>2015 >not becoming a teacher Good pay, great benefits, excellent working conditions, and most of your coworkers are female. Oh, unless you live in America, that is. :^)

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Anonymous Sun, Apr 12, 2015 21:07:12 No.720751 [Reply] [Original]

>2015
>not becoming a teacher

Good pay, great benefits, excellent working conditions, and most of your coworkers are female.

Oh, unless you live in America, that is. :^)

>>	Anonymous Sun, Apr 12, 2015 21:14:25 No.720760 Goddamit, I am thinking about doing that, why shouldn't I according to you?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Apr 12, 2015 21:14:29 No.720761 >>720751 >most of your coworkers are female. This is not a benefit.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Apr 12, 2015 21:17:13 No.720765 >>720751 >Wanting to date coworkers Good luck freshmen

>>	Anonymous Sun, Apr 12, 2015 21:18:08 No.720767 >>720751 >unless you in America That's what is currently deterring me from going down that route.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Apr 12, 2015 21:20:02 No.720769 Have fun finding a job in one of the most competitive fields. Have fun having to beg for government handouts and someone else getting the job over you only because they've been there long.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Apr 12, 2015 21:21:24 No.720771 File: 22 KB, 261x398, 1428646401970.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>720767 Teachers make good compared to the service industry which comprises something like 40% jobs in the country.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Apr 12, 2015 21:28:49 No.720781 Our teachers roll in cash and paid time off. Yet they still go on strike every 5 years. Easy life in Canada

>>	Anonymous Sun, Apr 12, 2015 21:42:27 No.720792 >>720781 can burgers teach in Canada? I won't protest.

Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 01:51:41 No.721028

>>720751
Work public school.
Leave work at 3.30 on the dot or earlier
Tutor rich kids from private schools for $60-100/hr.
Easy tutoring as word of mouth means you see kids who are all in the same class = same homework questions for each kid.

Be made delicious home made dinners and dessert by stay at home mums trying to compete with other moms for who is the favorite.

Invest all into property and other investments.

Go out every Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun nights

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 02:16:59 No.721046 >>721028 >work shit job >waste days and nights on 4chan This is all but one of you. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 08:00:42 No.721169 >teacher >great pay Choose one

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 08:21:45 No.721176 >>720751 and you can fuck sexy students... Oh, unless you live in America

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 08:25:57 No.721178 >>720751 What do teachers get paid in europe?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 08:29:43 No.721183 >>721178 Nothing in Ireland. Really poor pay but you get three months off in the summer

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 08:39:21 No.721190 >>721178 they get a shit salary in Holland.

Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 09:27:00 No.721220

No man should ever take a job working with minors, as there will be always be a target on your back. People will always be suspicious of your motives. Even at the higher grades you are dealing with girls who know how easy it is for them to blackmail you, they can and do ruin male teacher's lives. Most teachers have rock-solid job security thanks to the unions, even the most incompetent teachers will simply get shuffled off the art department rather than fired, but as a male teacher all it takes is one wrong glance at 16 year old Sally Sue with the d-cups and your career is over, you wont be able to get a job tutoring for minimum wage.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 09:34:04 No.721229 >>721220 You really really don't know what you're talking about Sincerely, a male teacher.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 09:38:36 No.721235 >>721183 >>721190 Oh so it is bait

Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 09:48:51 No.721251

>>720751
My mother is a highschool teacher and is currently trying to break into administration. If she can she will go from making $40k a year to $60k, and pay will increase every year after. She could potentially end up in six figures depending on the jobs she goes after.

Anyway, I think teaching is probably attractive to recent grads. It's easy to get into and the pay is good for someone fresh out of college with few expenses. Also there's that paid time off.

From what my mother has told me though, it's very difficult to find a school district that will give a a shit about its teachers. Bigger school districts pay more, but they also use stupid policies and won't back up teachers on issues of discipline.

Smaller school districts on the other hand, while paying less, seem to be more enjoyable to work at. They usually have fewer discipline issues and don't enforce stupid policies like not being allowed to fail students.

Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 10:11:11 No.721274

>>721251
Murrican? 40k is not a lot of money, here in my province teachers start off at more than that, and it is a very hard profession to break into because of the union. They protect old teachers who are past their prime, new grads usually spend a few years trying to pick up substitute jobs while working part-time at coffee shops or whatever. The only way to get a full-time teaching job right out of school is if they are willing to teach in places where more experienced teachers aren't willing to go, like isolated, mostly native, communities where their students hate their guts because their white. Once they get in with the union they are set.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 10:12:11 No.721276 >>721274 And by more then that I mean more than 60k. I think a starting full-time teacher salary is around 65.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 10:13:04 No.721277 >>721229 Ever banged a student?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 11:26:40 No.721348 >>720751 >Teacher >Good pay >Sweden >Any type of teacher >good pay

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 11:28:58 No.721352 >>721274 I know 40k isn't a lot of money. A lot of it is because she works in a rural district that doesn't pay well. She could be making $55k working in other places, but that's about as much as you'll make as a teacher in my state.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 11:31:22 No.721354 >>721274 Also it's funny you mention substitute jobs. I've done that myself and always thought it was just an easy way to make cash but I've had people act like it was a big thing. I don't know why. I just tell the kids to be quiet and leave me alone.

Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 11:32:57 No.721358

>>721220
Worked as a teacher for a few years, never had complains or got treated as a pedo.

Some of the older students are hot but when I'm teaching I'm in "teacher mode" and don't even think about it and would never risk my career/life doing anything inappropriate.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 11:33:46 No.721360 File: 182 KB, 404x266, 1393329481928.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>721251 >>721274 >>721352 teachers who make 100+K per year..

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 11:35:21 No.721362 File: 58 KB, 576x1024, 1399645783665.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>720751 Teachers here, in Estonia, are getting less than the avarage.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 11:36:01 No.721365 >>721360 Whenever I said my mother could potentially make six figures I meant as an administrator, which is not a teacher. That means a vice principal, principal, curriculum development, superintendent, etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 11:42:10 No.721380 File: 37 KB, 528x494, 662811-simpsons_willie_with_arm_down_toilet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>721365 kek 100K as an administator. I wonder have much superintendent willy earns..

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 11:43:31 No.721381 >>721380 Is this low grade trolling? It must be.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 12:36:11 No.721438 >>720792 You won't get in. Union is too strong and 14% of grads with a masters in education can even get substitute work. The new grads I know who found work are teaching alcoholic native 8 year olds near the arctic circle

Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 13:05:23 No.721463

>>721438
I don't understand why anyone with no experience would get a masters degree in a professional (non-academia) area. It makes sense to get an masters of education if you have 10 years experience and want to go into administration, but if you're just starting out that masters degree wont mean fuck all to the union gatekeepers.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 17:23:27 No.721735 >>720751 My mother has been a teacher for 35 years and recently became assistant principle at 52. She makes 10k more than I do at 22 with a finance degree in a entry level training position. Don't become a teacher, retards

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 17:29:46 No.721739 >>721735 It's not just about money anon. O wait it is continue.

Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 22:57:47 No.722001

Since there are some teachers in this thread, I was looking into going into teaching, preferably 6-8 Social Studies. I'm studying Economics in school now, and can easily transfer my credits towards the Teacher's Program at my school. Or should I just keep with my program now, and then do a post baccalaureate or something like that afterwards?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 23:14:30 No.722008 >>722001 Did you not read the thread? Call center reps make more than teachers

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 23:36:18 No.722029 >>722008 I care about more than just money. >being on /biz/ >not caring about money har har I think there's more to life than becoming a millionaire, and I think teaching is a good option for me to actually help people.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 23:40:55 No.722032 >>721362 That statement literally means nothing? If all teachers are earning below the "Average" Doesn't that mean they are making the "Average" as they are all making around the same pay?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Apr 13, 2015 23:41:51 No.722033 File: 1.26 MB, 1029x800, 1408387407613.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>720751 >thinking its easy to get a job as a teacher, cop, or firefighter >2015

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 04:31:53 No.722171 >>721438 So they're rolling in cash and living the life or they're teaching alcoholic kids on ice floes? Which is it?

Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 04:33:43 No.722172

Any job you got for the state is good in Europe.
If you have any degree and work he same job as private sector, you get 20-50% bigger paycheck and also you work less, more off time etc.

I hope one day we cut all welfare etc. so only the fittest will survive.

Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 05:08:37 No.722183

>>722032
Not necessarily. Thebulk of the teachers (90%) could be below the average, because you could have the other 10% making sucha large amount that they pull the (mean) average up. In this case you would want to look more at the median wage number as being indicative of the 'average', because wage distributions for many things actually are right skewed by high wage earners within data sets.

Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 05:23:00 No.722186

>>721178
Mum gets paid 2000€/month and it's near the end of her career as a high school teacher.
Teacher is NOT a high paying job in France.

The only benefit of being a teacher is the cultural advantage. By that I mean teacher's children do as well in school as children of engineers, doctors and other wealthy jobs.
So if you're into trans-generational social climbing and you don't feel like you can make it, I guess you can become a teacher and hope your kids make it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 05:23:36 No.722187 File: 138 KB, 300x302, greeks_lazy_big2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>722172 kek no. only in lazy countries like France or Greece

Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 05:24:48 No.722189

>>721028
Elementary school maybe, and depending what grade you teach in high school, you may have to work those 2 or 3 extra hours on your own time. But I do agree teachers do bitch a lot(Canada) for what they do get compensated for, and really they knew what they were getting themselves into. Honestly though, where do they think the pay raises would come from, for people with masters degrees, they're not good at economics or budgeting for that matter

>Inb4 raise taxes
Fuck you, you know how fucking socialist it's here in my country? You know how socialistic my country is even though it's being run by the most conservative party of them all? FUUUUUUUCCCCKK

Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 10:17:43 No.722341

>>721358
>"teacher mode"
iktfb

>tfw you "tm" over a subject
>tfw you tell a person who keeps butting in on someone else "Excuse me, is this your story or Anon's? ... Thank you"

It's weird, it''s like it grants me immunity to hotness and the ability to be outgoing and socially in control.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 10:31:48 No.722352 In Australia teachers get 14 paid weeks off a year.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 18:50:42 No.722864 >>722352 12. 6 at xmas, 2 for each term break (3 of these) I am in an independent school and only get 11 (5 at xmas)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 19:43:12 No.722917 >>721028 There's no way you're A teacher Its a dogs life The kids are lovely but the rest of it will kill you. Say goodbye to your free time

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 19:46:03 No.722922 >>722917 My students arent lovely. And after dealing with shitheads all day tutoring is last thing on my mind... In Aus you can get about $25/30 per hour for tutoring

Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 19:51:51 No.722925

>>720751
Even in America it's not bad. I remember hearing this dumb bitch whine that she didn't get paid shit as an elementary art teacher... Just a mere 70k. Like what the fuck bitch, you have literally the easiest job in the world, and you complain about 70k/year?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 20:47:30 No.722979 >>722917 Horseshit. Teachers get a full-time salary for what many of us would consider part-time work. It's glorified babysitting.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 20:47:50 No.722981 >>720761 Agreed. All female workplaces suck dick. Particularly ones run by all female management.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 20:53:19 No.722991 >>721735 Yes but finance: > this kills the soul

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 20:56:20 No.722995 >>722341 Same. It's the feeling of responsibility that empowers. This is the foundation all great men have drawn upon mentally. Even Hugh Hefner I'm sure, somehow felt "responsible" to provide hot tits and asses to planet earth.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 20:57:20 No.722996 >>722352 Fuck i should have left this country long ago...

Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 21:22:53 No.723024

Aus, both parents are teachers. Primary school might be glorified babysitting (hell, looking at the "assessments" some education students actually submit...), but high school isn't.

After 20+ years of work, and taking on additional administrative roles, both make around 90-110k before tax. The amount of actual work required for that money is stupid though. You don't just clock off at 3:30 and that's it if you actually give a shit. You've got assessments/work to prepare/mark, and reports to write every semester. You end up doing more than the 6 hour school day.

Add that to often working with shitty kids (plus their equally shitty parents), and inadequate co-workers who only wanted to be teachers for the holidays, and you've really got to want to do job.

Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 21:45:38 No.723046

>>723024
Currently a teacher. Done both Primary and High. The reason the students are shit is because they aren't actually tested. Dont matter if you fail you go onto the next year. I teach yr 12s who cant do basic times tables.

If you are organised / efficient you can finish your day at 3pm. I do no work at home because reports/assessments/marking is done in time I have at school. Primary is different though as you dont nearly enough time off class to do it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 21:51:22 No.723052 >>723046 Have any of those 12th grade girls offered to suck your dick for higher grades?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 21:54:02 No.723053 >>723052 Negatory.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 22:01:54 No.723067 >>722979 gr8 b8 m8

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 22:31:41 No.723091 >>720751 >Easy >Generous Healthcare >Pension

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 22:34:33 No.723095 >>723067 >6 hours a day >3 months vacation I consider this part time.

Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 22:39:14 No.723099

>>723095
Grading homework and tests, parent teacher conferences, being required to stay after class whenever a student asks you to, etc.

Teaches put in an average of 8-9 hours. Granted, they bitch about it, but they put in 8 hours.

>3 months vacation
I accept it as a trade-off for their low salary cap.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 14, 2015 22:42:29 No.723102 >>723095 >>723099 The time off is needed, else children die.

Anonymous Wed, Apr 15, 2015 04:26:44 No.723383

>>722995
>Even Hugh Hefner I'm sure, somehow felt "responsible" to provide hot tits and asses to planet earth.
Bless.
>actually had a class about porn recently
>sadly was dictated by a rabid SJW
>thankfully she got shot down by "her" co-presenter who was an ex-sex worker with a sociology/criminology degree.
>mfw t&a for education

>>	Anonymous Wed, Apr 15, 2015 04:49:01 No.723388 >>721169 /thread

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