considering crypto is dead, lets talk the new /biz/ approved hobby Poker you can make some serious money by deceiving old boomers, any other /biz/realis play texas hold'em or omaha? Got any gainz stories?

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Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:17:38 2018 No.7357531 [Reply] [Original]

considering crypto is dead, lets talk the new /biz/ approved hobby

Poker

you can make some serious money by deceiving old boomers, any other /biz/realis play texas hold'em or omaha? Got any gainz stories?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:20:19 2018 No.7357706 I'm interested. Never played online though. Care to share how it works? What are the best sites? Etc?

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:22:49 2018 No.7357848

Nobody getting rich playing poker anymore. Fortunes were made online, but that's been dead for years. The game has gotten much harder. Tournaments have literally never been profitable long term and it's difficult to find even a steady 5/10 game outside of vegas and ac.

It's a fun, rewarding hobby, but you won't make a living out of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:24:30 2018 No.7357934 File: 632 KB, 1024x768, 1517235987383.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7357848 Let me tell you, about FunFair.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:25:07 2018 No.7357971 I play 1/2-3/6 online. Made 78k last year, 72k year before that.

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:26:37 2018 No.7358053

>>7357706
Online poker is kinda dead right now, and I cant really recommend a site as they're all infested with bots at the moment. It also much harder to read emotions on online poker obviously. Most people agree that in person games are easier.

http://www.replaypoker.com/invite/3793a73824d381f982e88afd6f884aa3

here's an online site that has virtual money so you learn the game without using real money. You need to play around 10,000 to 50,000 hands before you really start getting good at the game

you can find tutorials on youtube on any game's rules

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:27:26 2018 No.7358094 >>7358053 fuck off with your affiliate links faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:30:18 2018 No.7358221 >>7358094 you fuck off, he gets more chips by using that link asshat

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:30:46 2018 No.7358244 >>7357531 Just bet on football matches, same shit like crypto right now

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:31:59 2018 No.7358306 File: 323 KB, 777x728, 1478920725134.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7358244 I've considered doing this but I have no idea what sites are fair, which are scams, etc

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:38:34 2018 No.7358615 https://www.partypoker.com/how-to-play/texas-holdem.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:40:19 2018 No.7358700 >>7357934 Funfair doesn't support pvp games. Sell your bags and wait for the virtuepoker ico.

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:40:45 2018 No.7358721

>>7357934
The skill gap is what makes you money. The skill gap between a recreational player and a professional is very large. The skill gap between the best player in the world and the 10,000th best player in the world is very small. When it became difficult to deposit money into the reputable poker sites, the recreational players dried up. Now it's just sharks passing their money back and forth and losing to to the rake. The various sites still in operation tend to have poor bot detection software, so there's that threat, too. It's dead.

The casinos rake on live games is prohibitive in games smaller than 5/10.

Poker is a hobby. Only the freaks make any money, and they're actually losing money by wasting their intelligence and ability on poker when the skills required to be a big winner now days could be applied to different fields and net far greater income.

It's dead you fucking degenerates. Back in 06, during the party poker days, it was like picking up money off the ground. Those days are gone and are never coming back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:43:37 2018 No.7358884 >>7357706 Can play on ignition casino in US. Softer than PokerStars but not as good as pre Black Friday

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:44:05 2018 No.7358916 >>7357531 >>7357706 >>7357848 >>7357934 >>7357971 >>7358053 >>7358094 >>7358221 >>7358244 >>7358306 LIVE STREAM FAGGOTS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6v8ws7_pvg

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:44:56 2018 No.7358961 >>7358916 is this old or actually live?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:45:14 2018 No.7358978 >>7358053 >>7358221 Implying we cant tell its you, you faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:45:59 2018 No.7359014 >>7358961 na just some kid streaming episodes

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:47:46 2018 No.7359105 what's the next crypto?

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:49:11 2018 No.7359175

Online is much harder than IRL. You will find fish online of course, but they are far and few in between compared to what you'll get at casinos. Online has become very technical and a lot of easy money left when the US poker sites got shut down. Unless you're very good, you will get fucked up on the higher stakes online. I mean you probably will IRL too, but you don't get rich shits from the middle East throwing their money away online like you do at a casino.

But, if you do get good enough to hang online and learn how not to rely on a HUD, you can do well IRL. It really is much easier when only a quarter of your competition aren't drunk idiots chasing flushes or making obvious bluffs. If they play slow, they're holding. If they are going aggro, they have nothing.

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:49:55 2018 No.7359206

When I was traveling in Thailand I met a Scandinavian guy who was living off online poker winnings.
Apparently French websites were his favorite because they made stupid bets.
He didn't make much money doing it, he said times were so hard for a while that he couldn't afford a haircut.
But he at least made enough money to travel the world and party so he was doing great in my book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:54:41 2018 No.7359402 Now that crypto is dead, let's not talk about that totally gay boomer gambling shit. Let's talk about prostitution, REAL money for REAL service. I know some pretty desperate dudes at the bars, I think I can make $500 a night for bjs

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:58:23 2018 No.7359552 >>7359402 You're going to suck dick for money?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 00:59:53 2018 No.7359619 >>7359402 put your manwhore money into poker and make it work for you

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:00:53 2018 No.7359657 File: 34 KB, 512x384, 1516389121608.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm too stupid for a reputable career and I hate work in general, and socializing. It's all just so tiring

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:11:14 2018 No.7360102

No larp, I played poker professionally for 10 years from 20-30.

As previous Anons stated, it was profitable fir the first 5 years, 2003-2008 then I pretty much lost and blew through all my profits over the following 5 years.

Now I am a wage-cuck who hopes to make it from crypto. I guess that dream is dead too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:13:50 2018 No.7360180 >>7358053 IT WONT BE AFTER FUNFAIR REVOLUTIONIZES ONLINE GAMBLING BUY FUNFAIR PLEASE AAAAAAAAAASAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:14:35 2018 No.7360222 >>7360102 what changed?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:15:14 2018 No.7360244 >>7360102 F

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:17:12 2018 No.7360302 >>7360222 black friday happened

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:17:36 2018 No.7360322 >>7360222 he tilted

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:18:05 2018 No.7360338

>>7357531
I warn everyone on here to stay away from poker unless you strictly play live games. All the sites are polluted with bots and it's already been proven,as with chess, ai is superior at playing poker.

The golden era of making poker money online was over like 6-7 years ago. I made 10K starting from 400 bucks in a span of 2 years and I had 15K overall but lost 5K and once that happened I cashed the fuck out and never got back into it. I would play relatively low stakes and enter like 2 dollar tournaments and shit.

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:19:23 2018 No.7360383

>>7358721
>Only the freaks make any money, and they're actually losing money by wasting their intelligence and ability on poker when the skills required to be a big winner now days could be applied to different fields and net far greater income.

so true
its sad seeing those nerds kill it in the live games nowadays because im normie as fuck irl and our win rate probably isnt that much far apart

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:19:31 2018 No.7360385 I play full time. Its meh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:20:08 2018 No.7360409 >poker Good luck beating 10nl in your first 2 years

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:21:15 2018 No.7360441 >>7359402 I unironically wouldn't mind doing this. Just too sketchy getting into. If a guy offered me $100 to suck his dick, I'd definitely do it. I need money to invest.

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:21:22 2018 No.7360447

yeap, many, many many times winning 2k+ in a few days online omaha.. still ended up down 1k for the year by aways wanting to play higher stakes. The winner is always the rake. Its an ok game but I'd recommend trying to make poker bots if you really want to succeed. that's my plan when I get around to it

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:22:27 2018 No.7360484 >>7360222 Black Friday killed online poker. Crypto suffered same fate. Normies come -> huge profit -> government bans/regulates ->death.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:25:07 2018 No.7360565 its only autists playing online who dont want to give money away even at cent stakes and these coaching trying to tell u some shit to make their money poor people getting scammed

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:25:53 2018 No.7360590 File: 821 KB, 707x1000, 1449834451870.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've made more than a million over the past decade playing online poker. AMA

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:26:05 2018 No.7360596 Nice thread Doug. Done with the Crypto channel now? >>7358721 >skill gap between the best playwr and the top 10,000 Danny is laughing at you and Phil is about to throw a chair. But I agree with your overall point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:27:04 2018 No.7360625 >>7357531 Daniel is such a fucking faggot. Bring on the Tony G! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0SNlURIURA

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:27:44 2018 No.7360643 >>7360590 How much did you lose?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:30:06 2018 No.7360728 >>7357531 meditation. dead srs. take 5 min right now and try it out, you'll be glad you did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Gk9tGrA-k

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:30:55 2018 No.7360767

>>7358721
>The skill gap between a recreational player and a professional is very large.

yes

>The skill gap between the best player in the world and the 10,000th best player in the world is very small.

lolno. Even when playing largely solved games like heads up NL, professional players make absurd mistakes. Optimal strategies require multiple bet sizes with mixed frequencies for most combos. Humans can't implement these strategies anywhere near perfectly and as such there is a massive edge to be had even against professional opponents.

People generally suck less at 6max or full ring, but you can find very good edges once you have big enough samples on your regular opponents.

If you aren't in the lab grinding out sims or checking every showdown against your opponents, then you won't find these edges. Most are too lazy to put in that kind of work and you end up with people spewing this nonsense about there being no edge between higher level players

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:33:07 2018 No.7360848

>>7360484
While we may not be in glory days anymore, online poker is alive and well in the USA. Nevada and new jersey have legalized and regulated sites with fast, reliable deposits and cashouts. Volume is nowhere near pokerboom days on those sites, but thats mostly a function of the much smaller market size for these ringfenced networks.

At peak hours, bovada and america's cardroom have dozens of midstakes+ games going.

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:37:16 2018 No.7360986

>>7357848
Its still possible to make hundreds of thousands a year as a seasoned professional. You just have to put in the time studying and grinding.

Linking to a tweet of a fellow pros 2017 results https://twitter.com/RealTwoSHAE/status/958092039580717058

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:53:44 2018 No.7361721 >>7360590 bumping this one last time, in case anyone had any real questions

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:57:12 2018 No.7361875 >>7361721 ben?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 01:59:25 2018 No.7361952 >>7361875 I'm not named ben

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 02:01:31 2018 No.7362043 >>7361952 Don't want to out yourself as a /biz/raeli I see

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 02:02:41 2018 No.7362070 >>7357531 I used to 4 table 1/2 on Bovada made a lot lost most of it

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 02:03:22 2018 No.7362101 File: 52 KB, 264x148, folies2_016.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7360590 teach me how, how much do I need to start with pls <3

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 02:04:42 2018 No.7362160 >>7360590 can I have $20 for a pizza, ive down 50% and hungry seriously though, what advice would you have for a mid level break even player like me

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 02:07:21 2018 No.7362281 >>7362101 Do you live where online poker is legal?

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 02:09:53 2018 No.7362372

>>7362101
There is a lot of free content out there right now you can use to train yourself up to near a break-even level for smaller stakes games. Check out youtube and twitch poker. Throw $50 online and mess around in the $2 games and focus on refining your thought process.

If you get to that point and still enjoy it, you'd want to look into paid training sites and a database/hud. Thats a ways away for a beginner though

>>7362160
breh I'm stuck 6figs in crypto over the last month :P

If you have been breaking even in any online games, thats actually quite an accomplishment in todays climate. I'd get a subscription to one of the paid training sites. For $100/month you can get some pretty high level content that could train you up to a point where you could be making hundreds or thousands a month

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 02:10:55 2018 No.7362432 >>7362281 I live in New Jersey, so I have access to the legalized and regulated online games here.

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 02:17:21 2018 No.7362717

>>7362432
Lucky
There's a few books I'd recommend you check out if you're serious.
Advanced Hold Em Poker by Mason Malmuth is a great one.
Put some cash into PokerStars or one of the other sites
play small stakes NL Cash games until you figure out your play style, what range of starting hands you plan on playing with.
Play a few MTTs or Spin N Go's to try and get comfortable with the pacing and riskier play styles of them.

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 02:18:35 2018 No.7362762

>>7362372
>There is a lot of free content out there right now you can use to train yourself up to near a break-even level for smaller stakes games. Check out youtube and twitch poker. Throw $50 online and mess around in the $2 games and focus on refining your thought process.
any specifics mister?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 02:24:01 2018 No.7363014 This fucking thread. I cannot believe it was implied there's any skill or technique in a fucking card game. It's all luck, shut the fuck up. I can beat all of you at Poker and I've never even played it. There's a chance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 02:25:25 2018 No.7363066 >>7363014 What are you 16? You don't know shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 6 02:26:58 2018 No.7363113 >>7362372 which subscription do you recommend

Anonymous Tue Feb 6 02:33:41 2018 No.7363387

>>7362762
I don't really keep up with content geared towards beginners. I will say the poker vids I've seen from doug polk on youtube are legit. I don't think he really streams poker anymore, but that was also very high quality free content.

>>7363113
I have a Runitonce subscription and I'd recommend it. They have good content for most popular game types (NL cash, tournaments, PLO cash) but not so much content for the spin-and-go sit and go kinda stuff

>>	windomino windomino Wed Oct 17 23:37:12 2018 No.7363387,1 the information is very useful thanks

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