment in hardware just to satisfy the aim of implementing an awful payment processor to be crushed by VISA instead of actually developing crypto forward to eventually crush VISA you retard. So you sacrifice decentralization, the crucial advantage of crypto for something pretty much worthless that we already have, a shitty payment processor.

>> No.7387606

>>7387420
Whats worse is non-mining nodes open up Sybil attack vectors as transactions now need to be relayed from nodes that aren't contributing hashpower.

>> No.7387652

>>7387533
>How is it centralisation when it only allows small nodes?
Because centralization is when one group forbids another group from doing something. Blockstream is forbidding those with industrial computing power from lending their industrial computing power to the network. They are artificially limiting the amount of computing power on the network. Like when the Soviets centralized the production of bread and limited the amount of bread each person could have even though it was possible for the people to produce and consume more. If you artificially limit something you are centralizing.

>> No.7387699

>>7387602
>Bigger blocks centralize nodes by requiring more investment in hardware
That's not centralization, that is the market following the rules of economies of scale. Centralization is artificial limits imposed on the market, like the artificial block size limit.

>> No.7387707
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WAS ROGER ON YET??

>> No.7387719

>>7387602
>just like 2013

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-transactionfees.html

https://blockchain.info/charts/avg-confirmation-time?timespan=all

>> No.7387743

>>7387606
This is very true. SPV nodes are hyper-secure on blockchains with large blocks. But with smaller blocks Sybil attacks are possible. SPV literally lets you validate all of your own transactions so its like the ultimate small blockers dream, they just don't know what SPV is.

>> No.7387961

>>7387652
You had to spell that out because I give people the benefit of the doubt and assume they aren't being completely braindead, you actually exceeded my expectations of how dumb a cashie could be.
>not hard forking to change the rules to allow the biggest players to have more control over the network is centralization

No one is forbidding anything, these are the rules that the bitcoin network runs and has run for years. If you don't like it you can hardfork to make your own coin. Just please avoid calling it bitcoin because names exist to distinguish things. Also cow says moo and doggie says woof.

>> No.7387969

>>7387602
>>7387719

Forgot this as well:

https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size?timespan=all

>> No.7388004

>>7387652
>Because centralization is when one group forbids another group from doing something.
We must be looking at different definitions of centralisation, because according to the Merriam Webster dictionary it's "to concentrate by placing power and authority in a center or central organization". If this is the case, then having abundant nodes as a result of a size limit is definitely more decentralised than having less nodes with no size limit.

>> No.7388245

>>7387719
What's the point of that? Like I said Dogecoin was always cheaper, faster and easier in general. It has faster block times and since most sites required multiple confirmations in practice the difference in speed was a lot even back then.

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>>7382857
Fucking nigger, this isn't ledit.

>> No.7388315

>>7387961
>No one is forbidding anything
Block size increases aren't allowed by the developers. The Bitcoin (Segwit) blockchain is forbidden from having over 4,000 tx a block. How dense are you? Try putting 6,000 tx in a block. Go ahead, I'll wait.

>> No.7388357

>>7388004
You're missing the part where full nodes without hashpower don't do anything for decentralization. Only nodes with hashpower contribute to decentralization, i.e. miners. Even if blocks were 1GB today HDD would still be the least costly piece of their mining equipment.

>>7388245
Dogecoin isn't designed to scale. It can handle cheap and fast transactions rn because there is low volume on the network. This doesn't add anything of merit to supporting Blockstream, literally what are you doing?

>> No.7388465

>>7388004
>to concentrate by placing power and authority in a center or central organization
But the block size limit is imposed by the 5 Core developers with access to making changes to the code. The same 5 Core developers that revoked access to changing the code to all developers in favor of larger blocks. Please tell me which central organization has power and authority over each individual on Earth's ability to build a computer capable of running a full node on BCH? Remember, a $1500 computer with two 8 core processors can handle 2,000 tx/s which is VISA level. Do the Bitcoin (BCH) developers have a monopoly on computer hardware like the Blockstream small block developers have a monopoly on the Bitcoin code?

>> No.7388593
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Corefag's face when BCH flips bitcoin and becomes the KING.

>> No.7388617

>>7388465
You're making valid points. I'm going to research this a bit more so that I can get the bigger picture.

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>>7388593

>> No.7388736

WAS HIS INTERVIEW CANCELLED?

WHY IS THERE NO VIDEO ITT?

>> No.7388745

>>7388315
>Block size increases aren't allowed by the developers.
False, it requires a hard fork and attempts to do so all failed to reach a consensus, whether a block size increase is the right move isn't even clear and if it was it still wouldn't be easy. Cashies are never developers, they are always normies who think they know everything.
>It's so easy you just change one number
No, go fuck yourself or make your own shitcoin.

>>7388357
Dogecoin or something very similar is perfect if all you want is a lot of fast tx/s and are willing to shovel hardware into it and sacrifice decentralization but like I already said if that's the case VISA will always outcompete you even if they need to implement their own centralized crypto to do it.

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>>7388717

Writings on the wall, corefag.

>> No.7389014

>>7382175
AXPire shill incoming. This is not a drill. I repeat, this is not a drill.

>> No.7389024

>>7388617
Most intelligent post on /biz/.

>>7388745
I can't speak for the other anon, but back in August I had faith in Core and so did miners. The hard lesson was blind faith is stupid and the veil of lies is slipping away as people began to discover the ulterior motives involved with limiting block size and implementing Segwit.

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>>7389024

Miners and Merchants are throwing bitcoin under the bus for greener pastures. Shant be long now

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roger ver suck

press S to spit on roger ver

>> No.7389453

>>7386743
I don't think you understand how block propagation works. I don't "send out a request for witness data". When you have a new block, you send me the block. If it doesn't have the witness data, it's invalid and I ban your clearly misbehaving node, and so does the other 90%+ of the network. Just like that time a BU miner produced a >1MB block.

Stop reading reddit and CIAndressen nonsense, you don't know how Bitcoin works and why it exists. It shows as you feel victim of the Craig Wright propaganda.

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FUCKING ANSWER ME FUCKING /biz/lets

WAS ROGER ON INFOWARS OR NOT FUCK??????

>> No.7389966
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>>7388315
>Block size increases aren't allowed by the developers.

You are a complete fucktard, just like all bcash bagholders and anyone on any subreddit. Please continue being poor and stupid. You can keep complaining about X Y or Z, you can keep spamming the network, you can keep the marketing campaigns going, you can keep the US corporate deals going, the outcome will be the same.

Bitcoin needs hard people, not hard forks.

>>7389024
There is no demand for bigger blocks, otherwise bcash would be getting used more than Bitcoin, but it isn't, it's as used as Dogecoin or any other shitcoin, perhaps because spending an asset limited in amount above it's store of wealth use is completely retarded (you spend the shitty money, that's fiat, which is designed in purpose to make drones consume and good enough to do so; you do not spend the good -savings- money), and anything that threatens the store of value properties is rejected by anyone with enough money to matter, and believe me, the biggest wallets against forktards don't even run Core software.

As a matter of fact, even satoshi realized back in the day that people would oppose bigger blocksizes so they don't become USG's Coinbase(TM) cucks processing everything for them and deciding what is Bitcoin for them.

>> No.7390249

>>7389024
I started out agnostic to these ideas about ulterior motives but the FUD machine that is bcash showed you can't place the slightest bit of trust in any of these rumors. LN seems awesome, the conspiracy theories about centralization etc don't really hold up and I will give core the benefit of the doubt until they actually fuck up and if they do fuck up bad enough everyone involved is pressured into a consensus on a hard fork anyway or if they just slightly fuck up and make a poor product a better solution eventually replaces it. Whatever happens out of all the cryptos that better solution won't be bcash.