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725959 No.725959 [Reply] [Original]

You were told this would happen.

You were told about the warren buffet indicator.

You were told about an insanely high average market P/E.

You were warned by almost every publicly traded company, in their last earnings report, that they were guiding lower on earnings for the next 2 quarters.

It's happening.

Why aren't you out yet?

>> No.725960
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725960

How many times do you have to be told /biz?

>> No.725968
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725968

>>725959
>implying im not out
>imlplying i havent invested all my value in gold/silver and rare pepes
>gonna ride this one out pirate style

>> No.725971

>>725959

Dow is down 230

In other words, it's friday.

Used to be up and down like this nearly every day.

I agree that there are concerning trends, but that doesn't mean the sky is falling..... yet.

>> No.725973

>>725968
>rare pepes

Tell me more pirate lord! What is this plunderiffic booty of yore?

Also how can you tell gold and silver will be good? I don't really see any indication of strong inflation on the way.

>> No.725979
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725979

>>725973
Rare pepes is a fantastic may may. I own more than 28k extreme rare and semi rares pepes with a total worth of 5k or more.

Silver and gold will be good when the stock market crash and the hole banking industry spiral out of control

>> No.725986

>>725979

Oh man. I really, really, really like this investing advice.

Mind if I save a copy?

Silver and Gold.. so you are thinking flight to safety more than inflation worries.. I guess I could understand that...

>> No.725994

Good, I'm hoping we get a nice correction. I've got a lot of cash waiting to be put to use.

>> No.725995

>>725994

I think with earnings falling for 2 quarters, and the fed set to raise rates... there is a very good chance that we will see more than just a correction.

IMO we could easily see another recession. The market is cyclical and it's about time.

>> No.726009

>>725994

It's proven time and time again that waiting for dips doesn't result in larger gains.

>> No.726014

>>726009
lol wtf are you talking about

>> No.726026

>>725994
Implying hyperinflation doesn't kick in simultaneously..

>> No.726030

All this means is that Stocks are on sale.

Buy now or you'll have to wait till they go on sale again

>> No.726034

>>726030
Genius

>> No.726035

>>726030
>1% off everything in the store!
go home you're drunk

>> No.726050

>>726035

Fine, then you'll just have to wait for the buy one get one free sale coming soon

>> No.726062

>>726050

I prefer bogo to bogoho. (buy one get one half off) So I think I will wait for the bottom.

thinking about riding it out pirate style like my may may friend.

>> No.726070

>>726009
That's fine, cash is only 15% of my total portfolio. It helps me sleep at night. Always have to keep some powder dry.

>> No.726083

>>726070

You're doing it all wrong.

I'm 100% cash. How you gonna buy low, if you already holding son?

>> No.726097

>>726083
Because I can't predict the future, so I position accordingly.

>I'm 100% cash.
Who cares, you probably have a 5 figure zecco account.

>> No.726112

>>726097
>5 figure

He said, while waiting for his tax refund check which is his "15% cash position."

>> No.726113

>>726112
I had to pay a few dollars actually. Only financially retarded people give the government a free loan.

How much did you get back?

>> No.726135

Guys, I have about a million dollars in cash right now. How low do the markets need to be before I dump it all into some index funds? (I already have around 400k in various mutual funds)

>> No.726142

kek. Markets are still UP year-to-date. You guys are morons,

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726148

>>725959
>le sell in may and go away face

>> No.726155

>coinciding news of Chinese deregulation of shorting and probable Greek default
The S&P dips 1.5%

I'd say the market is looking pretty robust if news of this magnitude doesn't shake up the market more than what you'd see on any other bad, but ordinary day

>> No.726163

>>725959
>stock market goes up
>speculative bubble I can't believe these sheeple don't they remember 08?
>stock market goes down
>my entire thesis has been validated, the bubble is popping, surely the market will now crash

>> No.726165

>>726113

I couldn't figure out my taxes this year as with all the worksheets and schedules and odd investments I am into.. it was just too much with the business and the schedule for writing off depreciating assets. I also just couldn't figure out my overseas holdings and total taxable liabilities.

I sent the IRS an extension request with a check for 10,000... with a note that said their shit is too complicated and awful retarded and that I hadn't had time to interview and hire a qualified CPA yet this year. (my word choice was much more diplomatic and conciliatory of course, but i meant what i said)

I have no idea what the final outcome will be.. but if it was like previous years.. the IRS will keep my 10k and ask me for quite a bit more.

We'll be settled up by the middle of summer I am sure.

>iamokwiththis.jpg

>> No.726188

>>725959
Less than 2% losses isnt a happening sport

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>>726188
>yfw the entire 2008 debacle happened in increments of about 200 points a day.
>yfw dow down 250 points

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726209

To misquote Crazy Horse...

... today is a good day to BUY

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>>725959

Well folks, we have our final numbers.

Dow down 275 points on good consumer sentiment.

Good news, down market.

Keep telling yourself it's not happening.

Buy and hold! Buy and hold!!!!

>> No.726251

>>725959
actually the exact date was given
>>726246

time to shit your pants /biz/

>> No.726254

>>726239

Dax is down almost 3% on higher German growth forecasts. What the fuck is going on.

>> No.726262

>>726251
lol
>spouting scary stories to sell products

works like a charm

>> No.726267

>>726142
Actually not anymore. Not the DJA, at least.
Remember when I said to raise cash? Or that time I was called crazy for talking about an oncoming correction? When the Fed raises rates in June on top of all of this Europe stuff, it's over.

Speaking of Europe, there was a guy on CNBC in Germany or England (not sure) that called for a correction in the DAX today. He was extremely confident and showed no sign of doubt. They talked to him for a while. Someone else can probably find the clip, but Europe correcting is why our market went down today, no other reason.

>> No.726273

>2015
>people still attempting to time the market

>> No.726377

>>726273
>2015
>People still being so unskilled they can't time the market.

>> No.726403

>>726377
Ok sport

>> No.726410

>>726267
You in all cash? Holy shit you're stupid. Markets are positive for the year.

>> No.726453

>>726410
Who said I was all in cash? I'm at about 15% right now, want more. Markets are NOT positive for the year.

>> No.726461

>>726410

Markets are not positive for the year and 100% will be at least 15% negative by end of May - probably earlier with how earnings season and world events are going.

>> No.726464

>>726453
My mistake, actually. In 3.5 months the DJIA is up .02% and the SPX is up 1.08%. Hey, if you add them together that's 1.10%! So bullish!

>> No.726474

>>726453
>>726461
So much retarded.
>>726464
Retarded but honest.

P.S. There are other markets out there too. Some of them aren't even in America! Some of them aren't even stocks!

>> No.726478

>>725995
>another recession

if the stock market crashes, that doesn't mean there will be a recession. It takes more then one market to fall. Such as job market, or real estate market. Huge correction.. most likely, another recession within the next couple years probably not

>> No.726493

>>726474
And those markets are exactly what held us back today.

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000371644

Daily indexes:
FTSE 100: -.093%
DAX: -2.58%
CAC 40: -1.55%
Nikkei 225: -1.16%
Hang Seng: -0.31%
Shanghai: +2.20%
Dow: -1.54%
S&P 500: -1.13%
Nasdaw: -1.52%

One positive market out of all the major stock markets. Emerging markets can be attractive right now, but they aren't for the average investor. Now do your homework.

>> No.726499

Why don't they just let the QE run forever? it seemed to fix everything last time. Why contain it?

>> No.726508

>>726493
Are you seriously posting 1-day results for the major indices? GTFO biz child.

>> No.726518

>>726508
Put me on ignore and while you're at it ignore global events as well. And earnings. And the Fed. If you don't keep up you'll be left behind.

>> No.726550
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726550

>>726251
>>726262
ikr
shoo shoo shill

>> No.726556

>>726550
>All of the dates in the results below
>April 18th, 2015
>June 23rd, 2015
>March 26th, 2015
>August 17th, 2015
>June 21, 2015

Hey, you never know, maybe one will be right!

>> No.726568

>>725959

Fed's Bullard has said fed will launch QE4 if stock falls, so i have no choice but to stay in the market

>> No.726574

>>725959

last year, fed's bullard came out to talk up the market after it fell 10%, this seem to signal that the fed will do whatever it takes to keep the market afloat

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726591

>TFW 26, just paid off student loans, saving up for emergency fund + vanguard account
>MFW savings will be complete in late June
>MFW all these predictions of S&P 500 crashing by late June

What a time to be alive.

>> No.726592

>>725959
shut the fuck up

>> No.726636

>>726568
>>726574
> if the stock market ever goes down the fed will promise more QE and it will go back up again

Bear market never
Bull market forever

>> No.726645

>>726636
Bear or Bull, come late June I'm jumping onto this bitch balls-first and holding on for the ride.

>> No.726657

Jesus, every other week "omg it's the correction!" Watch the fed man, there will be literally no doubt when its happening

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726662

>Not having a well-diversified portfolio that matches your needs and tolerance for risk and remaining fully invested at all times
It's like you don't even want to make money.
All of my investments are still well on the positive side for the year anyway.

>> No.726670

>>726662
>all of my investments are positive
you arent diversified...

>> No.726680

>>726662

>2015
>mutual funds

>> No.726768

>>726670
he is diversified, what would you imply he should add more?

>> No.726779

>>726670
That's 6 sets of mutual funds and ETFs, he's spread out around ~2,000 entities. Diversified as fuck.

>> No.726794

>>726662
Change VNQ for O (outperforms, yields higher, no fees) and I like BND but I prefer BLV (also a Vanguard fund, about 50/50 government/corporate)

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>>726794
>I like BND but I prefer BLV
So you think a fund with an average TTM of 7.5 years is comparable to a fund with an average TTM of 24.3 years?

>Change VNQ for O (outperforms
Why would you lie on the internet?

>> No.726834

>>725959

why would I want out? If/when the market crashes, stock will be dirt cheap to buy

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726847

ez

>> No.727122

>>726827
Dividend yield is higher, so it does, and that is before fees.

>> No.727133

>>725979
can't tell if this is a meme or people actually think this will happen

>> No.727138

>>726591
>is sure market will crash
>doesn't wait to pay off loans until after the Fed has to double the money supply again

>> No.727481

>>725959
This is not crash yet. No nudge i.e fall of a big corporate or esp. Fin. Institution.

My recommendation? Zero beta L/S strategies. Hold the collateral in blue chip corporate bonds

>> No.727487

>>726499
Inflation you dumb fuck

>> No.727530

>>727481
>fall of a big corporate

what is "the shale oil bust" alex?
what is "grexit" alex?


>>727487
>inflation

what is "m2 money velocity" alex?

>>726478
>It takes more then one market to fall

what is "economic recession in both asia and europe" alex?


It's habbeding right now folks.

>> No.727583

>>726591
So just wait for the crash and then invest. Duh.

>> No.727587

>>726009
No, it's memed time and time again. I've never seen a source on this. Buy low, sell high. It's not that God-damned hard if you know how to take the long view. If you weren't all in by 2010, and you're not half way out by now, then what are you doing?

>> No.727594

Every 2 weeks on /biz/ some idiot posts this thread

You guys just like doomsaying

>> No.727605

>>727530
What is shutthefuckup alex?

What are you trying to say, anyway?

I already told you that I would not currently have any long only position recommended, but looking for a market neutral approach. What do you want me to say, hold everything in short?

>> No.727643

>>727594
It's basically "a broken clock is right twice a day"

Faggots try to justify the negative real rate of return on their shitty savings accounts and CDs

Also if you consider a 2% drop in major indexes a "crash" you need to get the fuck off this board