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6856910 No.6856910 [Reply] [Original]

>buy gold with bitcoin
>sell gold with cash
>avoid tax jew
Burgers not welcome itt.

>> No.6856933

>trading digital gold for real gold

>> No.6856970

how do you buy gold with btc??

>> No.6857035

>>6856910
>buy gold with bitcoin
>sell gold with cash
>have a bunch of untaxed cash you can't use, can't deposit into any banks, and can't make any large purchases with
But at least I have my tendies!

>> No.6857039

>>6856970
Goldbullion.com

>> No.6857069

>>6856910
yea and then get sent some gold plated nickel. lmao

>> No.6857076

>>6856910
The IRS will find the paper trail. You have to cash out your BTC somewhere - kraken, Gemini or coinbase...don’t you?

>> No.6857104

>>6857069
Nah they plate tungsten.

>> No.6857112

>>6857076
no dumbass u can send btc from an exchange straight to their website

>> No.6857117

>>6857076

>buy gold with bitcoin

dumbass.

>> No.6857119

>>6857035
Why would you tax bitcoin if you legitimately used it as a currency to buy gold?
>buying a laptop with bitcoin
>paying tax
>>6857076
Are you retarded? You buy gold with the bitcoin.

>> No.6857157

>>6857119
Ah. So your role-playing as shit-level stupid for your (you) tonight. Take it. I have plenty. I bought in when they were only a few sats.

>> No.6857174

Isn't that money laundering?

>> No.6857204

>>6857157
t. brainlet
>>6857174
How? You're literally just using a currency to buy a product.

>> No.6857269

where could you sell a shitload of gold bars for fair value

>> No.6857327
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6857327

>>6857269
>where could you sell a shitload of gold bars for fair value
wondering this myself. every shop seems to jew you

>buy at over spot price
>shop buys yours at under spot price

what the FUCK is this KIKERY?

>> No.6857329

If your portfolio is big enough just go to Geneva and have the mountain jews cash you out and set you up with a bank account.

>> No.6857341

>>6857174
Yeah, I’m a way it is...that’s what I’m trying to get at here but these guys think they’ll evade taxes.

>> No.6857415

>>6857327
>https://www.sharpspixley.com/sell-your-gold/
>Our buyback prices are from around 99% of the spot market value, assuming the bullion products are in good condition
Oh no, you'll pay whole <2% due to a spread.
>>6857329
Tax havens are for the millionaire-tier cash out.

>> No.6857443

>>6857174

If I buy a video game with cash from Walmart and then turn around and sell it to GameStop is that money laundering

>> No.6857450

>>6857327
There's a huge opportunity there for you, anon - open a store that buys and sells gold at spot. Never under. Never over.

>> No.6857464

>>6857269
A gold store

>> No.6857496

you can do that with this coin
HGT
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/hellogold/
thank me later anon

>> No.6857518

>>6857443
When GameStop would do those B2G1 sales on used games sometimes the trade in values of the three games would exceed the price. I'd bounce between 2 stores buying 3 games, trading them in, buying 3, trading them in. I'd also exploit price differences between GameStop and Walmart - buy low at GameStop, return unopened at Walmart for store credit.

>> No.6857553

>>6857518
The IRS is coming for you. Better pay your tax goy. Kek.

>> No.6857560

>>6857329
Nope
Fuckin germans and usa fucked our bank secret
They won't help you

>> No.6857724

>>6857496
Shit, I was going to buy this coin when it was 7cents. Then forgot about it while I was tethering up during the crash.

Looks like the big pump happened. Do you think it's still a good investment anon?

>> No.6857843

>>6856910
My plan is to buy up every used car on Craigslist that accepts ethereum, and then just resell the cars taking a small hit

>> No.6857938

>>6857843
>the state of burgers
For once I'm glad to be a eurofag.

>> No.6857999

>>6856970
vaultoro

>> No.6858235

Most countries will require you to have a car dealers license after selling X amount of cars a year.

>> No.6858261

>>6856933

Weve come full circle

>> No.6858278

So how would you buy land or property with all this money?

>> No.6858287

>>6857843
not a bad idea although its hard to sell a car that is not under your name. I have sold many cars like that though cause i work at a body shop and its easy

>> No.6858311

>>6857843
What if the taxman asks to see how have you been purchasing so many cars?

>> No.6858341

>>6858311
they wont know if you dont register the car. all you need is the signed title

>> No.6858351

>>6857843
that would leave a pretty heavy paper trail because you're signing over registrations each time

>> No.6858451

>>6858351
you dont need to register the car. as long as you have the signed title you can sell it to whoever

>> No.6858468

>>6858278
With cash? Duh.

>> No.6858514

>>6856910

>Hello mr. anon, it has come to our attention that you recently tried to sell several hundred thousand dollars worth of gold. We have a warrant to enter your house and seize all electronics under suspicion of illegal activities and ties to organized crime or terrorism

>> No.6858561

>>6856910
>using bitcoin to buy something is money laundering

>> No.6858637
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>>6858514
>cashing out several hundred thousand at once
>implying the gold dealer will give a shit about few hundred k sell
>implying what I described is not perfectly legal tax avoidance
I said burgers are not welcome. Fuck off you kike.

>> No.6858656

>>6858468
How do you get a title co to take cash that has no paper trail?

>> No.6858720

>>6858656
>buy property by depositing cash
>pay company for building my house
I'm not building a fucking mansion. I can buy a decent property in my capital for 50k and build a house for <100k. Then flip it for 50-100% profit, that I'll tax like a good goy.

>> No.6858766

>>6858720
So you dont live in USA.

>> No.6858801

>>6858766
What about
>Burgers not welcome itt.
seems unclear? I swear you burgers are worse than pajeets when it comes to tax-related discussions.

>> No.6858811

>>6858766
The first post said
>Burgers not welcome itt.
You fucking stupid burger

>> No.6858936

>>6858801
>>6858811
lol no one cares about your puny little country andrei.

>> No.6859007

Open businesses that only accept monero and its all over for the zog.

>> No.6859008

>>6858936
>burger can't into English
>desperately trying to save his face
Go suck taxman's dick, you fucking commie.

>> No.6859166

If you use bitcoin as a currency to buy gold and hold the gold, does that make you eligible to be caught by tax authorities?
What if you freely admit to buying gold with BTC?
They can't tax a BTC transaction. And they can't take some of that gold from you can they? Not unless you sell the gold

>> No.6859235

>>6859166
Would you pay capital gains tax if you bought a pack of cigarettes with BTC?

>> No.6859447

>>6857327
>selling your gold
hodl your godl dumbass
the kikes are running the dollar into the ground which makes gold value skyrocket

>> No.6859479

>>6859447
>dollar
Burgers out. We talking in € here.

>> No.6859488

>>6859235
Buying gold it is!

>> No.6859621

>>6859479
your currency won't be worth shit once america's currency isn't worth shit
who do you think keeps your country safe

>> No.6859709

>>6859621
Safe from whom? The dead skeleton that is Russia's military?
Also
>implying anyone would unironically hold fiat
>what is real estate

>> No.6859739

>>6859479
You can’t exclude burgers you fucking faggot. We run the world and invented everything you love.

>> No.6859751

>>6859709
safe from us dumbass
i'm coming for your boipussy

>> No.6859835

>>6859739
Then fix your government, you dumb commies. The founding fathers are spinning in their graves.
>>6859751
Be quick, else Tyrone or Sanchez will come for yours first.

>> No.6859885
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>>6859621
why are ameritards so dumb and delusional

>> No.6860056

>>6859835
>meanwhile England most common male name under 3 is mohammad.

>> No.6860117
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6860117

>>6860056
>England is Europe now

>> No.6860170

>>6860117
>england has never not been europe
the rest of you are so insignificant it's funny

>> No.6860323

>>6860170
Yet EU is a bigger economy than USA

>> No.6860337

>>6860117
>Germany will be nonwhite majority in less than 30 years.
Do I need to keep going?

>> No.6860360

>>6857174
>>6857443
yall are retarded
money laundering is washing or "laundering" "dirty" money (i.e. illgotten gains through drug trafficking, prostitution, gambling etc.) through a legitimate under the guise of sales/revenue that was generated by the business

>> No.6860439

>>6857035
>have a bunch of untaxed cash you can't use, can't deposit into any banks, and can't make any large purchases with
This. Lets say you watch to dodge your crypto taxes this way; Someone tell me why converting it into physical fiat or bullion is better than just putting it in a cold wallet? Without a method to launder your untaxed gains all you have done is rendered the money exponentially less transportable. At least if it's in crypto I can take my tax-free gains with me anywhere in the world like a swiss bank account.

>> No.6860475

>>6860337
Who's fault is it? No one asked you burgers to ruin both world wars.
Also reminder that USA already is 38% non-white kek. You'll beat Germany to the punch, I'm sure of it.

>> No.6860632

>>6857035
>>have a bunch of untaxed cash you can't use, can't deposit into any banks, and can't make any large purchases with
so dont make any large purchases that would draw attention to yourself
make any large purchases using regular income where the source can be traced, and buy groceries, gas, clothes, etc with your gains cash

>> No.6860695

>>6860632
>make any large purchases using regular income where the source can be traced, and buy groceries, gas, clothes, etc with your gains cash
Why bother with gold then? You can use ATM for that.

>> No.6860743

>>6860632
You can do all that with crypto. Why cash it out in the first place?

>> No.6860792

>>6860632
>Implying our gains are in groceries, gas, and clothes territory instead of lambo and houses territory.

>> No.6860906

>>6860743
the jews that run the gov say that purchasing with crypto necessitates a realized gain or loss if the USD price at transaction is greater or less than it was at purchase of the coin. taxable even
>>6860792
i didn't imply that, but you can't buy a car in cash when the gov knows how much you can't afford it. you can push your spending to make if look like you're living lush and just getting by without going broke on paper, then buy all the little necessities with cash and no paper trail so they can't add up that you're really spending 100k a year instead of the 40k a year that it seems looking at your official transaction records

>> No.6860942

>>6857204
>currency
Not according to Uncle Sam no matter how unfair you believe it to be.
Fucking millennial.

>> No.6861004

>lose more money in the conversion than you would pay on taxes
woooooooowwwww

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6861014

>>6860942
>burgers not welcome itt
>Uncle Sam
REEEEEEEEEE
>>6861004
It's 2% you dumb nigger.

>> No.6861032

>>6861014
enjoy your fake gold

>> No.6861076

>>6861032
>Sharps Pixley
>fake gold
Unironically kill yourself, waste of oxygen.

>> No.6861213

>>6857035
>>have a bunch of untaxed cash you can't use, can't deposit into any banks, and can't make any large purchases with

Thats why I'm going to spend everything on coke and hookers (preferbly tranny hookers)

>> No.6861457

>>6857843
All it will take is one audit by the IRS.

"So anon, where did the money for these cars come from? We don't have any 1099s or W2s showing income to cover these purchases."

"Uh..."

(Snaps on latex glove.) "Bend over, anon, this is might hurt...a lot."

Spoiler - banks have to report large amounts of money being deposited into accounts. Over 10k per transaction is automatic, but they look for other patterns as well.

The IRS hires people way smarter than you, have fun getting audited. Maybe if you bring your own lube, they'll use it.

>> No.6861539

>>6861014
Look up your local tax laws. Crypto isn't treated like a currency despite what your autism thinks.

>> No.6861543

>>6858451
The title doesn't mean fuckall. The issue is large amounts of money going into a bank account with no records of wage earning. When the IRS invites you to their office for an audit, and you can't prove where the money in your account came from, you're going to learn what 'fucked" really means. They can escalate that easily into criminal tax evasion charges, and send you to prison.

But you NEETS keep larping, it's adorable watching you fumble around like fucking idiots trying to invent fool proof money laundering techniques.

>> No.6861581

>>6858720
And when the taxman asks where that 50k came from?

Do you really think you know more than the tax man?

That's fucking hilarious.

>> No.6861605

>>6857174

Yes. It is also tax evasion. This thread is “how to fail an IRS audit and go directly to federal prison.”

>> No.6861639

>>6861539
Crypto doesn't exist in my local laws and will not until at least 2019.
>>6861581
You realize that someone would have to report me, you fucking moron? And even then, I would say I bought gold with my bitcoin. They can't do shit.

>> No.6861666

>>6861605
>“how to fail an IRS audit and go directly to federal prison.”
Fuck off burger, no one itt is discussing your cucked country.

>> No.6861794

>>6861639
You do understand gold dealers have reporting requirements, right? If you buy more than 10k, and if you sell them more than 1 kilo in bars, and more thn 25 1 oz. coins. That's the US, other countries have different law, but they all follow similar guidelines. Why? To combat money laundering, or exactly what you're promoting.

They figured this shit out years ago, dummy, by smarter people than you'll ever be.

Have fun in prison. Promise to write!

>> No.6861819

>>6861639
Name the country, angry little man, so we can go find out what the actual laws are there.

Until you name the country you're proposing to try money laundering in, it's all fucking talk.

C'mon, big boy. You talked the talk, now walk the walk. Name the country.

>> No.6861842

anyone know of a metal joint that accepts crypto in Aus?

>> No.6861907
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6861907

This is why privacy coins will be YUGE. You know, Monero, Verge, Xspec ect. What are they going to do when they can't trace the paper trail?

>> No.6861970

>>6861907
>you bought X coins for n dollars
>where are these coins now
>implying "i lost muh private key" will be an acceptable answer

>> No.6862035

>>6856970
Jmbullion is where I get mine , I don’t trust the scammier looking sites , but jm is solid.

>> No.6862038

>>6856910
Just mine and sell it

>> No.6862051

>>6861907
How are you going to cash out your Monero? How wouldn't the taxman see the large amount of cash you now have and are spending?

>> No.6862078
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6862078

As has been pointed out, it's not rocket science to avoid getting raped by the IRS.

If you try to cash out like $40,000 directly from Coinbase you're going to be raped in taxes and are pretty much automatically getting an audit when tax season comes around. The only viable path is to trade your bitcoin directly for gold, and then sell little chunks of gold (which doesn't have extreme volatility like Bitcoin and pretty much is only going up from here) for cash and use that cash to subsidize your lifestyle while paying your rent and other conspicuous expenses with your normal, traceable wages.

While this is a viable strategy and I commend denying the ZOG government money, it's probably a lot more convenient to bite the bullet and pay the taxes.

>> No.6862085

>>6862051
>cash
>traceable
u wot m8

>> No.6862098

What are peoples thoughts on buying things with credit cards and using different services to pay back those debts with crypto. Can you avoid taxes?

>> No.6862102

>>6861581
>And when the taxman asks where that 50k came from?

Unless hes buying expensive lavish huge shit they aren't going to know. Cash is basically not traceable

>> No.6862109

>>6861794
Report to who? It's a British company. Who are they gonna report it to? This isn't USA, faggot.
>>6861819
The Slovak minister of finance literally made a statement this month that they have plans to introduce crypto taxes next year, and it's not absolutely certain the incompetent morons will succeed in the slightest.

>> No.6862110

>>6862085
Alright, explain how you secretly get the cash?

>> No.6862127

>>6861794
> If you buy more than 10k

Im not advocating for money laundering but this is pretty easy to skirt just by visiting multiple locations over an extended period of time

>> No.6862153

>>6862127
This. No one is advocating buying 1€ million worth of gold.

>> No.6862174

>>6858287
>he doesnt curbside sell cars.

Its pretty easy if u sell to niggers.

>> No.6862182

>>6861970
I uhh spent it all? So whats going to happen when a person buys a bunch of privacy coin ACTAULLY SPENDS on legitimate things. Jail someone for using their money? if they can't prove you hid it how do you have a case?

>> No.6862184

>>6862110
Who's going to ask?

>> No.6862196

>>6862078
If you buy more than 10k in gold, the gold dealer is required to report it. I'm sure they have other patterns as well. Your scheme might work for a couple of thousand, but the risk isn't worth it for that little.

I love this thread. You NEETs and spergs actually think you can invent a new way to launder money. It's hilarious! Governments across the globe have been spending endless amounts of money to track and catch tax cheats, especially as part of the War On Terror, but you little snowflakes think you're smarter.

It's the best free entertainment anywhere.

>> No.6862199

kek

>have w2 proof of legitimate earnings
>have paper proof of transaction history
>have paper proof of trade history

im fucking set you jobless cucks. gonna cashout 100k and report it because id rather be a little bluepill than spend a few years in fed prison

>> No.6862217

>>6862102
If he's dumb enough to carry 50k around in cash in any country, he deserves the robbery that's going to occur. >>6862109
>>6862109

>> No.6862226

>>6862184
The authorities

>> No.6862237

>>6862110
find someone to buy it from you in cash.
getting the cash and the government tracing the cash are two different issues entirely. don't start buying cars and obvious shit you can't afford and they can't tell if you have extra cash

>> No.6862248

>>6862217
>If he's dumb enough to carry 50k around in cash in any country, he deserves the robbery that's going to occur.

I think its funny that you think most tax evaders carry 50 thousand dollars in their pocket

>> No.6862264

>>6862182
because buying shit with crypto is a taxable event legally equivalent to cashing out and using the proceeds to buy in fiat
are you fucking new to the game or just pretending to be ignorant?

>> No.6862309

>>6862264
What part of:

>Burgers not welcome itt

Do you not understand?

>> No.6862331

>>6860475
Churchill wasnt a burger.

>> No.6862335

>>6862217
>thinking non-stop about robbery
>the absolute state of blacked burgers
>>6862226
What authorities? I'll go to bank, give them my ID, deposit 50k to a bank account I'm buying the property from or I pay the person in cash. It's up to that person to account for the money. Literal brainlets itt.
>>6862264
>because buying shit with crypto is a taxable
Cute, the burger still thinks his cuck tax laws are relevant itt.

>> No.6862343

I'm laughing at the idea of /biz/lets trying to dodge taxes when much, much more powerful and richer men have tried and ended up in prison. Even if you did somehow pull it off, you'd always have that niggling doubt in the back of your mind that made you jump every time a knock sounded on your door.

>> No.6862360

>>6861457
only on cash over 10k

>> No.6862388

>>6862331
Churchill would get fucked without Uncle Sam.

>> No.6862408

>>6862109
They report it to the government of the country you're in, stupid.

And we're not talking about crypto taxes, we're talking about your money laundering scheme to avoid paying them.

But I knew you were talking out of your ass. I just wanted you to prove it.

And, your tax avoidance scheme is even worse there, as Slovkia follows the EU's rule - the EU, who now consider gold as "cash".

And "cash" has to have taxes paid on it- especially if you leave your country of origin to buy it:

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1513693971.php

"Currently individuals are required to declare cross-border cash sums of €10,000 or more, under the First Cash Control Regulation (CCR) from 2005. A new decision will repeal the CCR and allow authorities to seize cash below the €10,000 threshold should criminal activity be suspected.

According to the European Parliament news website, MEPs have agreed to:

– widen the definition of ”cash” to include gold, precious stones and metals, as well as anonymous prepaid electronic cash cards,
– enable the authorities to impound cash below the €10,000 threshold temporarily, if criminal activity is suspected, and
– make it mandatory to disclose “unaccompanied” cash sent by cargo.
The justification for these changes? They say the current legislation is ‘riddled’ with loopholes. These loopholes apparently make it very easy for money to be laundered across borders, especially as criminals regularly move amounts below the €10,000 limit."

Would you like to continue making a fool out of yourself?

>> No.6862411

>>6862388
The soviets are what caused you to lose, have you not ever opened a book hans?

>> No.6862437

>>6862248
Only a spastic like you would even think of that, or pull out of your ass that I was implying that.

>> No.6862471

>>6862408
>money laundering scheme to avoid paying them
How exactly is using BTC as a currency, it's intended purpose, defined as money laundering scheme, fucking retard?
>>6862411
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease
Apparently you haven't.

>> No.6862532

>>6861543
>depositing your fun money in a jew house
Just keep it in cash

>> No.6862625

>>6862532
Just buy property and keep some gold. You don't ever need the value of your crypto to touch the hands of bank jew.

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>>6862196
>>6861819
>>6861794
>>6861581
>>6861543
>>6861457

They're afraid.

>> No.6862721

Just to give you retarded burgers a glimpse, our Minister of the Interior paid for 7 apartments 12€ million in cash no fucks given.

>> No.6862932

>>6862625
In fact, why not just buy fishscale off dream market?
You would be surprised how much yeyo you can sell in a single night. You get to cash out and triple your money at the same time

Only do this if you got no criminal record though

>> No.6863056

>>6862932
Fuck off mate, why would I do anything illegal once I've made already it?

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>>6856910

Tax evaders in here are utterly retarded. You cannot turn any respectable amount of crypto into fiat in the first world and expect to use it without being tracked and eventually brought under the heel of the law.

The best you can do is cash out a few hundred here and there at bitcoin atm's or by getting little pre paid cards. Never any type of respectable amount. You might be able to offset living in moms basement and afford extra tendies every month but that's it. The minute you try to make a large purchase questions are going to start getting asked.

You can't just save up your fiat taken slowly and do anything grandiose with it. It simply won't work. Your only hope of avoiding taxes is to move to a literal shit hole and eek out an existence there.

The funniest part about it is how absolutely selfish you guys are. You made something from nothing, none of you worked hard or slaved away. All the gains in crypto come from losers who get handed bags at some point. You refuse to accept that it is the state that provides the means for you to even conduct your business. Without them you would not have power or internet to do these things yet you think you owe them nothing.

It's why when you do fuck up and get caught it's all the sweeter that you go to such lengths.

>> No.6863093

>>6863056
*once I've already made it
4am, can't into English anymore. Time to go. Don't fall for the burger kikery itt, fellow /biz/nessmen.

>> No.6863111

>>6863062
t. communist kike
Didn't even read, the free helicopter rides will be served cold.

>> No.6863165

>>6863056
>once I've made it
Because you can either "make it" 3x sooner, or 3x bigger

>> No.6863210

>>6863111

muh anarcho communism, muh shouldn't have to pay taxes cause infrastructure grows on trees and comes from the goodness of peoples hearts. Muh helicopter rides when you faggots couldn't even crack crude into petrol in your fantasy tax-less society.

Grow the fuck up.

>> No.6863239

What's the point of converting btc -> gold -> cash when you can just get cash from localbitcoin or whatever? The problem is that you cannot wire transfer your btc into your bank then put it in stocks or whatever.

Even if you convert your btc for gold then cash, the government might find it suspicious if you're rolling in money.

As far as I've seen, there's no way not to pay taxes without simply holding your money in cash under your mattress.

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>>6863062
>You refuse to accept that the state provides the means for you to speculate on decentralized government-circumventing currencies with your computer on your privately owned personally purchased computer developed by private research groups and corporations etc etc

You left-wing leaning parasite, you really expect us to sit here and listen to your drivel?
Take your Barry O'Bama "you didn't built that" bullshit and get the hell out of here. This isn't real work, causes no real infrastructure wear, and asking for taxes for it is just Gibs

>> No.6863352

>>6862035
Seconded for JM. Bought a few ounces just to test and things went smoothly.

>> No.6863385

What about moving to a low tax or tax free country for 6 months to gain tax residence and then cashing out there in a local bank account?

>> No.6863398

>>6863385
lol and where can you do that?

>> No.6863408

Selling real gold you get jewed worse than the exchanges.

>> No.6863472

>>6863398
Slovenia is tax free.

>> No.6863484

>>6863348

It's amazing how you guys are the biggest kikes of all. Power takes mass infrastructure. The pursuit of crypto speculation comsumes vast quantities of power globally. The internet you use to speculate on it took massive amounts of infrastructure to be built with government grants and assistance. You would not be on your "private computer" without it being enabled to do so by the commerce and protections the state affords.

Pay your fair share is not leftist, it's not commie. I wan't every one of you tax evading crypto kikes to be turned into lamp shades after you get your teeth pulled and gassed for trying to do nothing but extract wealth out of society with no regard to contributing to it.

>> No.6863501

You only get taxed on your gains when you cash out right?

>> No.6863516

>>6862625
Scuse me sir, we're from the government. Where'd you get the money to purchase this here property?

>> No.6863535

>>6863472
And how hard/long does it take to become a citizen? You need to be a citizen and live there for +200 days or so to use that tax free.

>> No.6863619

>>6863062
sauce?

>> No.6863650

>>6858235
I've bought and sold cars without ever putting them in my name. You can save taxes and reg fees this way. Especially if you just want to flip it.

>> No.6863669

>>6863210
>he thinks infrastructure is magic and cannot be provided by a free market through profit incentives like every other good and service

>> No.6863698

>>6863484
Fuck off, communist leech. I don't owe you shit, parasite.

Day of the helicopter when?

>> No.6863846

>>6858936
Butthurt trumpfag

>> No.6863849

>>6863484
The power infrastructure has been there loooong before, and I've been quite happy paying my power bills plenty of fucking tax already. Tax on purchasing a house, tax for living in a house, tax when I sell the house, tax on buying my car, tax on fuelling my car, tax on the emissions of my car, road tax just to drive to work, tax when I earn money, tax when I spend money, and then finally out of all of it, tax when I invest the money. Fuck you Schlomo, brainlet government nocoiners aren't getting my bitcoin money for Tyrone's gibs.
The power bill has been paid in full and you will be sent to work in the bitcoin mines because of your thieving ways

>> No.6863902

>>6863698

Fuck off crypto kikes. Your coins have no value without fiat. It's only a means to obfuscate fiat and take fiat from others.

Fiat has it's intrinsic value only through the collective labor of the state. The means to secure commerce and wealth are only guaranteed through this.

You are the parasites wishing only to speculate and extract wealth while paying nothing towards contributing to the systems that gave fiat value in the first place.

Fuck off and go build a society that functions on crypto alone and see how far you get with no fiat and nothing that was secured by the collective labor of the state.

>> No.6863925

>>6863849

Fuck off crypto kikes. Your coins have no value without fiat. It's only a means to obfuscate fiat and take fiat from others.

Fiat has it's intrinsic value only through the collective labor of the state. The means to secure commerce and wealth are only guaranteed through this.

You are the parasites wishing only to speculate and extract wealth while paying nothing towards contributing to the systems that gave fiat value in the first place.

Fuck off and go build a society that functions on crypto alone and see how far you get with no fiat and nothing that was secured by the collective labor of the state.

>> No.6864058

>>6863669

>He thinks speculating on fiat through the creation of a myriad of ponzi schemes should come with no tax obligation to the systems that gave fiat value in the first place

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>>6863902
>>6863925

>copy pasted with his hook nose

kill yourself

>> No.6864195

>>6864147

Nope, I found a new home. Every time I see a crypto kike tax evasion thread i'm going to start dispensing Zyklon B to choke you out like the filthy rats you are.

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6864301

It's time to do a round up of all parasites who think they should get to manipulate fiat currencies and pay nothing for the privilege. Only Jews have the same end goal in mind. Destruction for profit at all cost.

>> No.6864406

>>6864301
This guy's kind of a fuckin bitch huh

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>>6864406

Nowhere near the level of the parasites who think they should get to manipulate fiat currencies with zero liabilities.

>> No.6864503

>>6856910
I have basic tax knowledge but how does this prevent taxation?

Hypo:
you bought bitcoin for 10 dollars. Bitcoin basis is 10 dollars. Bitcoin value goes up to 20
you buy gold with 20 dollar value bitcoin. since it's not a recognized event, the basis carries over so basis in gold is 10 value is 20.
you cash out gold worth 20 for 20 dollars but basis is 10. so 10-20= 10 dollars in taxable income

what am I missing

>> No.6864516

>>6857035
>He doesn't know how to launder

>> No.6864607

>>6856910
>be me
>take $1100 worth of scrap gold to pawn shop
>"we'll give you $500 for it"
>fuck no
>list it on ebay for $1 starting bid
>sells for $1300
>mfw

>> No.6864805

What about this,
>have regular wage cuck job
>report literally 1000s of transactions
>slide some capital losses in the mix coming from small chink exchanges or decentralized exchanges
>pay a respectable amount but not the ass rape that the IRS requires
Even if audited, how could the IRS claim you owe more if your books add up? How would they confirm or deny your claims that these trades took place when the exchanges dont answer subpoenas? Full on tax evasion is retarded but there has to be a middle ground.

>> No.6864833

>>6864805
>exchanges dont answer subpoenas
lol what exchange is not answering requests from the IRS?

>> No.6864875

>>6864833
>>6864805
second of all you guys are pussy little fucks with no money. you need a taxation lawyer to know how to play the game and you can't afford that
The IRS will make you and anyone average to bend the knee and pay up. you guys have no viable game plan

>> No.6864894

>>6864516
tell me how to launder because detecting it is literally my job

>> No.6865018

>>6864833
plenty that dont require to know your customer. You dont need a taxation lawyer to know how to do math faggot. Laundering millions and shaving a couple thousand off while still paying taxes arent the same thing

>> No.6865030

>>6864894
>tell me how to be a better goydog.

>> No.6865100

>>6865018
so basically not in western countries? okay. so you send money from that random ass bank that's way above what's expected of your income and background to your American bank. your flagged then

now what faggot? and yes you need a taxation lawyer to play with the laws to reduce taxation. the OP post was straight retarded

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>>6864894
piss off fagget

these are my coins

>> No.6865295

>>6865100
I have a real job I'm not pulling 5k out of thin air and depositing it into a bank account that had 0$ ever deposited. Yea a tax lawyer would be great but I don't see how they could possibly have the man power to find anything suspicious enough to even warrant an audit. Once audited, how could they disprove that I didn't make the transactions stated in my books? Would it fall on me to somehow get Huobi to pull the records from my IP address that changes since I don't use one computer? For real, I'm asking.

>> No.6865453 [DELETED] 

>>6865295
for dodging banks asking questions, it depends how much you're bringing in in relation to your income and the method i.e. wire from a weird ass bank. I would consider using some sort of prepaid card. A 5k cash deposit would result in some sort of call from the bank asking "whats this for?" but maybe not


5k is still enough to be possibly flagged where they would take a look but they could overlook it depending on the source and your background and all those other factors.

I don't know enough about auditing procedures to say whether what you say will be sufficient. but I know for the fact if the IRS is looking to break legs they will probably break your leg and your further penalized for lying. something like 5k will likely fly under the radar but if you're bringing in 10k+ plus, easily 25k+, you would have to be pretty clever because they will probe and not take shit at face value

>> No.6865511 [DELETED] 

>>6865453
oh and if you respond to the bank and give an answer they don't find reasonable, or not even respond, you get a file reported to the government and it would be the governments decision to go further into investigation.

The fed government has been pursuing investigation more and more each year so yea.

>> No.6865539

>>6856910
Burger here, don’t care if I’m not welcomed because invading is what we do best. Plan on selling some crypto gains over time until my portfolio is 7-10% meme metals.

>> No.6865636 [DELETED] 

>>6865453
*prepaid card and sending the money in small intervals, because large amounts of money from a prepaid is a red flag

>> No.6865653

>>6864488
>bB2Hh28E
I seriously hope you are against the Federal reserve then. Please tell me you are at least that consistent in your views.

>> No.6865716

>>6865653

Nothing federal about the federal reserve. Just a cartel of manipulators. Gas would be too good for those people. They deserve Scaphism, also known as the boats.

>> No.6866026

>>6865716
Then I hope you understand why people at least want to avoid taxes. I get where you are coming from, the system is corrupt. Yes life would be better if everyone paid their taxes and the Fed wasn't corrupt as shit. Yes if those tax dollars were accountable and went to services that we needed instead of things like a BAILOUT for banks, but that isn't the case, our tax dollars go to shit, while those in the top launder money to their swiss accounts all day. Your shitting on people just for trying to not get shit on by the government.

>> No.6866337

>>6863062

Damn the IRS is hiring way more intense and invested shills lately. How much they paying you an hour brah? I hope its more than $15...

I especially love this part with the FOG (Fear, Obligation, Guilt)

>"You refuse to accept that it is the state that provides the means for you to even conduct your business. Without them you would not have power or internet to do these things yet you think you owe them nothing."

8/10 I dig the passion.

Also, kys. CASH OUT SLOWLY OP, SELL ON LOCALBITCOINS FOR CASH, ACCUMULATE, KEEP A STEADY SHIT JOB FOR A W2 TO REPORT, DYOR STOP LISTENING TO THE IRS SHILLS, GANGSTERS, PIMPS HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS.