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7343781 No.7343781 [Reply] [Original]

Obama took is out of a recession to a time of economic prosperity where American felt comfortable spending again, where unemployment rate went down at unprecedented levels, and job creation levels were consistently high.

In Trump's first year he has not been able to compete with Obama and his only economic "success" (very arguable he can or should take any credit for this) has been the stock market which is now in free fall. On top of all this, he plans to put us $1T+ further in debt when every economist agrees the time to pay down debt is during a time of economic success which he's claiming we have an abundance of.

With rate hikes around the corner, the stock market will continue to crash, and Trump will have nothing to point to in terms of any economic success.

Prove me wrong.

>> No.7343950

Aaaaand you can't.

>> No.7344163

Aaaaaaand nobody can, because Trump is single handedly ruining my country.

>> No.7344273

Not even trolling but is there a single person alive right now with any kind of business sense who would call Trump a succesful investor/businessman? Except for Trump himself obviously.

I mean the man inherited an empire and hasn't beaten the index even once afaik.

>> No.7344355

>>7343781
I WISH we knew of a new deflationary asset classed blessed by the SEC today

coz, that would be where all this money is going

>> No.7344356

GDP growth and stock market growth is still up massively since his election. He is objectively better for the economy than Obama. Obama had initial high growth because we were coming out of a recession, but in the last few years he had almost no growth whatsoever. It's crazy to think how much better our economy would be right now if we had had a Republican in the entire time.

>> No.7344361

>>7344273
Of course he's a shit businessman. Literally given millions upon millions of dollars over and over again and still manages to run shit into the ground, as recently as... last month.

But that's not the point. The point is, the economy under Trump has suffered whereas under Obama it was unbelievably good, even though Obama literally inherited a FUCKING RECESSION.

Fucking prove me wrong, Trumpfags. Your "president" is a joke, thanks for ruining this once beautiful country.

>> No.7344406

>>7344361
>But that's not the point. The point is, the economy under Trump has suffered
In what way has the economy suffered, please tell me one statistic where we are worse off than we were under Obama. The stock market is still up 25% after a little over a year even after a bad day.

>> No.7344409

>>7343781
Good god it’s been three days. Relax
And I know you’re reasonable enough to realize you can’t prove that something won’t happen.

>> No.7344410
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>>7343781

>> No.7344412

so is america great again? if not, when the greatness will show up?

>> No.7344414

With Obama's 20trillion dollar bags we're all going down but keep blaming the Don. FUCK drumppjvf and fuck white people! Did I do it right?

>> No.7344452

>>7344356
>Obama had initial high growth because we were coming out of a recession
The economic recovery didn't begin until his 2nd term.

>> No.7344496

>>7344414

No, bg2/pol/ you fuck

>> No.7344510

>>7344356
Stock market is a terrible measure of the economy.

Your boy Trump said the U.S. never hit 3% GDP growth under Obama after he had a 3% quarter, except that happened 8 fucking quarters for Obama. 8. Count 'em, if you can.

Wanna talk annually? Trump hit 2.3%, Obama's highest year was 2.9%

Fuck off, next.

>> No.7344519

>>7344452
Google Dow Jones and look at the graph you retarded fuck. The recovery began in 2009/2010 which were firmly in his first term. By 2013 growth started to level off.

>> No.7344560

>>7344410
>b-but muh gdp

>> No.7344568

>>7344510
>Obama's highest year was 2.9%
Recovering from a recession you stupid fuck. When you start at zero it's very easy to grow. The economy stagnated heavily in Obama's second term. Also comparing Obama's best year after Trump's first when Obama had 8 years in office is completely asinine.

>> No.7344576

>>7344406
Worse GDP growth, worse job creation, worse employment rates, less spending.

By every measure of the economy, it is worse.

Hint, fuckboi: The stock market is not a measure of the economy. It's a measure of the stock market. Anyone with half a fucking brain understands that.

Fucking NEXT!

>> No.7344587

>>7344163
The only way to settle this is for America to split into two different teams and start shooting at each other. This is going to get fun fast.

>> No.7344606

>>7344568
>Makes some lame excuses despite that all of Obama's numbers are better than Trumps will ever be.

BTW this will be Trump's best year in office b/c he won't last 2.

NEXT!

>> No.7344611

>>7343781
>Obama took is out of a recession to a time of economic prosperity
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>> No.7344665
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7344665

FUCK YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS
Stop focusing on Trump and focus on the jewish trickery that is happening.
>muh Redit says Trump is bad xD
Go back to redit and come back if you get some brains in the future. I cant stand this fucking board anymore.

>> No.7344688

>>7344606
You are so childish it's pathetic.
NEXT
got 'em! Epic burn

>> No.7344691

>>7344576
>worse job creation
Under obama the country was losing jobs. Under Trump its gaining jobs. This was one of the main points of his campaign.

>lets just make a bunch of bullshit statements cause trump was mean to roasties and beaners like you

>> No.7344721

>>7344611
That's funny? Read a fucking book, faggot. You are a know nothing.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/debate-club/articles/2017-01-19/history-will-look-kindly-on-obamas-great-recession-economic-response

https://www.ft.com/content/b5b764cc-d657-11e6-944b-e7eb37a6aa8e

https://www.thebalance.com/what-has-obama-done-11-major-accomplishments-3306158

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession_in_the_United_States

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/president-obama-the-legacy/eight-years-later-economy-president-obama-s-legacy-n703616

https://www.npr.org/2017/01/19/510491692/the-america-donald-trump-is-inheriting-by-the-numbers

>> No.7344757

>>7344721
Wow the media kikes are sucking off the CIA's puppet real shocking

>> No.7344777

>>7344568
HE TOOK IT FROM -3.5%, FUCKBOI. LET'S SEE TRUMP GET GROWTH THAT GOOD.

NEXT

>> No.7344779

>>7344606
Tbh he'll probably get a second term. If democrats cant appeal to one of the greatest voting majorities (straight, white, non-college educated men) then they can' t win. Simple as that.

>> No.7344795

fuck whoever voted for this orange wojack

>> No.7344808

>>7344757
You literally can't prove me wrong, your fag Trump is ruining your economy and you're on his nuts. I love this shit, you fucking retards make the entire country the laughing stock of the world.

But you're probably a shit eating spoiled rat millenial who just listens to what his brainless parents say.

NEXT

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>>7344606
You will never experience another year in your life when a Trump isn’t in office.

>> No.7344860

>>7344808
Trump is ruining my economy by increasing the GDP growth and stock market growth. The media kikes all say so, so it must be true! CNN would never lie to me and the CIA definitely doesn't control the mass media.

>> No.7344863

Come on, Trumpfags. Find me an actual fact supporting your ass candidate, not just the bullshit you hear Trump himself say.

HINT: HE FUCKING LIES TO YOU, YOU GULLIBLE WORMS.

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>yfw the stock market is actually making a healthy correction but bitcoin isn't
hahahahahahahahahah your runescape gold is going to be literally worthless in a month. Better get out now and stop trying to circumvent the jew. Yam tov

>> No.7344902

>>7344860
LOLOL ANOTHER TRUMPFAG QUOTING THE STOCK MARKET AS AN ECONOMIC GROWTH MEASURE.

ARE YOU ALL THIS DUMB? I BET YOU ARE.

NEXT!

>> No.7344920

>>7344863
Cause Hilary was so honest. And he has kept many of his promises

>> No.7344925

You can't be serious using the unemployment rate. If your not stamps or benefits but don't have a job you are not counted. It is a horrible metric lol oh by the way black unemployment is at a record low :<)

>> No.7344927

>>7344863
He's going to gas the jews

>> No.7344952

Think some garbage might have blown in from pol.

>> No.7344968

>>7344920
WHATABOUTISM

AS IF ANYONE WANTED HILLARY IN OFFICE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN TRUMP ISN'T LITERAL GARBAGE.

NEXT.

>> No.7344991

What gets me about how insanely stupid and brainwashed socialists are is that they don't seem to ever question why the rich and elite all support their candidates. Obama's campaign was funded by the major banks and citibank chose ALL of his cabinet members but he totally cares about me and isn't a puppet for the rich and powerful!

CNN who is owned by AT&T and NBC who is owned by Comcast and the Washington Post who is owned by Amazon and the New York Times who are owned by a Mexican billionaire all totally care about me and aren't trying to scam me into supporting CIA puppets!

>> No.7345036

During 8 years of Obama all the conservatives could every talk about was the debt and Obama printing money. Obama supposedly added massive debt, even though it was from GWB's tax cuts and entitlements, but they blamed Obama for the debt. And the debt was the single greatest failure of any president. It was a catastrophe, it worth shutting down the government and defaulting on bonds to reduce the debt. Anyone with half a brain and knew even the smallest bit about economics knew the national debt was about to cause the apocalypse. Money was flying off the printing press too, they were going to introduce a 1000 bill with Obama's face on it. USD would be named Obama bucks because they were so inflated from QE. So said conservatives.

Fast forward to Trump. All a sudden, debt is good! Trump is the king of debt! A weak dollar boosts trade! Its basic economics! China devalues their currency which is bad! But we should do it too! And who gives a fuck about debt just print more money it'll bring all the coal jobs back. Anyone with HS diploma can make $90k/year in a coal mine and buy a McMansion just like in the 1950s!

Conservatives are the dumbest, most gullible fucking retarded in the world lmao.

>> No.7345062

>>7344968
But like i said. Hes kept some of his promises. You might just be the most cancerous person i've seen on here. Do you need to type everything in caps and talk so much shit? Its like im arguing with a trans protestor.

>> No.7345078

>>7344925
Obama unemployment rate when he took office: 7.8%

What he left to Trump: 4.7%

December 2017: 4.1%, with 0 policies coming from Trump so still Obama. Let's even see what happens next.

OH AND BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT RATE: 7.7%, NOT A RECORD LOW.

Fucking NEEXXXXTTT!

>> No.7345125

>>7344991
lol this isn't about politics, it's literally just about Trump fucking us over. I just know that citing Obama being better than Trump ticks you retards off so much because it's true.

Trump is just trash, as are all of you who helped ruin my beautiful country.

>> No.7345139

>stock goes down obama's first year
>its obamas fault
>stock goes up the next 7
>stock market doesn't matter
>stock goes up first year of trump's
>stock matters again
>stocks crash
>stocks don't matter anymore

>> No.7345163

>>7345062
OH YEA?

>NOTHING DONE YET, NO PROMISES KEPT
YOU ARE FUCKING HERE
>NICE WALL
>NICE JOB CREATION (LOLOLOLOLOL!!!)
>NICE IMMIGRATION POLICIES
>NICE DRAINING THE SWAMP
>NICE LOCKING HILLARY UP

NEXT???!!!!!!

>> No.7345165

>>7343781

It's funny because a week ago OP would have been like "this great economy is because of Obama, not Trump!"

>> No.7345166

>>7344587
It'll finally accepted to start shooting my nogunz neighbors. Fuck yeah this'll be great. Like fish in a barrel

>> No.7345186

>>7345125
>my beautiful country
You mean Trump's beautiful country. Also i hope your kids school gets shot up.

>> No.7345194

I can't believe that /biz/ is still dumb enough to think that choosing the (((right))) side means anything.

>> No.7345207

>>7344355
It’s not. Crypto continues to fall.

>> No.7345209

What retarded socialists don't understand is they will never actually allow you to have a real socialist candidate. Whenever some dumb fuck like Bernie Sanders tries to run they are just going to cheat and steal the election from you, just like Hillary did. They are playing you to support fake socialist candidates who work for the rich and powerful (large corporations and the CIA). Yet you actually believe these kikes care about you. You actually believe that Obama who let CITIBANK pick ALL of his cabinet members cares about you.

Have you ever even questioned how Obama got to be the president? Who the fuck is Obama? What did this guy ever do to become the most powerful man in the country? He was a nobody, basically unemployed until he ran for congress and then almost immediately pushed into the Presidency. How do you think that happens? It happens because the CIA and the banks know he does whatever they tell him to.

>> No.7345222

>>7344665

Go back to /pol/

>> No.7345237

>>7345036
This, conservatives have low IQs. You can't be smart and also want to destroy your own life. Only hyper wealthy conservatives have high IQs.

>> No.7345243

>>7345186
is this the effects of the bear market? Are you okay?

>> No.7345250

>>7344665
>shadilay maga pedes!!

>> No.7345278
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7345278

>>7344927
but why would he gas himself?

>> No.7345279
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7345279

How stupid are you people? Do you really believe the president of the united states just has little dials at his desk that determine if the market goes up or down? Why do you think you can lay the success or the failure of the entire economy at the feet of one man?

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>> No.7345282

>>7345166
LOOK AT YOUR ENGLISH. TRADE YOUR GUN FOR A BOOK PLEASE.

>> No.7345287

>>7345163
>job creation
But he is creating jobs

>the wall
Correct but his majorly anti immagration stance has slowed immagration.

>> No.7345294

>>7345222
https://pastebin.com/TzZC78cp

>> No.7345302

Yes, TRump is a terrible president and a terrible person. White supremacists just have really low standards.

>> No.7345346

>>7345278
No i know he won't, it was a joke.

>> No.7345347

I hope the stocks crash worse than 2008 to keep the fucktards at home next election. holy shit the USA is so far behind in infrastructure, education, and we spend money giving tax cuts to millionaire heirs who inherited everything, never worked a day in their life. Now the educated working class gets absolutely rekt with 40-50% tax while billionaires like Trump get 25% rate or lower, dispute his entire business being inherited.

>> No.7345357

>>7345243
Nah but i get triggered when Americans pretend they're country isn't a shit hole

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>>7345222

>> No.7345394

>>7345347
>forgets the 10+ trillion spent on israel's wars
really makes me think

>> No.7345436

>Give facts, ask to be proven wrong
>"MUH TRUMP, TRUMP IS GUD. BUT HILLARY! BUT OBAMA KEK!"

Nice job, Trumpos. You guys are fucking low grade human, really.

>> No.7345441

>>7345357
I live in cali and yes, it's a shithole. But this (((experiment))) won't be kosher for ever.

>> No.7345460

OP here is a hint (your fedora attitude and constant badgering like the MSM is why DRUmFP won and people like you make me want to vote for him next round) also the market goes up and down but wages are up that is what is important.

>> No.7345499

>>7345436
>>7345302
Hows the soy milk boys?

>> No.7345532

>>7345436
Facts, AKA we had a recovery after a recession so Obama is apparently jesus come back to life. His late year growth was tiny because his policies aren't actually good for the economy. GDP growth and stock market growth both rose immediately upon Trump being elected. However, you choose to instead ignore that and compare Trump's first year in a normal economy to Obama's first years in a recovery.

>> No.7345554

>>7345436
They get cranky when they have their bubbles popped.

>> No.7345579

>>7345347
>"Haha look I pull percentages from my ass"
>"Ur dumb :^)"

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7345581

Trump was a funny meme in 2016 but I think it's time we get a new one, don't you think?

Trump needs the boot.

>> No.7345583

>still living in Muttland
The dream is dead, cashed out my cryptogainz at 12k from 2k btc, and shitload more from ETH and LTC. Already moved to third-world country in Asia and am living like a king.

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>>7345222
>redditors actually think they are less cancerous than /pol/
pls kys

>> No.7345627

>>7345581
we have a new hilarious meme. It's called chainlink worth 10000$ end of decade

>> No.7345688

Man if we could just get another shill for the banks and the CIA in the oval office everything would be better! They totally don't want to fuck me in the ass and only give me enough handouts to get my vote!

>> No.7345694

>>7345581
I'd rather take Liberal scum like you into a gas chamber, where you're actually beaten to death very slowly over the course of weeks.

The gas chamber is just to make you think you may be relieved of your death at any moment. But you fucking won't be.

>> No.7345751

>>7343781
how much are you sharia blue commie faggots getting paid. I guarantee these types of anti-trump posts will stop immediately after business hours end in commiefornia

>> No.7345794

>>7344808
You fuckin idiot, Obama double the debt from 10tril to 20tril, and also ran the debt to gdp ratio from 62% to about 110%, you're an idiot, go neck yourself.

>> No.7345821

>>7343781
Your country has been fucked for a long time, retard. The fact that you are a brainlet is painfully obvious because you actually seem to believe that things were going to be any better under anybody else. Trump was stupid for taking credit for the market going up, but you're equally retarded for pretending he has somehow managed to ruin an economy which basically runs on war and IMF printed monopoly money. Go choke to death on a burger if you can still afford one, you fat little cunt.

>> No.7345833

>>7344410
I cant fucking read jpeg.

>> No.7345883

lmao this autism
hope you go broke faggot liberal nigger

>> No.7345914

seems the shareblue spics are shilling /biz/ now instead of /pol/.

>> No.7345922

>>7345794

Pro tip, that was Bush. Bush tax cuts and massive entitlements to old fucks who elected him. Don't forget two never ending wars.

>> No.7345923

>>7343781
>On top of all this, he plans to put us $1T+ further in debt
He plans to put the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT $1T+ further in debt. Good thing I don't identify as the Federal Government! He could raise it by $100 Trillion and a lot of us wouldn't care. If the whole USD banking scheme falls apart that is sort of the point of crypto.

>> No.7345939

>>7345237
>You can't be smart and also want to destroy your own life
You're right, we shouldve voted for Hillary and welcomed a few more million illegal immigrants and refugees. I'd much rather my tax cut go to niggers and spics

>> No.7345942

Republican Presidents are always bad for the economy. GOP voters are so brainwashed that they think the opposite is true. They all want to preach about fiscal responsibility but at the same time are always willing to get behind an expensive war or in today's climate, an absolutely retarded wall.

Trump inhereted a booming economy, and because every rich investor knew tax cuts were on the way, he got a nice bounce as well. But now his words and policies outside of tax reform will begin to reflect on the market. And if you think the words coming out of this maniac's mouth will inspire confidence in smart investors, you're fucking retarded

>> No.7345986

>>7345942
pajeet

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>>7343781

>> No.7345998

>>7344273
He’s an old boomer with dimentia who gets his world view from Fox News. That gave him appeal to the other Fox News loving seniors and the uneducated conservatives across the country but it did not prepare him for this job.

>> No.7346003

>>7345942
>le conservative war maymay
>the only alternative to blumpf was madame shoot down russian planes over syria secretary clinton

>> No.7346012

Say "Hello!" to your future president /biz/.

>Running against the beta Ted Cruz, a man who allowed another man to insult his wife on national television and didn't even challenge said man to a duel.
>From the alpha male state of Texas
>Visiting every county in Texas, loves his constituents
>Musician, played in a band with the lead singer of At the Drive in and Mars Volta
>Into Punk Rock, not Kid Rock
>Has a nice, loving family.
>Started a technology company
>Enjoys cannabis

>> No.7346044

>>7344356
>Obama had initial high growth because we were coming out of a recession,

Were you not alive for this or is your memory this bad? The recession hit right at the start of his term.

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>>7346012

It's me!

>> No.7346073

>>7345163
Wow anon? What is your problem? Are your FANG bags getting heavy?

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>>7345362

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>>7346003
>madame shoot down russian planes over syria secretary clinton

>le your an idiot - she very clearly said we shouldn't go about shooting down russian planes

>> No.7346218

>>7345922
Lol no
Bush policies had an impact, but it's completely incorrect to say Obama didn't have a solid impact.
Which isn't to say it's necessarily bad, as you need debt financed government spending to help get the economy out of a recession.

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>>7346155
>le enforcing a no fly zone but just letting russians fly all over it because uhhhhhhhhh
>also le enforcing a no fly zone without actually putting boots on the ground and just using black magic or some shit

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7346277

>>7345694

>implying I'm liberal
>implying the president isn't buddy buddy with the liberal elites and it was all a big scheme and you morons got played.

I want a nice, wholesome christian man in the white house again. Preferably one with a dog, at least 1 respectable boy, and enjoys hunting, fishing, the outdoors, and exercise.

When are we getting another FDR?

>> No.7346330

>>7346218
> as you need debt financed government spending to help get the economy out of a recession and into a depression
fixed

>> No.7346333

>>7346155
It's funny because she flat out said she wanted a no fly zone in Syria, which generals are positive would turn the conflict into a full on war

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7346369

>>7344163
>my country

>> No.7346518

>>7343781
>free fall
This is literally a healthy and necessary correction after an absurd bull run. We're still up on the year you fucking degenerate

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>>7344273
>is there a single person alive right now with any kind of business sense who would call Trump a succesful investor/businessman?

I do know a few pretty smart business people who liked trump but it was more of the fact they didn't really know much about him or how he got his wealth - they sort of believed he was a self made billionaire because no one in their circles ( other rich people who watch fox news) ever really challenged that view. Upon talking to this class of people, they wouldn't believe he could be so famous as he is if he was just a big con-artist, but in the end they felt even if he was a scammer, he would cut their taxes and cut regulation so they really didn't care - all these types of people care about is making more money and not having their precious tax dollars going to lazy blacks

More generally I found people who think they have business sense but who are fucking scam artists or con-artists themselves thought Trump was an amazing businessman. I have a few of these types in my family - people who have a long history of fucking over their workers and contractors.

>> No.7346684

>>7346218

Thing is Obama only added debt through the stimulus. Which was only to keep the bottom from falling out after a crash caused by poor regulation of the financial industry. That of course can be squarely blamed on republicans.

Besides the stimulus Obama actually increases spending the least of any modern president. Personally I don't even like Obama's monetary policy. But Trump has essentially the exact same policy. That is the funny think, most things conservatives used to absolute hate and couldn't stop talking about, the debt and QE, Trump is worse than Obama.

The GOP tax plan assumes 5% GDP growth... that is a fucking bad joke.

>> No.7346688

Trump is the worst thing to happen to the GOP. Republicans used to be fiscally conservative, Christian, and respectable. Now the party is run by a retarded clown who cares more about dick jokes on twitter than the economy. Fuck the SJWs but fuck the Trump cult harder.
>le God Emperor ! 4D chess !! XD yes Daddy Trump !!! Harder !!!!!

>> No.7346726

>>7345922
Pro dick more like it, nope, Obama pumped trillions into the economy, fake gains, we're paying for it now. Try to be a bit more serious or even rational when making statements, I know it's hard since you're trying to paint Obama in a good light and you don't have much to work with.

>> No.7346879

>>7344356
Ha. Takes for granted Obama got is out of the biggest financial crisis since depression.

>> No.7346903

>>7346726

How is that even an argument when Trump has the literal exact same policy on QE as Obama? Personally, I think there has been way to much QE, but Trump isn't fixing that, he's making it worse. The only think republicans have done in a year is give millionaires a tax cut, and blown the debt up another $5-10 trillion. If you think Obama racked up the debt and printed money, then you must have to hate Trump and Bush even more.

>> No.7346985
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7346985

>>7345279
well for one we have plenty of enemies in the world who would like to knock us down a few pegs - not all wars are fought with bombs and guns.

Having a clown for a president, where all other nations know he is an idiot, emboldens our enemies and makes our allies rethink who they should really be in bed with.

>> No.7347095
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7347095

>>7345394
>forgets the 10+ trillion spent on israel's wars
forgets it was Republican's who started these wars

really makes *me* think

>> No.7347124

>>7346726
THIS TRUMPO PREFERS THE BANKS DISAPPEAR AND WE ENTER A LITERAL DEPRESSION WHERE HIS PARENTS LOSE ALL OF THEIR MONEY AND HE GROWS UP IN THE STREETS.

CHILDREN THAT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ECONOMICS 101, KIDS. PAY ATTENTION HERE.

NEXT!!!

>> No.7347158

>>7346985
>nerdy kid gets lucky that his internet point collection turns valuable, proclaims himself genius

>> No.7347178

>>7346518
IT HAS BEEN TWO DAYS, WORST DROP IN 20 YEARS. GIVE IT TIME, TRUMPO. YOU'LL SEE.

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7347217

>>7345460
>but wages are up that is what is important
I'm all for higher wages, but we all know there aren't more "quality" jobs - these a shit tier McBuger jobs which are paying higher - so what's that mean?

>inflation

>all those dollars that kept being printed since 2008 crash

>sell sell sell sell

>> No.7347268

>>7345923
LOL THIS GUY THINKS A COUNTRY RUN BY A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT IS CONTINUOUSLY IN DEBT DOESN'T AFFECT HIS PURCHASING POWER.

FUCKING TRUMPOS PROVE TO BE LITERALLY RETARDED. HOW LOW CAN AN IQ ACTUALLY GO?

NEXT

>> No.7347318

>>7346688
>Republicans used to be fiscally conservative, Christian, and respectable
When? In the 19th century?

>> No.7347350

>>7347124
>>7347178
>>7347268
retard

>> No.7347383

>>7345460
YOUR BOY TRUMP WANTS TO LOWER THE MINIMUM WAGE. OK MR. "WAGES ARE UP"?

WAGES ARE UP BC OBAMA ERA POLICIES AND DEMOCRATIC LIBERAL FAG POLICIES HAVE INCREASED MINIMUM WAGE DRAMATICALLY IN THE MOST POPULATED AREAS OF OUR NATION.

YOU'RE LITERALLY BRAGGING ABOUT SHIT OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, AND THEN BEING PRO TRUMP.

FUCKING KYS.

NEXT.

>> No.7347392

>>7347350
Pajeet, actually. Same thing though I suppose.

>> No.7347395
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7347395

>>7346277

>When are we getting another FDR?

Soon.

>> No.7347424

>>7347350
GOOD ONE. AN ENTIRE THREAD OF TRUMPOS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO OFFER ONE SINGLE FUCKING FACT ABOUT WHY HE'S NOT A SHIT PRESIDENT.

You guys really are clowns, the lot of you. Part of me actually wants you to get what's coming to you. The other part is aggravated it has to happen to me also. Fuck you low IQ clowns.

>> No.7347437

>>7347424
retard

>> No.7347463

>>7346985
>>7347158
also just noticed that since the article was released on january 26, he's no longer a millionaire. does that mean he has to go back to school?

>> No.7347475

>>7347437
TRUMPO STRIKES AGAIN WITH THE LOW IQ COMMENTARY. HERE HE IS, FOLKS. THE AVERAGE TRUMP SUPPORTER, BRAINLESS AS A FUCKING FISH.

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7347497

>>7346333
there is a video of her clearly saying you can't just go shoot down a russian airplane because it flies into a no fly zone - kinda hard to narrow down the search via google and I don't really feel like putting too much effort into sourcing it - it will change nothing

>> No.7347529

btw buy bitcoin right now for the next wave up

>> No.7347622

>>7347395
He's likely too old to run again, he would be president right now if Hillary didn't cheat in the primary.

>> No.7347626

>>7347475
actually i wrote in bernie

>> No.7347636

Wow this thread is embarrassing for the Trumpfags.

Facts>Feelings

>> No.7347696

>>7347626
YEA YOU WROTE IN FOR SOMEONE WHO WASN'T EVEN A FUCKING CANDIDATE. GOOD JOB. WHAT ARE YOU, 12?

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7347757

>>7343781
>trump gets elected
>federal reserve rate skyrockets
Really gets the noggin joggin

>> No.7347765

>>7347626
This fucking guy doesn't even understand how elections work. He thinks he voted for Bernie Sanders.

Nice fucking larp, Trumpo.

>> No.7347798

>>7347696
>>7347765
stay mad poorfag

>> No.7347891

>>7347798
ANOTHER LOW IQ COMMENTARY FROM YOUR AVERAGE TRUMP BRAINFISH. HERE IS THE BEST DEFENSE TRUMP SUPPORTS HAVE FOR THEIR "PRESIDENT":

>stay mad poorfag

WOW, WHAT A QUALIFIED CANDIDATE. SUCH GREAT THINGS ACCOMPLISHED IN ALMOST NO TIME AT ALL.

>> No.7347960

@7347891
lol

>> No.7348044

Yah fuck DRUMPF! got em boys.
Obama was definitely the BEST president of all time. I mean, I couldn't even name a single one of his good economy producing policies but now us faggots can get married, so HAH CHECKMATE DRUMPF

>> No.7348165

>>7348044
Maybe because you're a fucking child. I bet you're not older than 22 if you can't name even a single policy Obama had that benefited the economy.

OR conversely you are ACTUALLY FUCKING RETARDED.

https://www.thebalance.com/what-has-obama-done-11-major-accomplishments-3306158

Fucking Trumpos with constant retardation in the comments, folks. THIS GUY THINKS OBAMA HAD NO ECONOMICALLY BENEFICIAL POLICIES.

LOLOLOLOLOL MY FUCKING SIDES!!!!! HOW CAN YOU ACTUALLY BE THIS DUMB?

>> No.7348224

>>7347960
Go back to Twitter, fucking Trumpo.

>> No.7348433

>>7345078
Comparing overall unemployment to "black" *cough "unemployment"
Thanks for the chuckle

>> No.7348560

>>7348433
I wasn't the one who did that you fucking retard, it was your trump friend. Learn to use 4chan you fucking halfbrain.

Holy shit trumpos are so fucking dumb it's enraging.

>> No.7348572

>>7344273
>I mean the man inherited an empire and hasn't beaten the index even once afaik.
Didn't the analysts say that he would have had $6 Billion more in net worth if he simply invested his earnings in the stock market?

>> No.7348643

Alright you fucking trump losers. I've had some fun in here putting you all in your place but it's time to depart.

Thanks for proving to me YET AGAIN that people who support Trump are at the lowest end of the IQ totem pole, supporting a candidate on pure emotion vs. facts and data. The epitome of the ugly American. Congrats, you fucked us all.

At least at the end of the day I'll know with absolute certainty I am better than you.

>> No.7348679

>>7348165
I'm 28 nearly 29 and the Obama years are literally my example of absolute failure the world over. No one was doing good this past 10 years, no one. It's all a sham.

Obama did nothing but force prop up a failed system for his kike friends. My town in Australia's main street is a ghost town of closed stores and businesses. The world has suffered a major constant economic downturn regardless of what market pundits say. Real value doesn't exist.

>> No.7348803

>>7344779
The idea is to wait for the slackjaws to finally awake from their stupor. Generally people in the situation they have been in are the last to see the shit storm, but they generally matter the most.

It's natural regardless of the civilization but each time we go through it stuff like tech improves, increasing our chances of dodging complete disaster. Maybe we got it this time around

>> No.7349090

>>7348643
>Thanks for proving to me YET AGAIN that people who support Trump are at the lowest end of the IQ totem pole
>At least at the end of the day I'll know with absolute certainty I am better than you.
t. 91 IQ spic

>> No.7349110

IT WAS HER TURN, holy fuck OP is still blasted lmao

>> No.7349370

>>7345751
yes, anybody that you disagree with is automatically a paid shill.

>> No.7349429

>>7348643
fucking hell please kill yourself. Completely regardless of this debate you're a fucking 10 year old.

>> No.7349496

>>7348679
>australian abo crying for his retarded town
Go get dicked by an emu

>> No.7349585

>>7344163
Mexico?

>> No.7349674

>>7343781
Don't expect asswipes to stop their worship of (((President Donald J. Trump))). It's just like HODLers, they are too far gone.

>> No.7349724

>>7346879
All Obama did was prop-up the whole rotten edifice of the American economy, he did absolutely nothing to address the systemic issues of the economy. All he did was postpone a total crash (making the crash worse by subsidizing unprofitable companies and industries that had already failed in 2008).

I can tell you are a recent reddit transplant, kill yourself.

>> No.7349788

>>7346903
What the fuck you talking about same QE policy? Obama had record LOW RATES faggot, and was pumping stimulus after the 1st month in office into the economy, in 8yrs it ended up costing trillions, hence why the debt went from 10tril to 20tril. This is sharia blue talking points, no way someone can be this stupid and come up with this on their own. Millionaires tax cuts, uh huh. Explain why the debt to gdp ratio went from 60% under bush to a whopping 115% under obama dickhead? I like how you tried to make Trump's economic policy out to be the same as Obama's when the truth couldn't be further, in other words, you're a fuckin retard and can't even bullshit correctly. Get fucked

>> No.7349810

>>7343781
Anon, your fucking stupid liberal ass needs to swallow that hard dick,
and STFU

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7349829

>>7343781

>> No.7349853

>>7347124
Fuckin retard, if you're going to bullshit, at least make it believable.

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7349957

Holy shit you're retarded. I don't think you can even see any effects of a president until years after his policies have been able to take effect. The fact that the republicans control both congress and the senate and still he cant get shit done shows how fucked up of a system Trump inherited. God bless Emperor Trump, long may he live.

>> No.7350056

>>7348572
And spent $0 which is impossible as you need food to survive.

>> No.7350069

>>7348560
Dueling should be legal, I would put a bullet in your soyboy head.

>> No.7350165

>>7343781
>all these alt right faggots calling lefties brainwashed
>all while drinking from spencers milkies

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7350242

>>7345207
Normies don't know about what's coming.

Check out cramer, he's losing his fucking mind right now.

>> No.7350284

>>7350165
Love how you try to paint it left and right, mention some guy Spencer. Stayed deluded partisan hack.

>> No.7350326

>>7344163
Get out of here with your cringey reddit bullshit

>> No.7350410

>>7344496
Back to your /leftypol/discord you ducking faggot

>> No.7350475

>>7350326
I think that is "Obama leaf" who always post misleading graph about how obama's economy was great and he always sucks obama's cock.

>> No.7350496

>>7350242
Wtf is XIV bro?

>> No.7350551

>>7350496
Inverse of VIX.

>> No.7350698

>>7350551
So VIX up 100%, XIV down 90%?

>> No.7350721

>>7350475
> Obama leaf
that guys is a pajeet who migrated to canada

>> No.7350724

>>7343781
Obama didn't do dick to pull the US out of a recession. Bush era policies is what jump started the US economy, and basically rescued the USA from the destruction of Clinton era policies which is what threw the US into a recession in the first place.

Obama economic polices were incompetent. Look at his credit reform and tire tarrifs just to see how inept his administration was.

>> No.7350737

>>7350698
And that's when people realized it probably wasn't a great idea to invert the VIX.

>> No.7350911

>>7350698
No, VIX doubles, XIV halves.
VIX goes to infinity, XIV goes to zero
XIV... basically went to zero in after hours

>> No.7351048

>>7344361
Geez your head is so far up Obama’s pussy. No one can prove anyone wrong if they are blindly in love with their party you fucking sheep.

>> No.7351261

>>7343781
>billions in stimulus saved the economy

This is an economically illiterate opinion...

>> No.7351395

First non jew to chair the fed reserve, market crashes. Hmmm pure (((coincidence)))

>> No.7351489

>>7344587
but if America splits up how will California pay for the welfare of all the poor southern states that hate California?

I mean after Texas inevitably gets sick of them and forms its own country

>> No.7351602

>>7343781
>Trump has nothing to point to
The tax bill literally not figuratively benefited everyone. Everyone gets to keep more of their earned income and everyone now has a higher standard deduction.

Prove me wrong.

>> No.7351721

>>7351489
>California pays for all the southern welfare.
Well we know who doesn't understand taxes..

>> No.7351797

>>7351602
>Let's increase spending while cutting taxes!
What a huge win

>> No.7351858

>>7345062
Argument after argument you make are logical fallacies and it's just embarassing. I'd stop

>> No.7351952

>>7351797
Didn't prove me wrong.

>> No.7352033

>>7345166
I'm actually hoping this will happen. Tired of debating.

>> No.7352143

>>7348643
killed it amigo

>> No.7352216

>>7344163
>Trump is ruining the country by not letting in millions of illiterate immigrants
>Trump is ruining the country because he is business friendly
>Trump is ruining the country because he loves women and grabs them by the pussy

Literally, nothing he's done would result in a crash. This is entirely cyclical. Obama was lucky to come into power at a point where the economy could only improve. He's stifled development in many ways yet gets praised for the economy... somehow.

I can't think of a single pro-business move Obama made, besides the TPP.

>> No.7352359

>>7347757
Also this. Obama benefited from rock-bottom rates from the FED. The moment a Republican got into power they raised rates.

>> No.7352382

>>7352143
Explain how Obama's stimulus bill saved the economy. I'll wait. Unless you can explain how Obama actually saved the economy in some way then your just a dick sucking faggot. Not even a Trump supporter, just not a retard.

>> No.7352573

>>7351602
>The tax bill literally not figuratively benefited everyone.
>Prove me wrong.
it's almost like all those benefits will be offset by the costs of healthcare rising and various other shit

>> No.7352696

>>7344273
He got a 1 million loan and transformed it into his empire.

You (and a good part of the people complaining) got a 300k loan and all you have to show is a shitty liberal arts degree

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7352941

>>7343781
>unemployment rate went down at unprecedented levels
Wrong
>(very arguable he can or should take any credit for this) has been the stock market which is now in free fall
Very arguable that this is Obama's fault since liberals have been arguing that it's been his economy for the past year